Nasuverse The Blade of Highland

[toraneko]

Haa, yeah. I'm not too fond of Takahashi's stuff myself.

As for Shiro summoning Saber by accident... well, it was only accident on his part, really. His personality, combined with the fact that he had in his possession (in his very body) an artifact belonging to Arturia, pretty much guaranteed that he was going to end up with Arturia as his Servant.
Possessing an artifact belonging to a particular figure, or otherwise relating to them, gives one a much-increased chance of summoning a specific Noble Soul.

Example: The Einzberns used a stone slab from the temple of Heracles to ensure that they'd get Heracles. They wanted him specifically because his fame is known worldwide, and his legend was as a nigh-invincible warrior of immense power.


edit: I suppose Shirou might accidentally end up summoning Black Saber, if you're dead set on the "evil Servant" idea.


Another thing that can affect a Servant's power is where they happen to be at the time. Having the "home turf advantage" really counts for a lot with Kinoko World's magic system, especially with Noble Souls.
Sasaki Kojiro would've been even more outclassed anywhere other than Japan, whereas Medea, Medusa, and Heracles would've been stronger had the Grail War been set up to take place in Greece instead. Similarly, if the Grail War was held in the U.K., Arturia and Cu Chulainn would have been h4x. (The hero EMIYA wouldn't get a boost anywhere, since his legend hasn't happened yet.)
Dunno about Gilgamesh. Perhaps, since he claims all the world as his own, anywhere he goes is his "home turf".


(I'm not gonna touch on the Luca Blight one. That's just wrong, man. :snigger: )

 

[Escalon]

Wouldn't Gil get his home field advantage in Iraq?

Oh christ...

 

[GenocideHeart]

It's the wrongness that makes him summoning Luca Blight so awesome as an idea.

 

[mswolfe17]

It's the wrongness that makes him summoning Luca Blight so awesome as an idea.?

"wrongness" otherwise referred to as "injustice"

:lol:

I told a fellow weaboo about this at class the other day, and he suggested Naruto as a servant.
:headbanger:

It would be the Colorblind Emo McNinja servant!

^_^

 

[toraneko]

Wouldn't Gil get his home field advantage in Iraq?

Oh christ...

ow ow ow the thought hurts me ow ow ow ow ow

 

[mswolfe17]

Wouldn't Gil get his home field advantage in Iraq?

Oh christ...

ow ow ow the thought hurts me ow ow ow ow ow

I think it'd be interesting to see them try to wage a secret magic war in the middle of a desert. I mean, it's not as if any amount of explosions would seem out of place in some areas over there.

But, would Gil still speak Japanese?

:huh:

 

[Fatuous One]

But, would Gil still speak Japanese?

Considering Bazett went back to Ireland to summon Lancer, yes.

 

[mswolfe17]

But, would Gil still speak Japanese?

Considering Bazett went back to Ireland to summon Lancer, yes.

yeah, and Illya is from somewhere in the Germany/Austria area, right?

I wonder what Japanese spoken with a German accent sounds like... :huh.:

 

[PCHeintz72]

But, would Gil still speak Japanese?

Considering Bazett went back to Ireland to summon Lancer, yes.

yeah, and Illya is from somewhere in the Germany/Austria area, right?

I wonder what Japanese spoken with a German accent sounds like... :huh.:

Would Asuka in the original Japanese Language version of NGE be an example? I am uncertain if they used such an accent or not on her voice. Did in English Dub.

 

[ttestagr]

For about the three seconds it takes until Lancer kills him.

Noble Phantasm: The Immortal's Birthright - Victory Over Death.

Hey, if Berserker can h4x his way out of getting killed, someone who actually was immortal has to have something similar.

Arturia is proof that one doesn't necessarily have to die to become a Servant. Connor just might have wanted something bad enough that he would make a pact with the World.

What might he want bad enough, you may ask?

How about "Revenge against the man who killed many of his friends, including his mentor, raped his wife, and kidnapped his new love, yet who is so incredibly strong that it would take a miracle for Connor to win"?

I missed this reply. The problem with that idea, is that Servants are almost impossible to kill by anything less than decapitation or taking out the heart. Decapitation is the supposedly the killing blow of choice IIRC. That leaves Connor in a very bad place.

 

[toraneko]

No, it actually leaves him in a pretty good place, since this means he has only one kill point, as opposed to the usual two. This automatically renders Lancer's main killing technique useless, for one thing. And let's not forget the disgustingly fast unlimited regeneration rate.

Oh, and true mind-reading, if one takes the ending of the first movie as canon. Which one should, since each movie/series effectively occupies its own continuity separate from the others.

A fight between Connor and Heracles could go on all day with no clear winner, provided Connor doesn't lose his head (in either sense). I'd bet Ilya would have to make Heracles retreat before the maryoku drain killed her.

 

[Moshulel]

Well, if we bring the immortals to the topic I think Connor would hardly be my first choice. Going by the series I'd pick Methos. Now, just imagine 'Death' as a servant, especially given the fact that he lived long enough to probably meet a lot of the heroes of the war. Lots of noble phantasms and abilities that can be tinkered up for him.

 

[trevelyan1983]

Well, if we bring the immortals to the topic I think Connor would hardly be my first choice. Going by the series I'd pick Methos. Now, just imagine 'Death' as a servant, especially given the fact that he lived long enough to probably meet a lot of the heroes of the war. Lots of noble phantasms and abilities that can be tinkered up for him.

Problem there is, Methos is an enormously passive Immortal. He'll choose flight over fight most of the time, will drink Shiro out of house and home, and will generally be an insufferably sarcastic twat.

I'd break it down in the following way: Connor or Ramirez FTW. Mary-Sue MacLeod and his TV-verse buddies FTL.

 

[Cornuthaum]

Well, if we bring the immortals to the topic I think Connor would hardly be my first choice. Going by the series I'd pick Methos. Now, just imagine 'Death' as a servant, especially given the fact that he lived long enough to probably meet a lot of the heroes of the war. Lots of noble phantasms and abilities that can be tinkered up for him.

Problem there is, Methos is an enormously passive Immortal. He'll choose flight over fight most of the time, will drink Shiro out of house and home, and will generally be an insufferably sarcastic twat.

I'd break it down in the following way: Connor or Ramirez FTW. Mary-Sue MacLeod and his TV-verse buddies FTL.

Ramirez. He who exists to be awesome. :>

 

[Moshulel]

Problem there is, Methos is an enormously passive Immortal. He'll choose flight over fight most of the time, will drink Shiro out of house and home, and will generally be an insufferably sarcastic twat.

He's also an immortal that values his head quite a lot. Now mix that with the fact that all other masters and heroes are after it and you get a highly motivated 'Death'. I assume though it also depends on the version of Methos that we get to see.

 

[toraneko]

All that aside, Kurgan would probably be a really powerful Servant. Couldn't be Saber, since he's a big hulking brute and thus lacking in AGI. However, put him as Berserker... h43r:

I think Mad Enhancement either wouldn't work on him, or would give all the benefits and no detriments (to Kurgan, that is). The reason is the same for either: He has no sanity to lose. He really lived only to be cruel and to lose himself in battle.