Bleach What is On The Inside?

~NGD OMEGA~

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#1
Not the thread I was intending to make, but this has been nibbling at the back of my mind for a long while now and I figured might as well get a thread up about it.

Anyway the particular plot thread I'm mentioning was brought up twice during the arrancar arc, both times can be seen/referenced here: <a href='http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v39/c340/18.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v39/c340/18.html</a>

It was repeatedly implied that something had been done to Orihime during her capture that put her out of her friend's reach, but not only was this plot thread dropped like a sack of bricks among countless other plot points during the arrancar arc, but we never even got a real solid answer on just what this was.

Of course there are two very obvious answers that could be had here, and a third one as well that's essentially the 'cop out' answer 'Oh they're just talking about the mind games they were playing with her' which is effectively the plot answer at this point, but that's because the Arrancar arc was the shittiest point this series has ever fallen to.

Regardless, the first obvious answer of course is the source of countless inner Hollow Orihime images you can find scattered about, and the other is something that is quite honestly too serious for consideration. The point of this particular thread however is to throw a few more wrenches into the mix, getting a few more unorthodox answers to drastically shake things up and have a huge impact on the story depending how it goes past this point. Now obviously I wouldn't make this thread unless I had one potential answer myself, so here it is:



Remember this guy? Ichigo's random new hollow form that was completely different than his previous one in every way that seemed to come out of nowhere?

Well, there's a fairly popular theory going around that Orihime was actually the cause behind Ichigo's above transformation. This being because the dying Ichigo was actually inside her rejection sphere when Orihime was flipping out and begging Ichigo to save them when he was kinda dying at the moment. So the natural extension to the logic is that she literally willed Ichigo to be powerful enough to do so, which resulted in the form above.

Obviously however there's more to this. Orihime is quite literally capable of bringing the dead back to life, she actually did it this very arc with Menol and if given free reign no one could possibly stay dead so long as Orihime was still alive and willed them back. Aizen clearly would be aware of this fact so, let's just ignore the stupidity that was Deicide Aizen for a moment. Instead let's deal with the actually intelligent Aizen without plot hax who tries to twist the scenario to his advantage but doesn't actually have full control of everything.

That Aizen decides this can't be left to chance, so using either the original parameters of the orb that breaks down the barriers between Shinigami and Hollows or his own research into hollowification that's been repeatedly referenced that he was pursuing at this point, corrupts Orihime's ability to add a rather horrific twist to it. Oh she's still perfectly capable of bringing back the dead, but now it has the rather unfortunate side effect of also applying Hollowification on the target, to such an extent that it will rapidly boost existing hollow abilities or outright force them to become full on hybrids if no corruption previously existed.

So innocent Orihime who only naturally would attempt to heal anyone in need friends could end up doing Horrific damage to them in the process. Captains she tries to heal back to full strength suddenly start going on a berserk rampage as they turn Vizard, new kinds of hybrids could get created like a cross between a Quincy and a Hollow that Ishida would not be prepared for, Chad goes full on hollow up in this bitch, the whole shebang.

And while this alteration would cause complete devastation on the majority of the good side of this war, it also has the added bonus of having no negative impact on the Majority of Aizen's forces, them already being horrific hollow empowered monsters which Orihime making stronger would really only be a bonus. A simple change that causes his foes untold harm no matter which side she chooses on her own, and makes his foes greatest fallback plan a complete crap shoot.

Yeah, that'd make sense to me. More interesting than inner Hollow Orihime in terms of the long term plans at least. :sisi:
 

Knyght

The Collector
#3
I don't adhere to the theory itself but this is an interesting twist. But zeebee's got a point; right now there's a concept and the potential consequences but not a story. So where will this come into play? Who'll be the first victim and how quickly would the change happen? We just need a starting point really, or how previous events are build up for when her twisted effect of her power is revealed.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#4
Was intending the thread more as a idea based 'What could this plot thread have become type deal.' Wanted to see other peoples takes on it since the main one practically everyone roles with has gotten a bit stale so I figured asking the collective might bear more interesting results. Similar to my old Spare Time thread, hence I didn't exactly plot out anything past that point.

Though were I to go more in depth with this, it would start like most things do with Kenpachi. There was a rather brief bit before Starrk LOLBLITZED the hell out of everyone where he asked her to patch him up. Twist things around a bit so that she had just barely enough time to get started (Planting the seed as it were) and let thing's play off from there.

Naturally due to Kenpachi's own nature, the seed grows much more rapidly than it would normally, manifesting and starting to screw him over against Yammi. This naturally clues Mayuri in to something having gone horribly wrong at some point, but no idea what just yet.

And at that very same moment Orihime happens to be patching up Rukia, Renji, and Chad after having just finished with Ishida.

Mayhaps because messing with a berserk hollow empowered Kenpachi is freaking insane, the group decides to let him carve Yammi the hell up before he starts getting better ideas and try to follow Ichigo and Unohana to make any kind of effort at all in the ongoing battle in FKT. Mayuri stays behind naturally since he needs to know what in the holy hell is going on so he bunkers into Syzael's lab to see if he can find anything at all.

Meanwhile in Karakura Orhime is trying to patch up the fallen shinigami/vizards so they can make a final push against Aizen's remaining forces. (I'll leave what those may be at this current point up to the writer since things don't have to play out as per canon).

And as most stories go the precise moment when Mayuri finds Syzael's notes on what Aizen did to her, shit starts hitting the fan Karakura side. Partly because the Vizard's trigger much faster, and partly because exhaustion and heightened emotions advance the process even faster. Then Aizen plays his big reveal, thanks Orihime for her help, and is able to simply watch as the united force is now forced to fight each other as the poor hollowified patients turn on them. :ph43r:

Obviously Aizen still ultimately loses, possibly because Orihime realizes she has Halibel and Nell (And STARRK!) she could bring back to par to help the offensive, but a few will likely be lost in the process and unable to be ressed without risking the same thing happening. And those that do survive will now be partially hollowified and have to deal with the repercussions of that.

Don't know who other than Kenpachi would be interesting, other than Komamura. Forming a mask like his original one and the great things that would allow him to extend to his bankai intrigues me greatly. Komamura mastering heirro and using the Giant to fire a Cero anyone? :sisi:

Soifon with a more insect like form ala Mashiro also could work, though she could just as easily be a candidate to die and her Shikai is already absurdly hax even if the bankai is unwieldy. Would make for a decent fight premise however for one of the others to take down. Ukitake needing to be put down by Shunsui could be an interesting battle development. Though if he's a survivor it might finally fix his lungs so he gets something out of the deal. :sisi:

Suppose the rest of the list is a bit more tricky, I want to avoid the obvious ones like Hitsugaya or Byakuya since they'd be the first picks usually to turn vizard and spreed it around more those that need it or could be exploited for plot.

Yamamoto would be seemingly out of the question however, unless he barely gains control after being knocked around a bit and then suicides to take Aizen out personally. Depends where you want to go with it.

Well regardless lets me break out this old image again:

 

zeebee1

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#5
Zaraki's Hollow power removes his subconscious limiters. Unohana, having had all of her work undone without being killed in a pointless battle, dies of emo.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#6
:snigger:

She thought she was the only one who could make him truly happy but, alas, Orihime did it first.

Loly and Menoly might have place here if their abilities start going out of whack. It would backfire on Orihime horribly if she boosted their power when the former is so freaking obsessed with her. Perhaps Grimmjow too but I can't remember if she ever healed him after that time with his arm and tattoo. If she did then she could have potentially screwed over Ichigo if Grimmhow's stronger than before.

This would probably also be a boon for the other Vizards since they'd end up with more power in the long run. In short run they're probably gonna go an rampage though they could handle it better.


I had the idea once that something like this could happen a lot earlier - not sure if I've mentioned it before. It wouldn't be Orihime but I though it'd be interesting if Aizen and co had set up a trap during the escape from SS which started the hollowfication process in everyone. Similar to how the vizards started hollowfying once they all entered the crime scene. Maybe using a bunch failed Hogyoku prototypes that are set up all over and get overloaded or something, turning the entire realm into a warzone as everyone with a drops of spiritual energy starts going hollow. Mostly inspired by the one-shot in the previes sections.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#7
She did actually, though it was only to heal his arm from Ulquiorra's cero, per Ichigo's request. Though sometimes that tiny seed is just enough in cases. :snigger:

Of equal interest is the effect this would have on Nel, Dondo and Pesche if she manages to fully restore/improve them. Since they were grievously damaged by the forced removal of their masks and we've never actually seen their resses, this could make them quite the force to be reckoned with with their teamwork training.
 

zeebee1

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#8
At the very least Nel would be at full power. She might become more powerful than Starrk.
 

nick012000

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#9
~NGD OMEGA~ said:
Well regardless lets me break out this old image again:

I'm pretty sure that Unohana and Yamamoto's Hollow Masks would be skulls, given what we've learned about them recently. Soi-fong's would probably be wasp- or bee-like, given her Zanpakuto. Komamura's would probably be some sort of oni, or like one of the masks on the helmets of the samurai.
 
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