Harry Potter The King Who Lived (Working Title) HP/FFXV Crossover Idea

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mandalorianjedi

The Original M2J
#1
A/N: This is something that's been running around in my head for a while and I finally decided to get it out. Admittedly, I can't claim full credit for the idea. This was inspired by TheDivineDemon at Twisting The Hellmouth and his fic idea Stand By Me in a Field of Blue. Let me know what you guys think about this idea.
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"You all right, Harry?" Ron asked.

"I'm fine." This was the typical response.

Of course, Harry was anything but fine. The strange dreams he'd always had were becoming more frequent... More vivid. Ever since the incident with the dementors at the end of the previous year; when the vision shifted from his parents being engulfed in green light, his mother begging Voldemort to spare his life to visions of a beautiful blonde girl whose last moments were spent ensuring his survival in a different way against another type of unstoppable monster; his mysterious dreams had become much more real.

Not the dreams with mysterious green light or a vague sense of flying. But dreams where he wasn't himself, but the Prince of a far off land, similar, but much different from everything Harry had ever known.

Looking to his friends, Harry wondered when and how he'd tell them about these strange dreams. Dreams where he had friends similar and yet very different from his own. Hermione, who's book eating brain was without peer and whose cooking skills would more than likely burn a house down while simply attempting to boil water. Neville, whose seemingly cowardly exterior hid a nerve of steel that would allow the boy have Harry's back no matter the circumstance. Whose way with plants had helped them survive once before. Ron, who never let his friends take themselves too seriously. Who would pull Hermione from her books, who wouldn't let Neville focus too long on his insecurities, who wouldn't let Harry be bogged down by his destiny... Who couldn't take a decent picture if his life depended on it.

How could he tell his friends that he only chose them to be his friends because they reminded him so much of people he'd only known in dreams?

As they boarded, helping each other load on their trunks, Harry caught a flash of color. He did a double take and tried not to be disappointed. The hair was the same color, but the girl who was sitting alone in the compartment was not her. He tried not to let the slight breaking his heart show as his heartbeat slowed to normal levels.

"That's Loony Lovegood," Ron said tactlessly.

"Who?" Harry inquired, welcome for the distraction.

"Luna Lovegood, who some people call 'Loony'," Ron replied. Harry was both startled and annoyed by this statement. Startled because of her name, annoyed because he knew what it was liked to be bullied and called names. Something must have shown on his face, as Ron became concerned. "Harry, you sure you're all right?"

Harry didn't reply, instead opting to open the compartment while knocking on the door. He tried not to be nervous as he addressed the mysterious Luna. "D-Do... Would you mind if we joined you?"

Ron, Neville and Hermione looked at each other in confusion, not knowing what to think. Harry couldn't blame them. He was a fairly closed off person. Between his dreams and the Dursleys, he perferred to keep to himself, letting precious few people in. The three of them were on a very exclusive list. And while he'd made an effort for Ron's family, moreso for Ginny than the others, since she too reminded him of one of the dream people, he still kept himself slightly apart. Despite his social shortcomings, Mr. and Mrs. Weasley never let his distance bother them, nor did they ever give him any indication that he was being bothersome or a burden- making him feel as welcome as he'd allow himself to feel.

He'd made it a point to tell them how much he appreciated all that they'd done for him.

Harry didn't think it was possible, but it seemed as if the almost perpetual look of surprise on Luna's face became even moreso. She smiled at him. It was a nice smile, he'd easily decided. "Sure. It will almost be like having friends."

Harry hated that the statement was so matter of fact and was determined to have a chat with Ron about it later. While Luna didn't quite feel like one of the dream people, not really, he felt the same sense of protectiveness over her than he did for Ron's sister. He wasn't entirely sure how someone like her could feel such unending optimism.

"Thank you," Harry said gratefully.

"You're Harry Potter," Luna stated the obvious. "I thought you'd be taller."

Harry smiled, which only got wider when he heard Hermione let out a snort.

"You're Hermione Granger," Luna said as Hermione brought the stranger girl's attention to herself. "Most Ravenclaws don't like you. They hate being considered second best, academically. Especially to a Gryffindor."

"I'm sorry?" Hermione replied somewhat confused as to whether she should be feeling guilty, concerned or smug.

"That's our Hermione for ya," Ron replied proudly with a grin, nudging the bushy haired bookworm playfully.

"Ronald Weasley. You're more handsome when you're not being rude," Luna replied, not pulling any punches.

Ron looked like he didn't know how to respond, but Harry was certain it would be in a negative way. Catching the red head's eye, Harry nonverbally warned his friend off. Ron merely shrugged, as he hadn't been certain what he was going to say to her anyway.

"And you're Neville Longbottom," Luna continued. "I overheard Hannah Abbott tell Susan Bones last year that she was disappointed you never asked her to Hogsmeade."

Neville blushed in embarassment.

"Go, Nev!" Ron nudged Neville, who promptly shoved him away.

"I'm Luna Cidrella Lovegood. But you can call me 'Loony'. Lots of people do," Luna replied.

Harry was glad to see Luna's blunt honesty made Ron uncomfortable. Of course, it had the same effect on him, Hermione and Neville as well.

"I think we'll just stick with calling you 'Luna', if it's all the same to you," Harry replied.

"If you wish," Luna acknowledged as she went back to reading her magazine.

It didn't take long for the quartet to settle into Luna's compartment. Ron, Hermione and Neville were chatting about innocuous topics, while Luna continued to read her magazine in silence, as the train got underway. Harry, meanwhile, was silent, trying to think of a way to broach the subject on his mind without sounding too crazy.

"What did you want to talk to me about, Your Highness?" Luna asked, directly addressing him.

The inquiry was so unexpected that he jumped slightly. "Pardon?"

"I was asking about what you wanted to talk to me about... Do you prefer 'Your Highness' or 'Your Majesty'?" Luna replied, completely lacking in selfconsciousness. "Do you feel more like a prince or a king?"

Harry could see Ron giving him an 'I Told You So' look.

Harry ignored it.

"I'm not either of those things," Harry responded.

"Not anymore, I suppose," Luna said in agreement.

"How...?" Harry started to ask, but couldn't figure out a way to coherently ask any of all he wanted to ask about.

"The Eidolons told me," Luna stated as if talking about the weather.

"Harry?" Hermione asked in concern. Neville and Ron simply looked confused. It was no surprise that Hermione was the first to pick-up that something was off about this conversation. This was not how he wanted to introduce the topic of his vision-like dreams to his friends.

"I'm not her, I'm afraid," Luna replied. Her smile shifted from being enigmatic to comiserating and compassionate. Harry looked away in an attempt to not show Luna just how much her words disappointed him. Instinctively, he'd known already who she wasn't, but he'd hoped.

"Not who?" Hermione asked Luna.

"His Oracle," Luna replied. Harry's friends were now looking back and forth between them, each of them wondering what she knew about their reclusive friend and how she knew it.

"Harry?" This time it was Neville who spoke up.

Harry continued to look out the window. This was not how he had wanted this to go. He was not in the slightest bit prepared for the conversation he was going to have to have with his friends. Despite himself, he couldn't bring himself to be mad at Luna. He wanted to be, but he just couldn't do it.

Pushing aside Neville's and the other's concern, he addressed Luna, though couldn't bring himself to look at her. He was hoping his feigned nonchalance would put his friends at ease. He highly doubted it would work, but tried anyway. "Those... What did you call them?"

"Eidolons."

"Those Eidolons... What all have they told you?" Harry inquired, trying to keep the hope out of his voice.

Luna's expression became regretful. Harry pretended not to notice. "I don't know who she is. They wouldn't say. But they have said that you'll be reunited with her soon. The Eidolons are hoping the two of you have a much happier ending this time."

"Harry, what's going on?" Ron asked, his tone equal parts worried and irritated.

"It's... Complicated..." Harry replied with a nonanswer in an attempt to stall for time. As much as he trusted his friends, and he trusted them absolutely, he didn't want to share this with them. Not yet. It was just too personal.

It was Luna who answered for him. As much as he felt like he should be irritated at her for doing so, he was more relieved that he wouldn't have to talk about... Her...

"He has memories of a past life."

Ron and Neville looked sceptical. Hermione, however, was more intrigued. "Like reincarnation?"

Luna shook her head. "More like transmigration. Reincarnation would be simply moving along the 'X' axis. In this case, the memories have moved along the 'Y' and the 'Z' axis as well."

Hermione looked like she had a thousand and one questions she wanted to ask. Harry, however, had other concerns. "The Eidolons... What are they?"

Luna bit her lip in worry, shooting a brief glance at Harry. "They are guardians."

"Guardians of what?" Ron bluntly asked.

"Life." Luna answered.

"Astrals," Harry said with a small amount of distaste.

While his past self hadn't blamed them for the destiny that befell him and the Oracle, he'd been too preoccupied by his duty to do so, Harry had no such distractions. He didn't hate them- at least he didn't think so- but they definitely weren't on his Christmas card list. They'd done what they'd done for the greater good and, admittedly, on some level, Harry understood. But that didn't mean he liked being manipulated into paying the price for saving the world, even if he'd have taken those actions anyway if it meant his friends could live happily ever after. That they were manipulating this life, like they had his previous one, did not sit well with him.

"Yes, but no. Mostly no," Luna replied.

Hermione looked like she wanted to ask, but Harry cut her off. "I... I don't want to talk about it. I will, just... Not right now..."

Wary of Harry's reaction, Neville decided to bite the bullet and ask Luna one of the questions that was no doubt on all of their minds. "What are Astrals?"

"They are similar to Eidolons, but not of this world. Similar, but not the same," Luna replied smoothly. "Like Eidolons, Aeons or Guardian Forces, they are beings of great power. Their primary purpose is to protect, but sometimes that power can be perverted or even misused or they can lose their way."

Harry closed his eyes, remembering the heat of the flames generated by one such Astral who'd lost his way. He wasn't certain he wanted the help of the Eidolons, but for now, he decided, he'd withhold judgement. If Luna was right, the Eidolons were not Astrals and thus could not be blamed for the actions of their counterparts, even if they were cut from the same cloth.

He'd had enough of that sort of thing at the Dursleys.

That didn't mean he'd trust them.

If not for their stubborness, The Oracle might not have needed to die. If not for their manipulations to ensure that the Oracle, the King of Light and the Founder-King followed their plans, perhaps so many people who had died, might not have needed to. He didn't even want to think about the ten years his other self had spent trapped inside a crystal while the whole world was plunged into an endless night and overrun by demons.

Despite the fact that he couldn't think of one, Harry couldn't help but think that there had to have been a different way to save the world... A better way. He shook off the feeling. There could be nothing gained by dealing in 'What ifs'. His past self had learned that the hard way after what happened in Altissia when she...

Whe She died.
 
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mandalorianjedi

The Original M2J
#3
Luna Lovegood even has a similar name to Lunafreya!

Good start, @mandalorianjedi . I'm looking forward to what comes next.
Her hair color and name are what drew him to her, but as is made clear in the snippet, Luna is NOT Lunafreya. In fact, if you paid attention to when she gave them her name, she is the fics 'Cid'. I even deliberately brought attention to the fact that little seems to phase her, much like Cindy/Cidney.
 

AoMythology

Apparently a report-er
#4
Her hair color and name are what drew him to her, but as is made clear in the snippet, Luna is NOT Lunafreya. In fact, if you paid attention to when she gave them her name, she is the fics 'Cid'. I even deliberately brought attention to the fact that little seems to phase her, much like Cindy/Cidney.
Yes, I realised that she's not Lunafreya - I'm bringing attention to the physical resemblance and the other coincidence. I wonder if he'll meet the actual Lunafreya transmigrant, though.
 

mandalorianjedi

The Original M2J
#5
That's the plan. The timeframe the fic takes place should be a bit of a clue as to whom I've chosen to be Lunafreya's transmigrant.

The only ones who are true transmigrants are Noctis and Lunafreya, but those closest to Harry do have similarities to those closest to Noctis. It's part of why they are his friends, as they help Harry feel connected to Noctis. However, just because Hermione, Neville and Ron remind Harry of Ignis, Gladiolus and Prompto, he is more than cognizant of the fact that his friends are not them. Even ignoring the fact that Hermione is a girl, she also can't cook to save her life. Ron likes to fish. While Neville does have talents similar to Gladio's, he doesn't have the King's Shield's bravery- not that Neville is actually a coward, but he does possess insecurities that hold him back.

One way I plan to deviate from canon, is that Ron won't turn his back on Harry after the Tournament selection process. I kind of want the quartet's relationship to be somewhat similar to Noctis and his friends- only younger. I'm not entirely sure I can pull it off, but I kinda want this to be partly a coming of age story: Hermione experiencing life out of books, Neville finding his bravery, Ron learning some tact, with Harry drawing on Noctis' experiences to help him deal with being the Boy Who Lived.

With the Eidolons, I'm having difficulty deciding which ones I should use, which ones would factor into the story- not to mention their heirarchy. Franchise staples like Shiva, Ifirit, and Bahamut are certainties. FFX had Bahamut as the leader of the Aeons. FFXIII used Odin as the most powerful/significant of the Eidolons. In FFXV, Bahamut, Shiva and Ifirit played the largest parts of the story. Despite trying not to fully equate the Eidolons with the Astrals, Harry won't get along very much with either Bahamut or Ifirit. At least a first.

My thoughts are to have the Eidolons interact with the group in a mix of their roles in FFIX, FFX, FFXIII, and FFXV. Luna will be their go between at first. What makes her special, I don't know. Perhaps it was a side effect of what her mother was doing when she died. Luna, other than the transmigrants, will be the only character who interacts with all of the Eidolons, whereas the others will only interact with the Eidolons appropriate to them. I doubt the Eidolons will be more than side minor/major characters. I don't forsee a situation where they would be used as summons.
 

MastaofBitches

Well-Known Member
#6
I'm kind of curious as to how the Novelisation of the Luna and Noct scrapped DLC's plays into things. Considering that Noct, Luna and Ardyn team up to kill Bahamut.
 

mandalorianjedi

The Original M2J
#7
I thought that the novelization was an epilogue for Episode: Ardyn. Showing the things that happened that were glossed over at the end of the DLC.
 

MastaofBitches

Well-Known Member
#8
I thought that the novelization was an epilogue for Episode: Ardyn. Showing the things that happened that were glossed over at the end of the DLC.
Nope. They released a Novel (only in Japan) that covered the events of the planned Episode Luna and Episode Noctis.
 

mandalorianjedi

The Original M2J
#9
Nope. They released a Novel (only in Japan) that covered the events of the planned Episode Luna and Episode Noctis.
Ah, because the only book I knew of was based off of the "good" non-canon ending of Episode: Ardyn, where Ardyn decided to defy Bahamut rather than go along with his plans. This leads to the three of them surviving that defeat of the Starscourge and Ardyn becoming known as The Founder-King, rather than his brother Sominus.
 

MastaofBitches

Well-Known Member
#10
Yeah, Dawn of the Future. Apparently it's supposed to make up for the fact they fucked everybody over by not releasing it as part of the actual game.
 
Eidolons- A discussion
#11
Okay, so I'm hoping for some input on a detail of the story that will be an intregal part of it.

The Eidolons.

So the Final Fantasy anthology has given us a lot to work with, with the various "Summons" they've had through out the games. In fact, more and more these beings are actually becoming Characters in their own right. Ifirit was a plot point in FF8. Garnet and Eiko's stories in FF9 revolved around them. As did Yuna and Tidus' story- particularly Valefor and Bahamut- in FFX. The FFXIII Trilogy and FFXV saw them become actual characters.

My aim is to continue the trend. As I said before, I have no current plans for them to act as a Summon (many of them would be incredibly OP), but I do want them as fully actualized characters with their own voice- not unlike Shiva/Gentiana in FFXV. Only without the extreme arrogance shown by the other Astrals, like Leviathan. Much like in FFXIII, I want certain Eidolons to gravitate towards certain characters.

One problem I'm facing is the fact that certain Summons have changed between games. The Lightning Summon, for instance, has been Ramuh (FF7, FF9, FFXV), Quezacotl (FF8), Ixion (FFX) and Odin (FFXIII).

Aside from choosing which Summons to use in this fic as Eidolongs, is figuring out which Eidolon chooses to go with whom. Also, in the event that I do end up using an Eidolon as a Summon, I'm considering them, like Shiva/Gentiana, having two seperate appearances. One where they directly interact with mortals and another where they rain holy/unholy vengeance on their paired match's enemies. So far, Ifirit, Shiva and Bahamut are locked in.

In the case of Ifirit, he's always had a bestial appearance- more so in some games (FF8, FFX) and less so in others (FF7, FFXV). In this case, his smaller more mortal form would take this to the logical extreme, where he'd be lionine, large, muscular with a wild mane that looks like it's on fire. Perhaps his tail, like Red XIII's would be have a small flame on the end.

Bahamut, in FFX was a child. In FFXV he was a Knight in heavy plate that bore a resemblance to a dragon, like is in every appearance. For this fic, I'm thinking of Bahamut actually be a she. A Dragon Knight, or Lancer, not unlike Aranea Highwind (FFXV).

I was also thinking of including the Moogle/Chocobo Summon from the Original FF7 as Eidolons. Underpowered, for sure, but I think they'd make fun additions. One thing I want to do with this duo, is split them apart. The Chocobo would just be a regular animal, albiet a unique one of a kind animal, but he wouldn't communicate with words. The moogle, on the other hand, would only communicate through Pokemon speak. As the absolute friendliest of the Eidolons, he'd be the only one to interact with everyone for certain, but the only ones who would be able to understand him when he talks are Harry, Luna and the Lunafreya Transmigrant.

So far, as far as pairing up Eidolons with certain characters, Harry, Luna and the Lunafreya Transmigrant are the only ones who will interact with every single Eidolon. Most of the other Eidolons will only interact with their chosen mortal, outside of the main three who have been chosen by all of the Eidolons.

This is what I've thought of thus far.

Harry-Boco (Chocobo Eidolon)
Luna- Kupo (Moogle Eidolon)
Ron- Ifirit (Fire Eidolon)
Neville- Bahamut (Dragon Eidolon)

The being said, I'm not against an Eidolon not interacting with the characters beyond Harry, Luna and the Lunafreya Transmigrant (and even then, not being on friendly terms with the trio). Or even a character having an affinity to more than one Eidolon (particularly Harry). Or even an Eidolon that has taking a liking to multiple mortals.

Let me hear some of your guy's input on how I can develope these potential characters.
 
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MastaofBitches

Well-Known Member
#12
It might help to know what the point of pairing off Eidolon's with humans actually is.
 
#13
It might help to know what the point of pairing off Eidolon's with humans actually is.
I was thinking in some cases, personality matches, like Ron-Ifirit. In other cases, to bring out the hidden potential, like the Neville-Bahamut match up. The Eidolons would be guiding Harry and his friends to be the best versions of themselves without interfering too much or directly if they can help it.

In the case of matching up Luna and Kupo, I just like the thought of Luna having a seemingly one sided conversation with a moogle. Boco, if I can work the situation into the story without forcing it, would be Harry's mount. I saw it pointed out that the Line of Lucis was, for all intents and purposes, the FFXV equivalent to FF7's Knights of the Round Summon. Harry, being Noctis' transmigrant, not to mention his general white knight tendencies, would see him take a similar role here.
 

MastaofBitches

Well-Known Member
#14
Bringing up "Personality" is a bit weird, considering they tend to have rather divergent personalities from game to game.
 
#15
Bringing up "Personality" is a bit weird, considering they tend to have rather divergent personalities from game to game.
A very valid point. Hell, the Moogle in FF9 acted as Eiko's guardian. Lightning and Odin had a pretty solid bond as well. However, the Astrals see humans as little more than nuisances. And all that ignores the fact that some of the Lightning/Thinder types have changed. Or the fact that Odin, in FFXIII was a Lightning Type, yet was a Death Type in FF8. Or the fact that Gilgamesh was a Death type in FF8, but was the ghost of the greatest warrior to ever live in FFXV.

The Eidolons in this fic would be more benevolent than the Astrals as a whole. However, I wish to give them each distinct personalities and view points.

Ifirit, for example, is a bestial, fire type Eidolon, so I want his personality to reflect that. Prideful, quick to anger, but a being whose anger burns hotly and quickly. Furthermore, he has years of experience controlling that anger. I like Ron, but one of his character traits/flaws is that he can be a hot head and prideful, something we saw in every book from Year 3 on. From Ifirit, Ron would have someone who could give him advice on controlling those flaws to make them an asset. Also, a boost in Fire based magic.
 
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MastaofBitches

Well-Known Member
#16
Fire and Water magics are really the only two elemental type spells I recall be banded about in canon.
 
#17
True, but I can take some creative liberties.

After all, a minor prank spell to cause static could be considering a lightning type spell. An extremely weak one, but a lightning spell all the same.

It wouldn't be out of the question for elemental magic to be so unheard of due to the Statute of Secrecy. Spells would be overall weaker, but more versatile due to the fact that wizards hide magic.

That could serve as a greater scope story arc, that the Eidolons want to bring magic back into prominence. I'm fairly certain that I could even tie that plot into the event that brought Luna to the attention to the Eidolons in the first place.
 

MastaofBitches

Well-Known Member
#18
It kind of sounds like you already know what you want to do with them then.
 
#19
Some of them sure. Others, not so much. But you've given me a lot to think about so far. I've actually got two Eidolon snippets in mind. A Ron/Ifirit scene and a Harry/Unknown Eidolon scene. I know who the Eidolon is, but spoilers. Although the canny Harry Potter reader might be able to figure it out.
 

MastaofBitches

Well-Known Member
#20
I do feel like Voldemort could probably afford to have Yojimbo on retainer, so long as he's still spending Lucius gold.
 
#22
I do feel like Voldemort could probably afford to have Yojimbo on retainer, so long as he's still spending Lucius gold.
This was something I thought about from multiple angles. I even considered that scenario. The problem is, like you pointed out earlier, the summons are never exactly the same from game to game. Even Shiva, Ifirit, and Bahamut, who have appeared in every game aren't exactly the same. I couldn't think of a way to establish Yojimbo as being different from his FFX counterpart.

Voldemort getting his own Eidolon partner was also something I went back and forth on. There are pros and cons to both scenarios. I think I've figured out a way to take a 3rd Option.

Of course that leads me to a conundrum with the whole Prophecy and whether or not I should try to come up with a new one.
 

MastaofBitches

Well-Known Member
#25
This was something I thought about from multiple angles. I even considered that scenario. The problem is, like you pointed out earlier, the summons are never exactly the same from game to game. Even Shiva, Ifirit, and Bahamut, who have appeared in every game aren't exactly the same. I couldn't think of a way to establish Yojimbo as being different from his FFX counterpart.

Voldemort getting his own Eidolon partner was also something I went back and forth on. There are pros and cons to both scenarios. I think I've figured out a way to take a 3rd Option.

Of course that leads me to a conundrum with the whole Prophecy and whether or not I should try to come up with a new one.
The money thing has always been consistent with Yojimo though, even when he was really Gilgamesh in FFXIV.
 
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