Bleach Bleach A.A. (After Aizen)

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warai_kitsune

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I was thinking we should open up a topic for discussing what happens after the current arc. The biggest question as I see it is whether or not Aizen's going to be dealt with or not. If so, then what? If not, what's he going to do next, or what's going to happen next while they wait to deal with his next move?

The laws of Shonen manga demand that Aizen be dealt with despite having every conceivable advantage, but then what? Will he die, or will they pull a rehash of the end of the Soul Society arc and have him rescued by the Vasto Lorde (assuming that none of the big three are vasto lorde already). If he DOES die, then what? Will they just end Bleach there, or will they have a new enemy? Will they have to deal with the Vasto Lorde, Hell, or since Yamamoto is probably going to try to follow through with demanding Orihime's punishment, are they going to have civil war in soul society?

Comments? Predictions?
 
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railhazard

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If the story doesn't end with Aizen's defeat, there will be another Big Bad to take his place.

Such is the rule of Shonen.
 
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Steven Viper

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warai_kitsune said:
I was thinking we should open up a topic for discussing what happens after the current arc. The biggest question as I see it is whether or not Aizen's going to be dealt with or not. If so, then what? If not, what's he going to do next, or what's going to happen next while they wait to deal with his next move?

The laws of Shonen manga demand that Aizen be dealt with despite having every conceivable advantage, but then what? Will he die, or will they pull a rehash of the end of the Soul Society arc and have him rescued by the Vasto Lorde (assuming that none of the big three are vasto lorde already). If he DOES die, then what? Will they just end Bleach there, or will they have a new enemy? Will they have to deal with the Vasto Lorde, Hell, or since Yamamoto is probably going to try to follow through with demanding Orihime's punishment, are they going to have civil war in soul society?

Comments? Predictions?
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Aizen's just the cover villain, the real one's in the shadow's... :ph43r:
 
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S J C

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Steven Viper said:
warai_kitsune said:
I was thinking we should open up a topic for discussing what happens after the current arc.? The biggest question as I see it is whether or not Aizen's going to be dealt with or not.? If so, then what?? If not, what's he going to do next, or what's going to happen next while they wait to deal with his next move?

The laws of Shonen manga demand that Aizen be dealt with despite having every conceivable advantage, but then what?? Will he die, or will they pull a rehash of the end of the Soul Society arc and have him rescued by the Vasto Lorde (assuming that none of the big three are vasto lorde already).? If he DOES die, then what?? Will they just end Bleach there, or will they have a new enemy?? Will they have to deal with the Vasto Lorde, Hell, or since Yamamoto is probably going to try to follow through with demanding Orihime's punishment, are they going to have civil war in soul society?

Comments?? Predictions?
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Aizen's just the cover villain, the real one's in the shadow's... :ph43r:
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All fear Dark Overlord Hanatar?. And his minion Aizen, And 2nd and 3rd in command. Unohana and Kotetsu.
 
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jaredstar

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i have long held the opinion that if bleach continues beyond Aizen that Yamamoto is going to go after ichigo and the others
 
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DhampyrX2

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I figure Yamamoto will go after Ichigo and the Vizards making him the big bad for the next arc. That will probably be where we get to see just how bad ass Isshin can be as he defends his kids, too.

And for some reason I still think Urahara will end up being the real mastermind behind everything. The kind of mastermind that gets away with it too, because he has the sense to refrain from bragging about his efforts.
 
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jaredstar

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what do you think the odds are off Ichigo and his crew joining forces with the surviving Arrancar if something like that happens.


That would be interesting the Ryoka, the Vizard's , the Arrancar, his and maybe ishida's dads and what ever Shinigami that choose to side with him (Rukia at the very least)


heck i wouldn't be too surprised if Kenpachi and the rest of the 11th division joined him ( After a epic rematch)
 
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grant

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I find it very unlikely that Yamamoto would do anything to them. To start, he has to rebuild SS's defenses, find decent captains to replace the traitors, deal with the problems of morale following a massive defection, and figure out what to do with SS's government after the 46 were killed. To decide to go after another faction of extremely powerful beings (all of whom were vice-captain and captain level before they became Visored) at the same time sounds rather incompetent. Of course there's nothing to say that the Visored won't go after SS, but I can't see the shinigami attacking.

I don't pretend to understand the mangaka's mind, but following the trend I'd think that the next arc (which I assume there will be) will either focus on Ichigo's changes, Hell, and/or the king.
 
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the DragonBard

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I think that those will be the 'next' arch, after the one dealing with the Vastos.
 
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Lord Raine

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Tite's pattern thus far has had every Big Bad right under our noses, and we simply didn't see it.

So I feel it's safe to say that if there is a next mega-arc and a villian to go with it, we've already met the person in question.
 
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zeebee1

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Yamamato has been showing signs that he won't go after Ichigo or the others. He has more dimensions than that. But the new 46 could be a problem. They could easily be the new enemy. A bunch of old fogeys who finally cause a division between the divisions.
 
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windstorm

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I get the feeling that this supposed Royal Family and King of Spirits have something major to do with Aizen's past. It might be a significant part of his motivation for wanting to get the key he needs all the sous from Karakura to make. The guy has some form of unfinished business with the Royal Family and decided to get to them at all costs.

There is also a bit to be explained in why Tousen joined Aizen when he constantly talks about peace and the path with the least bloodshed even after having left Soul Society. You'd think that allowing a bunch of hollows to overrun Soul Society and destroying a couple thousand souls to create a key would go against the guy's rhetoric. There would have to be some kind of bigger reason there as to why Tousen joined the guy.

With Gin, who knows? He's even harder to read than Aizen's motives are. The guy might just be crazy and decided to throw his lot in with Aizen for no reason or he might actually have some motive of his own.

There are a couple of issues that could really stand to be addressed in Soul Society and how it is currently run now. All of the junk in the anime and movies gives a lot of amo to work with if you include it, things like political incompetence and an outdated system favoring the nobility too much and discrimination (ie Bount, Kusaka and Toushiro having the same zanpaktou, general superiority complex the shinigami particularly nobility have etc). The biggest one that comes to mind in the whole series is the condition of the souls in Rukongai. Many in the lower districts get pretty sucky living conditions. The other is the whole 'going to a better place' line the shinigami likely give the souls half the time. They aren't in a better place if they end up in district 80 or something like that.
 
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lord geryon

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I think the big bads will be the Vizard.

Shinji more or less says he hates Aizen and SS equally. And remember, they left to do something a while ago, but they've not turned up on either battlefield yet. Think it's possible they're doing something back in SS since all the Captains and Vice Captains are preoccupied?
 
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Lord Raine

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And remember, they left to do something a while ago, but they've not turned up on either battlefield yet.
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I've been wondering about that. Either the Vaizards are slow as fuck, and are still doing their slow-motion walk out into the blinding sunlight, or they're up to something elsewhere.

Because, you know. We may not know where they were going, but the really should have been there by now, wherever 'there' is. Since they aren't anywhere that we've seen. . . that means they're somewhere we haven't seen recently. Somewhere like Soul Society.
 
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the DragonBard

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Lord Raine said:
Tite's pattern thus far has had every Big Bad right under our noses, and we simply didn't see it.

So I feel it's safe to say that if there is a next mega-arc and a villian to go with it, we've already met the person in question.
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Pattern?

Only time he's pulled that is with Aizen, or is there a manga he's done I don't recall?
 
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Belgarion213

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Well Urahara counts to, we see him a couple times in the early arc as a bit of an eccentric shopkeeper who sells stuff to Rukia...then we find out that he was there the first night Rukia gave her powers to Icgigo, got her the body that would slowly destroy spirit power and hid the orb in it, and then turned out to be a badass Shinigami Captain instead of a shopkeeper.

Not really the 'villian' (though a bit debatable) but he was sure as hell the mastermind of the first arc...

Granted we find these out in differing points in later arcs but it still counts.
 
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SEG-CISR

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So everyone comes back from beating Aizen to a pulp, ready for a beer or something and then-

Woah

Soul Society is a crater.

It'd be utter mindfuck for most everyone to find out the Vaizards decided Aizen wasn't a threat anymore and took out SS when most of its fighters were out.

Also, wasn't there a Vaizard in the Zero Division? He could play a part in it.
 
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grant

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One captain retired from her position and joined the division during the pendulum flashback, but none of the Visored are members of it.

That might explain why the Visored haven't intervened yet, two other possibilities are that they're still in Karakura SS side and are having trouble reaching the battle or that they're waiting for both sides to wipe each other out (which actually might be the smartest thing they could do).
 
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calonderiel

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While it is possible that the Vizards will become the new villains, SS going after everyone with spiritual powers that isnt a full shinigami is canon. The Bounts, the Quincy, the Vizards (when they were just made),... At this point, you could say that attempted genocide is just SS standard meet'n'greet protocol.
 
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nick012000

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I think Windstorm's got it mostly right; the next Big Bad will be the King of Soul Society, along with the 0th Squad. I think Aizen's going to be this arc's Byakuya, with Grimmjow and/or Ulquorria being this arc's Renji.

Most likely, after the dust is all settled, they'll turn up to go after the Vizards, Arrancar, and Isshin (who's probably a deserter from them). Possibly Isshin's family and Ichigo's freinds. If Yamamato's still alive, he might try to stop them, and get executed for his trouble.

I'm not sure which side Zaraki will join. Probably Ichigo. I think that if he does, Ikkaku and Yamachika will follow, and have no qualms about revealing their true power. Yamachika might even attain Bankai at the most dramatically appropriate moment, after he publically reveals his true Shikai.
 
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Belgarion213

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calonderiel said:
While it is possible that the Vizards will become the new villains, SS going after everyone with spiritual powers that isnt a full shinigami is canon. The Bounts, the Quincy, the Vizards (when they were just made),... At this point, you could say that attempted genocide is just SS standard meet'n'greet protocol.
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Um...Boutns are only Anime, not manga. Quincy were killed apparently because their power was threatening to destroy the world . Cant speak for the Vizards though...
 
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nick012000

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Oh, and I predict that Urahara will open up a portal for Ichigo and his nakama to assult the King's dimension to rescue the girl the King's followers abduct. Maybe Neliel or Tatsuki; Rukia and Orihime have already been taken.
 
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windstorm

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I kind of doubt that the Vizards would be the next bad guys. I think Shinji, Hiyori and co wouldn't find it worth their efforts to bother going after Soul Society, especially since it was Aizen that pulled most of the strings that put them in the position they were in. At most what I see is the Vizards forcing Soul Society to make some kind of deal to their benefit or to reform the place given how many inefficiencys it seems to have. Their position and history also reminds me too much of Kisuke and Yoruichi's for them to try to stage some attack on Soul Society.

Yamamoto wouldn't arbitrarily order to go after them at this point either. Soul Society still has to recover from the mess Aizen left and going after a group of people as powerful as the Vizards whom are not very likely to threaten Soul Society would just be stupid. It wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that Yamamoto had some problems with the Central 46 in terms of differences of opinion and getting political junk done (especially if you include anime canon with the Amagai Shusuke arc). Ultimately though he has to uphold all of the rules of Soul Society and Seretei as its head captain. His own judgement would likely agree in most cases, but there could be a few times it deviated, either that or he was too used to being in his position and stopped thinking outside that box very often.

With the Turn Back the Pendulum arc I can kind of understand why the Central 46 reacted the way they did. They were faced with what was essentially a load of powerful shinigami turned hollow which could kill several people and pose a grave threat later on. They did act way too hastily though and likely with only one sided evidence given from a single source (Aizen). It would have been more beneficial to keep the Vizards restrained and at least attempt to learn something about what caused the hollification and see if there was a way to reverse the process.
 
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zeebee1

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The problem with your argument is that Yamamato still has to listen to the next batch of the 46. And I wouldn't be surprised is the vizard are trying to get Ichigo and the other captains back. The vizard do have a barrier specialist.
 
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elric

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The next villian is. . . Isshin. He has been manipulating everyone in order to bring his dead wife back to life. :p
 
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