Nasuverse Beast's Lair offline?

[Cherry_lover]

Also, blame mike.

Mike? Huh. I was thinking it would be one of the lolicon members finally going too far.

Nah, their ToS say that we're not allowed porn, we had porn, and too much to plausibly remove.

Then, because we knew the forum was going to die, several people started crawling the site to back it up, and another load asked for PM dumps, so they cut the site before we could get it all, because they're assholes and don't like people keeping their data and moving on to another host.

I post most of my current stuff here. Poor Black Princesses is dead (and I'm in the process of trying to plot a revamp of it that is MORE BETTER) and Steel and Cherry Blossoms is currently being written.

I think I have a backup of Black Princesses if you don't. Assuming I can get the data of my laptop hard drive which just died, that is....

Yeah, it's not a great day....

Great, now I'll never find out if that Flesh and Fantasy thing will actually get anything written....shit!

Lantz backed up the whole thread (yes, all 400 plus pages...) before the forum went down. So, provided we get a new host which allows it, it will still be going.

That Fate/Phantom of Inferno thing's gone too!

Try the google cache.

Search for cache:nrvnqsr.proboards.com +"action=print" followed by whatever you want to find. With luck it'll be there.

I got quite a few of the fanfic threads that way, but my laptop just died so I don't know if I'll be able to access them (although, honestly, if I can't then not being able to back up BL is the least of my worries...).

 

[Elf]

I think I have a backup of Black Princesses if you don't. Assuming I can get the data of my laptop hard drive which just died, that is....

Yeah, it's not a great day....

Don't sweat it. It's on my old laptop's hardrive, posted on Live Journal and here. Still, thanks the same Mike. I write everything in Word before posting it. I write nothing except for Kerian's omakes in the actual threads themselves.

Oh!

Roadbuster pretty much got a full backup.

Isn't my husband wonderful?

Also, poor Evo's in Japan. He's fine though, last I heard he was stuck at his job.

 

[Cherry_lover]

Don't sweat it.? It's on my old laptop's hardrive, posted on Live Journal and here.? Still, thanks the same Mike.? I write everything in Word before posting it.? I write nothing except for Kerian's omakes in the actual threads themselves.

Yeah, I thought that might be the case. Just thought I'd offer just in case.

Oh!

Roadbuster pretty much got a full backup.

Isn't my husband wonderful?

Ah, good.

I tried, but I didn't get all that much, seemingly, because I made a bit of a fuck-up of the settings. Lantz got a backup too, I think (at least 3 GB worth), so between the two they should hopefully have about everything.

Also, poor Evo's in Japan.

Yeah....

He's fine though, last I heard he was stuck at his job.

Well, that's good to hear, anyway.

 

[Elf]

He's also contacted proboard's abuse department.

I've been tracking that here: <a href='http://support.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=support&action=display&thread=384527' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://support.proboards.com/index.cgi?boa...y&thread=384527</a>

 

[ItsaRandomUsername]

Really? Which thread is it the Evo's been posting in?

And good to hear that shit's been backed up.

IF IT HADN'T BEEN...


EDIT: Never mind. Found it.

 

[Elf]

Just that mod seems to be a giant douche cock.

 

[lask]

I can't remember the title, but there was a pretty neat fic where a young Emiya ended up having an accident with the Kaleidostick and ended up as Rin's apprentice. I'm fine searching to see if it's archived on wayback machine and the like, I just don't have a title to search for.

 

[ItsaRandomUsername]

I can't remember the title, but there was a pretty neat fic where a young Emiya ended up having an accident with the Kaleidostick and ended up as Rin's apprentice. I'm fine searching to see if it's archived on wayback machine and the like, I just don't have a title to search for.

F/SN Prismatic Chaos

 

[Cherry_lover]

Just that mod seems to be a giant douche cock.

Well, I recall people saying that they have a history of taking forums offline before they can back up their data, and given our obvious reluctance to comply they had little incentive not to, so I'm not really shocked.

I'd like to at least get my PMs, though....

I can't remember the title, but there was a pretty neat fic where a young Emiya ended up having an accident with the Kaleidostick and ended up as Rin's apprentice. I'm fine searching to see if it's archived on wayback machine and the like, I just don't have a title to search for.

The wayback machine doesn't seem to archive Proboards. Google cache might have it, though, and Elf says that most of the forum is backed up.

F/SN Prismatic Chaos

Hmm, I definitely recall google having that one. I did download it, but my laptop just stopped working, so....

 

[lask]

Google has the fist page only. Damnit!

 

[Cherry_lover]

Google has the fist page only. Damnit!

Add "action=print" to the search list, and it will give you the printable version, which shows the whole fic in one page.

 

[lask]

Must be doing something wrong, because that doesn't help.

 

[jwang]

As some of you may already know, EvoSpace was served with a Terms of Service (ToS) violation by Proboards earlier this week due to adult content on the forums. A short list of infringing examples was given. Because the size of the forums, however, the Proboards admin allowed EvoSpace to specify a timeframe for when he can make the board compliant, or to organize a move to a different host.

Unfortunately, several people voiced opinions in the thread that advocated willfully defying the ToS and stalling for time. This prompted a Proboards admin to deliver an ultimatum: become ToS compliant immediately, or have the site terminated. A hurried attempt to backup the forums using automated programs, such as HTTrack (essentially bots), dramatically increased the server and bandwidth load on Proboards, prompting them to shut down the forums entirely.

Many forumites moved to the #beastslair IRC channel to get together, and forming the #blrefugees channel to figure out their next move. A bomb threat was made against Proboards headquarters was made (initially in jest, but turned more serious by others); a Proboards admin was in the channel at the time and notified EvoSpace of this, posturing that legal action may result of this sort of behavior continues.

Extensive discussions took place in #beastslair on possible hosts that would allow adult content but still be affordable. Several were looked at, donations were offered for at least the initial months. In the end, EvoSpace reached an agreement with the owner of imouto.org, devoc. devoc would allow Beast's Lair to host their forums on his servers, free of charge.

EvoSpace has currently setup the PHP and MySQL on the new host and will be using a phpBB-based forum.

Though nothing has been set up yet, it's current address is <a href='http://66.90.109.41/nrvnqsr.us.to/data/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://66.90.109.41/nrvnqsr.us.to/data/</a>.

What happened, why the grace period was cut short, and the current status on things. Extremist actions rarely work well, as demonstrated here.

 

[Avider]

Wouldn't it have been nice if the offending materials were, say, separated in another section of the forum that could have been quickly backed and then deleted?









Why, this all sounds very familiar for some reasons. :snigger:

 

[Kieran]

@Elf- Kieran's and your fics are the ones that I have been reading and following, so if either of you set down roots someplace to repost/continue posting things (aside from these boards) could you post links/notifications?

Well, the good news is that I still have (and am still working on) all my stuff - I'm just waiting for notification as to whether or not our godlike mods have managed to get everything set up for us, and then I can figure out how much they managed to save.

But as I am a certified egomaniac, you can be assured that one way or another, I will find some method of keeping my readers - you guys are the only socialising I do!

. . . I'd actually forgotten I even had an account here - lucky I remembered my password.

 

[Cherry_lover]

As some of you may already know, EvoSpace was served with a Terms of Service (ToS) violation by Proboards earlier this week due to adult content on the forums. A short list of infringing examples was given. Because the size of the forums, however, the Proboards admin allowed EvoSpace to specify a timeframe for when he can make the board compliant, or to organize a move to a different host.

Unfortunately, several people voiced opinions in the thread that advocated willfully defying the ToS and stalling for time. This prompted a Proboards admin to deliver an ultimatum: become ToS compliant immediately, or have the site terminated. A hurried attempt to backup the forums using automated programs, such as HTTrack (essentially bots), dramatically increased the server and bandwidth load on Proboards, prompting them to shut down the forums entirely.

Many forumites moved to the #beastslair IRC channel to get together, and forming the #blrefugees channel to figure out their next move. A bomb threat was made against Proboards headquarters was made (initially in jest, but turned more serious by others); a Proboards admin was in the channel at the time and notified EvoSpace of this, posturing that legal action may result of this sort of behavior continues.

Extensive discussions took place in #beastslair on possible hosts that would allow adult content but still be affordable. Several were looked at, donations were offered for at least the initial months. In the end, EvoSpace reached an agreement with the owner of imouto.org, devoc. devoc would allow Beast's Lair to host their forums on his servers, free of charge.

EvoSpace has currently setup the PHP and MySQL on the new host and will be using a phpBB-based forum.

Though nothing has been set up yet, it's current address is <a href='http://66.90.109.41/nrvnqsr.us.to/data/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://66.90.109.41/nrvnqsr.us.to/data/</a>.

What happened, why the grace period was cut short, and the current status on things. Extremist actions rarely work well, as demonstrated here.

Hmm, where did you get this info from?

And, yeah, that happened, although why the hell ProBoards admins felt that they should spy on our fucking IRC chat I do not know, and the "bomb threat" bit is just them being retards and taking things said in a forum we assumed was private (or, at least, had no ProBoards admins present) way out of context. If someone actually wanted to make a genuine bomb threat, do you honestly think they'd have done it in an IRC chat where no-one but BL members were thought to be watching?

Also, at no point did they say "we want to give you time to move to another site". They offered to give Evo time to comply, yes, but the minute it became clear that we intended to move elsewhere instead, they ceased to be even remotely co-operative.

Wouldn't it have been nice if the offending materials were, say, separated in another section of the forum that could have been quickly backed and then deleted?









Why, this all sounds very familiar for some reasons.

They never found all of the "offending materials", though. Plus, like I said in that argument, links to said section are not an issue once the section itself has gone down. They just become dead links, and deak links aren't a ToS breach. I can accept the idea of keeping lemon stuff in the lemon section, but the statement that you should not link to that section is just plain retarded. Doing so only violates the ToS in so far as the section itself does so, and once the section is removed there is no more ToS violation.

And, in any case, what the fuck is the point of having that ability if we have no mods around to act on it if it does happen?

Well, the good news is that I still have (and am still working on) all my stuff - I'm just waiting for notification as to whether or not our godlike mods have managed to get everything set up for us, and then I can figure out how much they managed to save.

I believe RB saved most if not all of the forum.

 

[jwang]

I got the info from the link provided on IRC. It was listed as Forum Move Info under Topic. And Kieran, didn't know you were a member here already. Glad to know that all of Trinity is still alive and kicking!

Edit: Wow, yeah, just got a link to the log that prompted the bomb threat cutoff schtick. Taken waaaaaay out of context and way too seriously. Quite frankly, if someone had the materials and capabilities to build a nuke, Homeland Security and other intelligence agencies would probably be on them like white on rice as soon as they post something remotely threatening. Big Brother's always watching, even if he says he isn't...

For those of you who are interested in what the exact dialogue is, <a href='http://www.blackss.org/tos.txt' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.blackss.org/tos.txt</a>

 

[Tsuki_CB]

A belated welcome to all Beast Lair forumites, of which i was still just a lurker, May your stay be comfortable as you bask in the decaying ruins of the utopia that was TFF. If you plan to go exploring I recommend arming yourself. With god having abandoned us and no appointed sheriffs the trolls have grown fat and decadent here.

 

[Deathwings]

Give credits where credits is due : TFF is nowhere near as bad as it should be considering the complete absence of mods. It's actually impressive in a way. :sisi:

 

[Cherry_lover]

Edit: Wow, yeah, just got a link to the log that prompted the bomb threat cutoff schtick. Taken waaaaaay out of context and way too seriously.

Actually, the "bomb threat" had nothing to do with being cut-off. We were cut off because we started crawling the site for backups (which, given that RB seems to have gotten the lot, seems to have been worth it), and the "bomb threat" came after that (although I imagine that it hasn't helped any case we may have had for regaining access).

Although, in hindsight, it was perhaps a little stupid. I just didn't expect them to have the time or will to snoop on our IRC chats....

Quite frankly, if someone had the materials and capabilities to build a nuke, Homeland Security and other intelligence agencies would probably be on them like white on rice as soon as they post something remotely threatening. Big Brother's always watching, even if he says he isn't...

Yeah, not to mention that I live in Britain, so I couldn't do it even if I wanted to (which I don't, in case ProBoards are watching here too, or Googling their name to find anyone daring to criticise them so they can try to shut them up with ridiculously overblown scare tactics...).

 

[Delta Green Friendly]

Give credits where credits is due : TFF is nowhere near as bad as it should be considering the complete absence of mods. It's actually impressive in a way. :sisi:

Hmm. Then again, we did use to have epic debates between certain members. It's all gone now, beyond the hills, into shadow.

 

[Tsuki_CB]

You know I was probably one of last people Hawk granted lemon access to? I think so anyway.

 

[ttestagr]

Proboards does deserve a nice fuck you denial of service attack though.

 

[Delta Green Friendly]

You know I was probably one of last people Hawk granted lemon access to? I think so anyway.

I was probably one of the last bunch as well. I joined scarcely two weeks after you.

 

[Cherry_lover]

Proboards does deserve a nice fuck you denial of service attack though.

Yeah, they probably do, but I don't think it's worth the effort, given how little damage we could realistically do and how hard they'd probably come down on us for trying.

Honestly, if you want to get back at them, the best way is via word of mouth. Just point out to everyone what assholes they are and ensure that everyone who is signing up for a forum thinks twice before picking them.

If you feel like it, you could also go <a href='http://www.forum-software.org/proboards/user-opinion' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>here</a> and vote them down. There are only 100 or so votes.