Akamatsuverse Chao Lingshen...

[SoftRogue]

I was just rereading the manga and and interesting thought came to me; was Chao's plan even more devious than we first thought? Did she, in fact, succeed in her plan?

Allow me to explain.

If Chao did not come to the past like she did, then the Mahora Fighting Tournament wouldn't have happened. At that point in history; Negi had some martial arts and magical training from Evangeline and Ku Fei but he still was nowhere near the skill level he shows by the end of the Tournament. It was also durning the time of the Tournament that Negi made Pactios with Yue, Paru, and Chisame. Plus, the Tournament brought Albireo out of hiding and gave Negi the first concrete proof that his father was alive.

In other words, if it weren't for Chao; then Negi wouldn't have had the motivation or the skills to go off to search for Nagi in the Mundus Magicus...which means he wouldn't have been present to interfere with Fate's plan to destroy Mundus Magicus.

My theory is this: The Time that Chao came from was one in which Fate's plan to destroy Mundus Magicus succeeded. With the destruction of Mundus Magicus; the survivors were forced to go to the normal world and, with the introduction of so many new 'types' of non-humans to the normal world, not only was the existence of magic revealed but the world was was plunged into a war because of which.

Chao's plan was two fold: Reveal the existence of magic before the destruction of Mundus Magicus before Fate's plan was enacted. By doing this it would either foil Fate's plan completely or lessen the impact of what would happen when the surviving inhabitants of Mundus Magicus came to the normal world and, perhaps, preventing the war from happening.

However, if she failed, her actions would have forced Negi to grow like he did, thus preparing him for the future as either someone who would try to stop Fate's plan before it began (like he is doing in the manga right now) or to be the front runner of the people on the magical side of the war that would come after the destruction of Mundus Magicus.

I admit, it's a stretch, but remember; the plan to reveal the existence of magic could have still been done even with Chao's defeat by Negi; Satomi could have still initiated the spell. However, it was agreed that if Negi won, then then plan would be stopped.

Anyway, like I was saying, it was just an idea that I came up with...any thoughts?

 

[Prince Charon]

It fits. It fits very well.

 

[Scygnus Darkhawk]

*needs to find a copy of the Gargoyles cartoon because he forgets who he wants to liken Chao to in this thought*

Heads I win, tails you lose, right?

If I win, I win, if you win, I win.

:snigger:

Imagine Negi's reaction if he ever found out that that was indeed the case... that Chao manipulated the hell out of him and won whether he won or lost. It's amusing when someone's able to stack the deck like that.

 

[Lord Raine]

I'd guessed this was the case some time ago (when I was thinking about my drwho!Negi idea), but I never really voiced it. It makes perfect sense if you stop looking at it from the readers perspective, and think about it from Chao's perspective, however. Chronologically speaking, her timeline never had her going back to the past. Thus, everything that occurred as a direct result of her being in the past never happened in her timeline.

From there, it's a natural extrapolation of the current manga events to conclude what she meant when she said her future was 'desolate' and 'war-torn'. Every change and development in Negi and his students that she directly and indirectly caused had not happened in her world, which, given what happens in the manga chapters after the Festival arc, means that not only would Negi have been much weaker than he is now, but that Negi and his students would never have gone to the magical world. Without him there, Fate would have free rein to sabotage the magical world and expose it to the mundane one, sowing the seeds for the largest war in known history.

That's the world Chao was born into, and that's the world she swore to change. So she made a completely flawless plan.

She would go back in time, and create win-lose scenario that would favor her no matter what the outcome. If she won, the war would never happen. If she lost, then her side of the war would be given over a dozen exceptionally powerful individuals who would want to enter the magical world.

Fate said that Neji and his students coming through the gate when they did was pure coincidence.

I say that's bullshit. It was no coincidence. It was Chao's careful calculations. She predicted exactly what Negi and co would do after her defeat, and timed everything so that Negi and his students would enter the magical world exactly when Fate attacked the waystation.

In doing so, she not only foiled whatever Fate was intending to do there, but gave Negi and his friends a reason to pursue Fate.


If she won, it would never happen. If she lost, she gains over fifteen exceptional magical allies hell-bent on running Fate down and foiling his plans.


LOL Deathnote can't top this shit.

 

[ZeroForever]

hmm very good theory, can't give it definite yes or no but it's a very good Xanatos Gambit and fits the story well. I'm leaning on that Chao had a rough estimation of fates group but no solid details other then a handful of dates of events (if she had solid info there would be no reason why her plans couldn't have been more precise.)

either way it'll be a while, assuming if ever before we'll get a yes or no to the theory. But in general i like it.

 

[OniGanon]

I agree, this theory sounds good.

 

[knight_of_ni]

*needs to find a copy of the Gargoyles cartoon because he forgets who he wants to liken Chao to in this thought*

Heads I win, tails you lose, right?

If I win, I win, if you win, I win.

:snigger:

Imagine Negi's reaction if he ever found out that that was indeed the case... that Chao manipulated the hell out of him and won whether he won or lost. It's amusing when someone's able to stack the deck like that.

I believe you are thinking of Xanatos.

EDIT: I am a dumbass <_<

 

[Mechatrill]

Still... Getting the timing of Negi's trip to the Magic World to completely coincide with that of Fate's... Seems to be a bit outstretched, even for Chao...

Then again, Chao probably didn't NEED to have Negi get caught in Fate's attack on the gates. As long as Negi arrived sometime around that summer/autumn, he'd probably attend the festival at Ostia, seeing that it's pretty much the end all of events around that time. Add that to the fact that Fate's plans most likely takes place in Ostia, during the festival, makes it quite likely that the two would meet, and Negi would recognize and oppose Fate.

With this, I'm going to say that the timing of Negi's trip coinciding with that of Fate's attack is a complete coincidence. Chao probably only planed for Negi to go to the Magic World during that summer break, and get involved with Fate there. Good plans had to be flexible after all. However, through lucky (for Chao anyways) coincidence, Negi got involved in the conflict with Fate at the very beginning. Still, it's win/win for Chao either way.

 

[Frank Cadena]

I dunno. This is Chao Lingshen we're talking about here. She's a damn genius so it's not entirely out of the picture that she planned for every contingency so for me it's not entirely that big a stretch to imagine that Chao had some kind of plan for Negi to be at the Waystation exactly when Fate attacked if he didn't have the initiave to go to the Mundus Magicus by himself. Remember that Chao has a lot of connections to make sure that it happens. Granted that right now it's just a conjecture since it's not really shown but I assume this to be true.

 

[wannabeamonkey]

I don't know guys, she seems quite a bit like Negi, I mean come on, they both have penchants for overly simple solutions to problems, In her case, it was reveal the magical world to completely and utterly change the future, even if she goes about it in an overly complicated way, in Negi's case, we've seen it a several times, though the one I think of immediately is using two absolutely basic spells to run the watch while fighting her, they both have that spark...

and that of course is the thing that really settles my mind on her telling the truth about being his descendant.

 

[ryushi]

Fate said that Neji and his students coming through the gate when they did was pure coincidence.

:huh: Neji? and Fate said this? Perhaps the disgruntled Branch house Prodigy was more right then he thought. Fate really does have it in for him. :snigger: