Valkyrie Profile/Dresden Files XOver
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Yeah, actually I am. I've been totally stuck on getting anything but that cracky Fem!Zetsu and GoodBoy!Tobi fic written for Naruto, and I was trying to think of something that would be a better series for me to write for (or rather, a series that I would be able to maybe even finish a whole fic for 
)....and then I was thinking about Dresden Files.
And how it seems to mesh well with lots of stuff. And then (I just played VP2 a while ago) I got to thinking about Lezard and the time machine. And then....well, this.
Plus, I want to see Harry pulling Great Magic off with something like a Unicorn Horn staff.
"In my hand, the creator's sword..." :sisi:
)....and then I was thinking about Dresden Files.And how it seems to mesh well with lots of stuff. And then (I just played VP2 a while ago) I got to thinking about Lezard and the time machine. And then....well, this.
Plus, I want to see Harry pulling Great Magic off with something like a Unicorn Horn staff.
"In my hand, the creator's sword..." :sisi:
Bump.
If anyone is reading this, I'm a bit stuck. I can't decide whether or not to bring Molly along on this; it's likely I'll have to give her some form of attack magic to be able to handle what they're going to run into if she comes....but the problem with that is that the Council would likely pitch a fit if Dresden taught her anything blasty this early on. Though I might be able to get away with giving her an Aesir weapon (like one of the staffs, for instance)...hmm. Something to think about....
And the other option, leaving her behind, doesn't really seem to work either, because who would she stay with? Parents are out, because one, she already slipped into black magic under their watch once (so the Council would likely nix that) and two, Michael's got plenty to deal with already recovering from almost dying. And Thomas....Thomas is right out. Not only is he a vampire, I doubt Harry would want Molly around him for any lengthy period of time.
So....help? Any suggestions? I think, despite Lezard's stated goal being the Four Treasures, I'm going to make this a sort of hunt around the world for various Aesir artifacts. Stuff that Lezard has been researching for quite some time (no duh) and he finally convinced the Merlin would be worth looking into; in other words, he's been assigned to try and find some powerful artifacts to help balance out all the personnel the Council's lost because of the Black Council and the war with the Red Court.
And as far as Lezard goes...let's say at this point, he is from a timeline where he never succeeded in using the time machine (thus starting the sequence of events in VP2), and instead he researched ways to get into other worlds, where perhaps he would be more successful in gaining Lenneth.
The result being, in this case, he took over the body of the Dresden Earth's Lezard. Most likely very similar personalities, but the VP Lezard was able to do it because of the massive magical knowledge granted by his discovery of the VP universe's Philosopher's Stone.
His real goal in this Dresden universe, however, is to recreate the Sovereign's Rite, and then to reincarnate Lenneth. He only has theories (strong ones, but still theories) on how to accomplish this at this point, but he knows he needs at least one of the Four Treasures and more magical power than his current body has.
He doesn't necessarily want to destroy/create the world and truly become one with Lenneth at this point, though if she keeps denying him he might go nutso like in VP2. Basically, at this point he's hopeful that she'll be more receptive of his attention on this new world. He's still pretty much a nut, though. :sisi:
Edit: Also, a sort of summary of my ideas on what the Aesir are in the Dresden world-
In essence, the Aesir were a race similar to the Fae; ranging in power from the weakest of the Aesir not being much more than a perfect specimen of a human to Odin, the greatest of the Aesir. Like in VP, the Aesir have an upper limit to how powerful they can grow; while it's huge, it's still there. Odin, again like in VP, bypassed this by being a half-elf, with the longevity of an elf and the learning and growth capabilities of a human.
Ragnarok ocurred like in the myths; final climatic war between the Aesir and Loki's forces, at the end of which Odin destroyed everything that was left of both the Aesir and Loki's army (including Loki) with a suicidal attack with Gungnir.
The area where Yggdrasil was, and where the battle of Ragnarok occurred, now goes by the name of the Sahara Desert; Odin literally wiped almost all the Aesir and Loki off the earth (though there weren't many Aesir left by the time he did that).
The few Aesir that survived followed Odin's last orders; to scatter the Four Treasures and any other artifacts of power left across the Earth.
If anyone is reading this, I'm a bit stuck. I can't decide whether or not to bring Molly along on this; it's likely I'll have to give her some form of attack magic to be able to handle what they're going to run into if she comes....but the problem with that is that the Council would likely pitch a fit if Dresden taught her anything blasty this early on. Though I might be able to get away with giving her an Aesir weapon (like one of the staffs, for instance)...hmm. Something to think about....
And the other option, leaving her behind, doesn't really seem to work either, because who would she stay with? Parents are out, because one, she already slipped into black magic under their watch once (so the Council would likely nix that) and two, Michael's got plenty to deal with already recovering from almost dying. And Thomas....Thomas is right out. Not only is he a vampire, I doubt Harry would want Molly around him for any lengthy period of time.
So....help? Any suggestions? I think, despite Lezard's stated goal being the Four Treasures, I'm going to make this a sort of hunt around the world for various Aesir artifacts. Stuff that Lezard has been researching for quite some time (no duh
) and he finally convinced the Merlin would be worth looking into; in other words, he's been assigned to try and find some powerful artifacts to help balance out all the personnel the Council's lost because of the Black Council and the war with the Red Court.And as far as Lezard goes...let's say at this point, he is from a timeline where he never succeeded in using the time machine (thus starting the sequence of events in VP2), and instead he researched ways to get into other worlds, where perhaps he would be more successful in gaining Lenneth.
The result being, in this case, he took over the body of the Dresden Earth's Lezard. Most likely very similar personalities, but the VP Lezard was able to do it because of the massive magical knowledge granted by his discovery of the VP universe's Philosopher's Stone.
His real goal in this Dresden universe, however, is to recreate the Sovereign's Rite, and then to reincarnate Lenneth. He only has theories (strong ones, but still theories) on how to accomplish this at this point, but he knows he needs at least one of the Four Treasures and more magical power than his current body has.
He doesn't necessarily want to destroy/create the world and truly become one with Lenneth at this point, though if she keeps denying him he might go nutso like in VP2. Basically, at this point he's hopeful that she'll be more receptive of his attention on this new world. He's still pretty much a nut, though. :sisi:
Edit: Also, a sort of summary of my ideas on what the Aesir are in the Dresden world-
In essence, the Aesir were a race similar to the Fae; ranging in power from the weakest of the Aesir not being much more than a perfect specimen of a human to Odin, the greatest of the Aesir. Like in VP, the Aesir have an upper limit to how powerful they can grow; while it's huge, it's still there. Odin, again like in VP, bypassed this by being a half-elf, with the longevity of an elf and the learning and growth capabilities of a human.
Ragnarok ocurred like in the myths; final climatic war between the Aesir and Loki's forces, at the end of which Odin destroyed everything that was left of both the Aesir and Loki's army (including Loki) with a suicidal attack with Gungnir.
The area where Yggdrasil was, and where the battle of Ragnarok occurred, now goes by the name of the Sahara Desert; Odin literally wiped almost all the Aesir and Loki off the earth (though there weren't many Aesir left by the time he did that).
The few Aesir that survived followed Odin's last orders; to scatter the Four Treasures and any other artifacts of power left across the Earth.
Well, if Brahms is still around, he's actually a good choice to dump Molly with. Once he gives his word, he WILL keep it even if it isn't convenient for him.
Plus Brahms's castle isn't even in this dimension half the time.
The Tower of Lezard Valeth is also a relatively safe dumping spot. All the monsters there obey Lezard, and if he tells them to rip apart anyone who bothers the girl, they will do it, no questions. And they can be very convincing. :lol:
Plus Brahms's castle isn't even in this dimension half the time.
The Tower of Lezard Valeth is also a relatively safe dumping spot. All the monsters there obey Lezard, and if he tells them to rip apart anyone who bothers the girl, they will do it, no questions. And they can be very convincing. :lol:
Hey...I didn't even think of Brahms. Fufufufu...can you imagine the look on the Merlin's face when Harry send him the message that he's leaving Molly with the King of the Undead? :lol:
Hmm...let's see. Brahms actually fits into the Dresdenverse pretty well; let's say he's sort of the Master/Perfect Vampire, in that he doesn't really even need to feed anymore, and he's kind of a recluse even for the Courts. Who know he exists, and technically he could force them to obey him, but he doesn't usually bother with the rest of the world.
The question is, how could Lezard and Harry get him to agree to take care of Molly? I can see maybe Lezard convincing Brahms to go along with Lezard's plans for now, to get Silmeria back (basically, the souls of the Valkyries were displaced and have yet to reincarnate, due to Odin not being there to perform the Sovereign's Rite). But I doubt Lezard would want Harry to hear any of that yet; Valeth's not the type to reveal much to his erstwhile allies unless it profits him (well, or if he feels like it :sweat2.
Hmm...let's see. Brahms actually fits into the Dresdenverse pretty well; let's say he's sort of the Master/Perfect Vampire, in that he doesn't really even need to feed anymore, and he's kind of a recluse even for the Courts. Who know he exists, and technically he could force them to obey him, but he doesn't usually bother with the rest of the world.
The question is, how could Lezard and Harry get him to agree to take care of Molly? I can see maybe Lezard convincing Brahms to go along with Lezard's plans for now, to get Silmeria back (basically, the souls of the Valkyries were displaced and have yet to reincarnate, due to Odin not being there to perform the Sovereign's Rite). But I doubt Lezard would want Harry to hear any of that yet; Valeth's not the type to reveal much to his erstwhile allies unless it profits him (well, or if he feels like it :sweat2
.Hmm... in the original game, Brahms was forced to take Silmeria hostage to keep Odin off his back, but wasn't actually romantically involved with her. He just grew fond of her presence because she kept him company, and according to the databooks, Silmeria doesn't resent him for her captivity when all's said and done. She believes he did what had to be done.
(for the record, in the original timeline from VP, Brahms releases Silmeria after the A-Ending, and makes a deal with Lenneth that brings about peace between the living and the undead...)
In short, they are close friends. They understand each other and don't mind hanging around and exchanging stories.
One way to get him to agree would be if Molly reminds him of Silmeria. But the younger Valkyrie was not much like her, IIRC.
(for the record, in the original timeline from VP, Brahms releases Silmeria after the A-Ending, and makes a deal with Lenneth that brings about peace between the living and the undead...)
In short, they are close friends. They understand each other and don't mind hanging around and exchanging stories.
One way to get him to agree would be if Molly reminds him of Silmeria. But the younger Valkyrie was not much like her, IIRC.
Yeh, I know he wasn't really romantically involved with her. However, he's the Lord of the Undead...he can't have that many close friends, even in this kinda fusion of VP and Dresdenverse. It seems to me that taking care of a kid for a while (someone who he might like to talk to, at least; Molly seems like the sort of person Brahms might enjoy being around) in exchange for bringing back a close friend isn't that big of a price to pay. :huh.:
Well, it's not 100%, but there's talk about it over on the Jim Butcher boards. Here's a few relevant links:
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p...pic,7414.0.html
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p....html#msg296734
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p...5.html#msg55165
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p....html#msg193885
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p...opic,927.0.html
EDIT: Remember, Monoc is signed on to the Accords, and Marcone was the first human to sign them. Also one of the employees, Miss Gard, is supposedly a valkyrie.
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p...pic,7414.0.html
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p....html#msg296734
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p...5.html#msg55165
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p....html#msg193885
http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.p...opic,927.0.html
EDIT: Remember, Monoc is signed on to the Accords, and Marcone was the first human to sign them. Also one of the employees, Miss Gard, is supposedly a valkyrie.
Ah, okay, so it's just speculation and hints (though probably correct speculation) at this point, not canon. I was like, "Wait, what? I missed something about the Norse gods in a book somewhere?" :sweat2:
But...yeah. I really don't like trying to write buttloads of exposition (especially if I'll be writing this in Dresden Files style), because I personally think it ruins the story if half the thing is explaining the background, so you really should try playing through VP if you can. And VP2, if you've got a PS2. They've got a great story and gameplay (though 1 is better with the latter and worse with the former), and they're plain out fun. And Liam, Dresden Files is a good series, so you should check it out anyway. :sisi:
But...yeah. I really don't like trying to write buttloads of exposition (especially if I'll be writing this in Dresden Files style), because I personally think it ruins the story if half the thing is explaining the background, so you really should try playing through VP if you can. And VP2, if you've got a PS2. They've got a great story and gameplay (though 1 is better with the latter and worse with the former), and they're plain out fun. And Liam, Dresden Files is a good series, so you should check it out anyway. :sisi: