Naruto Elemental Combinations

Knyght

The Collector
#1
The Elements
These are the descriptions which are given to each of the five elements in the Third Databook in the Nature Transformation section.

Fire: Flame-like high-temperature chakra that burns everything it touches to a crisp. It has the additional effect of setting the target aflame, and stands besides Wind as an offense-specialized style.

Wind: Blade-like chakra to behead, split and sever anything and anyone. Used with special ninja tools or in jutsu, it has the best offensive ability in close to medium range.

Lightning: Easy to diffuse, it has good compatibility with medium to long range jutsu. Infused into a metallic weapon, it adds harming and killing efficiency, as well as electrocution.

Earth: The Nature that alters everything in solidity and composition. If one masters it, it is possible to give jutsu or objects the resistance of steel and the flexibility of clay.

Water: A good compatibility with various Shape Alterations. Creating a mist to hide oneself, or a tidal wave for confinement, it is greatly beneficial for supporting purposes.

The Combinations
These are advanced nature transformations which are performed by using two different chakra natures simultaneously.

Hyouton (Ice Release) = Water/Wind

Mokuton (Wood Release) = Earth/Water

Ranton (Storm Release) = Water/Lightning

Futton (Boil Release) = Fire/Water

Youton (Lava Release) = Earth/Fire
Unusually, this kekkei genkai has been demonstated by four different characters from three seperate villages and each one has shown their own version. My personal theory is that the nature of the lava is changed depending on the ratio of Earth and Fire chakra when the techniques are used. It's possible that due to their environment and family history, as the Youton jutsu were passed down they took on different properties despite sharing the same roots.

Jinton (Dust Element) = Fire/Earth/Wind (Kekkei Tota)

The elemental chakra natures used for the next three are unknown, so I've placed the ones that have been theorised as the most likely components.

Bakuton (Explosive Release) = Fire/Wind

Shakuton (Scorch Release) = Fire/Lightning

Jiton (Magnetic Release) = Earth/Lightning

Assuming the above three are correct, that leaves us with two unknown advanced nature transformations.

Wind/Earth and Lightning/Wind

There is also the filler release type Shouton (Crystal Release), which may or may not make an appearance in the manga. It's unknown whether this is a result of an elemental combination or simply a unique type of jutsu.
 

Ashaman

Well-Known Member
#2
I think these are more likely to be honest.:

Bakuton (Explosive Release) = Fire/Wind

Shakuton (Scorch Release) = Fire/Lightning
 

Knyght

The Collector
#3
Ashaman said:
I think these are more likely to be honest.:

Bakuton (Explosive Release) = Fire/Wind

Shakuton (Scorch Release) = Fire/Lightning
Typical. I came to that conclusion earlier today but managed to get it the wrong way round when I was typing. Editing..
 

whitewhiskey

Well-Known Member
#4
Ashaman said:
I think these are more likely to be honest.:

Bakuton (Explosive Release) = Fire/Wind

Shakuton (Scorch Release) = Fire/Lightning
Actually, I think both could simply both be variations of plain Fire element.

Explosions are a sudden release of compressed energy, usually heat.

And all Scorch is is the sudden forced evaporation of water, so high, dry, controlled heat.

And certain others might just be a specific tangent of a single element, like Crystal could simply be earth control to a very specific degree.
 
#5
I think Shakuton is Fire/Wind not Fire/Lightning. It is called Scorch Release. The Fire Heats up the Air and makes it "Scorching Hot". Also the Suna's Sakuton User was using a technique that seem to dehydrate enemies till they shriveled up like dried up husks.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#6
whitewhiskey said:
Ashaman said:
I think these are more likely to be honest.:

Bakuton (Explosive Release) = Fire/Wind

Shakuton (Scorch Release) = Fire/Lightning
Actually, I think both could simply both be variations of plain Fire element.

Explosions are a sudden release of compressed energy, usually heat.

And all Scorch is is the sudden forced evaporation of water, so high, dry, controlled heat.
And ice is simply frozen water, yet we have Ice Release.

Using the Explosion Release as an example, I think Kishi was thinking of the effect of an increase in the oxygen concentration near a flame which would cause it to combust. Wind enhances Fire so the combination of that takes it to the extreme.

And certain others might just be a specific tangent of a single element, like Crystal could simply be earth control to a very specific degree.
I'd agree on this, especially since it originated from filler. Probably a very unique version of Doton though, if you pushed it, you could say it was another example of Kekkei Tota with Wind, Water and Earth. But I'm really skeptical about that.

EDIT:
I think Shakuton is Fire/Wind not Fire/Lightning. It is called Scorch Release. The Fire Heats up the Air and makes it "Scorching Hot". Also the Suna's Sakuton User was using a technique that seem to dehydrate enemies till they shriveled up like dried up husks.
It would work but Fire/Wind simply fits better with Bakuton, IMO. Also, take into the account the properties of lightning chakra; it's easy to diffuse (i.e. spread over a wide area) and causes internal damage via electrocution. You could say that Shakuton fits both criteria as it diffuses heat through the target's body and causes internal damage.
 

Altered Nova

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#7
If Fire/Water wasn't already taken I'd say that Scorch Release used that combination. It turns people into mummies by evaporating all the water in their body without actually burning them. By specifically targeting only water, that implies that water is one of the elements being combined. Maybe it's like Lava Release and Boil and Scorch are variations of the same bloodline?

Explosion Release, I'm pretty sure that's just a unique form of Earth Release. <a href='http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/526/12' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Deidara has that bloodline</a>, and during his fight against Sasuke it was a major plot point that his Earth jutsu were weak to Sasuke's lightning jutsu. No other element was ever mentioned, which would be weird if Explosion was an elemental combination. Especially if that other element was wind, which is strong against Lightning.
 
#8
So what of Ranton (Storm Release) It is in the third Shippuden Movie
 

Knyght

The Collector
#9
Altered Nova said:
If Fire/Water wasn't already taken I'd say that Scorch Release used that combination. It turns people into mummies by evaporating all the water in their body without actually burning them. By specifically targeting only water, that implies that water is one of the elements being combined. Maybe it's like Lava Release and Boil and Scorch are variations of the same bloodline?
You confused me a bit here. Are you referring to their geneaology i.e. that they descended from the same clan/family?

What you said makes sense but Lightning also works. It could be that Shakuton 'attacks' the water in the body because of its conductivity, causing it to be targeted by the Lightning component of the combination.

Explosion Release, I'm pretty sure that's just a unique form of Earth Release. <a href='http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/526/12' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Deidara has that bloodline</a>, and during his fight against Sasuke it was a major plot point that his Earth jutsu were weak to Sasuke's lightning jutsu. No other element was ever mentioned, which would be weird if Explosion was an elemental combination. Especially if that other element was wind, which is strong against Lightning.
That's likely because the clay is used as the main component of the technique. Deidara' infuses his EP into the clay (which is a form of Earth) giving it explosive properties and allows him to use ranged explosives. It's weakness to lightning would be a result of the style's elemental foundation.

Also, elemental combinations don't seem to follow the same weak against/strong against principles as their component elements.

For example Mokuton burns despite being made from Earth and Water. Haku stated that his technique wouldn't melt "with that level of fire"; which implies to me its stronger than normal ice, but it still vulnerable to Katon providing that they're hot enough (above a C-rank, most likely).

So what of Ranton (Storm Release) It is in the third Shippuden Movie
The one shown in the movie seemed to be for the sake of cinematic effect and took the name of Release style literally. I can't remember accurately but it may have been filmed before Darui's Ranton was animated.
 
#10
btw, don't the kanji used for Yoton change depending on the user?
 

Knyght

The Collector
#11
Narutopedia said:
When R¿¡shi's Lava Release is first referred to, the kanji ??, with the radical for "fire" (?­), is used. In later references when Mei's is used, the kanji ??, with the radical for "water" (?«), is used instead. When both Kurotsuchi and Dodai used it, it was once again with the fire radical. This seems to indicate that the Lava Release from Iwagakure and Kumogakure uses the fire radical, while the Lava Release from Kirigakure uses the water radical. However, in the data and fan books, both kanji have been used to refer to R¿¡shi's Lava Release.

Nowadays, the two kanji are synonyms and used interchangeably, with ?? being the more common variant. However, there seems to be a subtle difference in meaning between the two. The kanji with the fire radical seems to be used more often in words relating to metal and other solids, whereas the kanji with the water radical is more often used in words relating to liquids.
Believe at your own risk. :ph43r:

EDIT: It seems that kanji don't copy+past well.
 
#12
I'm going to ascribe it being just a not important naming difference(like Chidori is also known as Raikiri and the different name the Suna-nins had for the Kagemane no jutsu)
 

Knyght

The Collector
#13
Since I don't think it's been mentioned yet:

Enton (Blaze Release): This is a style of jutsu developed by Uchiha Sasuke with the use of his Mangekyou Sharingan. After using Amaterasu, the highest possible level of Katon jutsu, Sasuke applies shape transform to manipulate the form of the black flame in whatever way he desires. It does not involve an elemental combination.

And I was thinking of the two unknown elemental combinations I think I've come up with some good possibilities.

Thunder Release: The combination of Wind and Lightning chakra to produce sound. My reasoning is that, as explicitly stated in the manga, lightning chakra is done through vibration and wind would be similar since it can manipulate the air itself. It can be used destructively like Wind and is able to cause internal damage like Lightning.

Shouton (Crystal Release): The combination of Wind and Earth chakra to produce crystals. Initially I thought Crystal Release would be a form of a Doton jutsu but the the phrase "diamond in the rough" came to mind. The Earth element was be the obvious component as it forms the main structure and the Wind element's cutting nature is what makes it crystalline. Many of the technique which were shown do have cutting/piercing qualities, more than regular earth techniques.

Plus, Kishi's shown that he doesn't have a problem including elements of filler with his source material. Of course, that's not foolproof logic but it's ninja magic.
 

ArchfiendRai

Well-Known Member
#14
Wheres the bacon release? Bacon is an element amirite?



Also, after reading one piece, am I the only one who wants to see some Logia "level" elemental users?


I mean, with Kisame being such a beast with water, the only thing I can think of to make Tobirama even better is that. >_>
 

Knyght

The Collector
#15
Dude, you are not alone. Though we do have some contenders with the Raikage's Lightning Armour and the Hoozuki Clan's Hydration hijutsu. The latter even gives us a precedent for shinobi being able to transform into an element.
 

ArchfiendRai

Well-Known Member
#16
Exactly.

Its actually made me contemplate attempting a story. I just can't figure out if I want actual devil fruits, which would make it a OP Fusion, or if I would like it to be a a "Legendary" level of elemental training that not everyone can do, which people like Orochimaru as "Legendary" with mud. And obviously, Minato has "Legendary" with Light.

I'm kinda contemplating wtf a wind logia would be like. :p

Edit: And since Haki would pretty much have to appear either way, I guess I might as well just label it as a OP fusion.
 
#17
I mean, with Kisame being such a beast with water, the only thing I can think of to make Tobirama even better is that. >_>
Why should Tobirama be better at Suiton than Kisame?
 

ArchfiendRai

Well-Known Member
#18
ankokudaishogun said:
I mean, with Kisame being such a beast with water, the only thing I can think of to make Tobirama even better is that. >_>
Why should Tobirama be better at Suiton than Kisame?
Unless I missed something in the last hundred chapters or so, Tobirama was pretty much regarded as the most kickass water user ever, right? Just going from that.
 

mortalone

Well-Known Member
#19
I think Kisame's strong point isn't so much his Suiton technique but his absolutely immense chakra capacity, monstrous physical strength , and Samehada's chakra eating ability.

Of course his Suiton technique is among the most high level, no question, but these are the characteristics that standout.

If you look at his bio on leafninja (http://leafninja.com/biographies-H.php), Kisame isn't maxed out in the ninjutsu category, which is odd because among all Akatsuki members with stats given, Kisame is the only one not maxed in the ninjutsu category.

Of course, I've long ago learned that leafninja stats should be taken with a grain of salt, but even so...
 

Bill Felix

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#20
The Archfiend of Lightning said:
Wheres the bacon release? Bacon is an element amirite?
Nah man, you only get Bacon Release if you have an affinity in Fat Release AND Fire Release.

So, like, the ultimate Akimichi technique.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#21
So what are people's thoughts on the Muu and Onoki's Dust Release?
 
#22
The Archfiend of Lightning said:
ankokudaishogun said:
I mean, with Kisame being such a beast with water, the only thing I can think of to make Tobirama even better is that. >_>
Why should Tobirama be better at Suiton than Kisame?
Unless I missed something in the last hundred chapters or so, Tobirama was pretty much regarded as the most kickass water user ever, right? Just going from that.
uh, where that came from?
He was regarded as a super badass Suiton user, but nowhere he was stated being the best ever, IIRC
 

Bill Felix

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#23
ankokudaishogun said:
The Archfiend of Lightning said:
ankokudaishogun said:
I mean, with Kisame being such a beast with water, the only thing I can think of to make Tobirama even better is that. >_>
Why should Tobirama be better at Suiton than Kisame?
Unless I missed something in the last hundred chapters or so, Tobirama was pretty much regarded as the most kickass water user ever, right? Just going from that.
uh, where that came from?
He was regarded as a super badass Suiton user, but nowhere he was stated being the best ever, IIRC
It's kind of implied. No one else can just form water out of air after all.

The guy also used virtually no hand seals to perform really complex and power water ninjutsu.

And having Kage-level skills, I'd put him next to Nidaime Mizukage in terms of skill as being the greatest Water ninjutsu user in history.
 

Amberion

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#24
Bill Felix said:
ankokudaishogun said:
The Archfiend of Lightning said:
ankokudaishogun said:
I mean, with Kisame being such a beast with water, the only thing I can think of to make Tobirama even better is that. >_>
Why should Tobirama be better at Suiton than Kisame?
Unless I missed something in the last hundred chapters or so, Tobirama was pretty much regarded as the most kickass water user ever, right? Just going from that.
uh, where that came from?
He was regarded as a super badass Suiton user, but nowhere he was stated being the best ever, IIRC
It's kind of implied. No one else could pre timeskip, just form water out of air after all.

The guy also used virtually no hand seals to perform really complex and power water ninjutsu.

And having Kage-level skills, I'd put him next to Nidaime Mizukage in terms of skill as being the greatest Water ninjutsu user in history.
Fixed.

Once elemental chakra came into play, it seems that it isn't that hard.
 

whitewhiskey

Well-Known Member
#25
Amberion said:
Bill Felix said:
ankokudaishogun said:
The Archfiend of Lightning said:
ankokudaishogun said:
I mean, with Kisame being such a beast with water, the only thing I can think of to make Tobirama even better is that. >_>
Why should Tobirama be better at Suiton than Kisame?
Unless I missed something in the last hundred chapters or so, Tobirama was pretty much regarded as the most kickass water user ever, right? Just going from that.
uh, where that came from?
He was regarded as a super badass Suiton user, but nowhere he was stated being the best ever, IIRC
It's kind of implied. No one else could pre timeskip, just form water out of air after all.

The guy also used virtually no hand seals to perform really complex and power water ninjutsu.

And having Kage-level skills, I'd put him next to Nidaime Mizukage in terms of skill as being the greatest Water ninjutsu user in history.
Fixed.

Once elemental chakra came into play, it seems that it isn't that hard.
But it also seemed like Kisame was only so great because he also had Samehada to back him up as a spare battery.

Don't get me wrong, Kisame is still damn strong, but, if I remember right, Tobirama was too and was able to take on the Gold and Silver brothers when they were alive.
 
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