Harry Potter Altered Weasleys

Duraiken

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#1
If there's already a topic for this then I'll ask for this to be to deleted and then add it to the existing topic. Anyway, I've seen a few ideas that change Ron in one way or another, most notably the thread by AJT where Ron decides to become Magical Director and all the insanity that can entail. But I've got some potentially more... serious (not Sirius, feh :p , ) ideas in mind.

First, what if Ginny, or maybe another Weasley, had been bitten by a werewolf before Hogwarts? If Ginny is the one bitten, I could see Ron and some, maybe all, of the other Weasleys, being much more protective of each other, especially Ginny, and their other friends but also more suspicious and/or critical of everyone around them except family. Such an incident in their past would probably make the Weasleys as a whole more wary of those around them, among other things. What about Bill or Charlie? They'd be gone by the time Harry went to Hogwarts, if they were even able to go to Hogwarts, but it likely would have left its mark on the family as a whole.

Another idea I had was to alter some of the eldest's choices. Like what effect would it have had on the Weasley clan if Charlie had gone into Professional Quidditch? Or if Bill was a fugitive, not necessarily for being a Death Eater; maybe he went to work for the Goblins and injured one and the wizarding world turned him over to Gringrotts to prevent another Goblin War. Or if Molly had gotten a job, maybe make baked food from home and sold at the local market? Or if the family had their own farm? Not too sure about some of the others.

Or what if one of the Weasley kids, or maybe one of the parents, had died sometime before Harry became aware of the wizarding world, maybe by a few years? What would it be like if Fred or George died sometime before or during Hogwarts?

What if you switched the genders of the Weasley kids, so that instead of six boys and one girl you've got six girls and one boy?

Just some assorted ideas I've had for a different assortment of Weasleys. Consider them as you will, their up for grabs as I'm not sure I've got much use for them.
 

wingthesword

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#2
I'd like to see world where there were no Weasleys.

How would Harry get onto the right platform?
Would Harry have been friends with Draco?
What house would Harry have been in?
Would Hermione have ever been in danger of dying by troll club without Ron around?
Would Harry have befriended Hermione?
Would Harry have friends or be a loner?
Who would his friends be?
Would Harry still have found out about the stone?
What would he have done?
Would he have still joined the Quidditch team?
 

Prince Charon

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#3
wingthesword said:
I'd like to see world where there were no Weasleys.

How would Harry get onto the right platform?
Dumbldore would have sent another minion (its rather unlikely that Molly would say what she did, the way she did, if she hadn't wanted to attract attention).

wingthesword said:
Would Harry have been friends with Draco?
Probably not, Draco made a bad first impression in Madame Malkin's.

wingthesword said:
What house would Harry have been in?
Difficult to say, but probably still Gryffindor, unless the minion D. arranges to be his friend espouses another House. Harry had wanted to follow his parents, at least a little.

wingthesword said:
Would Hermione have ever been in danger of dying by troll club without Ron around?
Unlikely.

wingthesword said:
Would Harry have befriended Hermione?
Maybe, difficult to say.

wingthesword said:
Would Harry have friends or be a loner?
He'd at least have one of Bumblebee's minions.

wingthesword said:
Who would his friends be?
Not sure, really.

wingthesword said:
Would Harry still have found out about the stone?
Yes, its painfully obvious that D. wanted Harry to know about it. Its to contrived, otherwise.

wingthesword said:
What would he have done?
Something very similar, though he might have needed to use the brooms from the room full of keys to fly over the giant chess set.

wingthesword said:
Would he have still joined the Quidditch team?
Quite possibly, though if he were already friends with Neville, it becomes much more likely. If nothing else, he'd have done something else impressive during flying lessons, and be encouraged to try out in his second year.
 

zerohour

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#4
Prince Charon said:
wingthesword said:
Would Hermione have ever been in danger of dying by troll club without Ron around?
Unlikely.
But still possible. Ron's comment was merely the straw that broke the camel's back. It would be well within the realm of possibility. I could easily see something else pushing her into crying in the bathroom on that day. Some of the girls giggling in her direction, someone calling her a know-it-all, or something similar. Of course, without Harry there to witness it, it would most likely end with her gruesome death.

wingthesword said:
Would Harry have befriended Hermione?
Maybe, difficult to say.
Without Ron in the compartment, I could see Harry going to help Hermione and Neville find Trevor. That could easily have been a chance to form a friendship between them.

What would he have done?
Something very similar, though he might have needed to use the brooms from the room full of keys to fly over the giant chess set.
I never had that much faith in Ron's chess abilities. The fact that he didn't make one of the the King piece shows a critical failure of chess knowledge. Coupled with the fact that the only people we've seen him play are those without any know how of chess (As far as I know, I could be wrong,) Ron just doesn't impress me. Who else besides Harry have we seen him play?
 

Duraiken

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#5
All right right then. Hmmm... What if it were five Weasley boys and one Weasley girl? Ron was a) never born, b) stillborn, c) died early?

Or what if you switched the ages around a bit? If you go in reverse order, making Ginny the oldest and Bill the Youngest with Charlie the one in Harry's year...? You keep their interests and personalities relatively the same, factoring in how being older or younger than they were when we met each of them in canon would change them when we meet each them in the altered-verse, and then let the chips fall where they will.

Or what if you gave one of them a mental or physical handicap? Percy the one-handed Weasley? Maybe one or both of the twins is autistic (though both of them being mentally handicapped somehow would explain so very much...) Ron has a phobia that makes afraid being among a large amount of people or people doesn't know instead of spiders. Or maybe Ginny crippled herself, injuring her leg(s) in one of her late night flights on her brothers' brooms in such a way that she'll never make full use of her legs.

Just some ideas, let me know what you think.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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#6
Prince Charon said:
wingthesword said:
I'd like to see world where there were no Weasleys.

How would Harry get onto the right platform?
Dumbldore would have sent another minion (its rather unlikely that Molly would say what she did, the way she did, if she hadn't wanted to attract attention).
I have a theory about that... What if the platform isn't always in the same place? What if every couple of years it changes location? One year it could be in Platform 9 3/4 and 4 years down the line it could be in Platform 7 2/4? Doesn't that solve the whole 'Molly asking where the Train is without being an evil minion of Dumbuldore or incompetent' debate?

Also, I've said it before, but I think one of the changes I'd like to see are some gender swaps.. Not those crappy 'Oh hey I'm a girl but I act exactly like I did when I was male'... But something that takes in how a.... Fem. Bill would act? He wouldn't for starters be interested in Fluer.. or would he/she? Would he/she still be a cursebreaker? Stuff like that...
 
#7
crazyfoxdemon said:
Also, I've said it before, but I think one of the changes I'd like to see are some gender swaps.. Not those crappy 'Oh hey I'm a girl but I act exactly like I did when I was male'... But something that takes in how a.... Fem. Bill would act? He wouldn't for starters be interested in Fluer.. or would he/she? Would he/she still be a cursebreaker? Stuff like that...
Well, maybe not EXACTLY the same, but there's something to be said against drastically rewriting their personalities and thereby being one step away from a replacement OC Family.

Besides, if Clarice isn't a major dragon fangirl, how are Harry and Romina going to get Norbert out of the castle? They can't call in connections to a dragon reserve.

...speaking of connections, what if Arthur was a lot more active in certain... less reputable ventures in muggle society? How does Harry change if through his best friend and fangirl, he has connections to the mob?
 

Rahhel

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#8
wingthesword said:
I'd like to see world where there were no Weasleys.

How would Harry get onto the right platform?
Would Harry have been friends with Draco?
What house would Harry have been in?
Would Hermione have ever been in danger of dying by troll club without Ron around?
Would Harry have befriended Hermione?
Would Harry have friends or be a loner?
Who would his friends be?
Would Harry still have found out about the stone?
What would he have done?
Would he have still joined the Quidditch team?
Hmm, about Molly not knowing where the train leaves:
I doubt they change the platform. I think it would have been mentioned if the platform changed once in a while. But I do believe that Molly's comment was a plot device. I guess JK was lazy that day.

I think Dumbledore or McGonagall would have sooner or later checked on Harry if he was stuck on the platform.

Harry would have befriended the first person he saw, so if he met Malfoy first he might have become friends with him. Draco probably didn't leave much of an impression on Harry anyway. He was just some random boy getting his robes.

In which house he would end up? If he befriends Draco it's going to be Slytherin. If it's Neville it might be Hufflepuff. If he is going to be picked up by a teacher it could be one of the other two.

I agree. The thing with Hermione seem inevitable. I would guess that she wouldn't be attacked by the Troll since no-one is as insensitive as Ron therefore she would break later. I doubt Harry is going to befriend her, because he will be reminded of a bully. This bossy nature is a major turnoff. He will be forced to befriend her if she pushes it though.

Harry is desperate for friends at that point. He would befriend anyone. It's also possible that Hagrid might be his only friend.

I doubt he would have cared about the stone. He wouldn't have done anything but tell McGonagall about it being in danger. Harry wouldn't risk expulsion after finding a place where he belongs. He might find out if he actually dedicates some time into it after Hagrid's slip-up. It would really depend in which house he is and who or if anyone is with him.

If Harry has the motivation to find something out about his parents he might join the Quidditch team after finding out about his father. Malfoy might know something and if Harry is in Syltherin he would actually open a book about recent history to know something about the parent's of the Boy-who-lived.


Come to think of it. Without Ron the story might have become really boring. Hermione would be the leader if she Harry and Neville met. Those two wouldn't oppose her bossy nature in the first book and might never grow a spine unless Harry's scar acts up.

Draco might be a good replacement. Someone who shows him around and gets other people in trouble.
 

Prince Charon

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#9
crazyfoxdemon said:
Prince Charon said:
wingthesword said:
I'd like to see world where there were no Weasleys.

How would Harry get onto the right platform?
Dumbldore would have sent another minion (its rather unlikely that Molly would say what she did, the way she did, if she hadn't wanted to attract attention).
I have a theory about that... What if the platform isn't always in the same place? What if every couple of years it changes location? One year it could be in Platform 9 3/4 and 4 years down the line it could be in Platform 7 2/4? Doesn't that solve the whole 'Molly asking where the Train is without being an evil minion of Dumbuldore or incompetent' debate?
IIRC, its always Platform 9 3/4, for the whole series, and was, even beforehand.
 

zerohour

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#10
Oh sleep deprivation, you always give the most twisted of ideas.

What if Molly cracked after having nothing but boys, and decided, come hell or high water, that her next child would be a girl. When she pops out son number seven, she goes... a LITTLE nuts, and has him registered as a girl. Molly might even go a bit further and supplement "her" diet with potions, and throw in a spell or two to encourage feminine traits.

Yes, I did make Ginny a Bridget. I'm a bad person.


Arthur may or may not be in the loop, depending on if he was at the hospital when Ginny wa sborn, or bogged down with work or watching the rest of the Weasleys.


Now this could have a couple of revelation points.
-When they get to Hogwarts, and Ginny isn't allowed into the girls dormitories
-When Ginny hits puberty. Cue shock from the girls when Ginny has a wet dream.
-When Ginny goes past second base. Cue the horror for that unfortunate bloke.
 

Lord Raine

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#11
Prince Charon said:
wingthesword said:
I'd like to see world where there were no Weasleys.

How would Harry get onto the right platform?
Dumbldore would have sent another minion (its rather unlikely that Molly would say what she did, the way she did, if she hadn't wanted to attract attention).
Yeah, but we can't assume that as fact. Molly is quite sensible, but she's also something of a ditz where her children are concerned, and it was Ron's first time ever.

wingthesword said:
Would Harry have been friends with Draco?
Probably not, Draco made a bad first impression in Madame Malkin's.
I agree.

wingthesword said:
What house would Harry have been in?
Difficult to say, but probably still Gryffindor, unless the minion D. arranges to be his friend espouses another House. Harry had wanted to follow his parents, at least a little.
I agree and disagree. Harry didn't go with Gryffindor because it was recommended to him. In fact, he didn't 'go' with Gryffindor at all. It was Malfoy who biased him against Syltheren, and Hagrid who gave him the weighted (but still accurate) depiction of the four houses as a whole.

The Weasleys had nothing to do with it. Also, in case you've forgotten, Harry didn't ask to be in Gryffindor. He asked to not be put in Slytheren. So if Malfoy and Hagrid biasing him immensely against Slytheren still happens, then he's going to end up in Gryffindor regardless.

wingthesword said:
Would Hermione have ever been in danger of dying by troll club without Ron around?
Unlikely.
Depends. We can't know for sure, but I doubt it. Harry is more tactful than Ron, and it was Ron acting like an ass that made Hermione run off to cry in the bathroom.

wingthesword said:
Would Harry have befriended Hermione?
Maybe, difficult to say.
Unless the troll event still happens, or something similar to it, I highly doubt it. They would be mere acquaintances, and probably little else. It was the troll scenario that really made the three friends with each other.

wingthesword said:
Would Harry have friends or be a loner?
He'd at least have one of Bumblebee's minions.
Your bias is immense, and rather annoying. And yes, I would say he would probably end up with some friends. Different friends, sure, but still friends.

wingthesword said:
Who would his friends be?
Not sure, really.
Same. I could make some educated guesses, but it's mostly up in the air.

wingthesword said:
Would Harry still have found out about the stone?
Yes, its painfully obvious that D. wanted Harry to know about it. Its to contrived, otherwise.
Yes, though not for the reasons stated above. What set Harry off on that road was his trip to Diagon Alley with Hagrid. The Weasleys had nothing to do with it. Nor did Dumbledore, unless you're willing to believe that Dumbledore is omniscient.

wingthesword said:
Would he have still joined the Quidditch team?
Probably yes, though the circumstances surrounding the scenario might be somewhat different.
 

mandrke

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#12
zerohour said:
Oh sleep deprivation, you always give the most twisted of ideas.

What if Molly cracked after having nothing but boys, and decided, come hell or high water, that her next child would be a girl. When she pops out son number seven, she goes... a LITTLE nuts, and has him registered as a girl. Molly might even go a bit further and supplement "her" diet with potions, and throw in a spell or two to encourage feminine traits.

Yes, I did make Ginny a Bridget. I'm a bad person.


Arthur may or may not be in the loop, depending on if he was at the hospital when Ginny wa sborn, or bogged down with work or watching the rest of the Weasleys.


Now this could have a couple of revelation points.
-When they get to Hogwarts, and Ginny isn't allowed into the girls dormitories
-When Ginny hits puberty. Cue shock from the girls when Ginny has a wet dream.
-When Ginny goes past second base. Cue the horror for that unfortunate bloke.
Do it! Do it! Do it! :yay:
That is a GOOD IDEA!!!
Any ideas for Luna?
 

RikodouSennin

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#13
Prince Charon said:
crazyfoxdemon said:
Prince Charon said:
wingthesword said:
I'd like to see world where there were no Weasleys.

How would Harry get onto the right platform?
Dumbldore would have sent another minion (its rather unlikely that Molly would say what she did, the way she did, if she hadn't wanted to attract attention).
I have a theory about that... What if the platform isn't always in the same place? What if every couple of years it changes location? One year it could be in Platform 9 3/4 and 4 years down the line it could be in Platform 7 2/4? Doesn't that solve the whole 'Molly asking where the Train is without being an evil minion of Dumbuldore or incompetent' debate?
IIRC, its always Platform 9 3/4, for the whole series, and was, even beforehand.
Errr... middle-aged woman, pre-occupied and absent-minded (even forgetful) due to her five children, four of them going away for the year?

So... yeah, there you go.
 
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