Bleach An early end to Aizen.
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ttestagr said:
It is a pretty big assuptiom to say that Aizen even has a bankai. The shikai that he showed to the rest of SS was a fake, the bankai he would have shown to become captain would have been as well.
And that was Kenny. Still, consider this; everyone's bankai is just a bigger or more elaborate version of their Shikai; if Aizen's shikai puts you under 'perfect' hypnosis, what would his bankai do?
And the main concept behind bankai isn't power. Power really has nothing to do with it. In order to get bankai, you have to dominate your zanpakutou. And considering exactly what Aizen's does, I'd think that would be hard to the point of impossible to do.
edit: Yoruichi also didn't know about Aizen's shikai. Whatever bankai he showed isn't the one he would have. If he has one at all.
edit: Yoruichi also didn't know about Aizen's shikai. Whatever bankai he showed isn't the one he would have. If he has one at all.
warai_kitsune said:
ttestagr said:
It is a pretty big assuptiom to say that Aizen even has a bankai.á The shikai that he showed to the rest of SS was a fake, the bankai he would have shown to become captain would have been as well.
And that was Kenny. Still, consider this; everyone's bankai is just a bigger or more elaborate version of their Shikai; if Aizen's shikai puts you under 'perfect' hypnosis, what would his bankai do?
trevelyan1983 said:
As for Byakuya taking on Aizen - if Aizen is standing within a fifty foot radius of Byakuya, he's going to die. There's no illusion that will protect anyone from ten thousand tiny blades cutting them into mincemeat. Ganjyu stated that Byakuya's Reiatsu was above even Kenpachi's, he regularly pulls kidou out of his ass without incantions, he's almost on Yoruichi's level when it comes to Shyunpo - he's a monster, and one that no sane man would take on unless, as here, he was already exhausted and wounded.
Cornuthaum said:
The problem with Aizen is that his stupid illusions make it impossible for us to do anything but guess.
And, let's face it, Aizen only got away cleanly because all the captains were dead tired/almost dead.
And, let's face it, Aizen only got away cleanly because all the captains were dead tired/almost dead.
Negotiation is convincing others to do what you want. negacion is teleporting others to another dimension.
You were probably confused because it is pronounced as negation.
Any time you are confused on whether or not you have a hollow related term right you only need remember one thing: If it isn't spanish, it isn't right.
You were probably confused because it is pronounced as negation.
Any time you are confused on whether or not you have a hollow related term right you only need remember one thing: If it isn't spanish, it isn't right.
When Aizen used the level 90 spell, he did so while skipping the incantation - something that requires an insane level of power and skill, but also means that it wasn't nearly as strong as it could have been.
Komamaru wasn't too tired himself; he stopped fighting Zaraki Kenpachi before either of them could really get serious. Even so, he got pretty much knocked out from an incomplete spell.
As for Aizen blocking Ichigo's finger; that was no illusion as Ichigo was never placed under it. While it's hard to tell how "sharp" Zangetsu was at that point, even a weakened bankai is definitely stronger than the level Zangetsu was at when Ichigo initially fought Zaraki, meaning that Aizen's spiritual toughness is at least as strong, if not stronger, than Zaraki's.
Fact is, Aizen is strong enough to play around even with other captains, and he knows it.
Komamaru wasn't too tired himself; he stopped fighting Zaraki Kenpachi before either of them could really get serious. Even so, he got pretty much knocked out from an incomplete spell.
As for Aizen blocking Ichigo's finger; that was no illusion as Ichigo was never placed under it. While it's hard to tell how "sharp" Zangetsu was at that point, even a weakened bankai is definitely stronger than the level Zangetsu was at when Ichigo initially fought Zaraki, meaning that Aizen's spiritual toughness is at least as strong, if not stronger, than Zaraki's.
Fact is, Aizen is strong enough to play around even with other captains, and he knows it.
zeebee1 said:
Negotiation is convincing others to do what you want. negacion is teleporting others to another dimension.
You were probably confused because it is pronounced as negation.
Any time you are confused on whether or not you have a hollow related term right you only need remember one thing: If it isn't spanish, it isn't right.
You were probably confused because it is pronounced as negation.
Any time you are confused on whether or not you have a hollow related term right you only need remember one thing: If it isn't spanish, it isn't right.
Steel said:
Bankai Yamamoto might have owned him...but I think the residual power from just releasing his bankai would incinerate most of Soul Society, which would be a bad thing.
Yamamoto is definitely a force to be reckoned with. We know he has enough reiatsu to knock out a vice captain with simply pressure, and though it's hard to tell how she ranked as a fighter herself he did stand up against two of the senior captains, without being worried that he could actually lose; on the contrary, the other two were afraid of him.
If it was a battle of the shikai, I still think that Aizen would hold the advantage. However, as we haven't seen what either of their bankai can do, we don't know how a full out battle between them would be.
Probably the end of the world, is my guess.
Yes.
Because, he totally did everything without thinking. No planning, no preparation, no thought went into it at all.
No. He's not Ichigo.
I'll admit one thing: He was gloating at the end. Other than that, he made insane preparations for his main plan, setting the foundation many years before hand, and even prepared a back up plan just in case - with good reason. At the end, he would have been able to have gotten away even if all of the Captains were fresh - his shikai's power is the kind that is perfect for making escapes.
What could the rest of them do? Swing wildly, and hope that they hit him?
Only Ichigo could really do something, but any appearance he made would immediately be followed by an attack of the Thirteen Squadrons on him, so he wouldn't be in any condition to fight when Aizen made his appearance.
If anything, Soul Society was lucky just to partially hinder Aizen's plans.
Because, he totally did everything without thinking. No planning, no preparation, no thought went into it at all.
No. He's not Ichigo.
I'll admit one thing: He was gloating at the end. Other than that, he made insane preparations for his main plan, setting the foundation many years before hand, and even prepared a back up plan just in case - with good reason. At the end, he would have been able to have gotten away even if all of the Captains were fresh - his shikai's power is the kind that is perfect for making escapes.
What could the rest of them do? Swing wildly, and hope that they hit him?
Only Ichigo could really do something, but any appearance he made would immediately be followed by an attack of the Thirteen Squadrons on him, so he wouldn't be in any condition to fight when Aizen made his appearance.
If anything, Soul Society was lucky just to partially hinder Aizen's plans.