COME GANNY!

#1
Just a silly idea I had... Ganondorf appears! But instead of doing bad things, spreading chaos, havoc, and general mayhem, he's negotiating peace-treaties, feeding the homeless, etc.

He's gained influence and power through peaceful means, and acts benevolently to his charges, even smoothing out human/monster relations to the point where you see moblins and other assorted creatures roaming the streets of Hyrule Castle Town, doing their laundry, selling vegetables, buying dinner, their children playing in the streets, and generally minding their own business.


Why? He got tired of losing. And it's driving the Goddesses batty. And he knew it would, which is why he did it. They can't send in Link's incarnation without him being the bad guy. Princess Zelda knows him personally, and even though the Goddesses prod her to get rid of him, she can't find any fault to attack without making herself look the villain. That could taint the entire legend of the Hero and the Master Sword, making the next incarnation difficult since the precedent wouldn't be available anymore.

So Dyne, Nayru and Farore are generally going nuts trying to figure out how to keep him from ending up ruling Hyrule before the century is over. And Ganondorf knows this. And he's laughing, oh is he ever laughing. They've tortured him with his role for generations and generations and he's finally getting payback.

How did this happen? Well, he turned evil at first because, as the saying goes, power corrupts. Corruption generally takes the form of Greed. Ganondorf wanted it all, and it seemed the easiest way to get it was to take it. After many losses, he's revised his opinion, and with the centuries he has had to think and the Triforce of Power-granted immortality, he's learned patience. He'll have it all this time because they'll give it to him.

He has money from using his sorcery to construct and produce in ways that it would take hundreds of hylians to do. He has political power from much hard work lobbying for the misunderstood races of Hyrule, having schmoozed with the cream of the crop, not to mention being personal friends with the King of Hyrule. There's no one with more wealth and power than him... except the King himself. And Ganondorf will have that title for himself in time as well; though it may be generations, a Princess of Hyrule will eventually fall for him, he is confident.

The Zelda of today isn't even a consideration. She dislikes him for reasons she cannot explain, and seeks to destroy him on every level... but has no cracks to call him deserving of it, and so can do nothing. Ganny has even gone so far as to speak with her privately, telling her exactly who he is and exactly what he's doing. Not to mention who she is, her purpose in prophecy, and all that. All of that of course, angers her even more. And Ganondorf laughs in her face when she reveals her reaction, his revenge served to one more who had oppressed him.

She of course, tried to tell her father that he wanted to supplant him as King. The King put Ganny at precautionary swordpoint and asked what she meant; he replied honestly with his dastardly plan, emphasizing how very evil it was to get what he wanted without hurting anyone or even being very sneaky about it. The King laughed, shook Ganny's hand and wished him the best of luck, as long as he'd wait his turn.

All of this, of course, is still driving the Goddesses batty. And Ganny laughs.



Yeah, this was just a funny idea I had. Ganondorf going good for the sole purpose of driving the Goddesses, with their neatly set up little plans, totally batshit insane. Not sure if it's got any sort of plot hiding in the idea, but I thought the concept was hilarious.
 

zeebee1

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#2
It worked until you had him tell the king. The king would have no choice but to see this as an attempt to take the throne.
 
#3
Of course, the first person has to be someone taking it seriously... bah.

First of all, they've been friends for ages, and the King knows his friend is ambitious, but also knows that he has nothing to really fear from him. Second, his stated intent was to woo the Princesses of Hyrule until he found one that liked him, and as the current princess, Zelda, despised him quite thoroughly, it was unlikely to be this lifetime. Third, Ganondorf holds enough influence with the people that it would sorely hurt the King's position as the benevolent ruler that he is to kill such a well-liked public figure without certain and definite proof of his treachery. Fourth, Ganondorf is also the representative and speaker for the numerous groups of monster races that wish to live in peace and are widespread and mixed in communities, and his death could be taken as a declaration of hostilities, resulting in very nasty urban warfare. And Fifth, finally, at least that I can think of, he can't kill Ganondorf and well knows it. Takes the Master Sword to even think about injuring him, remember?
 

zeebee1

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#4
What's to stop Zelda from making sure all of her descendants that Gannondorf is evil?

The thing is I can't really take parody well. I see things too seriously too let the villian win. Because, lets face it, once he becomes king he will be evil again.
 

GenocideHeart

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#5
You assume children listen to their parents. especially TEENAGE children.

Give it a few generations and Zelda's descendants will dismiss their great-great-granny's rants and ravings as just personal dislike with no basis. Especially since all the good Ganondorf's done is under their eyes for them to see.

Mind you, it could even be that Zelda ends up having no offspring, for various reasons, in which case Ganondorf is essentially home free once she passes away. :rofl:
 

Lumias

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#6
You know, Link should be involved somehow, but I think unlike the Godesses and Zelda who know everything that's going on he'd have no real problem with Ganon.

I mea he could come into Hyrule town to help deliver goods from whatever backwater town he's from and Ganon would most likely recognise him.

Ganon would probably be smart enough to realize Link is always kept in the dark until Zelda and the godesses need him, sometimes keeping him that way through most of his battle's against Ganon.

Cue Ganon to befriend him before the godesses inform Link of his power. Watch the godesses and Zelda go ape shit as Ganon starts acting as a kind fatherly figure to Link, so much to the point Link starts serving under him in a body guard capacity or some such way.
 
#7
I was actually trying to figure out how Link would work into it, and I could certainly see Ganny doing that. Link's been just as much a tool of the Goddesses as Ganny, and besides the women, doesn't get much out of it, so Ganondorf I would imagine doesn't have as much of a beef with him as he does with Zelda and the Goddesses. Link's also always stuck me as the kind of person that doesn't mind sitting still. If there's an adventure he needs to embark on, he'll do it, but if peace is there, and nothing is wrong, he's perfectly content to hang around and be a normal guy. Not ambitious in any sense, I guess you'd say.

As far as Zelda not having any kids... I've always wondered why she never had any siblings. I mean, medievally speaking, royalty tended to have lots of heirs, just to be on the safe side. Also, when the main family dies out, royalty tends to have three dozen trees extending outward to choose from. In any case, I doubt Zelda would let her line die for something like that, being confident in her ability to warn her children off, and knowing that her eventual next incarnation will refresh the prejudice against. Of course, if her first daughter were to fall for him, can you say 'Mother in law from hell'? :rofl:

Thinking on both those lines, I doubt it'd be Link too, which would probably piss Zelda off even worse. I can see him running away from her like she's a crazy lady at some point when she realizes that he has no interest in her. If Ganny comes clean with him at some point about the past cycles, I can imagine the fact that he's been ending up with the same girl every time to be a little creepy. It does sort of make sense to say they're probably related, even if the bloodlines have diverged far since the last cycle, but the thought might still seem a bit creepy to him. Of course, Link would have to ask if it's gonna happen that way again. To which Ganny would reply that if he wants to go hunting relics, killing innocent monsters and stabbing him with a sword instead of having a nice quiet life and wooing that cute farmgirl, hey, that's his mistake.

As far as Ganny being evil again once he's King of Hyrule... One of the things that lead me to thinking of this was wondering what Ganondorf's motivation was. He's ambitious and greedy, sure, but for what? He wants to rule Hyrule, always has. His campaigns were ruthless, to be sure, and he tended to ally himself with the monsters, since they'd agree with the whole 'take by force' idea that he's given up now. The monsters did most of the carnage and evil, Ganondorf just sat back and watched, it seems. Which leads me to question whether he's really 'evil' or just ruthless. We've never seen him actually harm someone for the joy of it alone, only with purpose toward his goal.

Why would he become evil once he had the throne? The best way to keep a throne is to make the people who support it happy, otherwise you either end up with revolution after revolution or a kingdom of dust. Ganondorf certainly has never been malicious to anyone not directly opposed to him, at least to my recall.

The one thing he's wanted, of course, besides the rule of Hyrule, was the Triforce in its entirety. If Link's his friend, and not going to use it, he'll probably be fine with giving it to Ganondorf. Zelda's a bit trickier, but he's thinking that he might try to be there when she dies (from natural causes of course) and try to snag it then. What wish he makes on it... I wouldn't know, actually. In OoT, he pretty much ruled Hyrule already, but he still wanted the Triforce, so it couldn't be that. I forget if he makes a wish on it in Wind Waker (anyone else remember what it might have been?) so we really don't know what he would wish for. Or it could be what a lot of ficwriters say, and possessing the whole Triforce steps Ganny up from demi-god status to a full god, so he can go kick the Goddesses arses personally.

I think, myself, that his original ambitions have died out since the beginning, and now he just wants to actually win one and get revenge on those three for all their plotting.
 

SotF

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#8
Well, with the OoT part, remember that Zelda was also out there and causing trouble for Ganon.

It could be funny for Link to be dupped by Zelda at the beginning only to be saved by Ganon. Hell, if Link is young enough, you could theoretically have Ganon adopt him. Gerudo Prince Link would be hilarious
 
#9
SotF said:
Well, with the OoT part, remember that Zelda was also out there and causing trouble for Ganon.

It could be funny for Link to be dupped by Zelda at the beginning only to be saved by Ganon. Hell, if Link is young enough, you could theoretically have Ganon adopt him. Gerudo Prince Link would be hilarious
Well, even once he got her at the end and it was all his, he was still after the Triforce. He still had Link to deal with at that point too, but it still seemed that his main focus was the Triforce.

And I'm not sure if that idea is sound the way I'm thinking of it. Zelda and Link are usually the same age, or nearly anyway. I can't seen a very young Zelda doing anything as dastardly as duping, especially considering that Link's also usually living in some little backwater village that it'd be very hard for a young girl of that age to get to, even as a royal brat. And without Zelda being able to get him, to find him even I'd say, Ganny has no way to locate him. Making Link a Gerudo Prince is still pretty funny, though as I said, I think he's content with a rancher's life. Maybe have Ganny make him an 'honorary Gerudo Prince!' when he gets talented enough to beat him in a sword fight.

If the whole tribe is back around, that could get interesting :rofl:
 

SotF

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#10
Zelda tricking him really wouldn't be all that hard if the Sheika are around, Impa was sworn to guard and obey her and could easily send her on errands. Ganon looking for Link would be somewhat suspicious.

As for the Gerudo, Link got along with them pretty well. Enough to be made an honorary Gerudo in OoT at least. Plus if he still wants revenge on the goddesses, sending Link their way with the fierce diety mask would be one way of dealing with the problem. Them getting the smackdown by Link in the end could be seen by Ganon as poetic justice of sorts.

The only time it seems like Link had a truely personal reason to hunt down Ganon was in OoT when the Great Deku Tree was cursed by him.
 
#11
Actually... Ganondorf's plots do end up dragging Link into it, though the Deku tree was the only intentional one to my knowledge. In Wind Waker it was his little sister getting grabbed. In Twilight Princess, his friends end up being dragged off by Bublins (still not sure why... they seemed like they were looking for the Triforce mark, but somehow completely missed checking Link and still took all the others off for no apparent reason).

And I haven't played through Majora's Mask, so I'm not actually sure what the Fierce Deity mask does.
 

SotF

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#12
Think of it as God Mode Link. Invincible but normally drains MP while doing so. If you drink the milk that gives infinite you are unstoppable. You do insane amounts of damage, ranged sword attacks, I think you even move faster. The only boss that's slightly difficult is the giant sandworm one where you normally need the giants mask
 

locke69

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#13
Link to the Past gave another reason for Link to hunt Ganny or Zelda. Zelda could telepathicaly talk with her chosen champion, and after playing the beginning (not going into the castle) for thrity minutes, I wanted to either kill her or Ganon just to shut her up.

So we have kill a bastard to shut up a whiny princess or kill them both... am I the only person that would take both options if allowed?
 

Ura Mamoru

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#14
Forgive the tangent here, but...

Am I the only one who thinks of Ammy from Okami every time I read the title of this topic?

As for the situation of a pseudo-benevolent Ganondorf...
:yay: :yay: :yay:

We needed more original ideas in the Zelda-verse anyways!
 
#15
I just realized that this thread's title came from Legendary Frog's Legend of Zelda flash animation.
 
#16
I was wondering when someone would catch that...

Hm, Ammy... I smell a crossover. Considering the lack of possibility for a sequel (Clover going out and all) and Hyrule being considered 'the land of the gods'... I'll have to think about that one and come up with something interesting. Conversations including both Ammy and Link could be quite funny, considering the SPS on both their parts.

I might actually pick this one up soon... I've wanted to write something involving political manipulations for a while, and this would be a fine way to do it without having to get too serious.
 

SotF

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#17
Could you link to the animation, I haven't seen it
 

Lufio

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