What if you were spared?

TheKinginRed

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#1
I've had this little idea wandering around in my head for about a week but what if you had been saved before your execution?

Tullius was there, what if, upon seeing someone only guilty of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, decides to spare them from death?

So, Tullius spares the Dragonborn and sends her(I'm going with a female Nord) with Hadvar into the keep to get her stuff and leave.

Then Alduin attacks, since your character isn't trying to run from execution she stays behind and helps Hadvar evacuate the civilians to Riverwood.

But something has been implanted in her mind, a respect for the Empire as generally reasonable people.

From here on it's mostly the adventures of Freyja (shout out for the win) in a written version of the main quest, with several chapters of side quests and generally doing things, especially fighting dragons and helping the Empire.


But after Alduin is defeated and the Empire quells the rebellion, then what? What does an experienced fighter/Dragonborn/Legate do afterwards? Well obviously it's time to bring the Empire back, the Thalmor are still out there and the world is still in peril from numerous other dangers.

Time to follow in Tiber Septim's footsteps and bring peace back to Cyrodiil.

Thoughts?
 
#2
An alright idea, but all the change really does is shift the balance of who the Dragonborn would be more likely to side with in favor of the Imperials instead of the Stormcloaks.
 

TheKinginRed

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#3
That's kind of the point.

After you've beaten the Main Quest and Civil War then what? In a figurative sense, every Elder Scrolls hero is more a wanderer than one to sit in one spot.

The point of this isto give her a deep respect for the Empire, that goes beyond just helping them in the Civil War and retiring later.

Really this whole thing is initially a pro-imperial novelization of the game, with small little divergences along the way.

But at the end is where it really diverges, because my plan is to restart the Blades and proceed in a sequel to start rebuilding the Empire.

So really this whole idea is a sort of prequel to set the stage, build charecterization and make connections.
 
#4
TheKinginRed said:
restart the Blades
Why the hell would you want to help those tossers?
 

TheKinginRed

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#5
Not Delphine or Esbern, I have every plan to tell them to get lost and leave restoring the Blades to me.


I'm referring the Blades of the Oblivion Era, the ones you could actually respect.

But of course, with a new era there are going to be changes, most importantly turning the Blades into an elite fighting force for the Empire, made up of warriors, mages, thieves, assassins and the like.

Roughly every follower who isn't a member of the Companions will be included as members.

When you finish the Civil War quest, your rank is Legate, the same as Rikke. I'm assuming the next rank up would be Commander, and lets face it, if the Dragonborn comes to you and asks to be promoted to Commander so she can restart an elite fighting force to combat the Thalmor, you'd let her.
 

Antimatter

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#7
If you are spared, it's because your on a mission from the gods.

Which means it's time for a Blues Brothers Parody fic set in skyrim.
 

TheKinginRed

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#8
So, I know the Dovahkiin would be Jake, but who would be Elwood, The Reverand, Curtis, and Ray?
 

atlas_hugged

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#9
novelization of the game
Boring. Everything else is fine, but skip this part. Why read what you can play? (especially with this game series, where a large majority of "what if-but still just a canon rehash" fics can be accomplished by simply modding in the relevant changes, or just playing as if they were there.
 

TheKinginRed

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#10
Please note the Edit: two or three posts above ucal.

Ive decided to start afterwards.
 

atlas_hugged

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#11
I don't see anything to indicate you were starting afterwards, but good.
 

atlas_hugged

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#13
And that doesn't indicate to me how you are changing your idea, so I stand by my point. But this is getting to be a silly digression.
 

TheKinginRed

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#14
Oh no, we could go a lot longer before it became silly.

But, we won't.....hopefully.


Anyways, yeah the general idea is to start after the MQ. That way, I can just fill in the extra detail with exposition in a few chapters.

The thing I'm working on right now is debating the advantages and disadvantages of exactly when it starts. Should it be right after Paarthurnaax leaves with the rest of dragonkind, or maybe a month or two afterwards?
 

atlas_hugged

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#15
I think you want to answer what happens to the dragons in your plot first:

If Paarthunax was telling the truth, then I would assume he's attempting to teach the other dragons the way of the voice. I can't really see that going over well with a lot of them, so you might be able to convince readers that some of them, perhaps Odhaving join the dovahkin's cause.

Or they just disappear forever. Your call.

Regardless, I think a good hook would be opening up right at the first confrontation between the Dovahkin's forces and the Thalmor.
 

TheKinginRed

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#16
Well, I'm operating this fic under the assumption that the civil war has not been finished and the Dovahkiin negotiated a temporary treaty.

Now with the dragon menace finished the Dovahkiin can join the legion and help them defeat the Stormcloaks, all the while dealing with Thalmor agents.

The part about some dragons joining Odahviing with the Dragonborn is good and I think I could incorporate it into the idea.

Right now, I'm also thinking of a way to fit in most of the followers so that they can be part of the new blades.
 

TheKinginRed

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#17
Afer thinking on the matter more, I believe I may have a thorough idea.

It starts right after the Main Quest, Paarthurnax has asserted himself as the new king of the dragons and plans to teach them the way of the voice.

However as Odahviing said, 'Not every Dovah is willing to substitute the lordship of Alduin for the tyranny of Paarthurnax.'

That said, there is a three way split, those who side with Paarthurnax, those who decide to go off on their own and a small group, Odahviing and five others, decides to join the Dovahkiin.

However its a tenuous hold at best, they serve the Dovahkiin because he/she is the strongest, and as long as he/she remains the strongest they will follow.

So, the Dovahkiin heads to Solitude first, time to officially join the Legion. Although, what do you do when a Nord rides in on a dragon, with five other dragons following and asks to join up.

If you say, 'Send them on minor errands before the big quests' then you got it wrong.

The state of the Civil War is tenuous, The Stormcloaks hold Markarth and the massive silver mines therein. With the amassed finances they've built a sizable force in Markarth and their main army from Windhelm is preparing to march on Riften with Ulfric leading the troops.

Tullius is in a bad position, he has troops in Riften but not nearly enough to hold off Ulfric, however he can't amass his own troops to reinforce them due to the army in Markarth. However with the help of the Dovahkiin and the allies said Dovahkiin has amassed, he has options.

So he sends the Dovahkiin to Riften where he/she has managed to bring as many allies as she could with her.

They include, the Companions, several mages from the College, and most of the followers.

The next few chapters would focus on the battle for Riften with the focus split between the Dovahkiin, Hadvar, and the followers.

After that is spoilers.

I want to focus on a young Dovahkiin, one who sort of reflects the state Tamriel, and the Empire, is in and who can and will rise above it. I don't want the angsty hero who whines about past tragedies all the time, nor do I want a pure hero who is upstanding, does the right thing and always wins in the end.

Thoughts, suggestions, concerns?
 

Sdebeli

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#19
The Eromancer said:
stomp-fest, boring. <_<
By now you've probably noticed that anything that involves a TES protagonist on one side and practically anything on the other is a curbstomp battle.
 

GenocideHeart

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#20
Sdebeli said:
The Eromancer said:
stomp-fest, boring.? <_<
By now you've probably noticed that anything that involves a TES protagonist on one side and practically anything on the other is a curbstomp battle.
Except when the other side is Sheogorath.

The way he just casually snapped his fingers and sent your Hero of Cyrodiil falling to his death from 10 kilometers up when you tried to get uppity and entertained the idea you could kill him on his home turf was just hilarious.

Then again, Sheogorath manages to be hideously broken even when he spends 99% of his time being insane.
 

Sdebeli

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#21
GenocideHeart said:
Sdebeli said:
The Eromancer said:
stomp-fest, boring.á <_<
By now you've probably noticed that anything that involves a TES protagonist on one side and practically anything on the other is a curbstomp battle.
Except when the other side is Sheogorath.

The way he just casually snapped his fingers and sent your Hero of Cyrodiil falling to his death from 10 kilometers up when you tried to get uppity and entertained the idea you could kill him on his home turf was just hilarious.

Then again, Sheogorath manages to be hideously broken even when he spends 99% of his time being insane.
He's the Daedric Prince of Mindfuckery. It's his job to be more broken than broken.
 

GenocideHeart

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#22
Sdebeli said:
GenocideHeart said:
Sdebeli said:
The Eromancer said:
stomp-fest, boring.á <_<
By now you've probably noticed that anything that involves a TES protagonist on one side and practically anything on the other is a curbstomp battle.
Except when the other side is Sheogorath.

The way he just casually snapped his fingers and sent your Hero of Cyrodiil falling to his death from 10 kilometers up when you tried to get uppity and entertained the idea you could kill him on his home turf was just hilarious.

Then again, Sheogorath manages to be hideously broken even when he spends 99% of his time being insane.
He's the Daedric Prince of Mindfuckery. It's his job to be more broken than broken.
I think it's more accurate to call him the Daedric Prince of 'I reject your reality and substitute my own'. :snigger:
 
#23
Sheogorath is what happens when Kefka gets laid for once.
 

Sdebeli

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#24
GenocideHeart said:
Sdebeli said:
GenocideHeart said:
Sdebeli said:
The Eromancer said:
stomp-fest, boring.á <_<
By now you've probably noticed that anything that involves a TES protagonist on one side and practically anything on the other is a curbstomp battle.
Except when the other side is Sheogorath.

The way he just casually snapped his fingers and sent your Hero of Cyrodiil falling to his death from 10 kilometers up when you tried to get uppity and entertained the idea you could kill him on his home turf was just hilarious.

Then again, Sheogorath manages to be hideously broken even when he spends 99% of his time being insane.
He's the Daedric Prince of Mindfuckery. It's his job to be more broken than broken.
I think it's more accurate to call him the Daedric Prince of 'I reject your reality and substitute my own'. :snigger:
Curse you GH, now I have the idea of 'Sheogorath, patron saint of Mythbusters' applied to TES running in my head. :headbanger:
 
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