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blabla1994

Well-Known Member
You've given me much to think about. Although the only Graphics Cards I could find on decent computers within my price range were Intel ones. How do they stack up?
 

Raye_Terse

Well-Known Member
To be completely fair, Intel HD 4000 will run LoL decently enough. If you're going to be playing other games as well, however, I'd go with a dedicated graphics card.


Also, my little list of guidelines works best if you're buying the components separately and assembling the computer yourself. I recognize that many people might not consider this an option, but it really isn't all that complicated. As long as you make sure to double- and triple-check that you're plugging the right thing into the right spot on the motherboard, the only thing you can really mess up is applying thermal paste. And, TBH? The only way that can really mess up your cpu is if you smear the thermal paste on with your finger. Just put a small dot the size of a pinhead as close to the middle of your cpu as possible, then get your cpu fan up there and lower it evenly over it's fastenings on the motherboard. Fasten it up, and you're done with thermal paste. No biggie.

Everything else is mostly just cables. Just put tab A into slot B, and you're golden.
 

blabla1994

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The problem is, generally buying all the parts separate gets more expensive overall then a store-bought cpu And budget is definitely a limiter. I have found something that meets most of my specifications with a few compromises though.

Perhaps the saddest part was have to settle for an AMD processer, one of the better ones as far as I can tell, but if still falls short of all of the upper end Intel ones.

In the end though, it appears it will nicely handle everything I could want it to do. Thanks for your info, it's been no small amount of help. :)

[Edit] http://www.frys.com/product/7650437?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
This is what I settled for, if you see anything that jumps out as "NO don't do that" Let me know please.
 

FinalMax

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You do know that will actually come to around $530-$550 because of shipping, right? Especially if you want it quick and safe.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
Uh, buying everything separately and then building it yourself is always going to be significantly cheaper. Where on earth did you get the notion that buying seperately would be more expensive?!
 

blabla1994

Well-Known Member
Shirotsume said:
Uh, buying everything separately and then building it yourself is always going to be significantly cheaper. Where on earth did you get the notion that buying seperately would be more expensive?!
Something I read on the Economist. And AFAIK they're pretty reliable.

And, yeah, I'm aware shipping is a thing.

[Edit] Here. http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2013/09/operating-systems

THERE is no way that building a personal computer from scratch—rather than buying a ready-made one off the shelf from an online or big-box store—can be justified financially these days. Doing so in the past certainly saved money. Today, not only can a factory-built PC of similar performance be bought for less, but it will also come with a year’s warranty, a licensed copy of the latest version of Microsoft’s Windows operating system, all the necessary software drivers for the components installed, plus a mouse and a keyboard—and sometimes even a display.
Admitedly it's not really referring to a top of the line system, (everything I've read points to it being vastly cheaper to build one of those yourself), but I'm not exactly going for a top of the line system.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
Yeah, that article is full of shit.

Doing so in the past certainly saved money. Today, not only can a factory-built PC of similar performance be bought for less, but it will also come with a year’s warranty, a licensed copy of the latest version of Microsoft’s Windows operating system, all the necessary software drivers for the components installed, plus a mouse and a keyboard—and sometimes even a display.
1. Then he's an idiot.
2. All parts you buy come with one year manufacturer's warranty- or more. My XFX graphics cards came with a 2 year, for example.
3. You can buy a licensed copy of ANY version of windows, not just the latest one, and it doesn't come preloaded with shit.
4. This is fucking 2013, drivers are not a problem anymore unless you're trying to run some niche linux distro on a fucking gas powered lawnmower, and even then some of the major distros have drivers specifically for that.
5. Those mice, keyboards, and monitors are invariably shit that they're trying to dump off to get rid of stock. This is not a plus.

Also, looking at the computer you gave:
CPU: AMD Six-Core FX-6120- About 112$, decent CPU
Motherboard: AMD 970 Chipset, about $70, really bad motherboard (two PCI slots, no crossfire/sli suport, only USB 2.0, four ram slots but dual channel...)
RAM: 2x4GB and 1x2GB. about 80$ Extra 2GB is basically pointless and is only there to proclaim that I HAS MOAR RAM THAN OTHER OFFERINGS.
Hard Drive: 1tb 7200rpm, about 50$.
Generic Optical Drive: about 15$
GFX: Radeon 7450, $80.
Keyboard and Mouse: Probable generic crap they have sitting around and are trying to dump, since they don't even bother specifying. Your choice if that's actually acceptable.
OS: W8 OEM, 90$
Monitor: Nope.

total cost if you bought outright: $497, plus the cost of a PSU, so this is slightly cheaper than building. Buuut...

Well, they made a lot of questionable decisions there. The motherboard is a piece of shit. The RAM is literally just there to attract attention. That's a shitty GFX card, though it would be enough to run LoL but nothing needing actual graphics. The KB/Mouse will be cheapo shit. I hate W8 (Again, personal choice), no monitor, and that PSU is, again, the cheapest shit they can dump to get down stock that will still mostly supply enough power to anything. Seriously, they don't even make mention of it have a PSU at all, and while I'm 99% sure there is actually one in there, that's not a good sign.

I would suggest:
CPU: i3, 110$
Motherboard: ASRock H77M, about $60.
RAM: 2x4GB, about 60$
Hard Drive: 1tb 7200rpm, about 50$.
Generic Optical Drive: about 15$
GFX: Radeon 7770, 60$
Keyboard and Mouse: This is so intensely personal I'm not even going to suggest something here. Would be a dick move to.
OS: grab an OEM W7 or W8. 50-70$, half that if you're in college.
Monitor: you can grab a good 1080p 23" for about 100$.
PSU: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS, 60$.
Case: Antec 302, 40$.

Total here is 505$, plus the monitor and a KB/mouse.

CPU is vastly more powerful, the motherboard isn't a PoS, you get the same performance from the ram, same hard drive, same optical, your GFX card absolutely shits all over the old one, a choice in OS, and an 80+ PSU. Monitor still isn't included, since I figured that was something you didn't mind adding to the price, and again, I have no idea on your tastes in KB/mouse.

So essentially, for a KB/mouse purchase + 6$, you get a vastly better system. Sounds like a better deal to me, and I didn't even use any sales or deals aside from the GFX card sale- which is the entire point of building it yourself, because you can cobble together a shitload of sales/combos. I mean, hell, I threw this together in like half an hour with almost research. You can definitely do better than this for the same exact money.

Another thing to keep in mind is that if you build your own computer, you can upgrade it really easy to be near- top oft he line for years, for very little per year. You can't do that with a prebuilt, because there's no upgrade headroom at all.

Also, keep in mind black friday/cyber monday is coming up in a month or two. You might just want to spend the next bit familiarizing yourself with the value, performance, and use of various PC parts.
 

blabla1994

Well-Known Member
Hmm. Well, thanks for clearing that up for me. Nontheless, building a computer isn't really an option for me, sadly. I'd love to do it, but the situation here makes buying the individual parts infeasible.

Like I said, I'm just going to settle for a weaker graphics card, and upgrade later. My main problem now is finding a computer with a decent power supply.
 

FinalMax

Well-Known Member
If everyone is willing and not necessarily watching more Worlds coverage, maybe we can play a few games Friday night. Say around 10:00 PM CST (GMT -5) sound good?
 

FinalMax

Well-Known Member
God, I'm getting to hate Magic more than I'd thought I would. And I already have a healthy dislike due to it strangling game growth for other competitors.

Anyway, it looks like tonight's a no-go anyhow. Figures I picked the exact time as one of the semi-final matches, thus making it so we'd likely have most watching it.
 

violinmana

(Hardcore) Gamer
Seems like Zeph just left the team. Too bad, we're well on our way to get Gold on the 3s team.
 

blabla1994

Well-Known Member
Wait, what? Since when? Sheesh, your computer falls apart for a month, and look what happens. Your team gains some measure of competence. :O

Maybe not having a guy on the team who had an FPS generarously described as "not" hepled a bit :p
 

Lost Star

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Tried to get gold in 5s here, and stopped halfway through silver. I'm a decent player, but UG it's just painful sometimes to play.

I wanted gold Elise skin too :(
 

Lost Star

Well-Known Member
Heh, well, if you have a spot I wouldn't mind playing with you.
 

Zephyrus

Searching for the six-fingered man.
Oh hey. I just wanted to pop my head in and say that I didn't leave cause I hated Vio's guts or anything. (Well, mostly not.)

I got invited to a 3s team to play some random shit, nothing serious. Since we haven't played anything lately, I didn't think anything of it. Besides, I wouldn't have helped earn your Gold. =p
 

crazyfoxdemon

Well-Known Member
I'm only level 10 right now and I'm pretty sure you have to be 30 before you can join a Ranked team, but when I get there. I'd love to join.
 

violinmana

(Hardcore) Gamer
Don't worry, you're not missing out. We don't actually do... well, anything.
 
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