Harry Potter Another Alternate Harry idea.
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Thanks Moshulel, but my idea was along the line of using Nagi as a plot bunny based on
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Nagi was supposedly killed in a battle, but then later on it was mentioned that Nagi came back and saved Negi when the town/city was attacked. My idea here now is that the enemy/demon/whoever he/she/it is was unable to kill Nagi, therefore instead they banished him and he ended up in HP's realm.
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By assuming that he was trying to find a way back to his dimension, he managed to go back there in time to save the town/city where Negi was being attacked and gave him the staff. But he was unable to stay there not long before he got kicked back into the HP's realm, and when he 'returned' he saw a 4/5 year old Harry being bullied at a park or somewhere near 4 privart drive. And by assuming that Harry's growth is equal to Negi's growth in his academy years, we can use that as a baseline for Harry's capabilities when he gets his Hogwarts letter.
*SPOILER* (highlight to read)
Nagi was supposedly killed in a battle, but then later on it was mentioned that Nagi came back and saved Negi when the town/city was attacked. My idea here now is that the enemy/demon/whoever he/she/it is was unable to kill Nagi, therefore instead they banished him and he ended up in HP's realm.
*END SPOILER*
By assuming that he was trying to find a way back to his dimension, he managed to go back there in time to save the town/city where Negi was being attacked and gave him the staff. But he was unable to stay there not long before he got kicked back into the HP's realm, and when he 'returned' he saw a 4/5 year old Harry being bullied at a park or somewhere near 4 privart drive. And by assuming that Harry's growth is equal to Negi's growth in his academy years, we can use that as a baseline for Harry's capabilities when he gets his Hogwarts letter.
Sephiroth is being INFLUENCED by Jenova. His actions are his own, but she has a strong influence on him.
On the other hand, the Sephiroth CLONES are being controlled by Jenova herself. That much is all but stated in FF7 itself.
What this means is that essentially, Sephiroth sits his mutated ass in the Crater all game, waiting for you to kill him, while Jenova manipulates the clones to do her bidding.
On the other hand, the Sephiroth CLONES are being controlled by Jenova herself. That much is all but stated in FF7 itself.
What this means is that essentially, Sephiroth sits his mutated ass in the Crater all game, waiting for you to kill him, while Jenova manipulates the clones to do her bidding.
I misspoke with the same meaning, if you have something that can dig through your mind and mess with it, you've got problems. Combine that with Sephiroths entire world being shattered when he first found Jenova and you have some severe problems developing and then he was dumped into the lifestream.
Jeovah was probably being manipulated after Sephiroth came out of the life stream when he wasn't weakened by everything else but already pretty much insane.
One major theory of mine and several other people is that in Final Fantasy 7 you never see the real Sephiroth until the end of the fight and in flashbacks. He was using Jenova to accomplish his own ends. Ends that came from Jenovah basically mind raping him after his views of the world was shattered by finding the truth about his own origins and was being severely influenced almost to the point of control from that contact until he fell into the lifestram due to the fight with Cloud and Zack.
When he comes back in the massive crystal in the northern crater surrounded by the WEAPONs, he'd completely lost it to hatred and megalomania and set about trying to end the world and become a god. During this point he had the mental power since recovering from his shattered conceptions and basically could control parts of Jenova to make a simulcrum of himself that he used to taunt and drive on his plans involving the puppet.
Jeovah was probably being manipulated after Sephiroth came out of the life stream when he wasn't weakened by everything else but already pretty much insane.
One major theory of mine and several other people is that in Final Fantasy 7 you never see the real Sephiroth until the end of the fight and in flashbacks. He was using Jenova to accomplish his own ends. Ends that came from Jenovah basically mind raping him after his views of the world was shattered by finding the truth about his own origins and was being severely influenced almost to the point of control from that contact until he fell into the lifestram due to the fight with Cloud and Zack.
When he comes back in the massive crystal in the northern crater surrounded by the WEAPONs, he'd completely lost it to hatred and megalomania and set about trying to end the world and become a god. During this point he had the mental power since recovering from his shattered conceptions and basically could control parts of Jenova to make a simulcrum of himself that he used to taunt and drive on his plans involving the puppet.
I really shouldn't post when i haven't slept in over 30 hours 
To correct myself:
You two naturally are right that he is influenced during the whole "mother!" scenes
what i wanted to say was that, if memory serves me right, in an interview the creators said that Sephiroth fought against the influence and in the end( read in the lifestream) he won and was free of any influence meaning that his last actions were indeed his own. Naturally many fans argue that point since his actions arent that different from Jenova's. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :blue: :sweat:
To correct myself:
You two naturally are right that he is influenced during the whole "mother!" scenes
what i wanted to say was that, if memory serves me right, in an interview the creators said that Sephiroth fought against the influence and in the end( read in the lifestream) he won and was free of any influence meaning that his last actions were indeed his own. Naturally many fans argue that point since his actions arent that different from Jenova's. Sorry for the misunderstanding. :blue: :sweat:
In my opinion the ideas originated with Jenova and the resurected Sephiroth from Advent Children could have been more controlled by Jenova than the original.
My view is that in Nibelheim when his worldview was shattered and he was in close proximity to Jenova, his mind was weakened enough that Jenova started attempting to take him over, and sephiroth fought it (Which explains how he could have been beaten by Cloud and Zack even when defeated). The mental battle ended in the lifestream when Sephiroths mind could adjust to everything without any interferance from the physical, but he'd already been influenced and effected (Or more of guided) down the beginning of the path by Jenova, he just carried it through with a damaged mind and an unhealthy dose of megalomania.
My view is that in Nibelheim when his worldview was shattered and he was in close proximity to Jenova, his mind was weakened enough that Jenova started attempting to take him over, and sephiroth fought it (Which explains how he could have been beaten by Cloud and Zack even when defeated). The mental battle ended in the lifestream when Sephiroths mind could adjust to everything without any interferance from the physical, but he'd already been influenced and effected (Or more of guided) down the beginning of the path by Jenova, he just carried it through with a damaged mind and an unhealthy dose of megalomania.