Bleach Bleach/Rurouni Kenshin

trevelyan1983

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#26
SoulGriever13 said:
Honestly, the whole big deal about this guy would be that he has no 'fancy' Soul Cutter and still wtfpwns pretty much anything that stands in his path.

Go look up Badass Normal in an trope dictionary, though he'd only be 'normal' when his blade is compared to the other Shinigamis' weapons.

Hell, _would_ he even become a Shinigami?

It'd be more amusing if he weren't, IMO. Just another wanderer in the Alley of Lost Souls ... who can wipe the floor with 99% of Seireitei. That's your jawdrop moment right there.

It'd also give an excuse for a Kuukaku matchup. Because there's not a decent one of those out there, according to the last reckoning.

-Griever
True, true - I'll concede that one, because the WTF factor resulting from a short Bishie with a totally unremarkable zanpakuto is immense. ;)

A Kuukaku matchup...it could work. There's little to link Kaoru and Tomoe, in terms of personality, so it's not like Kenshin seems to go for a particular kind of woman. And there are some similarities between Kuukaku and Kaoru, too. :sisi:
 
#27
It would get Zaraki a bit hot under the collar if someone suddenly appeared out of nowhere and started kicking Hollows around, and he found out it wasn't a shinigami.

Well, actually, it'd get all the shinigami rather stressed about it, I imagine... but Zaraki would put time and effort into finding him when he found out it was a kenjutsu specialist. ^_^ And would then want a duel. ^_^
 

cilrais

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#28
I wonder what the previous masters of Sir Ken's style are doing up in soul society.
 

praeceps11

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#29
SoulGriever13 said:
It'd also give an excuse for a Kuukaku matchup. Because there's not a decent one of those out there, according to the last reckoning.

? -Griever
The Kuukaku match up would only work if he died either before he met Tomoe or before he really developed feelings for Kauru. Otherwise since either one would be still alive and he would probably view a relationship with Kuukaku as betraying either Kauru or Tomoe.
 

Cornuthaum

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#30
Just to avoid them being there, they are reborn already.

Honestly, NonShinigami!Kenshin doesn't work out, because the story would become so ridiculously swamped with OCs that it would kill the flavour.

But there's a way around the stupid training at the academy that fits very well with the NonShinigami part.

At first he is STILL a Rurouni, but this time a spirit.

He still kicks ass on a cosmic scale, but isn't a shinigami.

The news of his asskickery spread, and better and better opponents swiftly find themselves unconscious against the closest object that stopped them midflight.

Insert Romance Plot here.

Then the battle-hungry higher-ups get wind of that awesomely powerful stranger... who either eludes them with a friendly smile and an "oro?" as he suddenly falls into a plot hole or deals with them (as they're cocky assholes) the same way he does with all others.

Draw, bash on the head, leave.

And then comes His Zaraki-ness. Too fast to evade, too crazy to reason with, all-out drag-down no-holds battle follows where they fight each other to a standstill. (Kenshin can't/doesn't want to cut Kenpachi, Kenpachi can't /hit/ the chibi swordsman)

Durr. The officers of the G13 are in tumult. A stranger fought the mad swordsman of the eleventh to a standstill? He will join the G13... or die refusing.

Insert many, many tiring challengers that end up with a mild concussion against the nearest object that stopped their flight.

(Kenshin really doesn't want to enter army service... he fought enough, or so he thinks.)

Insert Bad Evil Hollow Attack of Doom.

Shinigami die left and right, cause they're noobs. Kenshin faces, once more, the decision (in form of a captain who watches and tells him) to either fight and defend both the civvie pluses and the wounded / surviving shinigami or leave again and live /forever/ with the shame that he failed those who could not defend 'emselves.

BAM! BARF! BIFF! BONK! BOOF! KAPOW! KERBLAM! POW! SMACK! SOCKO! SPLAT! WHACK! WHAM! WHAMMO! ZAP! ZOT! follow and Kenshin gets railroaded ('cause he's too tired to object) into Substitute Shinigami status (meaning that technically he doesn't have to go to the living world and perform things such as Konso, but that he in some kind is bound to the rules and world of seireitei)

Just my two eurocents.
 

Bluedawn

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#31
Problem there is he could still escape. I have yet to see how being a guy in robes makes u have to do what they say.
 

voidseeker

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#32
would kenshin wear the uniform or would he do his own thing when it comes to clothes?
 

Cornuthaum

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#34
Bluedawn said:
Problem there is he could still escape. I have yet to see how being a guy in robes makes u have to do what they say.
they'll just shunt the responsibility over the recovery/training of the surviving wounded onto Kenshin... can you see him abandoning that responsibility? Cause I can't.
 

zeebee1

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#35
So they recruit the best warrior they have seen in several centuries and youn think they'll be satisfied with making him a teacher?
 

Bluedawn

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#36
Cornuthaum said:
Bluedawn said:
Problem there is he could still escape. I have yet to see how being a guy in robes makes u have to do what they say.
they'll just shunt the responsibility over the recovery/training of the surviving wounded onto Kenshin... can you see him abandoning that responsibility? Cause I can't.
Did you see him become a doctor early on in the series? Didnt think so, though he did later as in 50 something on in the OAVs if i remember. Fact is they'd have to beat him or threaten him via an innocent to get him to go with them. Either way it wont get him to join. And having him beat up by something else still doesn't mean he'd join them.

Personally imagining he'd just be wandering around and they can call his help if they need it.
 

SotF

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#37
More likely he'd just show up when needed, the standard hero thing where they manage to find themselves where they can be the hero
 

trevelyan1983

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#38
Bluedawn said:
Did you see him become a doctor early on in the series? Didnt think so, though he did later as in 50 something on in the OAVs if i remember. Fact is they'd have to beat him or threaten him via an innocent to get him to go with them. Either way it wont get him to join. And having him beat up by something else still doesn't mean he'd join them.

Personally imagining he'd just be wandering around and they can call his help if they need it.
The anime and OAV is hardly the source to go to to prove anything - Seisouhen, for example? Better just to stick with the manga.

In the manga, Kenshin was in hiding with Tomoe after the Ikeda-ya incident, and became a medicine seller. If he was left to his own devices, he'd wander Rukongai and help people. But if he was made aware of Hollows and the danger they present to innocent souls, do you think, for one second, that he'd ignore that?

If you do, you seriously need to reconsider your interpretation of his character. Hiten Mitsurugi's basic tenet is to protect the weak by killing their oppressors. Kenshin takes this a step further - he protects even his enemies from needless death. He stopped Saitou from killing that Venom-ninja, Yatsume Mumyoi, for example. And his answer to Jinchuu was a life of battle, to atone for the lives he had taken as Hitokiri.

Kenshin might not like getting involved with the Gote 13, but he'd likely do so in order to save people's souls from being eaten. And if he ascends to Captaincy quickly enough, he'll have enough leeway for it not to matter.
 

cilrais

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#39
Would Kenshin even be super badass after he dies? What powers his abilities? I mean a lot of the characters have superhuman abilities in RK, I'd assume they're using Ki or something.
 
#40
I just thought of another person that would be super bad ass as a shinigami that I couldn't shake from my mind....Soujiro...hmm would Sukichi(spelling) at least the way he does it, be superior to shunpo?
 

Frank Cadena

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#41
You know, I wonder why I never thought of this before. RRK and Bleach just begs to be written. Really, thinking about the various levels of pwnage that Kenshin could dish out... :drool:

One way to make this work is that after Kenshin dies, he got separated with Kaoru in the afterlife. I remembered the episode where the boy that was bonded to the parrot went to soul society but still couldn't find his parents. I could see Kaoru and Kenshin separate and Kenshin, wanting to reunite with Kaoru, wanders Rukongai in search for her. Along the way he acquires a zanpakuto and uses the blade to dispense justice. He finds out that Kaoru joined the shinigami so he joins the shinigami and meets kaoru. end of first arc.

Sealed form is his sakabato. For his shikai, he unleashes his battosai power and speed with his RR mentality and also the edge is reversed. For his bankai, ultimate speed and power with battosai mentality, a berserker that decimates everything. I could see him being dropped into the mass of Arrancar and he goes bankai on them. cue the carnage.

I would write this if I could but I suck so... I'll just supply the ideas.
 

praeceps11

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#42
Frank Cadena said:
You know, I wonder why I never thought of this before. RRK and Bleach just begs to be written. Really, thinking about the various levels of pwnage that Kenshin could dish out...? :drool:

One way to make this work is that after Kenshin dies, he got separated with Kaoru in the afterlife. I remembered the episode where the boy that was bonded to the parrot went to soul society but still couldn't find his parents. I could see Kaoru and Kenshin separate and Kenshin, wanting to reunite with Kaoru, wanders Rukongai in search for her. Along the way he acquires a zanpakuto and uses the blade to dispense justice. He finds out that Kaoru joined the shinigami so he joins the shinigami and meets kaoru. end of first arc.

Sealed form is his sakabato. For his shikai, he unleashes his battosai power and speed with his RR mentality and also the edge is reversed. For his bankai, ultimate speed and power with battosai mentality, a berserker that decimates everything. I could see him being dropped into the mass of Arrancar and he goes bankai on them. cue the carnage.

I would write this if I could but I suck so... I'll just supply the ideas.
Actually another way to make this work as I stated earlier is for him to die instead of Tomoe, while still killing the guy who was trying to kill him. He would probably be in the Battosai mentality, since this would be after Tomoe was kidnapped, so he would probably join the Gotei 13 almost immediately. Another thing is he would have to be kons¶ to go to the soul society if Tomoe didn't die because he would remain, like Orihime's brother did, to to watch over Tomoe. Oh and if he wasn't kons? then there is you way to have either Vizard Kenshin or Arrancar Kenshin.
 

GenocideHeart

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#43
Just be sure that Shishio is a particularly powerful Vasto Lorde. He was gypped in the fight with Kenshin.
 
#45
GenocideHeart said:
Just be sure that Shishio is a particularly powerful Vasto Lorde. He was gypped in the fight with Kenshin.
another person who was gyped was Soujiro..... :sisi: where would he rank? especially with his version of Sukichi?
 

Frank Cadena

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#46
Tenken Soujiro would rank somewhere around Yoruichi's, the God(ess) of Shunpo, speed level. Skill-wise I'd think he is above her. Now power levels are hard to measure. I'd think that Soujiro and Kenshin have about the same level though if Kenshin used the edge instead of the blunt side of his Sakabatou, he would have won. How that would translate to Bleach power levels is anyone's guess.
 

holyknight

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#47
praeceps11 said:
Frank Cadena said:
You know, I wonder why I never thought of this before. RRK and Bleach just begs to be written. Really, thinking about the various levels of pwnage that Kenshin could dish out...? :drool:

One way to make this work is that after Kenshin dies, he got separated with Kaoru in the afterlife. I remembered the episode where the boy that was bonded to the parrot went to soul society but still couldn't find his parents. I could see Kaoru and Kenshin separate and Kenshin, wanting to reunite with Kaoru, wanders Rukongai in search for her. Along the way he acquires a zanpakuto and uses the blade to dispense justice. He finds out that Kaoru joined the shinigami so he joins the shinigami and meets kaoru. end of first arc.

Sealed form is his sakabato. For his shikai, he unleashes his battosai power and speed with his RR mentality and also the edge is reversed. For his bankai, ultimate speed and power with battosai mentality, a berserker that decimates everything. I could see him being dropped into the mass of Arrancar and he goes bankai on them. cue the carnage.

I would write this if I could but I suck so... I'll just supply the ideas.
Actually another way to make this work as I stated earlier is for him to die instead of Tomoe, while still killing the guy who was trying to kill him. He would probably be in the Battosai mentality, since this would be after Tomoe was kidnapped, so he would probably join the Gotei 13 almost immediately. Another thing is he would have to be kons¶ to go to the soul society if Tomoe didn't die because he would remain, like Orihime's brother did, to to watch over Tomoe. Oh and if he wasn't kons? then there is you way to have either Vizard Kenshin or Arrancar Kenshin.
And i say, what while it would be interesting to see it, in general i prefer the idea of a Kenshin post series...

If we were to use the Bakumatsu, pre-series Kenshin, we lose the chance to use ALL of the relations and friends what Kenshin made with many people.... :hmm: ....also, the emotional responses of Pre-series Kenshin are way more muted and limited...

Anyone thought what would happen If Kenpachi and Saitoh meet on the Seiretei, with Saitoh having become a Shinigami recently??

Or when Sanosuke dies, and arrives to the Rukongai, starts making a name for himself on the lower and darker parts of it?

And the Oniwabanshu, if all have enough Reiatsu to summon Zanpakutos, they would become a sort of un-official Unit?

.....i have many other thoughts...but my point is exposed. :sisi:

Plain Vanilla, or a thick, creamy and dark Triple Chocolate fudge?
 

ttestagr

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#48
I think I'll take this basic idea. I have a vague storyline forming in my head. Maybe it'll turn into something reminiscent of a good plot. I've been trying to think of a good shikai ability for Kenshin, and I think I've thought of something simple yet fitting.
 
#49
Cool. ^_^ Looking forward to seeing it.

I would try, but I've got more than enough ideas spinning round my head already. :help:
 

praeceps11

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#50
I jsut had an idea that would both explain why post series Kenshin would both have a relationship besides Kauru (if the author wanted one) and another explanation on why he started to fight Hollows.

Have Kauru be eaten by a Hollow so her soul is destroyed.
 
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