Tower of God
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We have't really been given any exact lifespans, and in fact it seems climbing the tower might make you immortal (since the king is still alive as are all the heads and rankers). As for the average time to reach the top, the closest we've been given is the fact that the fastest time is held by the irregular Urek Mazino, at fifty years, with Yuri's time being given as one hundred years to the top (which was still considered ridiculously fast).
Edit: 500 years is stated to be the average time it takes to climb the tower, and Yuri is only 600 years old.
Edit: 500 years is stated to be the average time it takes to climb the tower, and Yuri is only 600 years old.
So I finally picked this up after putting it off.
It feels... it feels like a "psychic battle" type of manga more than a typical "battle" manga... Baam feels like a "wild talent" kind of Esper that hasn't awoken to great inborn power, you know?
Anyway, I gotta admit, for me, even if it's ridiculous, the most confusing thing is that I kept expecting Baam to have Avider's personality.
It feels... it feels like a "psychic battle" type of manga more than a typical "battle" manga... Baam feels like a "wild talent" kind of Esper that hasn't awoken to great inborn power, you know?
Anyway, I gotta admit, for me, even if it's ridiculous, the most confusing thing is that I kept expecting Baam to have Avider's personality.
Yeah, when I first saw that, I figured it was just her being worried that he was growing apart from her, but now...
Honestly, I'm still curious about how she found his prison and whether she knows why he was in it. At times it seemed she just assumed he was weak, but that wouldn't make sense if he was sealed up for being potentially dangerous, unless she isn't aware of the reasons or the meaning behind him being down there.
Honestly, I'm still curious about how she found his prison and whether she knows why he was in it. At times it seemed she just assumed he was weak, but that wouldn't make sense if he was sealed up for being potentially dangerous, unless she isn't aware of the reasons or the meaning behind him being down there.
Wait, was it a prison? I thought it was just a place he'd stumbled into. Or something.
Actually, this begs a question: Baam's clothes. In the earliest flashbacks, he's wearing a robe of some kind, but later he's in his vest. Where did Rachel get clothes for him if it was a place he couldn't leave? I had assumed that Rachel was trapped with him, but maybe HE was the one sealed from leaving, unless he went to the Tower.
Actually, this begs a question: Baam's clothes. In the earliest flashbacks, he's wearing a robe of some kind, but later he's in his vest. Where did Rachel get clothes for him if it was a place he couldn't leave? I had assumed that Rachel was trapped with him, but maybe HE was the one sealed from leaving, unless he went to the Tower.
It definately wasn't somewhere he'd stumbled into. He was put down there by someone or something - who knows when or why. (Someone said that their's a rock with the King's seal on it somewhere in Baam's prison, but I've never seen it personally. Anyone got a link?)
Racheal could and did come and go as she pleased, telling Baam that he had to say down there. I imagine she brought him clothes at some point.
Racheal could and did come and go as she pleased, telling Baam that he had to say down there. I imagine she brought him clothes at some point.
There is no shinsoo outside of the Tower. Only air. In one of the author's little out of manhwa notes, he made an intro to a in-universe weapons text that said only air exists outside of the Tower and that the few Irregulars who bother to talk to people often complain about how shinsoo feels 'boggy,' which makes sense because it's some magic liquid thing. Kinda like Mist in Final Fantasy XII. In fact apparently a lot of swords start to fail in the upper levels because Shinsoo is so thick, it bogs them down and special versions have to be made.
I'll edit this later when I'm on a comp and not a cell phone.
Edit: Found it
Also, new chapter is hilarious. Spoilers in white.
So the whole point of the test is that 8 people are selected. However, that doesn't mean it's the top 8 from the Shinsoo strength test. In fact, the highest ranking (Baam) gets to choose the seven others that will climb with him. Needless to say, douche!Prince is pissed and Wangnam is ecstatic.
I'll edit this later when I'm on a comp and not a cell phone.
Edit: Found it
Also, new chapter is hilarious. Spoilers in white.
So the whole point of the test is that 8 people are selected. However, that doesn't mean it's the top 8 from the Shinsoo strength test. In fact, the highest ranking (Baam) gets to choose the seven others that will climb with him. Needless to say, douche!Prince is pissed and Wangnam is ecstatic.
Hm, the Korean version updated. Looks like Baam is being given the chance to take people with him up the Tower like that mafia boss kid.
More importantly, the artist drew Baam's eyes for what might be first time since the time skip. Humanizing him? Mysterious! LOTS OF SPECULATION FOR EVERY-- *is shot*
More importantly, the artist drew Baam's eyes for what might be first time since the time skip. Humanizing him? Mysterious! LOTS OF SPECULATION FOR EVERY-- *is shot*
There's also Phantamium, who came literally out of the wood-work, stormed the Zahard family fortress, bought its entire defense force to its absolute knees, and then disappeared without so much as a blip on the radar. Sure, Urek may be a regular, but Phantamium is just a whole different category of "oh god..."
Actually Urek is an Irregular, just like the others, which is why he was able to shrink an entire forest just by shouting really loud. But yeah, Phantaminum popped out of absolutely nowhere at the very top of the tower and lolpwned everyone like it was nothing, then left just as quickly, with only fleeting glimpses of him being seen since then.
From what we've been shown so far, Urek seems to be the most tame of the Irregulars, despite being quite young (though I'm only guessing at this, since Androssi is stated to be around 300 and its mentioned that few start climbing at such an old age) and the fact that he went toe to toe with one of the family heads during his climb and was stated to be stronger. It's kind of hard to compete with the others when you have King Zahard himself, a guy who can kill guardians and supposedly give life through shinsoo alone (though artificial beings apparently aren't that far out in ToG), a guy who can lay waste to an entire court of powerful rankers, and a kid seemingly immune to shinsoo as your competition in cool abilities/reputations. Though it was said he can manipulate Shinsoo without a contract like Baam, so who knows if he has anything else up his sleave.
From what we've been shown so far, Urek seems to be the most tame of the Irregulars, despite being quite young (though I'm only guessing at this, since Androssi is stated to be around 300 and its mentioned that few start climbing at such an old age) and the fact that he went toe to toe with one of the family heads during his climb and was stated to be stronger. It's kind of hard to compete with the others when you have King Zahard himself, a guy who can kill guardians and supposedly give life through shinsoo alone (though artificial beings apparently aren't that far out in ToG), a guy who can lay waste to an entire court of powerful rankers, and a kid seemingly immune to shinsoo as your competition in cool abilities/reputations. Though it was said he can manipulate Shinsoo without a contract like Baam, so who knows if he has anything else up his sleave.
In a universe where superpowers are standard hat, the Irregulars come across as freaking gods. The only apparent difference between the Irregulars and Zahard is that Zahard came first.
That's part of what I find so appealing about the whole deal. It takes the entire universal power scale up a notch. The normal people are supers, and the supers are nigh-godlike beings of distilled and elegantly crafted OH SHI-.
I still want to know the ramifications of Baam being accepted by the Tower but still forcing his way in none-the-less (thereby giving him the best of both worlds), while she is the exact opposite (was rejected by the Tower but wound up inside anyway because it was trying to bring in Baam), thereby giving her the worst of both worlds (i.e. the Tower doesn't like her but she doesn't have the power to override it).
That's part of what I find so appealing about the whole deal. It takes the entire universal power scale up a notch. The normal people are supers, and the supers are nigh-godlike beings of distilled and elegantly crafted OH SHI-.
I still want to know the ramifications of Baam being accepted by the Tower but still forcing his way in none-the-less (thereby giving him the best of both worlds), while she is the exact opposite (was rejected by the Tower but wound up inside anyway because it was trying to bring in Baam), thereby giving her the worst of both worlds (i.e. the Tower doesn't like her but she doesn't have the power to override it).
I'm actually starting to think Rachel didn't come in by accident. Not that she's a true regular, but it almost seems like Headon and the others who are seemingly helping Baam brought her along as a way to motivate Baam (through pretty fucked up means). She was made to watch as Baam displayed how utterly out of her league he was, and then told by those helping Baam that betraying him was the only way she could get what she wanted. And honestly, Baam never cared much about the tower in the first place, and even if he was just following her, that wouldn't have provided the same kind of motivation as revenge would. There's definitely more going on than we can see and I'm curious about how it all fits together.
I'm also curious about why Baam doesn't just ask the Guardian for a test and do things the old fashioned way without going through the standard trials. It seemed like as an irregular, it was his right to do so, so there are probably reasons that preclude it as a viable means of going up (or Baam just doesn't want to do it for some reason).
As a side note: I miss Gator. It feels like it's been so long since we saw Raleader. =(
I'm also curious about why Baam doesn't just ask the Guardian for a test and do things the old fashioned way without going through the standard trials. It seemed like as an irregular, it was his right to do so, so there are probably reasons that preclude it as a viable means of going up (or Baam just doesn't want to do it for some reason).
As a side note: I miss Gator. It feels like it's been so long since we saw Raleader. =(
Protip: That's actually Enryu who did both those. Anyway, I'm pretty sure FUG and Baam's handlers want his status as an Irregular on the down low (since to take a test from a Guardian, you have to be an Irregular). The whole point of Baam 'dying' was so Zahard wouldn't know about him. By introducing another Irregular, that's just asking to paint a target on yourself.
I can't wait to see the FUG leader though. Baam's alias has the guys family name, so he's been adopted by the 15th Ranker in the Tower. I'm expecting him to be some eccentric proud papa who's always happy about Baam, just for the disconnect between his personality and his goals and methods of the leader of FUG.
I can't wait to see the FUG leader though. Baam's alias has the guys family name, so he's been adopted by the 15th Ranker in the Tower. I'm expecting him to be some eccentric proud papa who's always happy about Baam, just for the disconnect between his personality and his goals and methods of the leader of FUG.