The Wheel Of Time
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On to the update, yeah?
We have our finally chapter of Elayne meeting with the High Seats of 4 major Houses - except that they are all even younger than Elayne - and sine Elayne is 18... yeah.
And then, when I thought I'd finally finished with the Succession Plot, we go meet some of Elayne's bitchy rivals. Yeah, not fun.
And then the next half of the chapter deals with Darkfriends, and how they have been at least partially responsible for some of the City's misfortune.
And it has proved that Mat really should have killed the bitch back in EotW, or at least tried harder in aCoS.
Then we finally move to Egwene, who is hesitating.
She doesn't want to go full throttle with the assualt, and her Travelling has disrupted Gareth's plans to blockade the harbour.
At the same time as she's trying to figure out how to unite the Tower with the least amount of bloodshed, she's dismissive of the idea of negotiating.
She's right to be, but its an interesting duality.
We have our finally chapter of Elayne meeting with the High Seats of 4 major Houses - except that they are all even younger than Elayne - and sine Elayne is 18... yeah.
And then, when I thought I'd finally finished with the Succession Plot, we go meet some of Elayne's bitchy rivals. Yeah, not fun.
And then the next half of the chapter deals with Darkfriends, and how they have been at least partially responsible for some of the City's misfortune.
And it has proved that Mat really should have killed the bitch back in EotW, or at least tried harder in aCoS.
Then we finally move to Egwene, who is hesitating.
She doesn't want to go full throttle with the assualt, and her Travelling has disrupted Gareth's plans to blockade the harbour.
At the same time as she's trying to figure out how to unite the Tower with the least amount of bloodshed, she's dismissive of the idea of negotiating.
She's right to be, but its an interesting duality.
That's actually a weird thing too. You would have thought that Bryne would point out to her that teleporting to Tar Valon's doorstep would mess up his plans.
You'd also assume that they would have decided on exactly what they intended to do before they got there. Seriously, did she just wake up, say 'I want to go put an army on the doorstep of the city I intend to rule in one of the most complicated political battles of my lifetime' and just assume that the rest would work itself out? They didn't even decide if they would attempt to negotiate from a position of power or use the advantage of surprise to take the Tower quickly, let alone what their demands would be if they did decide to negotiate?
You'd also assume that they would have decided on exactly what they intended to do before they got there. Seriously, did she just wake up, say 'I want to go put an army on the doorstep of the city I intend to rule in one of the most complicated political battles of my lifetime' and just assume that the rest would work itself out? They didn't even decide if they would attempt to negotiate from a position of power or use the advantage of surprise to take the Tower quickly, let alone what their demands would be if they did decide to negotiate?
What I think happened was this:
Bryne had a plan.
He'd given the bare bones to Egwene, but hadn't elaborated on the specifics because hey, he still had months to iron out the detials and impliment them.
He'd already told her that he intended to use ships to blockade the harbours, but he hadn't told her that he intended to get the ships XX miles south.
Then Egwene declares that she intends to Travel to the Tower in 1 month - which she had kept incredibly secret because she didn't fully trust, well, most Aes Sedai, really.
So we have this situation where they know exactly which day they are leaving, and arriving, with none of the distance inbetween covered, and by the time Bryne can come in and tell Egwene that its buggered up his seige plans, there is little they can do, because its not like Egwene can go back and say "Never mind, my mistake, we're all going the normal way."
As for negotiating - I think all the important and influenctial people knew that negotiating would be a dead end and it was pointless to even try.
They know that Elaida is a megolomanic and wouldn't step down unless forced.
They had as little hope that the Tower Hall would meet their demands as well, though they at least will listen.
So on one side, negoitations are a known dead end, but on the other a direct fight will end in Aes Sedai blood being spilt, which must not happen.
So a Seige is the best position at the moment, because they can begin demanding thing.
And they have actually come up with a Plan B for the seige, though only a few people even know they needed one.
Which brings me to the next part in my updates -
The Aes Sedai have rediscovered caullander - cool, but it came out of fricken nowhere.
The only explanation we get is that Moghedain taught Egwene all she knew, and Egwene built upon it from there, but still.
Then we move onto the Hall meeting and finding out that in light of the giant Saidar beacon, 3 Sitters hve put forth the idea to enter into an alliance with the Black Tower.
I remember being very happy with this idea the first time I read it, and I'm still rather pleased.
I'm still surprised at the vehamance that some of the Sitters opposed it though.
They suggested the Sitter who proposed it was a Darkfriend.
What, do they think that every man who can channel = Darkfriend and evil?
Well, I'm pretty sure Taim, if not a Darkfriend, is at least a giant cock and plotting against Rand, but still.
In the end, they agree to the idea, but not on how to go about it, and spend the rest of the day arguing about it.
Then we move onto Egwene Dreaming, which has a couple of interesting things.
Mat is bowling, killing thousands, Egwene is climbing a mountain and a Seanchen woman saves her, offering to do the climb together, and the Seanchen are going to strike the WT.
Bryne had a plan.
He'd given the bare bones to Egwene, but hadn't elaborated on the specifics because hey, he still had months to iron out the detials and impliment them.
He'd already told her that he intended to use ships to blockade the harbours, but he hadn't told her that he intended to get the ships XX miles south.
Then Egwene declares that she intends to Travel to the Tower in 1 month - which she had kept incredibly secret because she didn't fully trust, well, most Aes Sedai, really.
So we have this situation where they know exactly which day they are leaving, and arriving, with none of the distance inbetween covered, and by the time Bryne can come in and tell Egwene that its buggered up his seige plans, there is little they can do, because its not like Egwene can go back and say "Never mind, my mistake, we're all going the normal way."
As for negotiating - I think all the important and influenctial people knew that negotiating would be a dead end and it was pointless to even try.
They know that Elaida is a megolomanic and wouldn't step down unless forced.
They had as little hope that the Tower Hall would meet their demands as well, though they at least will listen.
So on one side, negoitations are a known dead end, but on the other a direct fight will end in Aes Sedai blood being spilt, which must not happen.
So a Seige is the best position at the moment, because they can begin demanding thing.
And they have actually come up with a Plan B for the seige, though only a few people even know they needed one.
Which brings me to the next part in my updates -
The Aes Sedai have rediscovered caullander - cool, but it came out of fricken nowhere.
The only explanation we get is that Moghedain taught Egwene all she knew, and Egwene built upon it from there, but still.
Then we move onto the Hall meeting and finding out that in light of the giant Saidar beacon, 3 Sitters hve put forth the idea to enter into an alliance with the Black Tower.
I remember being very happy with this idea the first time I read it, and I'm still rather pleased.
I'm still surprised at the vehamance that some of the Sitters opposed it though.
They suggested the Sitter who proposed it was a Darkfriend.
What, do they think that every man who can channel = Darkfriend and evil?
Well, I'm pretty sure Taim, if not a Darkfriend, is at least a giant cock and plotting against Rand, but still.
In the end, they agree to the idea, but not on how to go about it, and spend the rest of the day arguing about it.
Then we move onto Egwene Dreaming, which has a couple of interesting things.
Mat is bowling, killing thousands, Egwene is climbing a mountain and a Seanchen woman saves her, offering to do the climb together, and the Seanchen are going to strike the WT.
Even assuming that (which suggests that Egwene never bothered to ask her general for the specifics of what he planned) it's never explained why they can't just Travel back a bit and get the things he needs. Ships can (and have in many conflicts and journeys) been broken down and transported over land.
Side note: Bryne is one of the more intelligent people in the entire world. When the Aes Sedai approached him to build an army for them he actually demanded that the Aes Sedai promise to follow through on it. That alone puts him several ranks above most generals and nobles we see.
And Egwene doesn't authorize any negotiations until it's pointed out that her Aes Sedai are starting to get the sense that she's not doing anything other than sitting in front of Tar Valon. And she doesn't even have the sense to consult with even the Greys about what the terms should be. Because obviously the advice of the people who have been negotiating for decades (if not a century) on what you should demand, what you should be willing to concede and what you should stick to would be silly. Nope, all they need is a barely-adult woman with zero experience at negotiations to set exactly what the terms are. I greatly pity anyone ordered to negotiate under those circumstances.
And Taim is plotting. Admittedly Rand had a lot to handle in a very short period of time but considering that this is a school for human WMDs you would think he would have tried to have someone on the inside to keep an eye on his new teacher.
Side note: Bryne is one of the more intelligent people in the entire world. When the Aes Sedai approached him to build an army for them he actually demanded that the Aes Sedai promise to follow through on it. That alone puts him several ranks above most generals and nobles we see.
And Egwene doesn't authorize any negotiations until it's pointed out that her Aes Sedai are starting to get the sense that she's not doing anything other than sitting in front of Tar Valon. And she doesn't even have the sense to consult with even the Greys about what the terms should be. Because obviously the advice of the people who have been negotiating for decades (if not a century) on what you should demand, what you should be willing to concede and what you should stick to would be silly. Nope, all they need is a barely-adult woman with zero experience at negotiations to set exactly what the terms are. I greatly pity anyone ordered to negotiate under those circumstances.
And Taim is plotting. Admittedly Rand had a lot to handle in a very short period of time but considering that this is a school for human WMDs you would think he would have tried to have someone on the inside to keep an eye on his new teacher.
Moving on, we have Alviarin's return to the Tower - only to learn she is no longer Keeper, Elaida is no longer cowed and calling her a traitor to boot (and traitor = Black in Alviarins book). Then when Alviarin panics and calls Mesaana, the Chosen tells her that she's not going to help, she's still useful, and - Oh, hi Shadar Haden.
Come to punish Mesaana for not going to fight Rand?
And you like the Black Ajah and want them protected?
Yeah, right now Mesaana sucks, seeing as Fade punishment = rape. Most likely. Yeah, still EWWWWWWWWWWWWW! inducing.
And Alviarin gets marked and runs like a little bitch.
Then we move onto the Black Hunter - who has a chapter that has nothing to do with the Blacks. Its a chapter about how a fairly high standing Red plans to propose Red Sisters Bonding Asha'man as Warders in order to control them.
Well, I can't say I like the control part, but still, not a terrible idea as long as they don't decide to gentle them.
Warder brand Compulsion can only get you so far. Just ask Alanna and Rand.
Continuing, we have a Cadsuane chapter, mostly focused on her opinions on other characters.
Its failry interesting, considering it mentions that Aliva and Rand have this weird chemisty going on.
And you know what? My opinion on Cadsuane has changed somewhat in this re-read.
She's still a gigantic bitch, but shes a bitch I can respect somewhat.
Oh, and speaking of Aes Sedai and Channelling Warders, I was not pleased when I found out Merise took away Jarar's Dragon Pin, simply because "he's still at the stage where he has to learn to accept only what I say he can."
Yeah, that's pretty horrible.
We'll move on - Logain and Bashere arrive, the former telling Rand that he needs to do something about Taim.
Rand resists, saying that he has something else to deal with.
The Seanchen. He wants to make an truce with them.
Yeah. I can get behind this to some degree. After all, Rand wants as many people alive to fight in Tai'mon Gaidan as possible, and entering into an extended war is not the best possible way towards that goal.
When it comes to dealing with the BT or Seanchen, I'd go for the Seanchen too.
Then we move onto Perrin, who is going to buy some food.
That takes about 2 1/2 chapters, before Perrin arrives home to find Shaido being tortured.
He decides the days long wait he must endure is too slow and cuts a hand off. Then threatens to leave the 5 men as handless, feetless beggers.
Yeah, that's fucking cold.
Then he throws the Axe away in disgust.
All together, its probably the biggest omf of the Book.
Oh, and the shopping trip included ghosts and vermin.
Come to punish Mesaana for not going to fight Rand?
And you like the Black Ajah and want them protected?
Yeah, right now Mesaana sucks, seeing as Fade punishment = rape. Most likely. Yeah, still EWWWWWWWWWWWWW! inducing.
And Alviarin gets marked and runs like a little bitch.
Then we move onto the Black Hunter - who has a chapter that has nothing to do with the Blacks. Its a chapter about how a fairly high standing Red plans to propose Red Sisters Bonding Asha'man as Warders in order to control them.
Well, I can't say I like the control part, but still, not a terrible idea as long as they don't decide to gentle them.
Warder brand Compulsion can only get you so far. Just ask Alanna and Rand.
Continuing, we have a Cadsuane chapter, mostly focused on her opinions on other characters.
Its failry interesting, considering it mentions that Aliva and Rand have this weird chemisty going on.
And you know what? My opinion on Cadsuane has changed somewhat in this re-read.
She's still a gigantic bitch, but shes a bitch I can respect somewhat.
Oh, and speaking of Aes Sedai and Channelling Warders, I was not pleased when I found out Merise took away Jarar's Dragon Pin, simply because "he's still at the stage where he has to learn to accept only what I say he can."
Yeah, that's pretty horrible.
We'll move on - Logain and Bashere arrive, the former telling Rand that he needs to do something about Taim.
Rand resists, saying that he has something else to deal with.
The Seanchen. He wants to make an truce with them.
Yeah. I can get behind this to some degree. After all, Rand wants as many people alive to fight in Tai'mon Gaidan as possible, and entering into an extended war is not the best possible way towards that goal.
When it comes to dealing with the BT or Seanchen, I'd go for the Seanchen too.
Then we move onto Perrin, who is going to buy some food.
That takes about 2 1/2 chapters, before Perrin arrives home to find Shaido being tortured.
He decides the days long wait he must endure is too slow and cuts a hand off. Then threatens to leave the 5 men as handless, feetless beggers.
Yeah, that's fucking cold.
Then he throws the Axe away in disgust.
All together, its probably the biggest omf of the Book.
Oh, and the shopping trip included ghosts and vermin.
Do you know what I find vaguely funny.
Even separated by vast distances, RPM still all seem to come up with the "Work with the Seanchen" idea within weeks of one another.
What the Pattern wants, the Pattern gets.
So, Tuon and Mat was actually a pretty interesting courtship.
Or maybe its only interesting in relation to the rest of the book?
Still, its all about trust, promises and subtleties. It was pretty cool.
Oh, and
ôFortune rides like the sun on high
with the fox that makes the ravens fly.
Luck his soul, the lightning his eye,
He snatches the moons from out of the sky.ö
Bitchin.
I'd forgotten that Mat had a verse in the Prophecies.
Does Perrin have one too?
Probably.
Then Mat has is responsible for girl number 3's death, and Tuon flat out tells him she was a traitor, both to Seanchen and him, and killing her was justice.
Yeah, its kinda easy to forget that Mat, and to lesser degree Perrin, have the no "no killing women" policy akin to Rand.
Except all to completely different levels of course.
Then we move on to Egwene, where more political intrege happens,where a Bond taliored for Asha'man is discussed, and Egwene calls it out for being Compulsion, which was coo..., and then she goes and gets herself captured in a raid, doing something to the harbour chains.
Then we finish with Rand, who gets word that the talks are a go.
And we're done.
But first, this delightful poem written by (presumably) an Asha'man. Or possibly Rand
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
I like it. I like it alot.
And finished. Time now: 22:24, Sunday.
Even separated by vast distances, RPM still all seem to come up with the "Work with the Seanchen" idea within weeks of one another.
What the Pattern wants, the Pattern gets.
So, Tuon and Mat was actually a pretty interesting courtship.
Or maybe its only interesting in relation to the rest of the book?
Still, its all about trust, promises and subtleties. It was pretty cool.
Oh, and
ôFortune rides like the sun on high
with the fox that makes the ravens fly.
Luck his soul, the lightning his eye,
He snatches the moons from out of the sky.ö
Bitchin.
I'd forgotten that Mat had a verse in the Prophecies.
Does Perrin have one too?
Probably.
Then Mat has is responsible for girl number 3's death, and Tuon flat out tells him she was a traitor, both to Seanchen and him, and killing her was justice.
Yeah, its kinda easy to forget that Mat, and to lesser degree Perrin, have the no "no killing women" policy akin to Rand.
Except all to completely different levels of course.
Then we move on to Egwene, where more political intrege happens,where a Bond taliored for Asha'man is discussed, and Egwene calls it out for being Compulsion, which was coo..., and then she goes and gets herself captured in a raid, doing something to the harbour chains.
Then we finish with Rand, who gets word that the talks are a go.
And we're done.
But first, this delightful poem written by (presumably) an Asha'man. Or possibly Rand
We rode on the winds of the rising storm,
We ran to the sounds of the thunder.
We danced among the lightning bolts,
and tore the world asunder.
I like it. I like it alot.
And finished. Time now: 22:24, Sunday.
COT has left me drained.
And I'm bereft of KOD.
Shit.
A couple of points.
COT actually wasn't as horrible as I remember it being.
True, not alot happens, but when seen as an intermediary....
Well, COT was the last book out when I started readin the series at age 13, and I had to wait 2 years for KOD.
COT looks tons better when you know you can pick up KOD any day now
Still the worst in the series though.
And I'm bereft of KOD.
Shit.
A couple of points.
COT actually wasn't as horrible as I remember it being.
True, not alot happens, but when seen as an intermediary....
Well, COT was the last book out when I started readin the series at age 13, and I had to wait 2 years for KOD.
COT looks tons better when you know you can pick up KOD any day now
Still the worst in the series though.
It doesn't explain it quite so clearly - it says the chains turned white due to Egwene's weave. And then described the weave for cuendillar, without actually naming it
There was a lot of talk of who was best at it, but I don't think anyone ever actually said - "The plan is to turn the chains into cuendillar"
Jordan just made it so blindingly obvious that it quite literally did not need to be said.
There was a lot of talk of who was best at it, but I don't think anyone ever actually said - "The plan is to turn the chains into cuendillar"
Jordan just made it so blindingly obvious that it quite literally did not need to be said.
And Egwene went, on her own, to do this. Yeah. Hey Elayne! You'd better hurry up and do something stupid, I think Egwene's beating you out on number of times kidnapped! Seriously how many times has it been now? I might be getting mean by now, but I am honestly wondering if Jordan's plan to pad out books or figure out how to get NEE somewhere was to have them kidnapped.
Be fair.
Egwene was betrayed.
And it was supposed to be a quick in-out mission.
Though this does make me curious.
Rand - 1 - LOC
Perrin - 1 - EOTW (Whitecloaks)
Mat - 0 - Unless him being held in DR counts. Or his time with Tylin/Seanchen in WH.
Nyneave - DR x 2, SR (If you count moghedian) FOH x 2 (bandits, Black Ajah, Forkroot lady and Moghedain)
Egwene - EOTW, GH, DR x 2, COT. (Whitecloaks, Seanchen, Bandits, Black and Aes Sedai)
Elayne - DR x 2, FOH.
Yeah, feel free to add to that, cause I can't remember.
Egwene was betrayed.
And it was supposed to be a quick in-out mission.
Though this does make me curious.
Rand - 1 - LOC
Perrin - 1 - EOTW (Whitecloaks)
Mat - 0 - Unless him being held in DR counts. Or his time with Tylin/Seanchen in WH.
Nyneave - DR x 2, SR (If you count moghedian) FOH x 2 (bandits, Black Ajah, Forkroot lady and Moghedain)
Egwene - EOTW, GH, DR x 2, COT. (Whitecloaks, Seanchen, Bandits, Black and Aes Sedai)
Elayne - DR x 2, FOH.
Yeah, feel free to add to that, cause I can't remember.
They've been betrayed and/or set up multiple times, not counting the times they were captured because they didn't have a group of armed guards around them. Considering that Egwene is the Amyrlin Seat and she didn't have the brains to bring five or six Aes Sedai plus warders I give her zero slack.
I don't remember Mat being captured in The Dragon Reborn. Do you mean the time he spent at Tar Valon when Siuan ordered the guards not to let him leave the city? I suppose technically you could call that one for him.
I don't remember Mat being captured in The Dragon Reborn. Do you mean the time he spent at Tar Valon when Siuan ordered the guards not to let him leave the city? I suppose technically you could call that one for him.
I was. Its kind of iffy, if I should count it or not.
Its not like an enemy captured him or anything. An ally (sort of) just didn't allow him to leave.
And the Chain thing - grant, this was supposed to be an in-out stealth mission. The boat is not exactly huge, and in this instance the smaller the party = the less noise = less chance of discovery.
Bringing 5-6 Aes sedai + warders would have completely negated the attempt at stealth.
Its not like an enemy captured him or anything. An ally (sort of) just didn't allow him to leave.
And the Chain thing - grant, this was supposed to be an in-out stealth mission. The boat is not exactly huge, and in this instance the smaller the party = the less noise = less chance of discovery.
Bringing 5-6 Aes sedai + warders would have completely negated the attempt at stealth.
And nobody notices the great big chain, the thing that protects the city, being changed at the molecular level?
Also I have never accepted the 'it's a covert mission so we're sending in only one person' excuse. There's a reason why no one does that in real life. Because one stray rock, one slip, one lucky arrow and the entire mission would go down the drain.
For that matter, why is it supposed to be covert? What does Egwene care if the Tower Sedai know how to make cuellandar? It's not like they could stop her considering how quickly she apparently did it.
And lastly, why did it have to be Egwene? She is, as I mentioned, the Amyrlin Seat of these people. Even if she's the best at making the stuff there are still plenty of other, more expendable Aes Sedai.
Also I have never accepted the 'it's a covert mission so we're sending in only one person' excuse. There's a reason why no one does that in real life. Because one stray rock, one slip, one lucky arrow and the entire mission would go down the drain.
For that matter, why is it supposed to be covert? What does Egwene care if the Tower Sedai know how to make cuellandar? It's not like they could stop her considering how quickly she apparently did it.
And lastly, why did it have to be Egwene? She is, as I mentioned, the Amyrlin Seat of these people. Even if she's the best at making the stuff there are still plenty of other, more expendable Aes Sedai.
Of course they'd notice... eventually. But the longer it takes the longer they have to complete the weave.
Or alerted the guards described as not too far away.
One slip from any team member/ fellow weaver would fuck them all over though. 3 people = 3 times the chances of fucking up and getting the lot of them captured.
And why covert? To stop them getting captured or stopped.
And this ties into your last point.
It wasn't supposed to be Egwene. It was supposed to be Bodewhin, but at the last minute Egwene decided it would be wrong to force Bodewhin, a Novice of like, 3-5 months, to go on a dangerous mission. And she was already like 3rd seat. The next in line would have taken even longer.
And it could have taken Bodewhin a couple of hours, hence the need for covert.
Or alerted the guards described as not too far away.
One slip from any team member/ fellow weaver would fuck them all over though. 3 people = 3 times the chances of fucking up and getting the lot of them captured.
And why covert? To stop them getting captured or stopped.
And this ties into your last point.
It wasn't supposed to be Egwene. It was supposed to be Bodewhin, but at the last minute Egwene decided it would be wrong to force Bodewhin, a Novice of like, 3-5 months, to go on a dangerous mission. And she was already like 3rd seat. The next in line would have taken even longer.
And it could have taken Bodewhin a couple of hours, hence the need for covert.
That doesn't surprise me considering Jordan intended the book after KOD to be the last one.
What I've got so far - Galad is awesome, killing Valda the Whitecloak rapist.
Boy did Tigraine have a Badass gene running through her veins.
Then we move onto Rodel Ituralde, the Arad Doman general last mentioned in COT prolouge, who I've deciced to name drop for bloodying the Seanchen like he did. And this is only part one of his multifaceted plan, of which he has many backups.
Then the Seanchen reaction to this, as well as finding out that Semirhage slaghtered most of the royal family.
And I'm offiacially adding that I seriously doubt the Forsaken have any idea that Mat and/or Perrin are Important.
Moridin does. And possibly Lanfear/whatever her name is now. But the rest? Doubt it. Or if they do, not half of what they should.
Because seriously; Semirhage was in the same room as Mat, and seemingly didn't recognise him.
If she did, she gave no indication of it that I could see, and hasn't seen fit to ask "Yeah, the night Toun disappeared? Where'd that Ta'veren go? Is he still here, or what?"
Cause you know, if someone important disappears on me, the first question I'd ask is "Where da Ta'veren at?"
Moving on we get on update on the Black Hunters, who've hit a dead end. We also get an update on the WT, including the Red's plans to bond Asha'man - approved by the Head Red; and that news of Dumei Wells and the botched attack in the Tower has finally reached Tar Valon in full force.
Oh, and an update on Alviarin, who is starting to hunt the hunters.
And finally we come to Galina, who, rather than explain some things to Perrin, decides lies and deceit are the best option. I look forward to seeing she get what's coming to her, the bitch.
What I've got so far - Galad is awesome, killing Valda the Whitecloak rapist.
Boy did Tigraine have a Badass gene running through her veins.
Then we move onto Rodel Ituralde, the Arad Doman general last mentioned in COT prolouge, who I've deciced to name drop for bloodying the Seanchen like he did. And this is only part one of his multifaceted plan, of which he has many backups.
Then the Seanchen reaction to this, as well as finding out that Semirhage slaghtered most of the royal family.
And I'm offiacially adding that I seriously doubt the Forsaken have any idea that Mat and/or Perrin are Important.
Moridin does. And possibly Lanfear/whatever her name is now. But the rest? Doubt it. Or if they do, not half of what they should.
Because seriously; Semirhage was in the same room as Mat, and seemingly didn't recognise him.
If she did, she gave no indication of it that I could see, and hasn't seen fit to ask "Yeah, the night Toun disappeared? Where'd that Ta'veren go? Is he still here, or what?"
Cause you know, if someone important disappears on me, the first question I'd ask is "Where da Ta'veren at?"
Moving on we get on update on the Black Hunters, who've hit a dead end. We also get an update on the WT, including the Red's plans to bond Asha'man - approved by the Head Red; and that news of Dumei Wells and the botched attack in the Tower has finally reached Tar Valon in full force.
Oh, and an update on Alviarin, who is starting to hunt the hunters.
And finally we come to Galina, who, rather than explain some things to Perrin, decides lies and deceit are the best option. I look forward to seeing she get what's coming to her, the bitch.