You are called on to Create a Technomage Guild

Prince Charon

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#1
Moved from the TV Shows Talk forum. Hopefully, it'll fit better here.

Note that Back Home-verse Technomages are B5 Technomages, even if a lot of them don't dress like it.

A bored Alien Space Bat decides that our Earth needs a Technomage Guild, and chooses you to start it (unless you're the sort of person who would hoard the power for him/her self, and not create a Guild, or you're to evil/amoral to work with even the relatively pragmatic Back Home-verse Senshi) (EDIT: he makes you an offer, he doesn't just grab you and dump you). You are taken to the Earth of Warringer's Back Home universe (a fanfic universe I highly recommend), specifically the Minako Aino and the Secret Society AU, some time after 2027. There, you are introduced to the Sailor Senshi, one of whom you will be apprenticed to. (For more information on the Sailor Senshi (if you don't want to take the time to read a rather long fanfic), start here, and adjust the given personalities for greater maturity, pragmatism, and intelligence.) Depending on how much the Senshi like, trust, and respect you, you will reach at least rank 8 (High Technomage), and may be allowed to reach rank 10 (High Arch Technomage).

After that, you will be returned to the place and time you were picked up from, with your equipment, which will at least include a Black Arrow fighter:

Here is my take on the Technomage ships.

"Black Arrow" Technomage ship

Length: 40 metres

Width: 25 metres

Depth: 10 metres

Power/Propulsion:

á á á á á á Gravitic Fusion

á á á á á á Magneto-Gravetic drive

á á á á á á Slipstream Drive

Weapons: Unknown

Defence:

á á á á á á Regenerative armour

á á á á á á QIII shield

Additional Equipment:

á á á á á á Tesseract Generator

á á á á á á ECM/ECCM Equipment

Looking like matte black paper darts, the Black Arrow is the distinctive vessel of a Technomage.á First spotted in Terran space in May 2009 when representatives of the various Technomage guilds in the galaxy visited T.I.T. to audit their post-Doctorate Technomancy course, the Senshi produce 3-4 of the vessels every year on an as necessary basis.á Not all Full Technomages on Terra want an ship.

Very little is definitively known about these ships, but the following is all confirmed information.

á á * Black Arrows are very stealthy.á This is due to its construction and standard ECM/ECCM load out.
á á * Each Black Arrow mounts a Tesseract generator, as the inside is larger than the outside.á This helps it fulfil its purpose as a flying home for the Technomage, able to provide nearly everything the Technomage needs.
á á * Technomages and their ships share a bond comparable with the bonds Jurrain Space Trees have with their commanders.á This bond allows the Technomage to use the ship as a focus for their abilities.á As no Technomage ever encountered in combat (seven confirmed records other than the Senshi) has ever used the same attacks as another, the weapons available on a Black Arrow are unknown.
á á * HMS Hood confirmed that Black Arrows use Gravitic Fusion as a power source and have Magneto-Gravitic and Slipstream drives when a Technomage returned two survivors of a mysterious attack on INS Tabar in June 2011.

As the Technomage Guilds have maintained a mostly neutral stance in the galactic political and military arenas, GDI standing orders are to maintain a polite and helpful stance towards the Technomage Guilds, and to learn what they can without upsetting them.
Copied from the Technomage essay thread on Warringer's old forum.

There's also an alternate version, by Reikson.

If you want to be a High Arch Technomage, you must pass the Senshi Challenge. Of course, if your morality isn't compatible enough with that of the Senshi, you won't be allowed to try.

As for what a Wonder is, AFAICT, its an invention that is very impressive, on a grand scale, though not necessarily of a grand size. Bikinis that dissolve in water wouldn't qualify, for example. A chainmail bikini that had the capabilities of Iron Man's armour (not just the Mark I armour - the 'classic' armour, such as the Mark V and later. Possibly even the Hulkbuster armour), would - and some of the Senshi would wear them, even if just for the amusement value.


So, would you be selected at all?

Which Senshi would you be apprenticed to?

How high would your rank be, when you are sent home?

If you take the Senshi Challenge, what Wonder would you create, and would you take it with you, or leave it there?

What else would you bring home?

Once you get home, what will you do, and in what order?


I'll give my answers in a later post.
 

GenocideHeart

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#2
Am I allowed to say 'screw it' to apprenticeship to a Senshi and just become Urza Planeswalker's apprentice? You don't get any more technomage-y than him... :snigger:
 

Prince Charon

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#3
GenocideHeart said:
Am I allowed to say 'screw it' to apprenticeship to a Senshi and just become Urza Planeswalker's apprentice? You don't get any more technomage-y than him... :snigger:
I have no idea who that is. Is he mentioned at all in 'Back Home'?
 

Luthorne

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#4
Prince Charon said:
GenocideHeart said:
Am I allowed to say 'screw it' to apprenticeship to a Senshi and just become Urza Planeswalker's apprentice? You don't get any more technomage-y than him...á :snigger:
I have no idea who that is. Is he mentioned at all in 'Back Home'?
I have absolutely no idea what 'Back Home' might be, other than the universe you seem to be drawing from, but Urza is from Magic the Gathering.

Wikipedia Article

Edit: And in regards to the initial post, I wouldn't be chosen, because I have little to no interest in starting any kind of organization, and if given advanced supernatural powers that work in tandem with technology, would probably retreat to a pocket dimension or something along those lines and mess around with my powers, popping out every now and then to get the latest manga, books, and video games. Ergo, the whole issue is moot.
 

Prince Charon

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#5
OK, since some posters seem to not be following the links, let me point something out: in Babylon 5, and in Back Home, Technomages are people who use Clarke's third law: 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.'

Of course, in B5, a soul is an energy field that can be caught and contained by machines, much like the ghosts in the Ghostbusters-verse, so the Technomages are really indistinguishable.

High-end Technomage feats include things like the Spell of Destruction, which the B5 wiki Technomage entry describes thus: "Galen can collapse parts of the universe into smaller universes, destroying them completely. " Think about it.

"We are dreamers, shapers, singers, and makers. We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, crystal and scanner, holographic demons and invocations of equations. These are the tools we employ, and we know many things."
- Elric

To answer Genocide Heart's question, no, you get dumped into the Back Home-verse, not the MtG-verse. You could, perhaps, get apprenticed to a BH-verse version of Urza, if you really want to. You'll meet the Senshi first, though.
 

Luthorne

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#6
Doesn't really change the fact that I dislike being in charge of things, overseeing other people, running any sort of organization, being put in positions of authority, and, frankly, just don't really care to interact with people too much. I'd be much more interested in exploring the limits of what could and couldn't be done, trying to invent new things, that sort of thing. I'm not a leader of any sort, wouldn't have the patience for it, especially not when I could be doing something that I would view as actually being interesting. Ergo, I would not be chosen. Simple as that.

...and I have no particular interest in Babylon 5, nor does this fic sound particularly interesting to me, so I have no real desire to click any of the mentioned links.
 

Mercsenary

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#7
Little to no interest in starting a guild. So I guess that rules me out.

" I have no desire or wish to run a bureaucracy or a 'guild'. If you insist, I will take the training and run. And Run. AND RUN. To be pushed into this is tantamount to slavery. Are you slavers? Pray you are not. If you are... run. Flee to the far ends of the universe because I will find you. And I will find the ones that told you to do this. And I will take them. Bring them to you. And let them watch as I bleed your life blood in to the gutters where you belong. So tell me, tell me again why I should do this?"
 

Shaderic

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#8
I'm not much of a leader, I admit. But, if for whatever reason I'm put in charge of this, I'll try and deal with it for a little while. If I can handle it, I make due until I have my pick of willing succesors, and pass the mess onto them. If I can't, I begin to spread out leadership to different sections, granting them more autonomy. Sure, I lose control, but they can probably manage their own affairs better than I could.

In my spare time, I work on inventing an internet time viewer so I can go look up the completed works of Fosfor.

Of course, this is just from skimming.

EDIT: Well, now.
This looks interesting. I'll get back to you about this.
 

GhostElder

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#9
So, would you be selected at all?

Well they only said I had to create it, they didn't necessarily say that I had to stick around and run the thing, or how involved I had to be once it get's going...

Which Senshi would you be apprenticed to?

I'm guessing which one's free and wants to take on an apprentice like me. I kind of doubt it's my decision.

How high would your rank be, when you are sent home?

I think I'd try for High Arch Tehnomage if I can.

If you take the Senshi Challenge, what Wonder would you create, and would you take it with you, or leave it there?

As to the wonder. My initial thought is perhaps a green lantern ring, the ability to harness will power as an energy. Or something to aid in healing people. I'd take either the ring or the healing device with me when I leave.

What else would you bring home?

A copy of the standard rules things to make sure other technomages can police themselves.

Once you get home, what will you do, and in what order?
 

Prince Charon

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#10
Mercsenary said:
Little to no interest in starting a guild. So I guess that rules me out.

" I have no desire or wish to run a bureaucracy or a 'guild'. If you insist, I will take the training and run. And Run. AND RUN. To be pushed into this is tantamount to slavery.
You're not being pushed into it, you're being offered an opportunity. If you don't want to do the whole thing, the ASB will withdraw the offer, and look for someone else. I'm sorry that wasn't obvious.
 

Prince Charon

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#11
My answers:

So, would you be selected at all?
Yes. I'm reasonably moral, and should be able to get along with the Back Home-verse Senshi.

Which Senshi would you be apprenticed to?
Possibly Venus (we're both big Dr. Who-fans), although Mercury or Saturn would also be interesting.

How high would your rank be, when you are sent home?
9 or 10.

If you take the Senshi Challenge, what Wonder would you create, and would you take it with you, or leave it there?
A true TARDIS: Time And Relative Dimension In Space (since its not a suggestion for canon Back Home-verse, I can do that; in canon, though, time travel is by Warringer's fiat ONLY). Probably a War TARDIS.

Yes, I'd bring her home with me.

What else would you bring home?
A set of database satellites and upgraded Eye of the Beholder sats, and I'll ask Seneca for one of their children, to run them, and help our internet awaken. The TARDIS will have a large database, separate from the public database-sats. Also, any items I've bought for myself while there, and anything the Senshi want me to bring. Mostly, I'd rely on my TARDIS's internal manufacturing systems.

Once you get home, what will you do, and in what order?
I'll start by scanning the Sol System for alien artifacts, and seeding the area with the Beholders. Depending on what I find, I'll either be recruiting for the Guild secretly, semi-secretly, or openly. (E.G., if the more paranoid UFO nuts are right, and the various governments are highly infiltrated, I'll have to hold off on releasing the public database satellites, and secretly recruit people for the Guild. That's not the scenario I'll go with, for this thread, but its something I'd plan for, just in case.)


OK, here's a start at describing my Wonder, subject to later changes:

Time And Relative Dimension In Space class Technomage vessel

Class: TARDIS

Type: Technomage Time Vortex ship

Designation: SDN-LC/SV

Size: Varies, the following is the most common arrangement:
Height: 2.1 Metres
Width: 1.1 Metre
Depth: 1.1 Metre

Mass: External: Varies
Internal: 33 Million Tonnes

Acceleration: As Atlas-class

Crew: 1

Supplementary Craft:

* 1*Highly modified Edwardian roadster, 'Bessie'
* 72*Black Arrow fighters
* Various other small craft

Power:

* 1*SenshiWorks-Pluto Baby Universe Generator Mk. Ib "Eye of Harmony"
* 1*Zero Point Energy system
* 1*Quantum Slipstream Flux Tap
* 2*Total Conversion reactors
* 10*Gravitic Fusion reactors

Propulsion:

* Gravity wave drive
* Phasic Slipstream Drivesystem
* SenshiWorks-Venus Teraport Drive
* Space/Time Vortex Driver

Weapons:

* Omni-directional Field Focused Quantum Singularity Discharge Cannon.
* 1*Omni-directional Stun Field
* 1*De-mat Gun, "Wrath of Rose" variant
* 1*'Hand of Omega' Remote Stellar Manipulator
* 2*Accelerated Antimatter Particle Beams
* 3*Jump Bombs
* 4*'Solar Core' Fusion Plasma Concussion Turrets
* 1000*SenshiWorks VDA-capable terapedoes, with various warheads (See below)

Defences:

* Regenerative Armour
* Multi-layered Quantum Shielding (as Atlas-class)
* Point defence Lasers
* Field Focused Intercepter Grid Mk IVb
* Multi-Layer Energy Web Mk IIIb
* SenshiWorks-Saturn Teraport Interdiction Field
* Tesseract Generator
* ECM/ECCM Equipment
* Spatial Camouflage Field
* Perception Filter


Warhead types:

SenshiWorks-Saturn 'Genesis Devices'
SenshiWorks-Pluto Time weapons
Technomage Spell of Destruction devices
Variable-yield matter/anti-matter munitions

History

The TARDIS (Time And Relative Dimension In Space) began her existance on a Technomage computer, as the plans for a stock Atlas-class Technomage Citadel Ship. Of course, no Technomage would ever build a 'stock' vessel for their own use, and the TARDIS is no exception. Indeed, she is so heavily modified, that by the time construction of her physical from began, she could no longer be counted as an Atlas.

First, nearly the entire volume of the vessel is normally contained within several tesseracts, leaving only a little over two cubic metres in normal space. This external form, called the 'outer plasmic shell', is capable of a wide variety of appearances, but mostly resembles a mid-20th century British Police Box, with a St. Andrew's Hospital Medal on one door. The exotic materials that the shell is made from make it surprisingly durable for such a small object. In addition, destruction of the outer plasmic shell will normally do little or no damage to the vessel, herself, although she will need to deploy a new shell, or some portion of her main body, to reconnect with normal space.

Upon entering the TARDIS, the first room encountered is usually the console room. This room is generally laid out like the console room (scroll down) used in the first few seasons of Doctor Who, back in the 1960s, but the walls are wooden, like those from the console room used in Season 14, and the scanner is larger, and mounted on a large disc, in imitation of early electro-mechanical televisions. Likewise, while the console has the same dimensions as the classic model, it is made mainly of wood, brass, chrome, and crystal, giving it a 'Steampunk' look - though not the same look as seen in the TV movie. The central column of the console is based on that of the classic series, as well, being short and fully mobile, rather than connecting the console to the ceiling, and contains three spark-gap Jacob's ladders, as well as several fancy hour-glasses of various sizes.

The rest of the interior uses a variety of decorating themes, whether wood, white plastic, stone, or metal, with most walls having the ubiquitous roundels. Some of the roundels are lit, others are storage lockers, or viewscreens/commscreens, or cover control panels, or important systems. Quite a few are just for decoration, though.

I might expand the description, later.

As for the Genesis Device, the Hand of Omega, with good enough luck, I'll never have to use them as weapons, but I'm not expecting the universe to always be that nice. Likewise the Jump Bombs and the De-Mat Gun.
 

Shaderic

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That's some heavy hardware.
Glad I have time to do research and read this fic, since it seems pretty interesting.
Shame the classes are canceled on account of the flood.
In other news, I hate mud and sandbagging.
 

Prince Charon

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#13
Shaderic said:
That's some heavy hardware.
Yes it is. Better to have and not need, than need and not have, no?

Shaderic said:
Glad I have time to do research and read this fic, since it seems pretty interesting.
Shame the classes are canceled on account of the flood.
In other news, I hate mud and sandbagging.
Sorry to hear that. Good luck.
 

Shaderic

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#14
Meh, not much else I can do except feel guilty about not doing more.
Campus has been evacuated, and I write this from my aunt's house. Later this weekend I'm heading back home, since classes have been cancelec all next week too, but I'm a bit worried. When classes start up again, we're going to have two weeks to make up.

Plus, the timing is just weird. I mean, having classes canceled right after spring break ends was kinda nice ('Cool, an extension'), but the reason was so that students could go help sandbag (wich I did. Left me bone-tired every day this week). Flood waters are above 41 feet right now, and are supposed to go up to 43. Glad I lived on the third floor at the dorms.

Ah, but enough about me.

Lessee here...

If I understand the concept right, and can play ball with dimensional theory (1minute here= ten years there), I'd probably put at least a little work into an earthmover technique. It'd only take some clever localized gravitic manipulation to re-arrange the earth surrounding the riverbeds into good dike. It'd do alot for my peace of mind. Seriously, on wednesday I was working near the river, and the water was almost overflowing the dike that was about twice as tall as I was. Some compression and raising, would definetely be useful.
 

GenocideHeart

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#15
Eh, I'm not the Guild-y type. I wouldn't be interested in creating a guild, since any powers I received, I'd use for furthering my own interests. So yeah, I'd pass.

It doesn't help that I'm not a people person.
 

Prince Charon

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#16
Just an FYI, I've updated the OP with some new links. The section that's been changed is quoted below.
Copied from the Technomage essay thread on Warringer's old forum.

There's also an alternate version, by Reikson.

If you want to be a High Arch Technomage, you must pass the Senshi Challenge.á Of course, if your morality isn't compatible enough with that of the Senshi, you won't be allowed to try.
The new link for the Senshi Challenge is pretty useful, as it has more examples of possible Wonders.
 
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