Naruto And yet another Naruto AU idea

DhampyrX2

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#1
Ok this bunny has been breeding in my head for a while now. What if, at an early age, Naruto figured out that you have to actually hurt and possibly kill people in order to be a shinobi and decided he didn't want to do that? What if, instead, he wanted to help people rather than hurt them. What if, Naruto chose to become a healer?

Ok first thing, I think it would win over at least some of the Konoha population over time. It's easier to rationalize that the demon-fox boy will snap and kill you all when he's actually being trained to become a killer rather than when he's saving lives, helping to cure illnesses, and patching up the injured.

Second I think it would upset the faction that see Naruto as a potential weapon to exploit.

Third, I think it wou.ld royally piss off the Kyuubi on an epic scale.

Fourth, I think it might make an intersting story.


So...Comments? Thoughts? Criticisms? Oaths of fealty to my undying and eternal rule?
 

cilrais

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#2
One problem is there is nothing a doctor can do in the narutoverse that a medic nin can't do much better, and being trained in the ways of the medic nin would mean he'd still be a shinobi required to kill people. Staying in Konoha would result in Naruto being a bedpan cleaning orderly...
However, if he ran away or was sent to that temple of monks that Hidan and Kakuzu destroyed, he could probably learn some healing techniques and some bad ass monk self-defense style.
Not that it helped those monks much against Akatsuki.
 

DhampyrX2

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#3
That assumes the general population would be willing and able to afford the services of a medic-nin every time they needed a doctor. Just from a mission standpoint based on how rare fully trained medic-nin are supposed to be that would be out of the price range of the average villager unless it was a dire emergency. This Naruto would be more of the neighbohood GP rather than a trained combat medic, using apothecary medicines, chiropractic techniques, moxibustion, and whatever modern amenities he has access to in order to help people. He'd be more like a Doc Tofu from Ranma 1/2 in training rather than a hospital shinobi. In fact, he might have a certain disdain for most shinobis outside of perhaps Sarutobi. (Remember, he'd have no real reason to interact with Iruka here and they're hurting people while he's dedicated to patching them up.)

I see this Naruto being scorned by the medic-nin community, at least at first, but accepted by other non-nin medical professionals in the area. He'd probably also travel in his early schooling years to get the basics he'd need to set up shop in Konoha. (I don't see him having any kind of major affect on the Narutoverse as a whole until at least the chuunin exams. Every person with medical training would be pressed to help after the invasion was over with.) He'd be more integrated with the civilians, perhaps to the point of having more than one treat him like Ichiraku as they got used to him.

The real stickler for the story would be how the shinobis of Konoha react. Sarutobi and Jiraiya would try to pressure Naruto to follow in Arashi's footsteps, I think. Tsunade and Shizune might get even more protective toward him once she meets him. Hinata might come to see him as a friend if they ever meet (she was making medical salves after all. They'd at least have something in common to talk about.) He could get to know the Yamanakas by buying medicinal flowers through them.

I don't see him giving two whits about Sasuke and Sakura, and vice-versa. The other genin are up to interpretation.
 

Moshulel

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#4
That assumes the general population would be willing and able to afford the services of a medic-nin every time they needed a doctor.
Well in a ninja village it's not so unlikely...

Anyway, i saw a similar idea (didn't thrill me) where Naruto left the village because he wanted to be a doctor and the village didn't allowed it (more like nobody wanted to be treated by him) and he returns years later when Konoha is in dire need. :sweat:

I see him as a mix between doctor and med-nin (pity to waste all that chakra). An interesting road to aknowledgement would be him saving someone with his medical skills. Afterwards, a slow and tendious process while the ones he treats are shunned at first.
 

DhampyrX2

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#5
Who he treats at first might actually help him on the was to being accepted. Obviously the first patients he'll get will be people that didn't come from Konoha originally or the very poor who can't afford medic-nin care. Orphans, the elderly (whose support might really bolster his status if enough of them like him) and those with low paying civilian jobs will go to him because he's dirt cheap and the risk of Naruto treating then isn't big enough to deter them from getting actual medical care. Particularly because I will portray the hospital as an administrative nightmare without someone like Tsunade or Shizune to get things organized.

As for Naruto's chakra, well that will come into play later. At first he'd be a straight civvie doc. But as he helps more people and gets more accepted it might get enough attention from the more accepting medic-nin. It would be just like any other profession, your peers and associates will trade stories and techniques with you as they get to know you to improve their craft and yours. It would become a case of stuff like, "I'll teach you this Raiton jutsu to help re-start a stopped heart. Can you show me how to make that tea to soothe labor pains in pregnant women?" or "How does that pressure point reduce the blood flow without using chakra? Would you be interested in seeing how we do it in the medic-nin corps?

Of course the key to mass acceptance might be saving someone who the whole village wants to keep alive. Like say... Sarutobi-sama after the fight with Orochimaru. I know, I know. It should be impossible after the Shiki Fuujin, but I have an idea of how to play it out in my head.
 

Moshulel

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#6
It would become a case of stuff like, "I'll teach you this Raiton jutsu to help re-start a stopped heart. Can you show me how to make that tea to soothe labor pains in pregnant women?" or "How does that pressure point reduce the blood flow without using chakra? Would you be interested in seeing how we do it in the medic-nin corps?
What about a field med nin that wants to supply himself with medicine for lighter afflictions as to save chakra for the bigger injuryes? Instead of paying he just teaches Naruto a bit there and there about how to use chakra for treatment.


I'll teach you this Raiton jutsu to help re-start a stopped heart. Can you show me how to make that tea to soothe labor pains in pregnant women?"

One problem here though is that we already seen that med nin are requaiered to have extensive knowledge about plants, poisons and the likes.

You could just have a med nin gratefull to him for something he did... the ideas can be played out in many different ways.

"Like say... Sarutobi-sama after the fight with Orochimaru. "

Well.. if he uses the Shiki... Oh well will just see what you have in mind.

One thing though, since he wont be a nin there are going to be a lot of things that are going to change.
 

DhampyrX2

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#7
One thing though, since he wont be a nin there are going to be a lot of things that are going to change.
Yup. And that's why it's going to be an AU. I agree some medic nin will teach him some tricks out of the goodness of their hearts. But not at first. The tea thing is just an example. Also, when you think about it, the nature of a medic-nin is an extremely skilled combat medic meant to treat wounded ninja. It's plausible, no matter how improbable, that they might not know about certain things like a tea specifically to soothe labor pains. They have modern ansethtetics and justsus for things like that, and it's possible Konoha would have their own variation of an OB-GYN or even a midwife to handle births so that such things don't take up the valuable time of the midic-nins. Besides, Naruto will be learning things most nins wouldn't have time to learn about in their training like moxibustion and chiropractic medicine. Those skills would spark some interest.
 

cilrais

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#8
2 questions:
1.Any thoughts on how Doctor Naruto will deal with the Akatsuki?
2.Any chance of a Doogie Howser reference?
 

Moshulel

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#9
DhampyrX2 said:
The tea thing is just an example. Also, when you think about it, the nature of a medic-nin is an extremely skilled combat medic meant to treat wounded ninja.
Not really... they can find a cure for poison in record time yet they aren't able to do something for some pregnancies?

But... that doesn't mean that it's time consuming for them and places yet a nother: "To Do" on their already loaded list...

I'm leaning more towards commodity as a reason, after all why spend three days gathering ingredients and making that tea when you can just have it for a small favor? People are like that... LAZY :snigger:

And at some point someone will notive that the demon brat actually does a very good job and get interested, only to find out the kid is years ahead in "alternative" medicine over them. That would certainly make someone interested in tehniques that might have aplications on the battle field.

Of course keep in mind that Naruto might not be so willing to share, after all knowledge is used by nin most of the time to kill, even if they are med nin. So this will be interesting seeing as he'll probably refuse to share anything that might be misused.
 

DhampyrX2

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#10
cilrais said:
2 questions:
1.Any thoughts on how Doctor Naruto will deal with the Akatsuki?
2.Any chance of a Doogie Howser reference?
Akatsuki will be less than concerned about him at first because they figure he'll be one of the easiest containers to capture, at least on paper. The only reason they haven't yet is that they don't want to deal with half of Konoha to get him until they need him. After all, why concern themselves with someone that won't be any stronger and harder to get five years from now as he is tomorrow? The can worry about the other containers first, then scoop up Naruto, unless a major opportunity presents itself.

As for your second point. No. Just... no.
 

cilrais

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#11
I think you have it backwards, being so easy to capture makes him the first target to go after, and kyuubi's powers would make the other biju much easier to capture.
At least that's how it seemed to happen in the manga, the easier targets are already acquired and now more or less all of Akatsuki is converging on Naruto, the last demon carrier left.
 

DhampyrX2

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#12
Two factors make Naruto less easy to capture than he looks at first glance. One, he's actually developed a base of people that like him in Konoha that would make it harder to sneak off with him. Particularly if he's developed friendships with the likes of Hinata and Konohamaru. Until the sound invasion the threat of Sandaime would keep them at bay. Two Jiraiya will be there to watch him like a hawk until the recover Tsunade out of fear of just that scenario. Ero-sennen may look goofy, but there was a reason Itachi and Kisame didn't want to face him in a straight fight.

Once they have Tsunade back, could you see her not mother-henning a healer Naruto to a ridiculous degree in order to protect him? That's why I said he was the easiest on paper. Itachi would know better than to assume anything and would still try to pick his spots rather than risk failure with two Sannin keeping an eye on Naruto.
 

Pirazy

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#13
Me likes!
And having him using "conventional" medicine, as opposed to making him a medic-nin relying on chakra, makes sense considering that the Kyuubi's chakra has been revealed to be highly toxic. And since it automatically mixes with Naruto's chakra through the seal it'd make all his attempts at healing someone with his chakra unsuccessful at best, like poison to your soul or something..
 

GenocideHeart

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#14
Pirazy said:
Me likes!
And having him using "conventional" medicine, as opposed to making him a medic-nin relying on chakra, makes sense considering that the Kyuubi's chakra has been revealed to be highly toxic. And since it automatically mixes with Naruto's chakra through the seal it'd make all his attempts at healing someone with his chakra unsuccessful at best, like poison to your soul or something..
I could actually see him developing a new breed of jutsu based specifically on that property, like what Jun does in Twisted Fates - her chakra is somehow tainted, and reacts to normal chakra in unpredictable ways - a jutsu that's used while Jun's own chakra has been infused in your chakra coils might work as usual. Or it might make you blow up. Or it might create a shower of roses instead of a Katon jutsu... basically, the effect is random, but more often than not, it'll be something you REALLY don't want to happen in the middle of a life or death fight.

Just a thought. ^_^
 

Moshulel

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#15
Pirazy said:
Me likes!
And having him using "conventional" medicine, as opposed to making him a medic-nin relying on chakra, makes sense considering that the Kyuubi's chakra has been revealed to be highly toxic. And since it automatically mixes with Naruto's chakra through the seal it'd make all his attempts at healing someone with his chakra unsuccessful at best, like poison to your soul or something..
Being unable to use chakra healing tehniques would be very limiting for him. One way or another he'll want to learn them AND find a way to use them adapted to his own chakra or he'll be limited in what he can do to help someone...
 

DhampyrX2

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#16
I don't think Naruto would be completely unable to use any jutsus. As I understood it from Orochimaru's comments in the Forest of Death, the seal was acting like a filter to slowly merge the Kyuubi's chakra into Naruto's own reserves. On top of that you have to assume he has a huge untainted chakra reserve from his canon talent with things like the kage bunshin. His big problem was always control, most likely due to his high capacity. With this Naruto, he'd keep insane control of his chakra as a top priority in he learned any jutsus so that his patients wouldn't be in danger. More importantly, he'd never use Kyuubi's chakra for healing for one simple reason: at the beginning he had to be insanely angry and/or scared to use Kyuubi's power. That's not an attitude a healer would allow himself while working on someone.
 

Moshulel

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#17
DhampyrX2 said:
I don't think Naruto would be completely unable to use any jutsus. As I understood it from Orochimaru's comments in the Forest of Death, the seal was acting like a filter to slowly merge the Kyuubi's chakra into Naruto's own reserves. On top of that you have to assume he has a huge untainted chakra reserve from his canon talent with things like the kage bunshin. His big problem was always control, most likely due to his high capacity. With this Naruto, he'd keep insane control of his chakra as a top priority in he learned any jutsus so that his patients wouldn't be in danger. More importantly, he'd never use Kyuubi's chakra for healing for one simple reason: at the beginning he had to be insanely angry and/or scared to use Kyuubi's power. That's not an attitude a healer would allow himself while working on someone.
Actually i was looking at the problem from a different angle...

He is limited in his ability to heal because i doubt he can find alternative methods to heal extensive damage. He needs to learn chakra tehniques for that.
And keep in mind that Kyuubi's chakra always mingles with his chakra...

Issue: How will he learn about chakra manipulation if he doesn't go to the academy?
 

toraneko

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#18
Moshulel said:
Issue: How will he learn about chakra manipulation if he doesn't go to the academy?
Sneaking into the library? Stolen scrolls or textbooks? Lessons from a retured nin of another village? Witnessing academy students doing it and trying to find out how to duplicate the effect?

There's a lot more possibilities than those, even.
 

DhampyrX2

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#19
Issue: How will he learn about chakra manipulation if he doesn't go to the academy?
Um, helper monkeys? Actually I figured he'd pick up some here and there from his travels as well as trading tips with some of the less prejudiced medic-nins in Konoha. Of course, once he meets Tsunade and Shizune either or both would be willing to show him whatever kinds of healing techniques he asked about. ANd he wouldn't be healing massive damage very often. You don't go to a GP for things that require the emergency room. Naruto will be a simple village healer, but the hospital would still be there for emergency situations. the only case where he might be dealing with immediate trauma is either when he happens across someone seriously wounded (less likely within the village proper), or in extreme times like the Sound invasion.
 

Moshulel

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#20
toraneko said:
Sneaking into the library? Stolen scrolls or textbooks? Lessons from a retured nin of another village?
That could work, but he'll have to start them early on.

Actually I figured he'd pick up some here and there from his travels as well as trading tips with some of the less prejudiced medic-nins in Konoha.
He'll still need the basics early on, before he's aknowledge by anyone, i think toraneko's idea of him stealing scrolls coud fit nicely here.

Naruto will be a simple village healer, but the hospital would still be there for emergency situations. the only case where he might be dealing with immediate trauma is either when he happens across someone seriously wounded (less likely within the village proper), or in extreme times like the Sound invasion.
Yes, but he'll need those chakra healing tehniques for times like those... :p
 

SMWhat

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#21
Heh, heh, with that whatchamacallit, he could have he own one-man medical team!

(...I'm not very good with names...or names of things...)
 

Moshulel

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#22
SMWhat said:
Heh, heh, with that whatchamacallit, he could have he own one-man medical team!

(...I'm not very good with names...or names of things...)
Huh? You mean the Kage Bunshin?

Here's a thought: While the KB replicate Naruto i doubt they replicate the Kyuubi as well, seeing that he might just find a way to use them for medical treatment this way. Depends how you bend the rules though...
 

toraneko

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#23
Could be, but the description of the KB is a little vague. It says that KBnJ "splits the user's remaining chakra evenly between himself and all the clones", which explains how Kage Bunshin can do minor jutsu without just dissipating.
But, does it mean it splits the chakra that's left in the body, or that it splits the chakra the user molds for the jutsu?
In either case, if Kyuubi's chakra is merging with Naruto, the KBs likely have the same "taint" to them as Naruto does. But, since it is so undefined, you could probably get away with it.
 

Moshulel

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#24
toraneko said:
In either case, if Kyuubi's chakra is merging with Naruto, the KBs likely have the same "taint" to them as Naruto does. But, since it is so undefined, you could probably get away with it.
The taint is still there, but the risk of actuall Kyuubi chakra interfering is nill, since the KB don't have a Kyuubi sealed in them. I actually think that the chakra that "leaks" normally through the seal is converted by Naruto's body to his own chakra.
 

toraneko

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#25
Moshulel said:
The taint is still there, but the risk of actuall Kyuubi chakra interfering is nill, since the KB don't have a Kyuubi sealed in them. I actually think that the chakra that "leaks" normally through the seal is converted by Naruto's body to his own chakra.
Sounds like it could work well enough.
 
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