Alternate Halloween costumes for the xman

sworded

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The Eromancer said:
Okay I know this isn't the right topic to bring this up in but has anyone actually looked into how much force is nessesary to puncture the muscle and ribcage with a wooden stake and hit the heart?
I'd think that'd heavily depend on the stake and just how sharp it is. I mean sure there's the answer of x pounds per square inch, but how much force the characters would have to generate to put it through the vamp would differ.
 

The Eromancer

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sworded said:
The Eromancer said:
Okay I know this isn't the right topic to bring this up in but has anyone actually looked into how much force is nessesary to puncture the muscle and ribcage with a wooden stake and hit the heart?
I'd think that'd heavily depend on the stake and just how sharp it is. I mean sure there's the answer of x pounds per square inch, but how much force the characters would have to generate to put it through the vamp would differ.
well its what? about 4 inches to reach the heart to do any real kind of damage to it right?

Then you have to take in to account how much does the stake actually have to hit the heart? just a touch? a couple inches? enough to damage the heart if it had still been living?

Also while how "sharp" a stake is does take some consideration, so does shape, if it a fat stake that'll mean more force would be needed, but you can't make it too thin either or the stake could brake under the pressure after [constant] use.

Then there's other stuff to consider, does any kind of wood work? I mean it looks like it does in the buffy-verse so does that mean petrified wood would work as well? cause that would make a mean dagger and would be SOOOO much more effective than a stake and I've yet to see ANYONE think to use petrified wood chipped down to a dagger as a weapon.
 

SotF

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semil said:
sworded said:
Considering his best friend is Jewish I'd say that's a big time dick move to dress up like that.
Unless he dresses up as someone who was actually a Nazi spy. Which stretches the point, but it would be pretty conservative considering some of the other crazy shit authors have had Xander dress up as.
It might be good for some humor if he ends up as Cartman. I really don't think Xander's dumb enough to dress up as Hitler though
 

sworded

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SotF said:
semil said:
sworded said:
Considering his best friend is Jewish I'd say that's a big time dick move to dress up like that.
Unless he dresses up as someone who was actually a Nazi spy. Which stretches the point, but it would be pretty conservative considering some of the other crazy shit authors have had Xander dress up as.
It might be good for some humor if he ends up as Cartman. I really don't think Xander's dumb enough to dress up as Hitler though
Unless it was Mirror Universe Hitler...hmm that'd be very...crackish, but reallllllly OOC.
 

SotF

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sworded said:
SotF said:
semil said:
sworded said:
Considering his best friend is Jewish I'd say that's a big time dick move to dress up like that.
Unless he dresses up as someone who was actually a Nazi spy. Which stretches the point, but it would be pretty conservative considering some of the other crazy shit authors have had Xander dress up as.
It might be good for some humor if he ends up as Cartman. I really don't think Xander's dumb enough to dress up as Hitler though
Unless it was Mirror Universe Hitler...hmm that'd be very...crackish, but reallllllly OOC.
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybuKQf9p5jg' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Oh dear...</a>

But then again, Willow might go <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_jLnrUXJNM' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>elsewhere</a> with that one...
 

Mercsenary

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SotF said:
sworded said:
SotF said:
semil said:
sworded said:
Considering his best friend is Jewish I'd say that's a big time dick move to dress up like that.
Unless he dresses up as someone who was actually a Nazi spy. Which stretches the point, but it would be pretty conservative considering some of the other crazy shit authors have had Xander dress up as.
It might be good for some humor if he ends up as Cartman. I really don't think Xander's dumb enough to dress up as Hitler though
Unless it was Mirror Universe Hitler...hmm that'd be very...crackish, but reallllllly OOC.
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybuKQf9p5jg' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Oh dear...</a>

But then again, Willow might go <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_jLnrUXJNM' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>elsewhere</a> with that one...
Mirror Universe Hitler is actually a noice guy. He's the de facto ruler of Germany but he just likes to paint. :D
 

EspyLacopa

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The Eromancer said:
sworded said:
The Eromancer said:
Okay I know this isn't the right topic to bring this up in but has anyone actually looked into how much force is nessesary to puncture the muscle and ribcage with a wooden stake and hit the heart?
I'd think that'd heavily depend on the stake and just how sharp it is. I mean sure there's the answer of x pounds per square inch, but how much force the characters would have to generate to put it through the vamp would differ.
well its what? about 4 inches to reach the heart to do any real kind of damage to it right?

Then you have to take in to account how much does the stake actually have to hit the heart? just a touch? a couple inches? enough to damage the heart if it had still been living?

Also while how "sharp" a stake is does take some consideration, so does shape, if it a fat stake that'll mean more force would be needed, but you can't make it too thin either or the stake could brake under the pressure after [constant] use.

Then there's other stuff to consider, does any kind of wood work? I mean it looks like it does in the buffy-verse so does that mean petrified wood would work as well? cause that would make a mean dagger and would be SOOOO much more effective than a stake and I've yet to see ANYONE think to use petrified wood chipped down to a dagger as a weapon.
I somehow doubt a stake made of petrified wood would work. . .seeing how it's made of stone due to the petrification process.
 

The Eromancer

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EspyLacopa said:
The Eromancer said:
sworded said:
The Eromancer said:
Okay I know this isn't the right topic to bring this up in but has anyone actually looked into how much force is nessesary to puncture the muscle and ribcage with a wooden stake and hit the heart?
I'd think that'd heavily depend on the stake and just how sharp it is. I mean sure there's the answer of x pounds per square inch, but how much force the characters would have to generate to put it through the vamp would differ.
well its what? about 4 inches to reach the heart to do any real kind of damage to it right?

Then you have to take in to account how much does the stake actually have to hit the heart? just a touch? a couple inches? enough to damage the heart if it had still been living?

Also while how "sharp" a stake is does take some consideration, so does shape, if it a fat stake that'll mean more force would be needed, but you can't make it too thin either or the stake could brake under the pressure after [constant] use.

Then there's other stuff to consider, does any kind of wood work? I mean it looks like it does in the buffy-verse so does that mean petrified wood would work as well? cause that would make a mean dagger and would be SOOOO much more effective than a stake and I've yet to see ANYONE think to use petrified wood chipped down to a dagger as a weapon.
I somehow doubt a stake made of petrified wood would work. . .seeing how it's made of stone due to the petrification process.
but it's STILL wood and so long as I can't seem to find a definite reason for why only wood but seemly all kinds of wood work then it should stand to reason that petrified wood has a good chance or working. Its really too bad we can't just test this.
 

semil

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It isn't wood, its a fossil of wood. Not the same thing, no organic materials left in it.

Though it does bring up other points. Does wood just have to be inside the heart, even if it isn't on the outside of the weapon. Some sort of piercing weapon with a sliver of wood in the center? If it has to be on the outside could you just laminate thin slices of wood around a weapon?
 

burningclaw2

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From what I know the only reason Gilgamesh lost during F/SN was because Shirou basically had Avalon fused with him, which is why he easily managed to summon Saber, and thus could not be killed, since Avalon is practically the ultimate support/healing Noble Phantasm capable of keeping someone alive long enough to regenerate their head, heart, and other vital organs.

Idea: Xander dresses as Jon Talbain and keeps the awesome werewolf powers from Talbain.

My crack idea would probable get me killed, but hint: pink dress, a bet lost.
 

TmDagger

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burningclaw2 said:
From what I know the only reason Gilgamesh lost during F/SN was because Shirou basically had Avalon fused with him, which is why he easily managed to summon Saber, and thus could not be killed, since Avalon is practically the ultimate support/healing Noble Phantasm capable of keeping someone alive long enough to regenerate their head, heart, and other vital organs.

Idea: Xander dresses as Jon Talbain and keeps the awesome werewolf powers from Talbain.

My crack idea would probable get me killed, but hint: pink dress, a bet lost.
Xander loses bet and dresses as perverted old man. <a href='http://rosariovampire.wikia.com/wiki/Fuhai_Touhou' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>This</a> perverted 'old man'.
 

lcpoketoon

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Xander dresses as Adam Warlock along with having the Soul Gem meanwhile Warren dressed as Thanos who has the Reality Gem. The Effects are the Gems becoming real while else where in the Galaxy the other gems come into being.

After Halloween Alex Warlock finds he has all of Adam's Memeories powers and his body has been altered and he still has the Soul Gem. He also now has mental spiritual advisors in the form of Adam, Magus and Goddess. Xander also learns that the other gems had come into being an are scattered across the Galaxy an while he might be more then willing too leave them be the new Thanos/Warren wants them.

Thanos/Warren has the body of a teenaged Thanos along with his skills, memories and powers but Warren's personaility and mind are in control. He attacks Alex too try an get the Soul Gem but loses the fight along with the Reality gem and then plots too find the other four before coming too get the last two back.

Alex comes up with a plan too try an keep the Hellmouth safe while he off trying too stop Warren. Useing the two gems and quantum magic, he recreates Drax the Destroyer's body and then infuses it with Angel's soul. The newly crafted Drax can take on a human looking form an takes a lot of pleasure ramming a stake into Angelus' heart. He is a bit annoyed when he discovers he can't grow hair. Draz Also discovers and driveing urge in him too protect people and Destroy evil demons and vampires.

He also uses the Soul Gem too help buffy connect wiht the skills and memories of the past Slayers with out being overwlemed by the emotions. One side effect is that now Buffy knows the Full history of the Slayers from the first too the latest Kendra and she can also sense those who have the potentail too be called. Buffy now more skilled in combat and with every weapon ever used on earth. She also now more in balance with who she is between being Buffy and being the Slayer.

For Willow he gives her a Ring and a Book, The Ring allows her too tap into an draw on a small amount of quantum energy and use it while the Book teaches how too do quantum magic. The Book was designed too make her master each lesson before she can unlock the next one within it.

Alex starts too make plans on how he's going too find the other gems before Thanos/Warren can. One thing he does is Recruit/draft Spike and Dru too work for him by restoreing their souls and altering them too be Skrulls as the power too shapeshift will be very useful in the Quest for the Gems.

I figured if anyone wants too go with this idea they could have it crossover with Stargate, Battlestar, Pretender, DC comics or anything else you feel would fit.
 
Would anyone have anyone had any suggestions for costumes that they could see Cordelia or Oz wearing that would've existed around that time.
 

DhampyrX2

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AbyssalDaemon said:
Would anyone have anyone had any suggestions for costumes that they could see Cordelia or Oz wearing that would've existed around that time.
Cordy would wear anything that she considered sexy and stylish. The generic cat costume was kind of out of character for her, really. I could see Mai Shiranui working for her if you wanted to give her skills or powers. Or Cleopatra if you actually wanted something up her alley. As for Oz, minimal is best. Especially if he had a gig that night. He buys a nametag at Ethan's and wears his "God" costume. :snigger:
 
DhampyrX2 said:
AbyssalDaemon said:
Would anyone have anyone had any suggestions for costumes that they could see Cordelia or Oz wearing that would've existed around that time.
Cordy would wear anything that she considered sexy and stylish. The generic cat costume was kind of out of character for her, really.
It was from a fancy costume store. :p

I could see Mai Shiranui working for her if you wanted to give her skills or powers.
Pretty much; the idea was that all of the Scoobies go in costumes that serve in someway to power them up only for this to really screw-up the balance of power and help create the shitstorm of the millennia. The Scoobies are left to try and live up to their costumes and survive even while the PtB shatter as the loose coalition of entities that make it up all start making their own play for the board, the major players in WR&H starts getting actively involved on Earth, the various independents are pissed to hell and back, and the First is lining up the dominoes.

My main probably has been figuring out costumes that they all could wear that might be found or at least cobbled together at Ethan's without it seeming like a total cop-out while also giving a semi-reasonable excuse for why they're keeping the powers.

Something that I've so far managed with the rest of the scoobies but Cordy's being somewhat hard as most of the character's that I dress her up as would probably be either to 'geeky' for her tastes or not something she'd be interested in.

Or Cleopatra if you actually wanted something up her alley.
...That actually could make for a interesting story.

As for Oz, minimal is best.á Especially if he had a gig that night.á He buys a nametag at Ethan's and wears his "God" costume.á :snigger:
:D That'd be rather amusing though just a bit too overpowered.

Besides Ethan also struck me as intelligent enough to keep a somewhat firm hold on the type of costumes that he was selling so that he didn't have to worry about ending up running into somebody dressed as Vader. :p

...Outside some exceptions that is.

I considered doing a Child of Gaia for Oz but he never struck me as hard core gamer and trying to get the already wonky metaphysics to work with WoD Umbra, and everything just seems like it'd cause to much trouble.
 

Prince Charon

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Not quite an alternate costume, and not for Xander, but:

When Willow looks at herself in Buffy's mirror, after putting on her ghost sheet, and before going downstairs, she idly thinks "I could be naked under this, and no-one would know."

She would later regret that thought.

This could go several ways. Perhaps she spends the whole time hiding in a bush, which itself would be pretty AU, and potentially disastrous. OTOH, perhaps she wants to hide, but her conscience won't let her ignore what's going on, so she tries to combine 'hiding' and helping, with much comedy over her failures, and the fact that clothes pass through her like everything else (because as TV Tropes puts it, <a href='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NakedPeopleAreFunny' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Naked People Are Funny</a>). I think the second one is more likely, but it could take a few screams before she starts to move.

Another version is that the spell affects her mind a bit, so either she doesn't know she's naked (and refuses to believe anyone who tells her; whether she realises she was naked after the spell ends is up to the author), or she knows, but doesn't care... until the spell is broken. :evil2:

The latter is used in another idea I might post later, but Willow being a naked ghost on Halloween is almost an afterthought, there.
 

nick012000

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Prince Charon said:
Not quite an alternate costume, and not for Xander, but:

When Willow looks at herself in Buffy's mirror, after putting on her ghost sheet, and before going downstairs, she idly thinks "I could be naked under this, and no-one would know."

She would later regret that thought.

This could go several ways. Perhaps she spends the whole time hiding in a bush, which itself would be pretty AU, and potentially disastrous. OTOH, perhaps she wants to hide, but her conscience won't let her ignore what's going on, so she tries to combine 'hiding' and helping, with much comedy over her failures, and the fact that clothes pass through her like everything else (because as TV Tropes puts it, <a href='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NakedPeopleAreFunny' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Naked People Are Funny</a>). I think the second one is more likely, but it could take a few screams before she starts to move.

Another version is that the spell affects her mind a bit, so either she doesn't know she's naked (and refuses to believe anyone who tells her; whether she realises she was naked after the spell ends is up to the author), or she knows, but doesn't care... until the spell is broken. :evil2:

The latter is used in another idea I might post later, but Willow being a naked ghost on Halloween is almost an afterthought, there.
I think that the most likely thing would be her running around with one arm over her chest and the other covering her crotch.

Giles's reaction to seeing her like that would probably be quite amusing. :lol:
 

Dreago

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How a bout a cross with Dragon Ball (Z)?

WITHOUT overpowering him too much.

How?

He decides to go as an eccentric wizard, with a colorful shirt, a staff, beard and mustache. Maybe a stuffed turtle as a familiar.

Yeah, Roshi. Powerful, but not world destroying powerful, and perverted as can be.
 
yeah, let's dress as the guy who can blow the moon, sealed/was trained by the one who sealed the 'penultimate' evil and created the technique who can destroy mountains on a whim (he did blow up a mountain-castle on his first appeareance, blew the moon and had hypnotism as one of his skills).
man i think that Tao Paipai was less powerful than Roshi.
Yajirobe would be the best bet if you want a somewhat 'normal' character who is not horribly Overpowered for the setting., well either him or the one that taught Goku the 'star whatchamacallit style' before he went to train with Muten Roshi.
 

Dreago

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shioran toushin said:
yeah, let's dress as the guy who can blow the moon, sealed/was trained by the one who sealed the 'penultimate' evil and created the technique who can destroy mountains on a whim (he did blow up a mountain-castle on his first appeareance, blew the moon and had hypnotism as one of his skills).
man i think that Tao Paipai was less powerful than Roshi.
Yajirobe would be the best bet if you want a somewhat 'normal' character who is not horribly Overpowered for the setting., well either him or the one that taught Goku the 'star whatchamacallit style' before he went to train with Muten Roshi.
According to weekly jump #31, in 1991, during the fight with Vegeta, Yajirobe had a power level of 970.

Roshi, when Bulma scanned him had 139.
 
considering that ?Earth' beings can change their 'powerlevel' at the drop of a hat or by being serious, emotive orjust by concentrating, i really doubt those numbers, afterall the other Z-fighters went from 'trash' to 'mildly distracting' just by 'powering' their auras.
 

Dreago

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shioran toushin said:
considering that ?Earth' beings can change their 'powerlevel' at the drop of a hat or by being serious, emotive orjust by concentrating, i really doubt those numbers, afterall the other Z-fighters went from 'trash' to 'mildly distracting' just by 'powering' their auras.
When shown as Jackie Chun he barely beats Goku. Jump puts Chun at 180. Since he struggled so much, I'm assuming thats his max.
 
Seeing the Hobbit and re-reading the book, not to mention playing Misty Mountains/the dwarven song of old wealth...

What would happen if Xan dressed as Thorin?
 

Typhonis

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YAHF

Rupert Giles looked over the assembled Scoobies and Cordelia "Now then have you retained anything from last night?"

Buffy nodded. "French test is in the bag."

Willow looked at him. "I'm not able to pss through things anymore."

Cordy spoke up her voice irate. "Well now lets see. My eyes are red. I have that crazy womans memories floating around in my head and I can make any of you view Hell if I wish. I can also create other illusions and can do all sorts of weird ninja things."

Giles sighed then looked at the last Scooby, Xander. "Do you have anything to add Xander?"

The grey haired teen put a finger in the book he was reading to keep the place. He had a headband covering his left eye as he lazily looked up at the librarian."Did you say something ,Giles.?"
 
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