Naruto Bros on the Road

[Knyght]

When Sasuke confronts Itachi, he attempts to kill him with the Chidori but is effortlessly defeated and left with a broken arm and fractured ribs. Fortunately, as Itachi prepared to use his Tsukuyomi on Sasuke once again, Jiraiya was able to get the drop on him with the Rasengan to separate the two. Itachi decides that continuing the fight would be pointless and he and Kisame take their leave. Sasuke remains helpless and unable to stop his brother.

Naruto attempts to go after the pair but Jiraiya stops him. Instead they regroup and Jiraiya uses what medical know-how he possesses to heal SasukeÆs injuries; not perfectly but enough that theyÆre functional. At the same time, he prods Sasuke to tell him why he came, at which Sasuke confesses that he heard Kakashi had been attacked and that Naruto was in danger. Naruto is surprised but Jiraiya is annoyed by his stupidity, even if he respects the attempts.

Jiraiya tells them that Itachi is a member of Akatsuki who are after the YondaimeÆs legacy and then heÆd need to get stronger to face them in the future. Jiraiya then tells Sasuke to go home but Sasuke refuses, stating he should stick with Naruto in case they come back. The fact that heÆs helpless is pointed out but Sasuke refuses to relent and eventually Naruto says that he should come along. Jiraiya figures that heÆd probably be better off staying with him. As a result, this is where Sasuke finally learns that Naruto has the Kyuubi sealed inside him.

Orochimaru is searching for Tsunade at the same time, bringing Kabuto (and Kimimaro?). Jiraiya, Naruto and Sasuke all travel together in search of Tsunade. Jiraiya sees Orochimaru in Sasuke and tries to convince him not to follow the same path; using himself as an example of a powerful shinobi. They make a stop at a town where Jiraiya gives Naruto a pile of balloons and instructions on the RasenganÆs first step. Sasuke joins in they compete with each other in trying to learn it, itÆs nature as the pinnacle of shape transformations being of huge benefit to them both.

Ultimately, they travel from town to town as Jiraiya tries to find as much information on Tsunade as he can. Naruto and Sasuke are essentially left to their own devices.

ThatÆs around four weeks of mutual training with little supervision, going the canon timeline. With awhole country before them thereÆs a lot of potential mayhem to have with yakuza, missing-nin, gambling dens, cultists, festivals, nobles etc.

Thoughts and ideas?

 

[whitewhiskey]

Personally, I'm not sure if Sasuke could have effectively learned the Rasengan at that point. His problem would probably be the opposite of Naruto, descent enough control, but not enough chakra.

Yes, Sasuke can use the Chidori, but while it is originally based on the Rasengan, it is a completely different jutsu with, probably, different chakra requirements.

 

[mortalone]

Sasuke has enough chakra for the Rasengan. Don't kid yourself. Can he spam it like Naruto? No. But he definitely has enough to perform it multiple times even at that age.

I've thought about similar scenarios before, though usually with something like this arising as a consequence of earlier events, rather than the divergence occurring exactly during that fight with Itachi.

I don't think Jiraiya would want to teach Sasuke the Rasengan. Not that he dislikes Sasuke or wants to rub Naruto's growth in Sasuke's face, or any ridiculous reason such as what we typically see in badly written fanfiction, but this was the move invented by his student and he's passing the move down to the son of his student -- his own godson.

First, even if Jiraiya agrees to take Sasuke with, I disagree with the decision to have Sasuke healed basically instantaneously and start training with Naruto. Even with chakra, even with Jiraiya maybe knowing some basic medical techniques, Sasuke should probably be out for a few days. While he's out should coincide with Naruto completing stage 1 of the Rasengan. In a way this is convenient because instead of starting Sasuke in the same place and having Naruto compete to learn the technique that is his heritage (I hesitate to use the word "owed" but if anyone in this manga was owed any technique it was the Rasengan for Naruto), it means that Sasuke can be put to something else.

An idea that crossed my mind is for Sasuke to spend his time on practicing his elemental manipulation with the intent of making his own technique. This is more in line with Jiraiya's style of teaching as well; he makes you figure out things for yourself.

 

[Prince Charon]

An idea that crossed my mind is for Sasuke to spend his time on practicing his elemental manipulation with the intent of making his own technique. This is more in line with Jiraiya's style of teaching as well; he makes you figure out things for yourself.

Agreed.

Another option is to work on blind fighting, since letting a mangekyo user see your eyes is a quick way to lose (and Jiraiya presumably doesn't know that Itachi is hoping to commit Suicide By Little Brother).

 

[ankokudaishogun]

Jiraiya wanting to keep an eye\study Sasuke's cursed seal is also a good reason for letting him coming along.

Also, I think Jiraiya alternating between trying to "mellow out" Sasuke(by bringing him along in brothels and shit) and have him help Naruto would be interesting.

A side-effect of bringing Sasuke would be teaching him the basis of investigation and information gathering, because the whole thing with Itachi because Jiraiya thinks the whole Itachi thing is a little TOO weird but it's something Sasuke should do by himself.
Another side-effect would be Sasuke focusing on making his own jutsu because he already has a shape\nature manipulation jutsu and making one's own is the successive step in becoming stronger(and having a trump card against Itachi)


Last side effect might be Jiraiya deciding to investigate a little more on what did happen to the other dojutsu-genius he did teach, as he did hear he was dead but nothing more specific...

 

[Antimatter]

I'd think that instead of trying to teach him the rasengan, Jiraya would start him on the path of creating his own variant of the Chidori.

 

[Knyght]

I suppose expanding on the Chidori would make a good starting point; either by experimenting with different shape manipulation or mastering nature transformation. My headcanon has Sasuke's training involve him copying the Chidori and practising it until he could properly mould and transform his chakra with its hand-seal sequence. So he never underwent training specifically for elemental chakra.

It'd be believable for Jiraiya to point out that Sasuke already had a powerful jutsu and it would be just as effective to improve on that instead of learning a new one.

Instead of Sasuke trying to get Jiraiya to teach him or Jiraiya choosing to do so, he could become involved in the Rasengan training directly through Naruto. Seeing what Naruto's doing with his chakra could lead to him taking more of an interest and participating in the balloon exercises. I doubt Jiraiya would actually try to stop him in that case and this could allow him to take advantage of the situation to motivate Naruto more. Ideally, this would lead to Naruto pulling it off one-handed. Whether Sasuke actually succeeds with the jutsu is up in the air; he doesn't need the jutsu itself and the Chidori could easily fit his preferences better in the end. Depends more on what direction you're taking their development.

Jiraiya taking Sasuke along to study the curse seal is interesting. Personally, I don't think he had any first-hand experience with it so he could learn some interesting things. Especially since he'd possible be able to detect the inclusion of sage chakra when apparently no-one else did.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

Sasuke having got an abridged version of the lessons about nature and shape manipulation to the specific end to learn Chidori as fast as possible makes sense(let's remember it was likely a last minute addition to Sasuke's training after Gaara's little chat with him)

 

[Knyght]

Kakashi teaching Sasuke the Chidori was the plan all along. Trained him in Strong Fist so he'd be fast enough to get around Gaara's sand use the Chidori which requires a lot of momentum behind it. And I'm fairly sure Sasuke was in the middle of <a href='http://i3.mangapanda.com/naruto/106/naruto-1566302.jpg' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>training the Chidori</a>when Gaara popped up anyway.

Anyway, are there any ideas for what events could take place during this? It's a fic about a couple of ninjas being on the road after all, not a training fic.

 

[ankokudaishogun]

Kakashi teaching Sasuke the Chidori was the plan all along. Trained him in Strong Fist so he'd be fast enough to get around Gaara's sand use the Chidori which requires a lot of momentum behind it. And I'm fairly sure Sasuke was in the middle of <a href='http://i3.mangapanda.com/naruto/106/naruto-1566302.jpg' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>training the Chidori</a>when Gaara popped up anyway.

dammit, I'll have re-read the manga again. Forgetting or mixing up too much shit.

Anyway, are there any ideas for what events could take place during this? It's a fic about a couple of ninjas being on the road after all, not a training fic.

Brothels. Also, Sasuke discovering how the Uchiha were seen around the world.

Also, Naruto saving some princess. Because.

 

[Masterly]

Jiraiya puts them to work, and more actively pursues leads on Akatsuki. They spend the entire trip sabotaging Akatsuki plans/putting down dissident elements in the Land of Fire/spying in other nations.

 

[Antimatter]

Sasuke having got an abridged version of the lessons about nature and shape manipulation to the specific end to learn Chidori as fast as possible makes sense(let's remember it was likely a last minute addition to Sasuke's training after Gaara's little chat with him)

Remember, pre time skip there was no such thing as chakra alignments. I figure you could learn anything you wanted to, and the eyes could copy it. Hence why in the movies Kakashi could copy just about anything his opponent used, and why sasuke could use two elements.

Always figured it was introduced to explain who most people only seemed to use one type of jutsu, and to add a pokemon element of 'this beats that' to simplify fights.

 

[daniel_gudman]

I feel like Jiraiya would not be thrilled about teaching Sasuke anything, but Naruto taught Konohamaru Rasengen for the hell of it; maybe Sasuke blows off whatever Jiraiya says and Naruto teaches him Rasengan, in exchange for Sasuke teaching him Chidori? Shenanigans ensue; Naruto uses, just, the stupidest metaphors, and Sasuke cannot explain anything without just saying, "and then you do it."

Naruto's goal is to hold a Rasengan with a hand using Chidori; not because he's trying to complete either of them or whatever, he just thinks that would be totally awesome. He's motivated entirely by imagining the wicked sound it would create.

 

[Knyght]

One Thousand Spinning Birds.

You may laugh now but when you hear their cries, you will know fear.

 

[Masterly]

One Thousand Spinning Birds.

You may laugh now but when you hear their cries, you will know fear.

Naruto and Sasuke brofist/highfive with their respective jutsu.

 

[roting_CORPSE]

One Thousand Spinning Birds.

You may laugh now but when you hear their cries, you will know fear.

Naruto and Sasuke brofist/highfive with their respective jutsu.

and both were propelled away some distance after their jutsu met and detonated.

you know just like the 3 separate occasion their jutsu collided in the manga.

 

[kijin666]

One Thousand Spinning Birds.

You may laugh now but when you hear their cries, you will know fear.

Naruto and Sasuke brofist/highfive with their respective jutsu.

and both were propelled away some distance after their jutsu met and detonated.

you know just like the 3 separate occasion their jutsu collided in the manga.

Or they manage to blow it up in someone else's face. After they talk to Jiraiya about it, he teaches them the basics of collaboration techniques. Naruto and Sasuke bond over explosions like true bros. Maybe Jiraiya will point out that with Itachi after Naruto, Sasuke just needs to hang around and Itachi will come to him. Without the Mangekyo fuckover and some bro-ness added in, Sasuke could be a genuinely cool character.

 

[Shirotsume]

Honestly, if Itachi had been a few seconds later or Sasuke a minute faster, so much in the series could have changed for the better.
IIRC, Sasuke was running out to WARN Naruto, first and foremost. It's only when he laid eyes on basically his own personal antichrist that he went into raegmoed... and Itachi, of course, midraped out of reflex it seems.

 

[Masterly]

Itachi, of course, midraped out of reflex it seems.

Hey! It's always worked befo-it's never faile-

Hmm.

 

[zeebee1]

Maybe if he spent less time going blind he could come up with a decent plan that would actually make Sasuke a hero.

 

[blabla1994]

Itachi, of course, midraped out of reflex it seems.

Hey! It's always worked befo-it's never faile-

Hmm.

It's one of my personal favorite parts about Itachi's character.

That his Intelligence is about 23, and his wisdom about 4.

 

[Shirotsume]

Damn you. Now you're making me want to categorize all the Naruto characters via STR, DEX, CON, INT, WIS, CHA, LCK.

 

[Masterly]

Naruto:
Str 16
Dex 10-12~
Con 22+
Int 7-8~
Wis 12-16~
Cha 18-20~

Sasuke:
Str 14-16~
Dex 18-20+
Con 14-16
Int 16-18~
Wis 8-10~
Cha 7-8~

They make up for each other's weak points. :3c

 

[Shirotsume]

You forgot

Naruto:
LCK: 24

and
Sasuke:
LCK: -3

 

[Masterly]

You don't need Luck when you're friends with Naruto.