TFF Governance

What manner of Admin?


  • Total voters
    155
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kevinasher

Well-Known Member
I'm in favor of the following:
Admins: One
Mods: even number, with admin being relevant in tiebreaker situations Medium (move/edit threads, delete posts, ban after mod discussion and voting or emergency response (CP, excessive spam, etc))
Rotation: None. Replaced as needed.

I do think the need for a board where members have access to view (but not post) the mod discussion on events past and ongoing, is a valid concern.
 

sikle

Well-Known Member
Admins - Two might be best. At the old TFF we had one. His name was Hawk. He disappeared without transferring power or designating a successor after locking out fresh meat- err, newbies. Cue the forum dwindling for years on end until we had maybe a dozen regulars and a boatload of lurkers.

Mods - Multiple and low. We enjoy being a chaotic cabal considered by most as the scum of the earth, but even we have standards. Once signups were closed, we did a decent enough job policing our own. Now that we're in a new place and signups are open, we need to give a few fellas some nice spiffy new suits and some clubs to beat down the fresh idiots, but there's no need to tell them that the mods have any restrictions.

I suppose I'd like to see as little change as possible in the overall structure of how the board functions, but at the same time I'm not naive enough to know that what I want is what will happen.

Edit for clarity:
Rotation: I wouldn't go for rotating moderators, just because it's too easy to lose track of whose turn it is to be a mod today. A handful of names to memorize as go-to guys is overall just simpler.

Forum: Yes. It's easier to be consistent if you can actually view your own history. Have I made this decision in the past, is this case worse than that case.
It can be hidden, or not, it's not too big a deal to me, I just think it would be a useful tool for our mods.
 

Eneps

Active Member
Admins: Two just in case one of them pulls a Hawk.

Mods: Multiple mods, with low power, temp bans and the like.

Rotation: Absolutely none, it would just get annoying after awhile.
 

Jakkun

Well-Known Member
Is it possible to make a janitor class mod and a cop level mod? If so, we should have lots of janitors, and a couple cops. We don't usually have discipline issues, so they can pretty much be off duty cops. We do need janitors, or custodial engineers :p
 

ttestagr

Well-Known Member
That list of mod choices on the other thread is terrifying. PCHeintz needs to be nominated and asked if he wants the job. He's on all the time, generally fair minded, and isn't in any feuds with anyone. He's also generally more mature than those other nominations. If he's willing, he'd probably be the best choice for admin. Shirotsume should be the other, on account of him being the one to set this up.

As far as mods go. Knight of Ni, Fatuous One, SimmyC, Sigfried27, toraneko and myself would be good choices for much the same reasons.
 
ttestagr said:
That list of mod choices on the other thread is terrifying.
How do you figure? Granted, I have no idea who Archfiend is, and I don't know all that much about Ninsaneja...
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
We are not determining any positions at this moment, and that list isn't even actual list of people available for the position. Please read the first post.
 

Ninsaneja

Well-Known Member
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
ttestagr said:
That list of mod choices on the other thread is terrifying.
How do you figure? Granted, I have no idea who Archfiend is, and I don't know all that much about Ninsaneja...
http://armoredcore.wikia.com/wiki/Gerald_Gendlin


But I think the real question is, does LOLRAINE get a vote?
EDIT: Coz I was under the impression that he was a troll account of someone else.
 
Admins: Two in case one of them vanishes like Hawk did.

Mods: More than 2 mods, if there's many more than 2, separate out the permaban powers into 1-2 "super mods". They should be allowed to challenge decisions made by each other in a hidden forum.

Rotation: Only at the behest of the Admin, but the roster should stay stable.
 
Ninsaneja said:
http://armoredcore.wikia.com/wiki/Gerald_Gendlin
I know who Leonheart's successor as Noblesse Oblige pilot is, obviously. I've played AC4/AC4A.

"One hundred million...!"
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
OK, this is going to be how I'll be recording this. Each vote will have name, a link to the post, and then the vote for admin, number of admins, number of mods, powers of mods, rotation, and then mod forum. Finally, My certainty on it, and any notes.

Now, the certainty number is important- Some posts are pretty black and white. Some aren't, and I ahve to try and interpret them (Like if someone says "Medium" mod power, but in their reasoning mentions the mods need something given to "High" power.

I don't want any of the interpretations to be fucked up- so CHECK YOUR DAMN ENTRY. I want this done as transparently done as possible- please clarify anything I've marked.

<table border=1px frame=void cellpadding=5>

<td>Name</td><td>Link</td><td>Admins</td><td>Mods</td><td>Power</td><td>Rotation</td><td>Forum</td><td>Certainty/Notes</tr>
<td>Shirotsume</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150267#pid1150267">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</tr>
<td>rukia8492</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150268#pid1150268">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>?</td><td>Yes</td><td>?</td><td>Missing votes</tr>
<td>Ero-Sennin</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150270#pid1150270">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>Yes (?)</td><td>Yes</td><td>Was an agreement with Shirotsume, who changed vote.</tr>
<td>Watawashiwa</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150274#pid1150274">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>Yes (?)</td><td>Yes</td><td>Was an agreement with Shirotsume, who changed vote.</tr>
<td>Cosgrove</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150277#pid1150277">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</tr>
<td>Vexarian</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150278#pid1150278">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>High</td><td>Yes (?)</td><td>Yes</td><td>Was an agreement with Shirotsume, who changed vote. Changed Mod Power to High later.</tr>
<td>Zephyrus</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150280#pid1150280">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td></tr>
<td>IrksomeProductions</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150284#pid1150284">Link</a></td><td>1 (?)</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Levels</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Admin interpreted as 1- myBB has no system where an admin quorum is needed for anything- they're admins.</tr>
<td>PCHeintz</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150285#pid1150285">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>High</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100.00%</tr>
<td>Foreverzero</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150286#pid1150286">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>Yes (?)</td><td>Yes</td><td>Was an agreement with Shirotsume, who changed vote.</tr>
<td>NGD OMEGA</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150288#pid1150288">Link</a></td><td>1+B</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100%</tr>
<td>randombugger</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150298#pid1150298">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100.00%</tr>
<td>theunderbolt</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150303#pid1150303">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>no</td><td>?</td><td>Missing votes</tr>
<td>ArchfiendRai</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150304#pid1150304">Link</a></td><td>1+B (?)</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low (?)</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Unsure how to determine Admin, mod power vote. Missing votes.</tr>
<td>chronodekar</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150318#pid1150318">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low (high?)</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Changed mod power vote to high, but described that he didn't want the actions high did...?</tr>
<td>Knight504</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150345#pid1150345">Link</a></td><td>1+B (?)</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Unsure if you're voting for 2 or 1+B. Missing vote.</tr>
<td>WizardOne</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150347#pid1150347">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing votes.</tr>
<td>MeinosKaen</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150354#pid1150354">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100.00%</tr>
<td>rdde</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150369#pid1150369">Link</a></td><td>2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100%</tr>
<td>WarmasterCain</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150383#pid1150383">Link</a></td><td>2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Medium</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100%. Changed vote from 1 admin to 2, mod power from medium to high.</tr>
<td>Schema</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150391#pid1150391">Link</a></td><td>1+B (?)</td><td>Few</td><td>Low</td><td>Rep Poll</td><td>Yes</td><td>Interpreting Admin vote as 1+B</tr>
<td>Cherry_love</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150394#pid1150394">Link</a></td><td>2 (?)</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Unsure if vote was for 2 or 1+B. Sounded more like 2.</tr>
<td>Threadweaver</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150401#pid1150401">Link</a></td><td>1+B (?)</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote. Unsure if voting for 2 or 1+B. Sounded like 1+B.</tr>
<td>GenocideHeart</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150422#pid1150422">Link</a></td><td>1+B</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100%</tr>
<td>Cornathum</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150434#pid1150434">Link</a></td><td>Multple</td><td>Multiple</td><td>High</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>GiantMonkeyMan</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150441#pid1150441">Link</a></td><td>One</td><td>Few</td><td>Low</td><td>No (?)</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote. Sounds like you don't want a rotation?</tr>
<td>Python453</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150443#pid1150443">Link</a></td><td>Multple</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Medium</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100.00%</tr>
<td>hardcoreheathen</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150452#pid1150452">Link</a></td><td>1+B</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Levels</td><td>?</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote. Changed Admin vote from 1 to 1+B</tr>
<td>Nukem</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150453#pid1150453">Link</a></td><td>1+B</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Medium</td><td>Abstain</td><td>Yes</td><td>100.00%</tr>
<td>Scope</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150482#pid1150482">Link</a></td><td>2 or 3</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Medium</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>Garahs</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150484#pid1150484">Link</a></td><td>3</td><td>Multple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>herdo</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150486#pid1150486">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>RoboJesus</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150489#pid1150489">Link</a></td><td>2 or 3</td><td>Multiple</td><td>???</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Please read the first post on what low, medium, and high means. Missing votes.</tr>
<td>Gafgar</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150493#pid1150493">Link</a></td><td>Multiple</td><td>None</td><td>None</td><td>None</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>sinewyk</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150499#pid1150499">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>Wheeljack</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150513#pid1150513">Link</a></td><td>1+2B</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>?</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>SotF</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150516#pid1150516">Link</a></td><td>Multiple</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>yes</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>Get-lost</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150528#pid1150528">Link</a></td><td>2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Agreement with ArcfiendRai. Missing votes.</tr>
<td>Sdebeli</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150541#pid1150541">Link</a></td><td>1+B</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>Jakkun</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150606#pid1150606">Link</a></td><td>1+B (?)</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>1--%</tr>
<td>esran</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150617#pid1150617">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>High</td><td>?</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>Christopher Robin</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150651#pid1150651">Link</a></td><td>Multiple</td><td>Multiple</td><td>High</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Agreement with Cornathum. Missing votes.</tr>
<td>Coelcanth</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150653#pid1150653">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>100.00%</tr>
<td>Avider</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150658#pid1150658">Link</a></td><td>1+B (?)</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing votes.</tr>
<td>toraneko</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150667#pid1150667">Link</a></td><td>3</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low (?)</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Interpreted mod powers as low- closest thing to what you suggested. Later confirmed.</tr>
<td>muramasa</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150668#pid1150668">Link</a></td><td>1+B</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Medium</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>Ninsaneja</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150721#pid1150721">Link</a></td><td>ABSTAIN</td><td>Multiple</td><td>High</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100%</tr>
<td>Andrew Joshua Talon</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150751#pid1150751">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>Yes</td><td>Yes</td><td>Agreement with Shirotsume, except wants rotation. 100%</tr>
<td>T.L</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150753#pid1150753">Link</a></td><td>1 (?)</td><td>Multiple</td><td>High</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Unsure if vote was for 1 or 1+B.</tr>
<td>NuitTombee</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150791#pid1150791">Link</a></td><td>1 or 2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Medium</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100%</tr>
<td>Xon</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150809#pid1150809">Link</a></td><td>2 or 3</td><td>??</td><td>High</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing votes.</tr>
<td>Ashaman</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150845#pid1150845">Link</a></td><td>1+B</td><td>Multiple</td><td>High (?)</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing votes. Voted high, explained wanted low?</tr>
<td>Raye_Terse</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150892#pid1150892">Link</a></td><td>1+B</td><td>Multiple</td><td>High (?)</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote. Voted high, explained wanted low?</tr>
<td>LOLRAINE</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150905#pid1150905">Link</a></td><td>2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>high</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<td>kevinasher</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150914#pid1150914">Link</a></td><td>1</td><td>??</td><td>Medium</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>Missing vote- even is not applicable.</tr>
<td>sikle</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150915#pid1150915">Link</a></td><td>2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100%</tr>
<td>MrEmporer</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1150997#pid1150997">Link</a></td><td>2 (?)</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Various</td><td>No</td><td>yes, hidden.</td><td>Not sure if you're voting for 2 or 1+B.</tr>
<tr><td>half baked cat</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1151034#pid1151034">Link</a></td><td>2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>ABSTAIN</td><td>Abstain</td><td>Yes</td><td>100%</tr>
<tr><td>wertygo</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1151040#pid1151040">Link</a></td><td>2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>Yes</td><td>100%</tr>
<tr><td>Ghostface</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1151056#pid1151056">Link</a></td><td>2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
<tr><td>ttestarg</td><td><a href="http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19436&pid=1151058#pid1151058">Link</a></td><td>2</td><td>Multiple</td><td>Low</td><td>No</td><td>?</td><td>Missing vote.</tr>
</table>

EDIT: And while we're at it, how do we want to deal with those that are vague? Best guess? Not count it? This ends in three hours. The ones that are missing a vote for the mod forum (most of them)... do we count those as abstains?

etc.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
Avider said:
the ability to moderate with need for a report.
Typo, I meant without.
I actually read it that way- the point still stands that EVERY level of mod can moderate without need for a report in an emergency.

And as for the rest of your ballot? You need to vote for a number of mods and the mod forum.

EDIT: Again, look at the front page. Blatantly says
Low: Mods have the power to move/rename threads and edit posts. They may issue warnings and, in some cases, they may also give temporary bans of a short time, and are required to wait for someone to report the post/issue in question before being able to use their mod powers, except in specific cases to be determined (like CP.)
 

sikle

Well-Known Member
I've updated my post and clearly marked what was edited.
 

Avider

Well-Known Member
I actually read it that way- the point still stands that EVERY level of mod can moderate without need for a report in an emergency.
No, I saw that. I'm thinking that an enumeration of specific cases might not cover all specific cases. However, if the whole, "required to wait for a report" is only by convention and not actually mechanically enforced, if a Low Mod is essentially just a High Mod except that the expectation for them is to wait for a report to act in cases not seen as emergencies, then I'm fine with a Low Mod. There's no difference in actual power (perhaps excepting the time period of the ban), so it doesn't really matter.

Perhaps, excepting, can a Low Mod delete posts as well? If not, then I remain with, at the minimum, a Medium Mod.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
Avider said:
I actually read it that way- the point still stands that EVERY level of mod can moderate without need for a report in an emergency.
No, I saw that. I'm thinking that an enumeration of specific cases might not cover all specific cases. However, if the whole, "required to wait for a report" is only by convention and not actually mechanically enforced, if a Low Mod is essentially just a High Mod except that the expectation for them is to wait for a report to act in cases not seen as emergencies, then I'm fine with a Low Mod. There's no difference in actual power (perhaps excepting the time period of the ban), so it doesn't really matter.

Perhaps, excepting, can a Low Mod delete posts as well? If not, then I remain with, at the minimum, a Medium Mod.
They cannot delete posts, but they can edit it clean. The distinction is that deleting simply removes it invisibly, whereas the edit ensures that there is a blatant record of moderation. In that case of massive spam, an admin can come and clean it up in about 4 seconds to make sure things aren't littered with empty posts.

EDIT: it does GH.
 
Admins: 2 Mods: Multiple Power: Abstain from voting Rotation: Abstained Forum: Yes

The whole Hawk situation mentioned multiple times is why I voted for two. Otherwise, I would not be such a new person here.

Multiple Mods just makes sense to me.

I abstained my vote for the power level of mods because I do not know what sort of influence the different levels of power would have on the people.

I abstained from the rotation vote because I see valid reasons for both. I would vote for an impeachment process and, possibly, for the mods to be an elected position without the whole term limit thing, but I will still have my official vote as abstain.

For the assigning one or more mods to a specific subforum of their interest, I think that sounds like an effective idea in such a large community.

Edit: For the vague votes, I think the parts that are certain should be counted, but the more vague areas not to be.
 

Avider

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It seems then that a Low Mod essentially do not require reports to act, and have the tools available to act, in which case I'm fine with a Low Mod. My vote has been changed to reflect that.
 

wertygo

Well-Known Member
Admin: Two. It's entirely possible that one admin goes AWOL. It's highly unlikely that two would go AWOL at the same time. Having two means when one goes missing the other can transfer administrative rights to a newly elected replacement.

Mods: Several, low. Mods should NOT be able to delete posts. Editing a post to remove all content is functionally equivalent to deletion, but has far less potential for abuse. Likewise, mods should be able to lock and rename threads, but not delete them. Temp bans are acceptable; permabans should require administrative action.

Rotation: No. Have an impeachment and subsequent election process instead.

Forum: Yes, if it's public. Members should be privy to the decision process behind any action taken against them.
 

rdde

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Mine was, and still is, for two admins. I haven't seen a forum engine that has the concept of a backup admin. Better to go in with both eyes open and know that your "backup" is actually as unrestricted as a regular admin.

But I do want them to function like a president and a vice-president, not two active admins. If that is your definition of "1+backup", then please treat my vote as so.

You really should put up the definitions of what we're voting on in the first post, as it is not very clear and it is unreasonable to require us voters to read every post. You don't see that happen on the national voting polls.

Forum: yes
 

Ninsaneja

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Shiro: I want the mod forum, and I don't care how many admins so 1 is fine.
EDIT: Rather, I'd prefer if you took it as abstaining from admin vote and "yes" on mod forum.

Edit2: Gafgar, the point would be that I, if you didn't realize, am a bit of an AC4/4a fan.
Edit3: As a side note, I find it a bit odd that a few people have corrected my sig for using the wrong "Links" instead of "Lynx," but no one has commented on the fact that my sig and member title are both about Oldking, yet my avatar is Noblesse Oblige. Way to ignore the thing right in front of your face.
 
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