Bleach Arrancar Ichigo-tachi

Prince Charon

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#1
Because I think it deserves its own thread.

Ura Mamoru said:
S J C said:
Jinxyspellkeeper said:
Is it bad that I still think arrancar Rukia is cute.
*looks between Orihime's hands* Yep, because Tsubaki would be out all the damn time if Orihime went to the Dark Side?.

I agree that Arrancar!Rukia's damn cute (and something about the way she's sitting just makes her cuter).

Chad, Ichigo, and Renji are about what I expected (though Chad's obviously sealing his power - The Left Arm of the Devil and the Right Arm of the Giant are suspicously absent).

Uryuu... damn it, anything to look different from Ichigo, huh? And he STILL has the damn cape? Damn it, it nearly killed him once, and anyone who's watched The Incredibles knows that capes are disasters waiting to happen. Still, I prefer this variant on the bow.
So, what could cause that group to go over to the Dark Side, and what would they do, when they got there?

As for the cape, if it were detachable, and perhaps trapped, it wouldn't be so bad.

EDIT: Image replaced.

 

zeebee1

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#2
I read that as Arrancar Ichigo-taicho. That would be an interesting idea. But as for your idea, it's just too hard. The problem is the amount of people that would have to change sides. Though Ishida and Chad wouldn't have much problems adjusting to their powers.
 

Luthorne

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#3
Wouldn't they be Vizard? At least Rukia and Renji, since a Vizard is a Shinigami that takes on Hollow characteristics, as I recall, whereas an Arrancar is a Hollow that takes on Shinigami characteristics...

Unless you're totally going to AU it, and have Rukia arrive as some sort of powerful, humanoid Hollow that had become sentient, along with Renji, instead of them ever becoming shinigami, and saving Ichigo for reasons of her own...perhaps seeing some potential in him, and slowly corrupting him and his friends into Hollows, then replicating whatever the hell it was Aizen did to turn themselves into Arrancar?

Or, alternatively, they were Holllows that Aizen tapped and made into Arrancar, and everything with Ichigo was some sort of elaborate ploy, with Ichigo eventually becoming an Arrancar himself, but winning over Rukia and Renji, as well as converting the others over time, forming his own faction...

Though Ishida, with his hatred of Hollows, would definitely be tricky to handle...can't really imagine him becoming a Hollow voluntarily.

Still, it's an interesting idea...though, Vizards would seem to be more sensible as a notion, since it would be a lot easier to work. Though, how SOul Society would handle Rukia returning as a Vizard...

Hmm, that's my two cents on the subject, at any rate. I may have misremembered some things, as it's been awhile since I read the whole thing through...
 

Waruiko

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#4
To get the feel of Ishida working right in this situation you would need to play up the fact that the Menos classes need to eat each other to advance or slip back to gillian, or some other excuse for him to fight other hollows within the system untill he hits Arrancar. He would be too likely to destroy himself otherwise.
 

zeebee1

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#5
To be an arracar they'd have to become more hollow than shinigami. And since hollows are missing part of themselves it's possible for them to lose enough of their shinigami aspect.
 

JiigarGhen

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#6
Actually, if I read the manga correctly, Shinigami cannot become Arrancar, due to the definition of an Arrancar being a Hollow that has removed its mask. Given that they have no mask to remove...yeah. I don't think it has anything to do with a balance between their hollow side, or anything like that.

Edit: Though, it might be possible if a Vizard's hollow side took over fully....and then removed its mask? I dunno.
 

Luthorne

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#7
JiigarGhen said:
Actually, if I read the manga correctly, Shinigami cannot become Arrancar, due to the definition of an Arrancar being a Hollow that has removed its mask. Given that they have no mask to remove...yeah. I don't think it has anything to do with a balance between their hollow side, or anything like that.

Edit: Though, it might be possible if a Vizard's hollow side took over fully....and then removed its mask? I dunno.
Yeah, that was my impression...and interesting speculation.

Of course, anything's impossible if sandal-hat's involved, I suppose...though it would be kind of a cheap plot device unless done well...

So, yes, the only thing I can really see is severely AUing it. Which could be interesting if done correctly, perhaps... :huh.:

Edit: Though now, I can't help but speculate what Vizard!Urahara would be like. I'm scared, personally.
 
#8
I think a Shinigami COULD become an Arrancar, if they went through Vizard first.

Because Ichigo, when training to control his Vizard nature... had a full Hollow form. One presumes that if Shirosaki had won that mental fight, he'd become that Hollow. And if that Hollow took off it's mask, it'd become an Arrancar.

It's a rather complicated way of doing though, though.
 

nick012000

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#9
Christopher Robin said:
I think a Shinigami COULD become an Arrancar, if they went through Vizard first.

Because Ichigo, when training to control his Vizard nature... had a full Hollow form. One presumes that if Shirosaki had won that mental fight, he'd become that Hollow. And if that Hollow took off it's mask, it'd become an Arrancar.

It's a rather complicated way of doing though, though.
You're overthinking things. All they need to do is be hurt badly enough to lose their powers, go through Urahara's power-regaining training, fail, and then remove their masks. Then, boom! Arrancar!Renji and Rukia.
 

Luthorne

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#10
I don't think that would work...they don't have the Chain of Fate or whatever anymore, after all. Ichigo was unique, in that he still had a body...Rukia and Renji just use gigai, so if they got pushed out, they'd just be ordinary spirits...or shinigami with sealed powers, one of the two.

Honestly, I thought the main reason it was possible for Ichigo to lose his powers was because of the bizarre way he got his powers in the first place...he was more like a pseudo Shinigami at the time. Rukia, on the other hand, just had her powers temporarily depleted, I believe.

So, I can't really imagine that working unless they got reincarnated or somehow permanently bonded back into a body...that they would have to be knocked out of, but still be connected to via the chain...which would then be cut...

Which is probably either impossible, or even more convoluted than becoming a Vizard and then a Hollow and then an Arrancar. :huh:
 

zerohour

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#11
I think the best way to do this would be to have Ichigo become a Hollow from Kisuke's training, and then be hastily converted into an Arrancar.

Given that his spiritual power converted Orihime and Chad from ordinary humans into extraordinary humans, I don't think it would be too big of a jump for his Arrancar ability to convert people into Arrancar. Probably not as easily or passively as he could convert humans, but it would solve that little logic problem...

It would probably be the course of last resort, such as Orihime being horribly wounded and pretty much certain to die, unless he did something drastic. But once the Aizen problem is solved, I could see there beinga conflict between him and SS. Rukia and Renji side with him, and as proof of their loyalty, they become Arrancar as well.
 

nick012000

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#12
Oh, and is it just me, or has becoming a hollow made Orihime's boobs shrink?

Besides, you just know that once the crew meets Nel Tu, there's going to be a conversation between the two of them on the correllation between breast size and spiritual power. ;)

A conversation that will greatly annoy Rukia.
 

Lumias

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#13
Luthorne said:
I don't think that would work...they don't have the Chain of Fate or whatever anymore, after all. Ichigo was unique, in that he still had a body...Rukia and Renji just use gigai, so if they got pushed out, they'd just be ordinary spirits...or shinigami with sealed powers, one of the two.

Honestly, I thought the main reason it was possible for Ichigo to lose his powers was because of the bizarre way he got his powers in the first place...he was more like a pseudo Shinigami at the time. Rukia, on the other hand, just had her powers temporarily depleted, I believe.

So, I can't really imagine that working unless they got reincarnated or somehow permanently bonded back into a body...that they would have to be knocked out of, but still be connected to via the chain...which would then be cut...

Which is probably either impossible, or even more convoluted than becoming a Vizard and then a Hollow and then an Arrancar. :huh:
Urahara's Gigai that got him exiled and he put Rukia in was basically turning her into a human by it absorbing her powers.

I wonder if given the time to finish it's job would it have completely turned her into a human with a chain of fate to the gigai?
 

Luthorne

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#14
Huh, now that's a disturbing possibility. Or would the gigai itself have had shinigami powers? What would a shinigami possessing a gigai with shinigami powers be like? Or a hollow? Or even just an ordinary spirit? For that matter, can Hollows inhabit gigai? Or is it only shinigami or mod souls...

Either way, gives Urahara's experiments a rather dark twist...
 

zenaku

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#15
nick012000 said:
Oh, and is it just me, or has becoming a hollow made Orihime's boobs shrink?

Besides, you just know that once the crew meets Nel Tu, there's going to be a conversation between the two of them on the correllation between breast size and spiritual power. ;)

A conversation that will greatly annoy Rukia.
Heh:) I love it. Only on TFF does bigger boobs = more power.
 

Luthorne

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#16
zenaku said:
nick012000 said:
Oh, and is it just me, or has becoming a hollow made Orihime's boobs shrink?

Besides, you just know that once the crew meets Nel Tu, there's going to be a conversation between the two of them on the correllation between breast size and spiritual power.á ;)

A conversation that will greatly annoy Rukia.
Heh:) I love it. Only on TFF does bigger boobs = more power.
Ahem.



:snigger:
 

S J C

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#17
Wasn't there a pic floating around with all the bleach girls arranged via breast size, Could someone find it, Might be interesting to observe the Reiatsu capacity of them :angel:
 
#18
Hmm...well, I'm not entirely certain, but they look about the same size to me; 'course, they were a lot smaller at the beginning of the manga, except for the cover of volume 3. Heh. Such a wonderful topic of discussion.
 
#19
S J C said:
Wasn't there a pic floating around with all the bleach girls arranged via breast size, Could someone find it, Might be interesting to observe the Reiatsu capacity of them :angel:
Yeah, there's one in the Lemon forum, which I can't link for obvious reasons. First post in a topic called "Inspiration".
 

S J C

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#20
nuclear death frog said:
S J C said:
Wasn't there a pic floating around with all the bleach girls arranged via breast size, Could someone find it, Might be interesting to observe the Reiatsu capacity of them? :angel:
Yeah, there's one in the Lemon forum, which I can't link for obvious reasons. First post in a topic called "Inspiration".
There was also one with tops on.
 
#21
Never seen it.
 

S J C

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#22
nuclear death frog said:
Never seen it.
I saw it over a Bleach Exile a while ago. Can't seem to find it now.
 

Lord Raine

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#24
Luthorne said:
JiigarGhen said:
Actually, if I read the manga correctly, Shinigami cannot become Arrancar, due to the definition of an Arrancar being a Hollow that has removed its mask. Given that they have no mask to remove...yeah. I don't think it has anything to do with a balance between their hollow side, or anything like that.

Edit: Though, it might be possible if a Vizard's hollow side took over fully....and then removed its mask? I dunno.
Yeah, that was my impression...and interesting speculation.

Of course, anything's impossible if sandal-hat's involved, I suppose...though it would be kind of a cheap plot device unless done well...

So, yes, the only thing I can really see is severely AUing it. Which could be interesting if done correctly, perhaps... :huh.:

Edit: Though now, I can't help but speculate what Vizard!Urahara would be like. I'm scared, personally.
Actually, I'd be surprised if he wasn't a Vaizard. Remember, he had to test the Hogykou to make sure it worked properly, and going by his past exploits, he probably would have tested it on himself.

Soo. . . If he really did create an operational device that blurrs the line between Hollow and shinigami (and we know he did), then odds are he's got Hollow powers of his own. Even if he doesn't actually have a mask, he would still technically be a Vaizard, as he's a shinigami that acquired Hollow powers.

Also, you need to keep in mind that Urahara recognized what Ichigo was when he came out of the pit. Ururu, Jinta, and Tessai had no idea what had happened. By their dialogue, they had never even heard of a shinigami wearing a Hollow mask, let alone seen one before. By contrast, Urahara actually looked pleased, like he had expected Ichigo to come out of there wearing a mask and holding a Zanpakuto.

So not only do I think Urahara is a Vaizard himself, but I think he set Ichigo up to become a Vaizard as well, and did so long before we ever began to understand exactly what the mask represented, or how significant it would become later on.

Because you know it would be awesome if somewhere down the line, he just whipped out a mask and starting PWNing people.

"W-WHAT THE HELL!?"

"Oh? Didn't I mention I have a mask too? Odd. I could have sworn I said something. . ."

Yeah. That's totally Urahara.

Wasn't there a pic floating around with all the bleach girls arranged via breast size, Could someone find it, Might be interesting to observe the Reiatsu capacity of them
Yeah. I've got it.

Actually, I disagree with the image. I think Kukaku has a larger bust than Matsumoto, but Matsumoto is ranked No 1 and Kukaku No 2.

That's just me, though.
 

elric

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#25
If Kisuske was a Vizard he could have helped Ichigo master his powers.
 
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