Harry Potter Typical in any HP story

kingdark

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#1
This is something i personally dislike in any hp story.

When authors write scenes of voldemort, and make him torture his followers for the smallest things.
I mean c'mon, torture for a failed mission, torture for a comment no;

Tom riddle, was the most one of the best students of the time. Even after the dark arts transformations, your intelligence doesnt drop from that.

There are very few stories were voldemort still is a dark lord and is smart too.

Here are a few things I think are important to avoid the above

a) Let Voldemort tolerate comments of his followers.

B) Don't let voldemort appear as a nut, but as an Slytherin. b-1) for example: to keep the number of wizards and witches fresh, they need a firm supply in muggle born. thus the ones with too little power are obliviated of all knowledge, to continue with their lives.

The muggle borns who are powerful enough, are allowed to stay in the wizarding world.

It isn't a perfect goal, but you cant tell me that the pure blood families are stupid right? even they should have the brains to admit they need fresh blood to prevent inbreeding.

Anyway, I just figured I should point this out and see if anyone agrees with me. one other comment i have is that a dark lord cant rise to the point they fear his NAME, if he has a lower iq then a chicken.

Kenny
 

SotF

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#2
The thing is that Voldemort is portrayed as having gone nuts. He is a complete lunatic who has tortured his own followers for slights and failures. However, most stories seem to put more emphasis on the torture for no reason part of it.

For the muggleborn issue, he seems to hate them with a deranged passion as portrayed by his followers torturing muggles and how they treat the muggleborn
 

Drawde

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#3
I don't think the purebloods would keep the muggleborn. There's so few of them, that they're already getting imbred, in order to keep the families pureblooded. They're all related to each other, as per canon. So I don't think they care.
 

genhoss

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#4
I don't think Pure bloods that side with Voldie care about imbreeding either, even if they reconized the need for new blood from muggles their pride would keep them from acting on it.

Also imbreeding has been a world wide tradition for royal families, perdating written history. Now while pure bloods are not neccisarily royalty thier posh group is similait enough.

As far as voldie's intelligence goes, well he is brillaint but he's also insane as well as has no knack for complicated planning. I mean how hard is it to kill a kid?

especailly considering that tommy is a half blood so he doesn't have the pure blood ignorance about muggles so he should know how to find Harry's aunt and hire a thug to off harry.

then again perhaps Mr. Riddle is only smart with magic and is lacking in the other skills that would make him a succesful evil overlord.
 

BakaNeko

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#5
I'm usually in agreement with stories that have "Wizards don't need common sense, they have magic."

Most of those stories are about the prideful old-types wanting to keep their power through unfounded hate.
 
#6
The only Voldemort i have ever seen that acted like a Dark Lord, not a Dark Dork, was in "Stranger in a strange land". That one was a kickass. In most stories he's just a somewhat powerful moron.
 

genhoss

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#7
the thing is though, wou;dn't a bad ass Voldemort be OOC? I mean the guy has too much of a sence of dramatics and is more like a Dr Evil sort of enemy. all he had to do to get rid of potter was to do something like

it was harry's first day of DADA and proffesser Quirrell gave him a detention already.

Arriving at the appointed time and place Harry walked into the room and waited for the proffessor to address him.

"Your punishments in my office just walk in there and you will know it when you see it."

Harry shrugged glad to be out of the mans presence and opened the door allowing it to close behind him.

BOOM

some sort of magical troll trap ensnares harry and kills him, it's a shame that they were nessisary becuse the subject was required but alls well that ends well.

granted that would be a bit over the top but in a realm where magic is possible it can't be that hard to kill somebody.

So my point being, that even though Voldimort shows some planning ability he is lacking becuse his sence of dramatics nullifies his plans, in GOF he gave Harry back his wand when he could have just killed him then but he wanted entertainment and any villain who choses entertainment over practicality is bound to fail.
 

foesjoe

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#8
Voldemort has to be a moron, otherwise there wouldn't be a happy end. If he had as much common sense as he is powerful, he'd just order all his secret followers to go around and kill everyone that's not a Death Eater with the instant death spell. (Can't remember the name) Even Harry Potter would be killed by any ordinary Death Eater using that spell on him, he only has protection against Voldemort in the beginning, there's nothing said about protection against his followers.

And IIRC Voldemort's hate of Muggle's stems from some bad experience in his childhood. He did kill his own parents, after all. Also, Voldemort wants to become immortal, he wouldn't need "New Blood" and I think he doesn't really care what happens to his followers as far as inbreeding goes.
 

Amberion

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#9
Not sure I agree with the inbreeding thing. There must be a lot of Pureblood families around the world. And since we have seen that race doesn't make a difference in the wizarding world, they could hunt for partner around the world. Not only that, second cousins and things like that would not lead to inbreeding, heck not even a child between cousins would be bad unless it's generations upon generations.
 

SotF

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#10
For Voldemort giving Harry back his wand, to me it seemed more of him planning on defeating Harry in a "fair" fight to show that he could beat the one who beat him. It was a move to ensure support with people and ensure the fear of him.
 

genhoss

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#11
I don't know to me it seems a bit dramatic when i could have the satisfaction of destroying my foe by immobilizing him and slowly choking the life out of him.

Then again I'm not evil with the ability to cast magic.
 

SotF

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#12
genhoss said:
I don't know to me it seems a bit dramatic when i could have the satisfaction of destroying my foe by immobilizing him and slowly choking the life out of him.

Then again I'm not evil with the ability to cast magic.
Also remember that Harry by rights should have died there, it was a magical deus Ex Machina that let him survive.

Harry is a partially trained child who had to fight his way through a maze and then was losing blood thanks to Pettigrew. Then he had everything else.

Scared, Tired, and Weak: he should have died.
 
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