Ranma ½ Are there any fics where...

GenocideHeart

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...Nodoka actually has Ranma and Genma carry out the suicide contract? I don't think I ever saw a take on THAT.
 

GenocideHeart

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Fatuous One said:
Do you mean that Nodoka actually kills both Ranma and Genma or that the contract just is going to take place? Both have been done before I believe.
Either is fine. I'm in the mood for some angst. :rolleyes:
 

Fatuous One

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Hmm... I can't find the latter option at the moment; I'll go looking around for a bit.

For the first, there is "Mother's Honor" by Michael Fetter. Of course, as one might expect, this is a very short story.

However, on an off tangent, if you're looking for some angst, might I recommend "A Broken Casket" by Kwokinator? Veeeery dark.
 

GenocideHeart

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Fatuous One said:
Hmm... I can't find the latter option at the moment; I'll go looking around for a bit.

For the first, there is "Mother's Honor" by Michael Fetter. Of course, as one might expect, this is a very short story.

However, on an off tangent, if you're looking for some angst, might I recommend "A Broken Casket" by Kwokinator? Veeeery dark.
Both are impressive. Thankee.
 

Fatuous One

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It is quite horrific, is it not? I especially found the way the senshi were killed to be... ironic.

I've heard that Kwok might be considering a sequel, if he ever gets off his lazy ass anyway.
 

GenocideHeart

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Fatuous One said:
It is quite horrific, is it not? I especially found the way the senshi were killed to be... ironic.

I've heard that Kwok might be considering a sequel, if he ever gets off his lazy ass anyway.
How the heck does one write a sequel to a genocide? He killed everyone except Kasumi.
 

GenocideHeart

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Fatuous One said:
More crossovers, of course!

Think about throwing that Ranma into like... the Naruto world. Maybe Love Hina, Negima... Harry Potter? The possibilities are endless.
The Naruto world would be a very bad idea. If you read the latest chapter, you'll know why. That 4-tail Naruto makes anything from Ranma look like child's play. :ph43r:

The rest would be interesting though.
 

Fatuous One

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Meh, that's assuming that Naruto would get to that point. Ranma has some pretty brutal attacks. You'll notice that Naruto really doesn't defend against mental attacks very well, if Ranma used the Phoenix Genma-ken then Naruto probably wouldn't last, unless someone (Maybe the Kyuubi?) intervened.

Still, I'm going to ignore anything post-timeskip as canon, 'cause I don't want to deal with all the freaking plotholes. (WTF? Sasuke is stronger then a four-tailed Naruto? Suuure Kishi, suuure...)
 

GenocideHeart

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Fatuous One said:
Meh, that's assuming that Naruto would get to that point. Ranma has some pretty brutal attacks. You'll notice that Naruto really doesn't defend against mental attacks very well, if Ranma used the Phoenix Genma-ken then Naruto probably wouldn't last, unless someone (Maybe the Kyuubi?) intervened.

Still, I'm going to ignore anything post-timeskip as canon, 'cause I don't want to deal with all the freaking plotholes. (WTF? Sasuke is stronger then a four-tailed Naruto? Suuure Kishi, suuure...)
Heh.

Personally, my opinion is that any sort of mindrape would just cause the Kyuubi to take total control - it's mostly Naruto's will that keeps it in check. Remove Naruto and it'd be a recipe for disaster.

Now, yeah, a fully Kyuubified Naruto would almost certainly die from burning his body out - but not before turning the battlefield in a crater the size of Arizona. And as much as this Ranma impressed me, he ain't surviving the ninja equivalent of a matter-antimatter explosion.

Just my $0.02. Would be one hell of a way to finish it, though.
 

Fatuous One

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See... that doesn't really work in my mind. Kyuubi is basically imprisoned behind the seal, and the seal is independent of Naruto, I don't see how he would be able to take control. You say that Naruto is the one that keeps him in check, but considering that Naruto wasn't even aware of him for the first 12 (?) years of his life... I don't really see that. At most, Kyuubi might be able to insert a bunch of chakra and make Naruto go completely animalistic. In my opinion anyway.

But yeah, if Naruto blew up (Heh) Ranma would be toast. However, I still think that Ranma would probably kill Naruto before he was able to get to that point.
 

GenocideHeart

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Fatuous One said:
See... that doesn't really work in my mind. Kyuubi is basically imprisoned behind the seal, and the seal is independent of Naruto, I don't see how he would be able to take control. You say that Naruto is the one that keeps him in check, but considering that Naruto wasn't even aware of him for the first 12 (?) years of his life... I don't really see that. At most, Kyuubi might be able to insert a bunch of chakra and make Naruto go completely animalistic. In my opinion anyway.

But yeah, if Naruto blew up (Heh) Ranma would be toast. However, I still think that Ranma would probably kill Naruto before he was able to get to that point.
Two things you fail to consider:

1) Kyuubi has already been shown to take over in Wave Country. Kakashi himself commented the seal was cracking back then. Unless Ranma takes him out FIRST, he's going to face a super pissed!Naruto, and we ALL know how much 'control' that one has. Hell, you could say the more people Ranma would kill, the worse his situation gets, and if he were to kill someone like Jiraiya or Tsunade, God help Ranma - Naruto wouldn't CARE what he destroys, he'd only think about killing him dead. And unlike with Haku, he wouldn't pull his punch a second before punching his head clean off his shoulder.

2) While Ranma may have the power advantage, Naruto has endurance on his side. Put simply, he soaks up wounds that would kill anone else and keeps going, no mater what. And if he can survive getting slugged by Tsunade pre-timeskip without even a concussion, I somewhat doubt he's going down that easily. At the very least, Ranma's coming out of it horribly, horribly messed up, if not dead himself. Either way, it'd be brutal and neither will come out in one piece. More likely, both would die.

I also somewhat doubt Ranma could kill Tsunade. That Genesis Rebirth jutsu is ridiculous - she took a 7 feet long sword through the heart, and was none the worse for the wear. If something that's normally instant death DOESN'T kill her, what the Hell does it take to take her out?

It'd also be an interesting fight between 8-gates Lee or Gai and Ranma. Four Gates were enough to move so fast even the Sharingan had trouble keeping up, and all eight... it'd make even Ranma look slow. Of course, it's a suicide technique, but do YOU see someone surviving that fight on either side? Gaara was saved by that stupid gourd of his, or he'd have been KILLED by that attack.

Anyway, this is all supposition. To be fair, I myself created OCs who make that Ranma look like a saint. One of my Naruto fic OCs can literally rip the blood from your body or make it boil... and she gets off on making others suffer horribly. So I'm no stranger to creepy, disturbing characters. :p
 

Fatuous One

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Uhm, Kyuubi wasn't taking control, it's just that his chakra was causing Naruto to go berserk, or at least that was my thoughts on it. I don't really think that Kakashi could have judged if the seal was breaking or not considering he wasn't even sight of Naruto. He was sort of just assuming that because Naruto was using Kyuubi's chakra that something was wrong with it.

Yes, Naruto has a lot of endurance, but that doesn't mean anything when your enemy is making such deadly blows that if you even get hit once you'll likely die. You think that Naruto will be able to survive getting hacked up similar to Kodachi? Possible with the Kyuubi's regenerate powers, but unlikely to live long after Ranma gets more busy. You'll notice that Naruto mostly uses his fists instead of more deadly weapons (Actually, in the Narutoverse, kunai NEVER seemed to get used in close quarters unless someone ELSE has a kunai as well :rolleyes: ). Ranma is mostly the same, but still seems to brutalize people to extremes.

Regarding Tsunade, yeah, Ranma would have problems there, but even Tsunade with that seal would have trouble if her head got sliced off. More then likely however, Ranma wouldn't go for that immediately and get wasted. However, on the same tangent, Tsunade probably wouldn't use that seal until too late.

Uh, like I said in previous points, if they use the gates, Ranma is dead, but if he gets them before that, he'll win. Thing with so many Naruto people is that they never use their best abilities until they've tried their other options, Ranma doesn't. You'll notice that Ranma basically kills them quickly and moves on unless he has a grudge against them (in which case he kills them in an even more brutal manner, taking his time).

Actually, Ranma isn't immoral; he's just completely insane. He isn't in tune with reality, so he wouldn't get that what he is doing is all that bad.

Anyway, it would really depend on the situation. If the Naruto cast attacked him in a group, they'd win. However, if Ranma ran into them one at a time, he'd likely demolish them. Of course, this is all in my opinion. :p
 

GenocideHeart

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Fatuous One said:
Regarding Tsunade, yeah, Ranma would have problems there, but even Tsunade with that seal would have trouble if her head got sliced off. More then likely however, Ranma wouldn't go for that immediately and get wasted. However, on the same tangent, Tsunade probably wouldn't use that seal until too late.
According to the description, the Genesis Rebirth is permanently active - it's part of her illusion of youth. So that's not an issue.

(That's, of course, ignoring how both parties only need a good hit to win. You think if Tsunade seriously punches someone they'd SURVIVE? Orochimaru only lived through it because Tsunade was woefully out of shape AND he was a freak. Anybody else would've gotten their head knocked right off.)

Insane, eh? So basically he's like Akari kn my fic. Yes, she gets a perverse pleasure from making people suffer. On the other hand, you need to understand that her dabbling in the dark arts pretty much broke her sanity - wait, make that 'reduced her sanity to dust and scattered it to the winds'. Messing with Oni is not good for your psyche. Unfortunately, she failed to realize it before ending in the loony bin.

Nowadays, all she cares about is her disturbing fascination with blood - she even cuts herself just to play with it. Ranma is insane in a sort of rational way, at least. Akari is just plain insane, period. She can still tell the difference between good and evil, she just doesn't care anymore.

Yes, I made a severely fucked up character. To give you an idea, the Oni she summons actually see her as a little sister. That alone should tell you she's not the kind of person you want anywhere near you - or even on the same continent as you. :p
 

Fatuous One

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According to the description, the Genesis Rebirth is permanently active - it's part of her illusion of youth. So that's not an issue.
Uhm? Since when? According to Shizune, once the Genesis Rebirth is activated, it basically heals her at an insane rate while sacrificing her cell regeneration. If she had this on all the time then she'd die pretty fast, with it basically destroying cells for even minor things like paper cuts. Plus, I believe she can't actively use it since the seal itself has to gather a ton of chakra for a long period of time. (Tsunade or Shizune remarked that she had been gathering the chakra into it for the last ten years or so while traveling).

Heh, yeah, your Akari sounds like quite the character. Not someone I'd like to meet in a deserted alley, or at all.

I like insane cuties, but not ones who are liable to open me up just 'cause they like the pretty red colors.

EDIT: Yeah, I looked up the information in the manga -

Tsunade's wounds aren't healing like crazy at this point until she releases the seal. After which, Tsunade mentions that she's been gathering chakra for "quite some time" into the seal on her forehead. Shizune worries over the limited amount of cell multiplication.

Granted, the translation may be off, but considering the quality of the scanalator (Inane) I doubt it would be off by all that much. Is there more information on the Genesis Rebirth that I'm not aware of (Data books, etc.)?
 

GenocideHeart

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Fatuous One said:
According to the description, the Genesis Rebirth is permanently active - it's part of her illusion of youth. So that's not an issue.
Uhm? Since when? According to Shizune, once the Genesis Rebirth is activated, it basically heals her at an insane rate while sacrificing her cell regeneration. If she had this on all the time then she'd die pretty fast, with it basically destroying cells for even minor things like paper cuts. Plus, I believe she can't actively use it since the seal itself has to gather a ton of chakra for a long period of time. (Tsunade or Shizune remarked that she had been gathering the chakra into it for the last ten years or so while traveling).

Heh, yeah, your Akari sounds like quite the character. Not someone I'd like to meet in a deserted alley, or at all.

I like insane cuties, but not ones who are liable to open me up just 'cause they like the pretty red colors.

EDIT: Yeah, I looked up the information in the manga -

Tsunade's wounds aren't healing like crazy at this point until she releases the seal. After which, Tsunade mentions that she's been gathering chakra for "quite some time" into the seal on her forehead. Shizune worries over the limited amount of cell multiplication.

Granted, the translation may be off, but considering the quality of the scanalator (Inane) I doubt it would be off by all that much. Is there more information on the Genesis Rebirth that I'm not aware of (Data books, etc.)?
There's a data book that suggests Tsunade uses the Rebirth in pretty much every battle, and it makes it sound like it triggers whenever a serious fight starts. Plus the Italian translation described the scene you mention differently. And the translator for the Italian version is a Japanese who's lived in Italy for a solid 10 years working as translator, so I doubt he messed up.

Oh well.
 

Israfel

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There's a data book that suggests Tsunade uses the Rebirth in pretty much every battle, and it makes it sound like it triggers whenever a serious fight starts. Plus the Italian translation described the scene you mention differently. And the translator for the Italian version is a Japanese who's lived in Italy for a solid 10 years working as translator, so I doubt he messed up.

Oh well.
Meh there's always things lost in translation because some words and meanings just can't be properly expressed in other languages, and my impression was that Tsunade had to activate her seal to use it which is why you see the seal spread out across her forehead when she activates it. After, and only after, she activates it do her wounds even begin to show any sign of healing, if it was really on all the time then they would have started the accelerated healing immediately much like Naruto with the Kyuubi's increased healing.
 

GenocideHeart

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Meh, let's just say Naruto has more plotholes than a slice of Swiss cheese and leave it at that.
 

Israfel

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Meh, let's just say Naruto has more plotholes than a slice of Swiss cheese and leave it at that.
Hehe, true true. Anyway wasn't this a thread originally about Ranma? Whatchya say we get back on topic?
 

Fatuous One

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Yes... On that subject, I haven't been able to find the fic with Nodoka looking to off Ranma and Genma. I looked through the Penultimate Ranma Fanfic Index, but couldn't find a description that fit the image in my mind. Sorry.
 
#23
I recall reading a fic (on fanfiction.net I believe) which was a crossover with Ah! My Goddess - Hild sent Mara to stop Ranma's sepaku attempt. She did so by faking a contract that Genma had supposedly made with her granting her custody of Ranma, and so all other arrangements (the "Man Amongst Men" and engagements) were invalid. Genma denied this, but noone believed him! :p

I can't seem to find the story now, using FF.net's search page at any rate. I did find an interesting Ranma/Mara fic (not a romance) in my attempt though:

The Demon's Contract (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2693964/1/)
by Ringmaster (http://www.fanfiction.net/u/633021/)

Tired of stories where Ranma goes back in time and fixes life so everyone's happy and perfect? Try this Ranma on for size! A contract with a demon gives Ranma a second chance, and he ain't gonna stand for anyone running his life but himself!
If anyone else knows what the first fic is called, I'd appreciate a hint!

Zoron
 
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