Akamatsuverse 'Useless' facts from LH

runestar

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#26
Then again, popular belief isn't always accurate either. Chances are that most people just took the "Aunt Haruka" literally. Plus, seeing as to how the info has to ferreted out indirectly from multiple, scant sources, and it is only now that we are finding out about all these auxillary sources of information, when the books were released so long ago, it is possible that such info has simply been overlooked until now, or maybe nobody simply cared. -_-

I recall one fic where Kanako was revealed to be Haruka's illegitimate daughter....it's not entirely impossible altogether...seeing as to what has trangressed here... ;)
 

alansg

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#27
runestar said:
Then again, popular belief isn't always accurate either. Chances are that most people just took the "Aunt Haruka" literally. Plus, seeing as to how the info has to ferreted out indirectly from multiple, scant sources, and it is only now that we are finding out about all these auxillary sources of information, when the books were released so long ago, it is possible that such info has simply been overlooked until now, or maybe nobody simply cared. -_-

I recall one fic where Kanako was revealed to be Haruka's illegitimate daughter....it's not entirely impossible altogether...seeing as to what has trangressed here... ;)
I always believed that Haruka and Keitaro were cousins, but there was no proof to suport that statement. I mean, their relationship is not what you would expect from an aunt and her nephew, at least not in Japan. Also, I have some Japanese friends, and they say you can call obasan to any woman that is older that you by many years. You can, but you shouldn't, because is kinda rude to call somebody like that.

Add looking at the birthdays... Haruka was 12 when Kanako born...
 
#28
toraneko said:
Otohime Mutsumi
162, 94-58-88
Father, mother [Natsumi], 7 brothers and sisters
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1293/lhmmutsumiui9.jpg
Well, it's official. Mutsumi beats Kitsune in the bustline contest by 4cm!
Not only that, but apparently Tsuruko's got the same bust measurement as Kitsune but is a centimeter narrower around the hips and six centimeters narrower around the waist, which would probably make her *look* bustier than Kitsune.
 

lunaitc

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#29
I loved the "Panel-by-panel" disection of Ema and Keitaro's arrivals at the Hinata House and subsequent bath. I knew it was close, but seeing it side-by side, with the exact same positioning used blew my mind.

Also, finally clearing up the actual relationship between Keitaro and Haruka was very helpful.

Alright, Fanfiction writers, prepare to come up with a name and backstory for Kitsune's brother. Followed by the horribly unnecessary incest story.
 

EagleCeres

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#30
nuclear death frog said:
toraneko said:
Otohime Mutsumi
162, 94-58-88
Father, mother [Natsumi], 7 brothers and sisters
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1293/lhmmutsumiui9.jpg
Well, it's official. Mutsumi beats Kitsune in the bustline contest by 4cm!
Not only that, but apparently Tsuruko's got the same bust measurement as Kitsune but is a centimeter narrower around the hips and six centimeters narrower around the waist, which would probably make her *look* bustier than Kitsune.
dont forget Motoko... she grew up, and she grew up FINE! :p~
 

Terdwilicker

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#31
Considering Kitsune's character, I would have to assume her brother is much older and probably overly responsible. She rebelled against him and her folks, thus becoming a Temp worker and drunk. She's run away from her family, run away from responsibility, and rarely mentions them in the manga, ever.
 

Alzrius

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#32
nuclear death frog said:
Not only that, but apparently Tsuruko's got the same bust measurement as Kitsune but is a centimeter narrower around the hips and six centimeters narrower around the waist, which would probably make her *look* bustier than Kitsune.
You have to wonder, if Kitsune maybe drank a little less and exercised a little more, if she could then equal, or exceed, Tsuruko and maybe even Mutsumi in these measurements.
 

Legacy|iB

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#33
Well, these are simply wonderful.

Not much else to say about them. But still, Kitsune had a brother? That's a really interesting development. Is there any mention at all about her family during the manga? I want to plan for a later chapter that goes into Kitsune's character and history a bit more and any details I could find about her family would help quite a bit.

Can anybody translate those pages, or could point me in the direction to translations? My Japanese is a little...rusty...ah hell, I can't read Japanese. Help?
 
#34
Alzrius said:
nuclear death frog said:
Not only that, but apparently Tsuruko's got the same bust measurement as Kitsune but is a centimeter narrower around the hips and six centimeters narrower around the waist, which would probably make her *look* bustier than Kitsune.
You have to wonder, if Kitsune maybe drank a little less and exercised a little more, if she could then equal, or exceed, Tsuruko and maybe even Mutsumi in these measurements.
Yeah, maybe. But being a lazy drunk is a lot of what defines Kitsune as a character, so that hypothetical Kitsune isn't really the same character.
 

toraneko

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#35
nuclear death frog said:
toraneko said:
Otohime Mutsumi
162, 94-58-88
Father, mother [Natsumi], 7 brothers and sisters
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1293/lhmmutsumiui9.jpg
Well, it's official. Mutsumi beats Kitsune in the bustline contest by 4cm!
Not only that, but apparently Tsuruko's got the same bust measurement as Kitsune but is a centimeter narrower around the hips and six centimeters narrower around the waist, which would probably make her *look* bustier than Kitsune.
It probably would, were it not for the fact of Tsuruko being 16cm taller. Greater height diminishes the impact of three-size measurements, which is probably why height measurements are nearly always included with them in Japanese media.

I wonder if there's any way to discern cup size from those measurements. :p~

edit: Exercise may do more harm than good to Kitsune's measurements. Remember, a lot of the shape and size of the breast is due to fat. If she worked out more, her bustline would decrease.
 

Terdwilicker

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#36
Just found something interesting. Early on in Vol. 14, Motoko is talking to Naru. She says she won't try to steal Keitaro from her anymore, but she offers, almost offhand, to be his mistress instead. That was a bit surprising.

Also, I was a little surprised at Kitsune's real independence at moving out of the Hinata apartments for the Tea House. After all those passes she made at Keitaro, she seems to have fully given up once Naru got her big scene with him in Molmol in Vol 13.
 

Israfel

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#37
I wonder if there's any way to discern cup size from those measurements.

edit: Exercise may do more harm than good to Kitsune's measurements. Remember, a lot of the shape and size of the breast is due to fat. If she worked out more, her bustline would decrease.
Yeah it's true, a female friend of mine recently started working out to lose some fat and she called me up one day to complain because she'd dropped from a D-cup to a C, because of the fat she was burnign form her exercising. Why do you think anorexic girls have no breasts?
 

Alzrius

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#38
Terdwilicker said:
Just found something interesting. Early on in Vol. 14, Motoko is talking to Naru. She says she won't try to steal Keitaro from her anymore, but she offers, almost offhand, to be his mistress instead. That was a bit surprising.
Really??? Well damn, that's just tailor-made for fic goodness!

In regards to Kitsune's chest size, good point about Tsuruko's height. I wonder how Mutsumi compares in that regard. Also, my comment about exercise was in regards to keeping the rest of her trim so her breasts looked larger by comparison, but you're probably right in that she'd lose more than she'd gain.
 

alansg

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#39
Just to let you know, I found a torrent that have both LH Zero and Mugendai. I don't know if is against the rules to post the link. If it is OK, I'll just put it on the first post.

Anyway, I UPDATED the first post with a map of the town of Hinata AND a map of Hinatasou. An I'll be postin more information that I find interesting.
 
#40
Alzrius said:
In regards to Kitsune's chest size, good point about Tsuruko's height. I wonder how Mutsumi compares in that regard.
In metric
Mitsune (Kitsune): 164, 90-60-86
Mutsumi: 162, 94-58-88
Tsuruko: 180, 90-54-85

In English
Mitsune: ~5'4.5, 35.4-23.6-33.9 (round to 5'5, 35-24-34)
Mutsumi: ~5'3.8, 37-22.8-34.6 (round to 5'4, 37-23-35)
Tsuruko: ~5'10.9, 35.4-21.3-33.5 (round to 5'11, 35-21-33)


One inch is 2.54 centimeters, which was not approximated. Rounding followed standard approximation where necessary.

There.
 

alansg

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#41

Terdwilicker

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#42
Those are pretty interesting, actually. I enjoyed seeing the comparisons. I notice the rooms are actually kinda large. Bigger than I thought. Bigger than a studio apartment, if you remove the kitchen and bathroom anyway.
 

SimmyC

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#43
Yup. Pretty good rooms. At least, bigger than what I have always imagined before looking at them. :unsure: Could be useful in some of my current ongoing stories, and future ones. ^_^
 

toraneko

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#44
I've never seen a college student's room be this neat...
Likely a 12-tatami room. About the size of the average small apartment in the outskirts of Tokyo.

Movie studio equipment? Holy shit! She's a camwhore! :rofl:
...no, wait. She's related to Hasegawa Chisame. She has to be.
Same size room as Keitero.

Yeah, that's about as many stuffed animals as I expected. ^_^ Typical Japanese junior high-school girl's room.
Smaller than Keitaro's room; probably six tatami. Not the size of a small apartment, rather the normal size for a single room.
Looks like Shinobu is the only one with only a six-tatami room. Either she couldn't afford the larger space (doubtful, considering how much work she does around Hinata-sou), or she feels the larger space is oppressive. To a kid, too much space can be worse than too little - makes you feel small and alone.

Looks a lot like my sister's room, not counting all the alcohol. I hope those aren't the kind of liquors that need refrigeration; I'd hate to see what Japanese weather would do to unrefrigerated Bailey's.
Hmm. This room makes me think, "Art school dropout". Non-furniture objects used as furniture, music equipment out in the open... is that object on the cinderblock an amplifier or a mini-fridge? I'm leaning toward amp, but I'm not sure.

Same size as Kei's. Not as big as it seemed in the manga, and definitely not as big as the anime showed, but still, full-grown trees?! :wacko:
There is no way she's building her machines in an environment like that. She's gotta have a secret laboratory/fabrication area somewhere in Hinata-sou.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly the way I saw it in my mind. All but Spartan, Zen-inspired simplicity. It's more or less a meditation room, with a few small touches of personality.
I wonder why she put the o-yoroi in front of the divider? Hmm... Maybe it's something of a gargoyle; an idol placed to reassure her that it'll scare the monsters aware from the place where she sleeps. She's still not a grownup, and vestiges of old childhood fears yet remain.
She seems to have taken up the tatami over most of her room, except for a small meditation space. She likely practices in her room during especially bad weather.

Now that's more like your average college student. Judging by that comic panel at the top, this is what it's like after intense cleanup. What a slob. :snigger:
That's about as many books as are in my own collection, though I doubt as many of mine are textbooks and reference material. (Hell, I don't even have an encyclopedia that doesn't involve a computer.)
Now that I think about it, this looks more like a cramped study than a living space. :no:




Thanks again for the info!
 

alansg

Well-Known Member
#47
It's been two years already?

I finally found a translation of Love Hina Mugendai... in Portuguese. It's not that different to Spanish, so I can translate some details I found interesting. This might take a couple of days, but I'll finish the entire book. Well, not really, only new things.



Naru Narusegawa

LIKES/DISLIKE
Color: Red/Green
Sports: Bowling/Anything involving physical exertion
School subject: Math/Home economics
Season: Summer/Autumn
Clothes: Short skirt/Dotera(*)
Movies: Action/Erotic
Men: That have dreams and objectives/Irresponsibles
* = That big kimono used when itÆs cold.

Miscellaneous
-She is a middle school teacher
-Currently she has short hair.
-Hobbies: Teach something to others and create hairstyles
-Specialty: Bowling
-Philosophy: Be honest with herself [really?]
-Ring tone: ôHard to say IÆm sorryö (Chicago)
-Idol: Miss Sullivan (Hellen KelerÆs teacher)
-To improve her low esteem: to travel
-Her first student: Keitaro Urashima
-Her treasure: the ring Keitaro gave her after he returned from America
-According to Akamatsu, her antennas attract problems


Keitaro Urashima

LIKES/DISLIKES
Color: Black/Red
Sports: Bowling/Tennis
School subject: Archeology/Math
Season: Spring/Winter
Ruins: Todai /Turtle civ. in Pararakelse
Food: Japanese candy/ Lobster
Women: Naru/Grandma Hinata

Miscellaneous
-His parents store is named ôWagashi Urashimaö
-Haruka is her cousin
-He wears a crucifix like Naru
-Specialty: Make chocolates, bowling and dig holes.
-Ring tone: ôThe adventures of Luddo-kunö
-Dream: to become a great archaeologist
-Idol: Noriyasu Seta
-His treasure: the pictures taken with Naru


Haruka Urashima

LIKES/DISLIKES
Color: Black /Pink
Sports: Shooting/Voleibol
Clothes: Shoes/Short skirt
Season: Spring/Winter
Movies: Action/Fantasy

Miscellaneous
-Hobbies: Coffee blends
-Specialty: Hakkyou-ken
-Has a collection of kimonos
-Favorite place: Altar at Todai ruins
-She used to smoke 3 Marlboro each day
-After he got married, Kitsune and Mutsumi got her collection of kimonos
-She learned martial arts during her travels around the world with Seta, when they were young.
-Thanks to Keitaro being male, after her marriage, her name changed to Haruka Seta


Noriyasu Seta

LIKES/DISLIKES
Color: Black /Pink
Sports: Martial arts/Dance [since when dancing is a sport?]
Subject: Archeology/Politics and Economy
Season: Summer/Autumn
Movies: War/Romance

Miscellaneous
-Hobbies: Excavations
-Specialty: Jeet kune do
-ôWho does he love more, Haruka or SarahÆs mom?ö Akamatsu: ôHe loves both, lolö


Sarah McDougal

LIKES/DISLIKES
Color: Pink/Brown
Food: Hamburger/Natto(*)
School subject: Science/Music
Movies: American films/Terror
* = A candy made with beans.

Miscellaneous
-Hobbies: to play pranks to others
-Specialty: Jeet kune do, attacks using archaeological objects
-Weak point: the panda in her butt
-Person she respect the most: her mom
-She still wears the same kind of overalls... and just that. That means perpetual side boob. This way she torments youngsters around her without even trying.
-She goes to school in Molmol



This is what i got so far. Next is a very detailed time line. It might be ready for tonight.

EDIT: My format went to hell. Fixed it.

EDIT 2: Forget the time line. Every important date can be taken from the manga. If you want to know something specific, just ask.
 

alansg

Well-Known Member
#48
Something more:

POPULARITY RANKINGS

1 Shinobu Maehara (22517 votes)
2 Motoko Aoyama (21161)
3 Naru Narusegawa (20935)
4 Mutsumi Otohime (19544)
5 Kanako Urashima (14133)
6 Mitsune Konno (12096)
7 Kaolla Su (10402)
8 Tsuruko (7235)
9 Haruka Urashima (6858)
10 Nyamo Namo (6037)
11 Sarah McDougal (5236)
12 Ema Maeda (3829)


KISSES
Keitaro kissed (or was kissed) by the girls 22 times during the manga.

11 with Naru
4 with Mutsumi
3 with Motoko
2 with Kanako
1 with Kaolla and Shinobu.
IsnÆt it sad Kitsune?



More characters:

Mutsumi Otohime

LIKES/DISLIKES
Color: Red and white/-
Thing: Spring water/-
School subject : Music/-
Season: Winter/-
Animal: Spring turtle/-
Food: Watermelon, sake, gyuudon [?]/-
Men: Keitaro/-
In short, everything is good for her.

Miscelaneuos
-The name of her siblings: Tinami, Tsukumo, Nanami, Tamami, Agari, Kagari and Pokari
-She suffers from astigmatism
-Specialty: going into coma, speak with turtles
-Weak point: Sports
-Idol: Shisa (a god with the form of a lion, protector of Okinawa)
-Her treasures: Keitaro and Naru
-She studied Medicine
-Watermelons are the alpha and omega for her


Motoko Aoyama

LIKES/DISLIKES
Color: White/Gray
Clothes: Her kendo uniform/Feminine clothes
School subject : History and Japanese/Math
Season: Spring/-
Animal: Shipuu/Turtles
Food: Japanese/Fast food
Men: Keitaro/Weak men

Miscellaneous
-Her glasses are just for show
-Shippu is not a normal bird, itÆs a shikigami. His size change according to his masterÆs power.
-Weak point: if somebody breaths near her ears, ero stories [seriously?] and turtles.
-Rivals: Seta, Kanako and Tsuruko
-Dream job: University teacher, romance writer and lawyer.
-Idol: her sister
-Collections: weapons from around the world
-What she wants: more weapons
-What everybody has been waiting for: THE TRUE REASON SHE HATES TURTLES: Tsuruko said she moved to Hinata because Motoko found her and her husband when they were kissing. But the truth is that they were... being more intimate. Since that day, for her, a turtle looks like an erect p***s. [Woah...]


Tsuruko Aoyama

LIKES/DISLIKES
Color: White/Gray
Animal: Birds/-
Food: Kyoto traditional food/Fast food
Men: Men with strong character/Good for nothing men

Miscellaneous
-His husband works for a secret organization that hunts and slay demons. Her last name is not æAoyamaÆ. The real is a secret. [So yeah, he work for the Kansai Magic Association].
-The name of her new shikigami is Reppuu.
-Hobbies: Turn Motoko into a great swordswoman, make friends
-Specialty: swordsmanship and magic [Oh ho...]
-Number of undies: 0 [!?]
-Her mania: going into flashbacks


More to come.
 

kevinasher

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#49
alansg said:
Motoko Aoyama
-What everybody has been waiting for: THE TRUE REASON SHE HATES TURTLES: Tsuruko said she moved to Hinata because Motoko found her and her husband when they were kissing. But the truth is that they were... being more intimate. Since that day, for her, a turtle looks like an erect p***s. [Woah...]
Err... if thats the case, then she should not really fear turtles after the end of the series... I mean, she willfully writes novels that are as close to porn without being porn as possible... Motoko couldn't possibly be able to write publishable books like that if she was still afraid of turtles...
 

Ezit Meti

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#50
That's an interesting point. But then again, it depends on how traumatic that particular moment was for her. If she's created a connection in her mind between turtles and her walking in on that, then the only way she'll be able to properly recover is by directly confronting her fear.
 
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