Bleach Untitled Bleach/AMG AU Fic Chapter Three

[Tsuki_CB]

As far as Captain strength in, comparison to god, goes have you considered making them as powerful as your average god/goddess, but their power is cruder for a lack of a good word.

In other words they can get way up there and be equal in sheer power, but it can't be used to do all the things divine power can be used for, altering reality for example.

This could be what makes the Hogyoku so dangerous because when a Shinigami uses it it converts their power to Divine/Infernal and then you start to have gods/goddess running around without a checks or balance system, and it gives weight to Aizen as a threat.

Also I don't really like the thought of Ichigo going Vizard in this one, seeing as Belldandy is his mother I hardly think she's going to stand by and let him do that to his own soul, instead I like the thought of him slowly learning to tap into his Divine powers until the end of the story, which could go either way on this subject.

Remember that when it gets harder to make two universes fit together it just means you have to go a little bit further off the beaten trail.

 

[LORD_ARM]

The only reason why she's a Second Class Management Limited is because Urd has a tendency to lie and cause mischief, not because she's weaker than Belldandy. It's a punishment, not an indication of her actual power. Even then, Urd is the sysadmin of Yggdrasil, which makes her one of the most important position holders in all of Heaven. So yeah... a lot of fics mistakenly assume Urd is weaker than Belldandy. It's the opposite.

You wrong, they told her the reason she did not get to become 1st. class was because she is half demon.

Remember that when it gets harder to make two universes fit together it just means you have to go a little bit further off the beaten trail.

I wonder when will we see the universe start to crack. The human world was not made to have a goddess be there very long it can cause a lot of trouble for Yggsdrasil. In the manga Yggsdrasil even went down for a bit and Belldandy's contract with Keiichi was effectively suspended. Having a goddess living there for over 15 years will make things a bit unstable.

 

[Wheeljack]

As far as Captain strength in, comparison to god, goes have you considered making them as powerful as your average god/goddess, but their power is cruder for a lack of a good word.

That's one of the ideas. That Captain level is more like 5th 6th class tier for the gods.

This could be what makes the Hogyoku so dangerous because when a Shinigami uses it it converts their power to Divine/Infernal and then you start to have gods/goddess running around without a checks or balance system, and it gives weight to Aizen as a threat.

I've been thinking about how to revise Hogyoku around in this universe to make it more of a problem for the gods, in that Urahara was tapping into higher powers that he shouldn't.

Also keep in mind that a lot of what I have been thinking of had come from before Kubo fully revealed how the Vaizards came to be and who they were. I haven't decided whether or not, or how to incorporate that yet. This is a AU after all.

Also I don't really like the thought of Ichigo going Vizard in this one, seeing as Belldandy is his mother I hardly think she's going to stand by and let him do that to his own soul, instead I like the thought of him slowly learning to tap into his Divine powers until the end of the story, which could go either way on this subject.

The way I do see it is that he's stuck with Hichigo. He's fused, cannot be separated once they joined after Urahara's test. It is a part of him. That he won't be around would be kind of cheating, I think. The challenge is of course not doing it in a way where he exists to save Ichigo's ass at the very last minute (and beyond) when he should by all rights be dead.

Remember that when it gets harder to make two universes fit together it just means you have to go a little bit further off the beaten trail.

I wonder when will we see the two universes start to crack.

I want to again mention that in this story, this particular universe that this takes place in, is one, not two. They have always been one universe. There is a reason for Soul Society. There is a reason for the Goddess Relief Hotline. THere is a reason for why the Shinigami and Hollows came to be. There is a reason for why things are tiered the way they are - as well as the problems by those who believe they are above it all.

The only change was one that should have been minute but will have a large ripple affect - Ichigo's unintended wish - and how it plays out for everyone else.


And lastly.... no word on what I had for a title?

 

[LORD_ARM]

And lastly....á no word on what I had for a title?

What about "Bleach White Angel" as a title.


ps.
change my other post a bit above.

 

[Ranma Uzumaki]

Blessings In Disguise is a good title name.

 

[Kale]

You wrong, they told her the reason she did not get to become 1st. class was because she is half demon.

Last time I checked, Urd lied to Belldandy with that reason.

IIRC she later attempts the test, passes, and refuses the promotion.

 

[Ghostface]

You wrong, they told her the reason she did not get to become 1st. class was because she is half demon.

Last time I checked, Urd lied to Belldandy with that reason.

IIRC she later attempts the test, passes, and refuses the promotion.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened.

 

[Tsuki_CB]

The way I do see it is that he's stuck with Hichigo. He's fused, cannot be separated once they joined after Urahara's test. It is a part of him. That he won't be around would be kind of cheating, I think. The challenge is of course not doing it in a way where he exists to save Ichigo's ass at the very last minute (and beyond) when he should by all rights be dead.

What I mean is do you really think she would let Kiske do that to him? Remember she is a Goddess 1st class so she would be one of the better choices in fixing his soul, after all if a God/Goddess can't fix your soul then your pretty screwed, and Ichigo knows what she is so I would think he would consult her first before going to the resident mad scientist.

 

[LORD_ARM]

The way I do see it is that he's stuck with Hichigo. He's fused, cannot be separated once they joined after Urahara's test. It is a part of him. That he won't be around would be kind of cheating, I think. The challenge is of course not doing it in a way where he exists to save Ichigo's ass at the very last minute (and beyond) when he should by all rights be dead.

What I mean is do you really think she would let Kiske do that to him? Remember she is a Goddess 1st class so she would be one of the better choices in fixing his soul, after all if a God/Goddess can't fix your soul then your pretty screwed, and Ichigo knows what she is so I would think he would consult her first before going to the resident mad scientist.

Its depend if what he what to do is legal even 1st class Goddess have to fallow the law.

 

[Tsuki_CB]

True, but it's not like she would be modifying his soul. If anything it would fall under the realm of healing since that's what it is.

 

[nick012000]

Also depends on if Ichigo even bothers to go up to her regarding the problem. He is a headstrong teenager, and I'll point out that Isshin knows and trusts Urahara. Odds are, Urahara would convince them to allow him to train Ichigo without mentioning exactly what would be involved.

I'd imagine she'd be quite pissed when she discovered it involved severing his chain of fate then tossing him down to the bottom of a pit until he either regained his Shinigami powers or became a Hollow. I'll also point out that Ichigo withstood a spell capable of completely annihilating his soul without so much as a scratch..

 

[LORD_ARM]

True, but it's not like she would be modifying his soul. If anything it would fall under the realm of healing since that's what it is.

yes but we don't even know if she even has the skills to do that. I think people are giving her a bit too much credit. The only job we know she had be for the wish was at the "Goddess Technical Helpline".

 

[GenocideHeart]

Actually, it is a Goddess's DUTY to fix anomalies like souls gone wrong. Although that technically would fall more in the realm of Skuld and Urd's duties, since such anomalies count as bugs in the system, and fixing those is specifically Skuld's, and to a lesser extent Urd's, duty. But Urd mentions that any of the three sister Goddesses can perform those duties, it's just Belldandy never had to because the other two are more skilled at that sort of stuff. Do remember this is the goddess who disassembled and reassembled an engine with a thought... without even looking at the blueprints.

Also, wishgranting is a job only the more powerful Goddesses can take, since they have to be able to theoretically grant ANY wish, even the most exotic and eccentric. By definition, wishgranting duty means she's just that powerful.

 

[nick012000]

Well, yeah, but Ichigo wouldn't know there's a problem until it's already too late, and he's too stubborn to go crying off to his mother to help. Look at how long it took him to take up the offer of training the Vizard made.

Cue lots of screaming once she finds out where Ichigo disappeared off to, and what he's training to do.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Well, yeah, but Ichigo wouldn't know there's a problem until it's already too late, and he's too stubborn to go crying off to his mother to help. Look at how long it took him to take up the offer of training the Vizard made.

Cue lots of screaming once she finds out where Ichigo disappeared off to, and what he's training to do.

So let me get this straight. You think an obvious mama's boy like this Ichigo would rather ask an untrustworthy, shady MAD SCIENTIST for help over his mom whom he's pretty much idolizing, and whom he knows at the very least has supernatural powers of a high enough level to warp reality?

Umm... yeah, not happening. Ichigo may lack many things, but one thing he tends to have is common sense. It just so happens he often disregards it in favor of fierce loyalty to his friends. But he has it - in fact, he along with Sado is probably the one with the most common sense in the crew. He was perfectly aware that going off to rescue Rukia was possibly suicidal, but did it anyway because otherwise he couldn't have lived with himself. Not because he didn't understand how serious the situation was - quite the opposite in fact.

 

[LORD_ARM]

So let me get this straight. You think an obvious mama's boy like this Ichigo would rather ask an untrustworthy, shady MAD SCIENTIST for help over his mom whom he's pretty much idolizing, and whom he knows at the very least has supernatural powers of a high enough level to warp reality?

The problem is that Ichigo doesn't see her as his mom. He has no memory of her being his mom. To him she is just a stranger he meet the other day.

Things will be harder for Belldandy because the Ichigo she raises is gone. He may look like her son, talks like him, even acts like him but he is not her son. This Ichigo is just as much of a stranger to her as he is her. I would if she knows this was going to happen when she was raising the other Ichigo.

 

[GenocideHeart]

The problem is that Ichigo doesn't see her as his mom. He has no memory of her being his mom. To him she is just a stranger he meet the other day.

Actually, he does have memories of her being his mom. That's the whole reason why he can't remain indifferent to her. Reread the chapters that are already out, if you would, please. Because obviously, somewhere along the line, you COMPLETELY MISSED that the memories he has of her being a loving mother are quite real and ALLLLLLLL still there, and he's even unconsciously acting on them.

Don't you love it when people talk without taking into account the previous chapters' setup? <_< -_-

 

[Mercsenary]

Huh on the topic of Belldandy getting taken for questioning A modification of a scene from Taken sprung to mind.

"We have your mother. Dont do anything. We will return her."

"I dont know who you are. I dont know what you want with my mother. But you must see, that I have a set of skills that will make you very... unhappy. Now you can let my mom go and this will never have happened but if you dont...

I will hunt you. I will find you.

And I will kill you."

" Good luck."


XD

 

[nick012000]

Well, yeah, but Ichigo wouldn't know there's a problem until it's already too late, and he's too stubborn to go crying off to his mother to help. Look at how long it took him to take up the offer of training the Vizard made.

Cue lots of screaming once she finds out where Ichigo disappeared off to, and what he's training to do.?

So let me get this straight. You think an obvious mama's boy like this Ichigo would rather ask an untrustworthy, shady MAD SCIENTIST for help over his mom whom he's pretty much idolizing, and whom he knows at the very least has supernatural powers of a high enough level to warp reality?

Yes. Ichigo may have common sense, but he's also got a lot of pride. Asking his mom for help requires admitting to her he fucked up. Him being a momma's boy just makes him actually admitting that all the more unlikely.

 

[GenocideHeart]

As someone who is a mama's boy myself, I assure you you've got the way we think all WRONG. Most mama's boys would rather seek parental help from their mothers than ask strangers - in no small part because they figure if their mother can't solve it, nobody else can. <_<

As a future note: 90% of Italians are 'mammoni' or mama's boys. We tend to heavily rely on and trust our mothers, as well as get very violent over perceived slights to our mothers' reputation. Insult an Italian, he'd probably just give you a cursory glance and walk away. Insult an Italian's mother, you are very likely to leave on a stretcher, if not in a coffin. So yeah, I know what I'm talking about when I'm thinking about mama's boys behavior. :sweat2:

 

[WizardOne]

As someone who is a mama's boy myself, I assure you you've got the way we think all WRONG. Most mama's boys would rather seek parental help from their mothers than ask strangers - in no small part because they figure if their mother can't solve it, nobody else can. <_<

As a future note: 90% of Italians are 'mammoni' or mama's boys. We tend to heavily rely on and trust our mothers, as well as get very violent over perceived slights to our mothers' reputation. Insult an Italian, he'd probably just give you a cursory glance and walk away. Insult an Italian's mother, you are very likely to leave on a stretcher, if not in a coffin. So yeah, I know what I'm talking about when I'm thinking about mama's boys behavior. :sweat2:

Your mom.

Hurr hurr.

 

[Deathsheadx]

i'm my mothers first born son and i'm definitely a momma's boy. i go to her 98% of the time.

 

[drakiss]

:flameon:

 

[Wheeljack]

Well, since this was bumped might as well give an update.

Chapter 4 is currently at 85% completion, 30+ pages in Word not including disclaimers, title, etc. Word count is currently:

I am currently having some problems on some parts that have ballooned bigger than what I originally envisioned, so I may end up trimming or rewrite the part I am at. These parts have given me the most trouble, as after this there are 3 more scenes to write before I can wrap this chapter up.

Best case scenario is perhaps this weekend I can wrap it up for beta if I have time, but that is the best case scenario... :sweat:

Hopefully nothing major will come up...

 

[007]

Why not just split the chapter in half?