Nasuverse Blasphemy!!

[The Eromancer]

CROSSOVER.

I know its not to be taken lightly especially when it comes to such hard and fast rule-mongering universes such as Type-moon.

However I couldn't help notice something from one particular anime that may fit just a little too well with type-moon.

Code Geass.

The first thing that made me think of a crossover is of course the Code Geass' "Sword of Akasha". Akasha as Code Geass puts is very similar to Type-moon's Akasha I'd even go so far to say they may be the SAME THING. "Everyone comes from Akasha and everyone returns to it" sounds awefuly familiar doesn't it?

Then there's those with "Codes" and Geass. Geass can only be aquired by those with a Code, those with a code have true individuality from Akasha and since they are no longer apart of the world they can not die. They do not age, can recover from any injury, they are well and truly immortal. Kinda like Ceil only I'm not too sure they can come back after getting incinerated.

 

[nick012000]

Lelouch as Rider when Sakura wishes for a 'big brother' to protect her during the summoning?

 

[Amodelsino]

Kinda like Ceil only I'm not too sure they can come back after getting incinerated.

C.C.'s entire body was crushed into paste by water pressure after the Gawain went down at the end of Season 1, and she just reformed it at the shore. Somehow I think a Code Bearer could survive a burning.

If anything I'd say it's superior to Ceil's, as Code Bearers can obviously control whether they feel pain or not (Chuckie got shot six times and didn't even flinch), and that's on top of gaining weird mind powers through The Sword of Akasha.

I also saw the massive similarities after R2 21, but dismissed writing a crossover. It would honestly be too much work for too little pay off. It would take a lot of pre-planning just to make such a fic not suck horribly, simply because the themes and styles of the two series are so different.

Lelouch as Rider when Sakura wishes for a 'big brother' to protect her during the summoning?

Oh yes, that makes perfect sense. I mean it's not like her current 'big brother' periodically rapes her or anything. <_<

Besides, who says he would have to be a Servant (or a Master for that matter)?

 

[The Eromancer]

Heh all you would need for a story is for Lelouch to get caught up in a grail war, instead of JUST running into C.C. and the Shinjuku gheto is perfect for that by all accounts.

Unfortunetly the grail was destroyed... or was it? Perhaps it reformed with time?

Hmmm, Lelouch has the "power of Kings" I'm thinking, if he did participate in a Grail War he'd summon Gilgamesh.

 

[nick012000]

I dunno. It's not like there aren't methods of travelling between universes in the Nasuverse, and Lelouch is probably dead, so he might be able to be summoned.

Amodelsino: A "real" big brother to protect her from the "brother" that doesn't act like one, obviously.

 

[grant]

The ideas interesting, but I have no idea how it could be done. You'd need to be able to create a fic that's really just there to cross CG and FSN, but do it in a way where the plot justifies it.

 

[Azure]

The Throne of heroes exists outside of any time line... right? So having Lelouch as a Rider is not that strange.

If anything you could make him a Counter Guardian, having made a pact with the during some point in the series.

Heck, some else had said it in another forum, but an idea could be that Lelouch made a pact for the world when he Geass-ed it.

 

[ZeroForever]

Hmm fun idea, but as mentioned the theme's and concepts of the series differ so much that it would take alot of concept screwing to work the 2 together.

My real question would be why Rider class (yes i know he pilots a knightmare frame... though his skills aren't impressive overall compared to like 90% of the other main cast that and a mecha i don't think would really fit in the bill of noble phantasm)

If anything knightmare of nun version of Lulu would work better as a servant as that version could face/beat knightmare frames bare handed.

 

[atree]

I wrote a snippet for a CG/FSN cross sometime back, and it's pretty much nothing beyond "Rin summons Lelouch." I feel like posting it, but be warned that it has no significance at all (I also made up alot of stuff in reagrds to the rituals).

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I ask of you: are you my Master?

He was not what she expected; what she expected, she wasnt sure, but it certainly wasnt this black-haired youth with the etiquette of a king.

I am Rin Tohsaka, magus of the Tohsaka family and magi in the 5th Holy Grail War, she said. The identity of the command mantras on our hands is proof of our bond Master and Servant. From this moment on, we are bound together as one: your pain is my pain; your joy, mine. We shall shed blood together. We shall shed tears together. We shall risk our lives for each other in this war to win the Holy Grail and force all to acknowledge the Tohsaka name.

And now, the critical question:

By my status as Master, what is your identity?

He smiled, and his emotions were masked behind that mask of servile amusement.

I am Lelouch vi Brittania, eleventh prince of the Brittanian Imperial family. To the world, I am Chairman of the United League of Nations and 99th Emperor of the Holy Brittanian Empire. To Japan, I am Zero of the Black Knights and King of the Elevens. My allies call me the Man of Miracles; my enemies, the Black Prince. You may call me Archer.

Thats a lot of titles, Rin thought, impressed. Prince? Emperor? Man of Miracles wait, Archer?

ServantArcher? She tasted the name on her tongue.

Yes, my Lady?

Ah, so he was only Archer class after allwhat a disappointment.

Acridness filled her mouth. She swallowed the feeling down and tried not to let her disappointment show as she observed her new Servant. He was young, she was surprised to see, perhaps no older than herself, and clearly foreign despite his flawless Japanese. Physically, he was unassuming tall but rather skinny and looked like he had never seen a battlefield his whole life. On the other hand, he was very handsome and well-proportioned, as pretty Rin herself, had her pride allowed her to make such a distinction. He wore a set of ornate white-and-gold robes that draped around his body and almost dragged along the floor. They looked more expensive than all her best formal dresses put together. They also looked utterly useless for combat. She wondered how he could walk in those things.

Archer the name was bitter.

Yes, my Lady? he repeated, bowing. Every inch of his appearance screamed of royalty.

What are your abilities? she snapped, unable to keep the harshness from her tone. Noble Phantasms, strengths, weaknesses, past lifeeverything.

That damnable smile was on his face again.

Youre in quite a rush, he said. I would like nothing better than to tell you what Im capable of, but shouldnt we perhaps first find a more comfortable place to talk? He gestured around him at the sparse room, empty except the crimson pentagram painted on the floor. There were no chairs, no tables, and would not pass the standards of living in a prison. The only source of illumination came from a dim bulb attached to the ceiling, constantly flickering like a firefly. Although his new Master showed every sign of a rich upbringing, he hoped that she wasnt some poverty-stricken peasant playing at Mage.

Follow me, then, Rin snapped, walking out. He wondered why she was so irritated surely he hadnt done something wrong in the five minutes theyve meet?

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[nick012000]

Heh.

The initial Lancer vs. Archer fight. Lancer has the power to instakill. Lelouch has the Code, so he can't die. Well, not permanently, anyway.

So, Lancer kills him. Archer comes back to life. Over and over and over...

 

[Shaderic]

It's like a ridiculously broken version of Berserker's ... what was that gave him those extra lives anyway? I can't remember. Was it the Nine Lives, or is that something else?

 

[Croaker]

It's like a ridiculously broken version of Berserker's ... what was that gave him those extra lives anyway? I can't remember. Was it the Nine Lives, or is that something else?

God Hand
One life for each of his Labors.

Apparently Nine Lives was the skill he used to kill the Hydra.

 

[Vascudo]

Heh.

The initial Lancer vs. Archer fight. Lancer has the power to instakill. Lelouch has the Code, so he can't die. Well, not permanently, anyway.

So, Lancer kills him. Archer comes back to life. Over and over and over...

Would his geass not be more fitting?
It would be the most hax mystic eyes EVER.

Although if he had both, everyone would be screwed.

 

[Amodelsino]

Lelouch has the Code, so he can't die. Well, not permanently, anyway.

So, Lancer kills him. Archer comes back to life. Over and over and over...

Not quite. Once you die the first time and the Code activates, you can't be killed by anything (remember Chuckie getting shot 6 times after standing up, and it doing absolutely nothing? That's because after he died the Code he took activated).

Once you get a Code, you won't be dying until you give it to a Geass user.

 

[toraneko]

But if this Lelouch has the Code, he can't have ever died. So, unless he's got a deal with the World, a la Saber, he can't be a Servant.

 

[Amodelsino]

But if this Lelouch has the Code, he can't have ever died. So, unless he's got a deal with the World, a la Saber, he can't be a Servant.

Well I don't see how he could have become a Heroic Spirit in the traditional sense within 40 years, even as Zero or The Demon King. So he would have to have some sort of contract to become a servant anyway.

Personally, I don't see how he could become a servant in the canon timeline at all without some serious Weird Shit?, considering he's from a completely alternate universe.

 

[ZeroForever]

hmm well as mentioned if they go with the any/all variation of time lines then one would eventually crop up with the correct context that could become a servant.
The issue would be more of creating a version that would make sense in respect to the events that transpired in the CG universe while still making it plausible option.

Also as noted a post code version of him would be retard as a noble phantasm ability that makes you immortal in every respect would be broken (not even getting to the factor that he could then give geass to various people and make a army of broken ability users to win the war for him)


honestly i would like to see a version of him, where in taking in the sins/evil of all mankind/the world, due to his geass after death he unexpected ends up literially doing so as well and becomes a variation of Avenger. This could be a interest fic as it could be like ataraxia using a combination of both type moon and CG characters in a time/dimension loop.

 

[Azure]

.... what about his Knightmare Frames, Gwain or Shinkirou? Either one would make awesome Noble Phantasms... plus the ability of Geass....

I picture Lelouch as more like a Rider, having horrible stats, but having both the Abilities (Mystic Eyes) and Noble Phantasms that are horribly powerful.

He would probably fight in the war Geasing people with his Mystic Eyes and going for the Masters themselves while managing to trick and hold servants in some plot or another.

 

[AbyssalDaemon]

Heh.

The initial Lancer vs. Archer fight. Lancer has the power to instakill. Lelouch has the Code, so he can't die. Well, not permanently, anyway.

So, Lancer kills him. Archer comes back to life. Over and over and over...

Would his geass not be more fitting?
It would be the most hax mystic eyes EVER.

Although if he had both, everyone would be screwed.

Just noticed this thread; anyhow not quite. Keep in mind that the Nasuverse literally has a ton of weapons lying around that happen to be capable of permanently putting Lelouch down even with the type of immortality provided by a code and at least a few of the Servants have some resistance against things like a Geass.

If anything I would think that Lulu's going to need to have both if he's to have a chance at surviving, much less winning given some of problems facing him. Physically speaking he's pathetic, especially for a Heroic Spirit, to the point that several of the _masters_ have a good chance of taking him out before he'd be able to use the Geass. And while he is quite brilliant he's going to working from something of a disadvantage in what he happens to know when compared to most of the other Servants; combined with a rather bad tendency at being overly confident in his skills at times.

As for Lelouch's Noble Phantasms I would suspect that at least one would be somewhat similar to that of Iskander's in that he'd probably be able to summon Jeremiah, Kallen, and Suzaku to him.

 

[nick012000]

Heh.

The initial Lancer vs. Archer fight. Lancer has the power to instakill. Lelouch has the Code, so he can't die. Well, not permanently, anyway.

So, Lancer kills him. Archer comes back to life. Over and over and over...

Would his geass not be more fitting?
It would be the most hax mystic eyes EVER.

Although if he had both, everyone would be screwed.

Just noticed this thread; anyhow not quite. Keep in mind that the Nasuverse literally has a ton of weapons lying around that happen to be capable of permanently putting Lelouch down even with the type of immortality provided by a code and at least a few of the Servants have some resistance against things like a Geass.

If anything I would think that Lulu's going to need to have both if he's to have a chance at surviving, much less winning given some of problems facing him. Physically speaking he's pathetic, especially for a Heroic Spirit, to the point that several of the _masters_ have a good chance of taking him out before he'd be able to use the Geass. And while he is quite brilliant he's going to working from something of a disadvantage in what he happens to know when compared to most of the other Servants; combined with a rather bad tendency at being overly confident in his skills at times.

As for Lelouch's Noble Phantasms I would suspect that at least one would be somewhat similar to that of Iskander's in that he'd probably be able to summon Jeremiah, Kallen, and Suzaku to him.

Super Cyborg Orange-Kun?

 

[Tsuki_CB]

I say I need another snippet, that was pretty high on the kick ass o meter.