Nasuverse Fate/EXTRA: What If...?

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*SPOILERS GUARANTEED*

Due to the recent localization (and greater accessibility) of Fate/EXTRA, it is only a matter of time until related fanfiction starts trickling in.

The premise of this topic is a simple one: What if events in game happened differently? What if the Protagonist summons a different Servant from one of the three canon choices? What if the dude in the prologue survived and called a partner of his own?

This is the thread for those snippets and ideas.
 
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Whump.



I unceremoniously collapse on the ground the moment the effigy I was in control of gets run through by my opponent's piercing limb. No wounds are on my body, but if feels as if I myself was impaled by the enemy doll's sharp arm. I don't know or care about how that is possible - whether it be through sympathetic link or otherwise - because all I know is that my body is burning up as everything else goes cold around me. As my consciousness fades I spy something out of the corner of my eye that shakes me to my core even more than the notion of my near-death.


Students.


Bodies of students.


Dead bodies of students.


Lying everywhere.


Everywhere.



Alarms go off in my head, shaking me from my deathly stupor like a bucket of ice dumped on me. My eyes grow wide - wide with fear and confusion.


Why?


Why?!



Why is this happening?! Why did he have to die?! Why do I have to die?!


----I can't go yet. I can't go yet without knowing the answers to this question and all of the others that are coursing through my being like my own blood.

-----I can't go until I know why.



My legs tremble helplessly as I force myself to stand. It's in vain -- I crumple to the floor like a puppet whose strings have been cut, not unlike the broken body of my old doll-partner. I try to stand again, using my arms to hoist my body up...again, in vain. I crash to the floor again, and I find it so very hard to move.


No...


No......


I...I...


I can't give up...


But...still...


Again, I try to stand, and again my body refuses to keep upright. It is as if the powers-that-be have willed it that I will not move from my downed position, that since I have lost I must fade into nothing and waste away in this place.


If that really is the case, then...I refuse. I'll do whatever it takes to make it past this. Even if I have to defy those so-called gods themselves who have decided that I am to stay down, I'll go against them - not until I understand it all.


...still...it's so...hard...


"How much longer do you plan on floundering about like a beached fish?" An unexpected voice different from the other one groans, clearly irritated by what it is seeing, "I actually thought that maybe I saw something in you, despite - or maybe because of - your abnormally dull appearance. So, are you just going to disappoint me?"


I strain myself to look up at the swirling blue sky around me, blinking against the pain in wonder and curiosity. It is without a doubt a struggle, but I do it - I am able to will myself to move enough of my body so that I can sit on the cold, tiled ground.


"Hmm? Is that defiance I see, laced with brutally honest determination?" The voice continues, a hint of ... amusement, maybe, layering into its tone, "You have a boring expression - you are probably even more bland looking than most of the 'normal humans' that I have ever known. But I cannot deny that I sense something in you...perhaps I should even dare to describe it as 'interesting?' At any rate, it is not out of place for a king to help a subject in need. Especially if the subject in question piques the king's interest in a way that he hasn't known for the longest of times."




<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElQIbHsT3Ik' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>BGM!!</a>


----A chorus of shattering glass;
----The colorful, stained windows - save for one - break apart;
----and standing before me with a presence that totally overshadows any of the enemies that I have met before up until this point appears before me out of the glimmering ether.



------It is a youthful-looking man garbed in in majestic, shining golden armor.



"I am surprisingly intrigued by you. Are you secretly a wolf who has gotten themself mixed up in a pack of dirty mongrels who mindlessly gnaw at dry bones looking for meat?" The man peers at me. He grins proudly, and there is a haughty and somewhat dangerous glimmer in his blood-red eyes. His aura is powerful and overwhelming, and it seems as if it would vaporize anything that dared to touch him. "We shall see, won't we? I certainly hope you are not as boring as you appear. It would not be a wise move to disappoint me."


Even though he said something so dangerous sounding, he does not hesitate to reach down with a gauntlet-covered hand and compel me to stand. The hand he touches burns with pain like it has been sliced open with a hot knife, and a mysterious crest the color of raw flesh appears on the back of my hand.


Sudden movement catches our attention. The construct that nearly stole my life from before clatters about like a dancing skeleton and makes a beeline for me. I tense up involuntarily, the memory of it nearly killing me moments ago still fresh in my mind.


He steps forward, oozing confidence and might. "Stand your ground, welp. Don't act so shamefully. You are now my Master, as evidenced by that stigmata that marks you. Stand tall - I won't have a weakling like this cut you down so early into the Heaven's Feel."


The marionette thrusts a razor-sharp spindly limb like a bullet, meant to take my life-!


-and it stops short, held back from making the deathblow by being held in the powerful grip of the golden man.


He twists his wrist-


-and the doll's arm is broken with a sound that resembles the snapping of bone far too much.


The man flicks his arm and the doll is tossed up into the air like a softball. A split-second later a flash of gold cuts through the air and the doll has been cleanly bisected in two by a glimmering and beautiful sword. The two halves of the doll clutter to the ground with a hollow sound.


----and then the man in golden armor callously stomps the head into a hundred pieces.


I'm in awe of how easily and thoroughly he thrashed his opponent. It's almost unfair how trivial it was. The man does not share my wonder, and instead merely scoffs.


"See? Let this be a lesson, Master: A pale imitation like this has no chance against a real Hero. With me at your side, we'll be certain to win this little contest - I can guarantee you that."






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And thus began the adventures of Protagonist and Archer!Gilgamesh.
 
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<a href='http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch?v=D6TUGf8Sv6g&feature=related' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>IIIIIT's PREP TIME!</a>





As usual, in our private room on the second floor my Servant and I are once again organizing everything we know about our enemy for the upcoming Elimination Battle. This will undoubtedly be out toughest opponent yet, so any knowledge that we have on them that we scraped from all of our previous encounters is invaluable.


The Master seems, well, somewhat inept in regards to his Servant...but there is no way I am allowing myself to discount him simply because of zealotry - sometimes it's the single-track minds that one needs to watch out for the most because of their straightforwardness. To underestimate anyone - especially in something with as much at stake in it such as the Holy Grail War - can lead to a fatal error.



What I know about his Servant...

* Mystic Eyes; which was one of the very first of our hints...

* True Ancestor; a certain type of nature elemental associated with the earth itself that is incredibly dangerous...

---and most importantly---

* Blut die Schwester; the name of our opponent's Noble Phantasm, and quite possibly our key to victory if we play our cards right and have a little luck...



----With all of information gathered, I can close in on the true identity of our opponent. Taking into account everything we have learned, I have discerned that our enemy - The Berserker-class Servant we are facing-

-is none other than the famed Arcueid Brunestud herself.


"Oh, you just now figured all that out, Master?" My Servant smirks sinfully at me like a temptress with her lidded, crimson eyes while lounging like a prideful cat on the chaotically organized arranged desks. "If you wanted to know who Berserker is, all you had to do was ask me~"


The way her shapely, ivory-white legs are crossed; the way her feet casually flick with an idleness that makes me wary; the way her flowing cape drapes over her body in a way that tantalizingly covers and reveals her every curve in a way that would make artists and onlookers swoon; the way her sensually long fingers rythmically strum the top of the table as if playing a song known only to her; she fully exudes unbridled confidence and sexuality and danger by simply being there.


"What do you mean by that?"



My Servant slyly runs her fingers through her deep azure hair, clearly savoring my surprise, a reaction that she is incredibly fond of. "Oh, let's just say that I happen to know her very, very, very well. In her state, she has not a chance of winning, for there is nothing that I cannot tell you about her, and all that you have to do, is merely ask me. Aren't you the fortunate one to have a Servant like me, Master?"


Her eys widen with almost lustful anticipation at this notion, and Caster manically grins at this notion, revealing a mouth full of razor-sharp teeth.



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The memory of Ciel Elesia (Roa #17) as Caster.
 
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<a href='http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch/?v=E1nbLxUxQwI&feature=related' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>The moment I set foot in the Arena I am nearly suffocated with an overtaking sensation of danger.</a>


All of my instincts as a human being scream at me of the nigh danger, warning me of the impending Sword of Damocles hanging above my unsuspecting head, ready to fall and steal my life away at a moment's notice. I feel as if any second I could faint from the copious amounts of anxiety. Barely able to move a muscle of my own accord in this high-tension environment my eyes frantically scan left and right like a scared rabbit, desperately looking for any sign of the enemy lurking in the shadows like a venomous serpent.


----and I freeze on the spot when I spy out of the corner of my eye a gaunt, young man in all-black glare back at me sinisterly.


'Julius...'


A rush of motion - barely louder than a whisper - cuts through the air faster than I have a chance to react. I know in my heart that that is undoubtedly an attack, and an especially lethal one at that. I intuitively know that there is no way in hell that I am going to survive such a blow, that my fate was sealed the moment I foolishly entered the Arena-!


And yet---


'Master!'


-a powerful voice in my head-
-a familiar powerful voice in my head-


A loud sound - a sound of applied force, like the cracking of a whip or the edge of a sword crashing into a hefty post of solid wood - slices from behind me, a counter to the sneak attack launched by our unknown enemy. I do not know how I can tell, but I know in my gut that whatever it was that made an attempt on my life is immediately driven back by some fast thinking on my Servant's part.


The hostile presence that I could not detect is pushed back by another not-disimilar presence, further and further away from me. My Servant will not allow our partnership to be compromised by an ambush.


----Not after all we've been through so far.


I hear it all. An audible chorus of action sounds loudly through the otherwise empty Arena. I hear it all - the dancing of blades, the thumping of flesh, and the flailing of limbs smashing into each other. Judging only from sound alone even someone as inexperienced as I can figure out that the skill levels of the two foes are comparable. They cannot see the other that they are fighting, but that matters not one bit to either opponent. Through their honed skills and superhuman instincts the two unseen warriors mercilessly clash with one another using a hurricane of counters and parries undetecable to the other as if they are fighting an intangible, unseen and unforgiving storm that can shred the unwitting flesh from bones using only its own high-speed gusts of wind.


Yes- a discordant cacophony signifies the presence of intense battle before me, despite the obfusticated presences of both combatants. A heated duel for the ages is happening right in front of me, invisible to the naked eye.


Suddenly, a man in bright, flaming colors with fiery red hair appears from thin air - almost as if he was forcibly shaken of whatever technique he employed that allowed him to hide his presence from us. An expression of surprise twists his chiseled features, and he is not alone in his sentiments. Julius' eyes too noticeably widen the second the other figure - who can only be his own Servant - has their cover blown.


As a Master I must grudgingly commend them for their initiative to strike against me first- in spite of their violation of the rules according to SE.RA.PH. However, even though he had the advantage with that devastating would-be first strike of his, it seems as if he did not anticpate the capabilities of my own Servant.


...my Assassin.


The grimace of surprise is immediately dispelled from the enemy's face as he heartily laughs at the outcome of the situation as if someone just told him a hilarious joke that he had never heard before. "I say, I say now! This is a shocking turn of events! Not that that's a bad thing or anything like that, far from it! This is interesting! It's been far too long since someone has given me a fight like this, and this is probably the first time that anyone - period! - has ever intercepted me when I made myself one with the universe!! You actually forced me from self-isolation through your own force of will? That in of itself is truly commendable!"


"Assassin, watch yourself", the Harway hit-man reprimands, although it is unknown whether it is because of the threat my own Assassin still poses or because of his Assassin's newfound boisterous glee.


The Servant blows off Julius and continues speaking anyway as he readies himself to a combat stance that makes him appear as firm as a mountain, "As one whose very existence slinks about in the shadows and strikes without sentiment or second-thought as you this will surely fly in the face of your very nature, but hear me out: Servant of the darkness, let me see thee who has struck my heart so and proven to be such a worthy adversary with my own eyes before we resume our deathmatch for the Holy Grail."


For a moment, I almost do not expect a reply. I'm positive that Julius certainly did not expect one either.


And yet-


From above my shoulder - like a miniaturized moon orbiting around me - a white mask shaped like a skull appears from nowhere. Following this, the rest of my Servant's body materializes, revealing his impressive form to all that are watching our conflict. Taller than me by at least a head and wrapped in an obscuring, aesthetically tattered-yet-durable cowl the color of the inkiest black midnight skys. He has strong looking, proportionally long limbs, and the imposing dark figure has many pouches of weapons in a plethora of shapes and sizes on hand - and he is undeniably a master with any of these items that he so chooses to utilize on the job. Daggers, bombs, poisons, knives, oils, axes and spears and scimitars and so much more- though his tools are many and his dark cape covers his form, he is by no means held back by any of that at all.


...in fact, that makes him all the more dangerous.


The tall man tilts his head slightly in my direction, putting my safety first and foremost so that he can look over my condition to insure that I am unharmed from the brief skirmish. Satisfied with this, he turns and once again faces Julius' Servant's gaze.


"As a practicioner of my trade I give few words to my foes - but since your skills impressed me, Martial Artist, just this once I shall make a very special exception:" he says in a slightly accented voice as he stares at his rival from behind the empty sockets of the bone mask, like the very persona of death he embodies. "I have many names, and am known by many more titles. Knowing them will not help you in the slightest, for that is the way I am meant to be. But still, know this; I am the one that history has come to recognize as the first lord and Grand Master of the fortress of Alamut..."


Finally alerted to unauthorized combat in the Arena, <a href='http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch?v=H_tBf1iPIDw&feature=related' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>the world turns red as SE.RA.PH begins to count down.</a>


Assassin reaches into one of his sashes and produces a wicked looking short sword as the other tenses up like a loaded rifle, "...I will show you what a real assassin is like. For I am the founder of the Hashashin..."



"I am Hassan i-Sabbah."








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Not just any Hassan i-Sabbah, THE Hassan i-Sabbah.
 
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"Aaaannnnd that'll be 2,537 yen."


"Jeez," I mumble under my breath as I fish through my pockets for the exact change, "The food sold at the comissary is such a rip-off..."


"What was that~?" The cashier's voice slips to a dangerous tone and I see a large vein pulsate threateningly in her forehead. Her smiling face causes a dissonance with her attitude and foreboding aura and sets off alarm bells in my subconscious.


Then her eyebrow twitches.


...and I realize that I just messed up. Big time.


"Oh nothing, nothing, nothing! Nothing at all! Hahahahaha!...heheheh..." I chuckle nervously, foist the money off on her and then make a beeline for the exit without daring to look back.


"Seriously, how can you charge this much for digital representations of food?" I complain as I stare at the goods I just paid through the nose for. Granted, I did buy a lot, but that doesn't change the fact that those prices were stil enough to nearly make me choke. My wallet will suffer for this, that's a guarantee. Although I should be able to take relief in the fact that food is not a necessary commodity in the Moon Cell, I am unable to because of the way my Serv- uh...partner, rather - behaves.


I walk up the stairs as usual, I use the keycard for Classroom 2-B as usual, the door to my private room opens as usual, and I step inside as usual. And as usual, she is just lying around, bored-looking as ever.

It's still a lot better than when she suddenly decides to roam around of her own accord will doing God-knows to whoever-she-wants.


...those rumors still haven't stopped circulating, and aren't likely to anytime soon if she keeps this up.


"They really jacked up those prices. You're killing me here, you know that?"


"That's very witty. You come up with that on your own, or did you have to ask Rani for creative assistance?" Thoroughly disinterested, she stares blankly at me in a way that resembles the expression of a bored cat. The only bit of interest she is showing me is how she is subtly eyeballing the food I have brought up. "Take it easy - it's not as if it's actually your money you're spending. If you need anymore just spend a few hours in the Arena killing things and you'll do fine."


Ignoring her deadpan barb with my usual tact and a brief "Here. Don't drop it", I reach into the lunchsack and casually toss her requested lunch items towards her.


Of course, the young woman in the kimono and the red bomber jacker catches the bottled water and the strawberry flavored Haagen-Daas with no effort at all.


"I might as well ask, since I can't really do anything to control you. How many has it been so far?"


Our relationship is well, complicated. Sure, I might have the Command Seals - glorified tattoos in my situation - and she did show up in my moment of need, but she is certainly not a "Servant" and will not allow herself to be addressed or referred to as one. My title as Master is just that, only a title. We're not a real Master/Servant team, we're more like two people that use each other temporarily to get by. Mutual gain and all that. Plus, the one reason that she has for sticking around with me is that she needs to accomplish her quota of killing off a set number of Holy Grail War participants in order to be "freed" from her current circumstances and because I am her "Master" in name only. In fact, I think the only reason that I haven't fallen victim to her as prey is because I don't have an official Servant besides her, making me not qualify for her requirements.


----I still thank my lucky stars for that when I sleep at night and she's out prowling around like a nocturnal predator.


"Not counting our obligatory weekly elimination battles, 37. I still have a ways to go before I can get out of here." She replies after swallowing a mouthful of water and ice cream. "Don't worry - even if I reach the number before you win, I'll still stick around until the end even if I'm not obligated to."


"Well, at the very least that's good to know."


"...even though frankly I'd rather leave this place and everyone in it as soon as it is possible."


I sigh dejectedly. "Now I know why you're called 'Monster'..."


"Resorting to name calling? How juvenille and unbecoming of you, 'Master'."


...it's going to be a long Grail War.


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A famous face from Type-MOON as well.

No prizes for guessing this one. :p
 

zeebee1

Well-Known Member
#9
If you use the protagonist then the servant is stuck at level one. Besides, despite common belief Gilgamesh has stats worth of an Archer. In other words he is nothing without his weapons. So no casually snapping things in half.
 
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*disapproving glare from The King*

:D

/not serious

..if you wanna nitpick about it, then be my guess. But bear in mind that E-ranked strength is still greater than what a normal human is capable of. Plus, arms can be broken if twisted in a certain way with enough force applied to them. And the preliminary dolls (which are watered-down wireframe copies of Servants and pretty flimsy in their standard form) are certainly nothing in comparison with an actual Servant - even one that has lower ranks due to Protag's limitations - if we choose to ignore gameplay/story segregation for the sake of storytelling.

I digress, though. And thanks for bringing up a point.
 

Avider

Well-Known Member
#11
Besides, despite common belief Gilgamesh has sstats worth of an Archer.
Point in fact, your uncommon belief is wrong.

STR: B
END: B
AGI: B
MGI: A
LCK: A
 

trevelyan1983

Well-Known Member
#12
My goodness, those stats are good enough to belong to a Saber. He could certainly ruin someone's shit with his bare hands.
 

zeebee1

Well-Known Member
#14
Someone said not to use the Type-Moon wikia and listed another one. I guess I shouldn't listen to Charon anymore. Or that nobody who said the wikia was untrustworthy.
 

zeebee1

Well-Known Member
#16
I saw one with that. But Waver somehow showed up as the Protagonist.
 

Epsilon

Well-Known Member
#17
I wouldn't mind hearing how a Large Ham like Alexander would talk smack to the Buddha himself and shoot down Twice's philosophy.
 

Avider

Well-Known Member
#18
zeebee1 said:
Someone said not to use the Type-Moon wikia and listed another one. I guess I shouldn't listen to Charon anymore. Or that nobody who said the wikia was untrustworthy.
Or maybe you should use your head.
 
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"Still, you are the rightful victor. As such, you may do whatever you want with the Holy Grail," Twice Peaceman articulates like an orator from the towering pile of stone sarcophagi he is standing on, "The only thing I will ask of you to do when you enter Angelica Cage is to input only one command, and then you may use it however you see fit:"

<a href='http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch/?v=ZWTO4mk6UrM' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>"Don't stop."</a>

The implications of Twice's request hits me hard. Hard enough to make me remember what just happened before we entered the gateway...


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Our group of three charges down the shimmering hallway - a hallway that seems to stretch for miles into the infinite abyss of the moon. All around us are the sparks and flashes of a plethora of unfamiliar images, with far too many of them for me to even begin counting they are as plentiful and varied in subject matter as there are stars in the night sky.


----I see a group of men encircle a table signing an important-looking piece of parchment.

----Then; hundreds of weary workers trudge to stack thousands of stone blocks on top of each other to form the pyramid they are in the process of building.

----Another scene, this time a man labors to paint a ceiling above him with vibrant, poignant images.

----The local populace of some distant and foreign country fights the army of another foreign and distant in country in what is more akin to a one-sided slaughter than a legitimate battle.

----This time; massive crowd enthusiastically cheers at a rally, though the cause they are pushing for escapes me in a brief moment that I am allowed to ponder the picture.

----A gargantuan hunk of a glacier plunges into the sea with a cataclysmic splash.

----A child wrapped in swaddling clothes breathes in his first breaths of life in the dark shelter of a cave.


...These are all scenes from Earth's distant past, no doubt recorded by the computer we are in the moment they happened.

"Look around," Gilgamesh proudly orders with a compelling voice, "This is this world you have inherited, Master. These are the fruits of your labors. You have been fighting for this, haven't you? The opportunity to change the the world as you see fit according to your will?"

"After all, this is your right as the winner of the Holy Grail War. This is a prize that you have earned. Embrace this all equally as you have come to embrace yourself," He continues to tell me wisely as we continue our journey down the glowing corridor, "Disregard any aprehension that you might have, even though I am certain that you have expelled all doubts by now. There is nothing objectively wrong with wanting to leave your mark on the world, something that will leave a lasting impression as proof that you once were. That is one of the reasons mankind has an inherent fear of death since the dawn of time, one of the reasons that they futilely sought out immortality as a solution. Though humans cannot help but fear death's inevitability, we should also take care to ultimately relish life."

"...That is the reason I accepted a Contract with you in the first place. Even though you were initially just one in a sea of faceless others and should have been beneath my notice as a higher being -- little more than a many puppet-wielding puppet -- there was something much more in you that surpassed a simple base instinct to live through a fatal turn of events that is instilled in all living things. There was a spark. A conscious will and desire in a creation of some heavenly body that grew past its original role that wanted more than it was dealt, and that in turn would eventually go on to partake in a journey of self-growth and discovery with a king by their side......it seems quite familiar to me."

"So go on. Hold your head high, Master. Be proud of yourself and what you have accomplished, and remember that you have surpassed all others before you and have won the Holy Grail."

The King of Heroes smiles, but it is not the condescending sort that he reserves for our foes or the perpetually smug grin that he seems so fond of wearing.

No, it is a genuinely proud smile.

"But more importantly than that, you have earned my respect."

The corridor shifts and our journey suddenly has us ascending higher and higher. It goes on for so long and climbs such great heights above the neverending void it suspends over, but in no time at all we can practically reach out and touch the moon above our heads glimmering in the darkness. We go up, up, up; up to our final destination, up the stairway to heaven itself -- the stairway to Heaven's Feel.

Gilgamesh spares some final words of encouragement underlaid with eagerness and hints of nostalgia and finality directly at me. "Let us charge into the Cedar Forest one more time and see what awaits us."


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"This...is what you want?" I reply to Twice's request with an unsteady tone, " 'Don't stop...?' "

"Correct." Twice confirms my question. "Conflict encourages growth and strength of will, and you are the thesis of this belief of mine. You are the living proof that this theory is true."

I...how can I react to that? How am I supposed to react, period?

"You are here in the position you are now as a result of conflict. You surviving -- and thriving -- all the way to this point is the byproduct of violence. You are a winner through and through, and all those who you faced were losers. Week after week you lived, they died, et cetera et cetera. You were literally nothing before, nothing but a menial NPC, but you overcame that role imposed on you by the SE.RA.PH itself and grew into something else entirely. You are the fish that crawled from the digital sea, the thistle that grew from the harshness of the mountain."


...I cannot refute anything he says.


"Your birth is an anomaly not unlike my own. A coincidence. But the fact that you grew and grew while dominating everything else before you finally came here is not. The strong distinguish themselves from the mindless crowds and graduate from ordinary to extraordinary, and though your origins might be plain you are certainly anything but."

"This is what humanity needs now more than ever. In order to cure ourselves of these stifling times, we need to inflict war so great on Earth that humanity will never heal from the scars. Only something of that scale can save us. In order to overcome this stagnation that is slowly suffocating all of the human race we need to instill conflict. Great conflict. A brutal war to end all wars. A war in which anyone can survive if they are strong enough is the only sort of treatment that I can prescribe for our dying world."

"Endless war...?" Rani says under her breath with concern evident in her voice, her deep-plum eyes lost contemplating the doctor's thought-provoking, dangerous words. The concept seems downright disagreeable to her.


...so why do I have these doubts of my own? Do I still need time to gather my thoughts?


"That is why I want you to tell them all 'Don't stop.' I want you to tell the rest of the world to never stop. Tell them to never stop running on the road of war even if their path ends in ruin."

What do I do in the face of this? What can I say? What Twice says isn't right, not one bit, but I certainly can't say he's wrong either. If fact, I would even have to go so far as to say that Twice understands perfectly what he is talking about. He is not a fanatic who adamantly believes his cause is right and just, he adopts his outlook based on the scientist that he is, viewing this as a necessity with that clinical air of his. Twice is the most reasonable person that I have ever known in my life. Everything he has said to me has merit.

It's true- in order to become a finalist I have had to win battles multiple times, life-or-death battles, too, and each time I won I took a life, crushed a dream -- no, I denied it -- on my way to the next opponent. At first I had nothing to drive me besides a stubborn survival instinct and a nagging, burning desire to understand just what exactly I was. No matter how much I would want to deny it, the Grail War and everything that makes it what it is was instrumental in my development. This all fits in perfectly with what Twice has been saying all this time.

--------But just because someone is reasonable doesn't mean that they are sane.

There is no way that I can deny the fact that I had to destroy lives to get to my position. It hurt at first. It hurt so terribly much, even with Archer's self-confidence -- although a normal person would describe that as arrogance -- to serve as an emotional crutch. With the Grail War as a backdrop I came to understand myself and the world around me, all the while I had no other choice than to continue to participate.

No- I did have a choice. Everyone has a choice. And the choice I chose...was to kill.

Still...even though I killed and killed many times, even though I am the perfect textbook example of Twice's theory......I didn't come here to wish for death. As the one who made the conscious decision to snuff out the lives of my opponents, as one who grew uncomfortably used to that prospect, I know more than anyone else that I do not want that.

Rin Tohsaka once said that Twice H. Peaceman and I were similar. She may be right about that. We both understand the necessity of conflict and how it stimulates change in a survival-of-the-fittest sort of way, we both find the entire concept of death furthering progress unappealing, and it is the only option that we have experienced and know of at this time.


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But...

"Just because something is an answer doesn't mean it is right. That is the difference between you and me. Unlike you I refuse to let the killing go on any longer. You think that this is the only solution. World War isn't the answer, Twice. I know death is way too prevalent in the world beyond the Moon Cell, and the Holy Grail War only perpetuates this violence. That is why I cannot condone the Holy Grail War. That is why I am going to put a stop to it."

"You also made a glaring mistake." I declare. "A scientist shouldn't cherry pick instances of data in favor of their theory to support their hypothesis while disregarding others, doctor. You've overlooked the fact that I am not the only result of the Moon Cell's experiment here." I say to Twice, whose eyes seem to widen ever so slightly at my accusation. He is not the only one who does this.


------I walk a few steps to her and point right at Rani.


She gasps when I do so, quite surprised by my actions and sudden initiative. I continue to talk, resuming eye contact with the man in the lab coat.

"This War has also proved that humans can find a way. The fact that this girl is alive and with me today in the face of the Grail War system when she should have died if we went along with it is conclusive that there is something more for humanity, that we shouldn't have to resort to 'war to end all wars.' She became a person as a result of nurturing and mutual compassion, not because she had to carve a swarth through her foes. Without that, she would still be a empty, lost doll who would not know what it's like to live. It doesn't matter that violence is what caused her to end up in her original position because that aspect of her past is not what defines her."

"Twice H. Peaceman, I'll take my chances with humanity because she is MY proof."

The doctor-shaped NPC is silent for a moment. But it is only just a moment. "I see that you are adamant in your position against me. I doubt that I will be able to change your mind if you are so steadfast in your stance." Twice admits as he smooths his tie impassively, not once losing his composure. From the way he acts, it is clear that he sees this all as just another outcome of his grand experiment -- undesired, but not unexpected. "Perhaps your companion will be a bit more lenient and understanding of what is at stake. What are your thoughts, Servant? Surely a being as proud as yourself has an opinion on all this?"

Gilgamesh curtly answer's Twice's question. "I am as wise am I am powerful, thus I can appreciate good idealogical discourse as much as the next king. But let us get to get to the heart of the matter... You are clearly an intelligent man who has given careful thought to all of this, and I agree with what you are saying for the most part. If it were up to me to change this far-gone world then I too would probably adopt a strategy similar to your methods in order to cull the weak chaff from the strong wheat to instigate a new age of prosperity."

What Gilgamesh just said can essentially be boiled down to is that he would be in favor of Twice's plan to sow chaos. Even so, there is no need for me to worry because the second this occurs to me I am immediately reassured by Gilgamesh's opinions. Opinions which are not liable to change any time soon.

"What concerns me the most, however, is the fact that you are telling us what we should do with our prize. You're trying to share in the usage of our prize, trying to sneak your way in amongst our victory." The blonde Archer's glare is so disapproving that if looks could kill then Twice would have fallen over dead right there on the spot. "How dare you try to take what does not belong to you."

"The Grail will not be shared with you because a prize as grand as it belongs soley to the King, and whomever he decides to share it with. And I have no intention of sharing it with the likes of you. My Master can do what they please with the Grail. They can do whatever they want with its world-altering powers, even if that decision disregards your own plans for humanity.

"Though I used to be King of all the land I have no interest in the world outside. I am, after all, limited to these digital planes since I am just an incredibly accurate replica of the original who died millenia ago. True resurrection would be pointless in the end with the world in such a despicable state, even with immortality. But in here..."

He grins widely. His grin is wider than any I have ever seen on his face. Gilgamesh's expression is a downright gleeful amalgam of juvenile excitment -- like when a child is presented a fabulous new toy young -- and boundless greed tinged with a palpable hint of bloodlust.

...It's times like these that I'm so glad that he's on my side.

"This is the history of everything. Everything that ever was and ever will be resides in the depths of the Moon Cell. Nothing is impossible to create in here. This fitting throne will suit me just fine."

"I will oppose you because you don't fool around with a King's property, you conceited mongrel."

"So there is no changing any of your minds, then." In the face of the King of Heroes' bold, declatory threats that I have little doubt he will be able to carry out Twice is unshakable as ever. "Oh course, even if you were sympathetic to my way of thinking there is still the matter of there being two Masters that remain." He folds his arms and hops from his perch, one step at a time. "Rules are rules and must be followed. Unfortunately for you, not even this one has a loophole that can be exploited to escape one last bout of violence. No matter what any of us thinks, even if we did come to an agreement, someone will still need to die."

Twice seemingly idly pushes his glasses up the bridge of his nose. "Come," He blandly intones. <a href='http://www.youtuberepeat.com/watch/?v=gczEc86tZ4Q' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>"It's time to fight again."</a>

A glowing pillar of searing light explodes outward a few feet from in front of Twice, heralding the arrival of his Servant. The prana spreading out from it like the shockwave of an erupting volcano is immense, overwhelming, and radiantly beautiful like the light of the sun itself and it puts to shame the auras of all other enemies that I have fought up to this point. All I can is brace myself for fight of my life as I await the arrival of this powerful foe.

"Twice...? That's you, isn't it?"

A voice as pure as the spring asks, a voice that sounds incredibly weary, as if a great boulder were slowly crushing her, not enough to kill, but enough to weigh down her very soul.

"Are you still doing this... How long has it been...?"

Her skin is creamy white. Her hair is like a blooming flower in the vibrancy of its color. She is garbed in an absolutely gorgeous long and flowing blue kimono that exudes regality, with her appearance of divine importance accentuated with an elegant headdress sitting atop her head like a luxurious palace in miniature. But her most striking features------are her ears and tail which are covered in luxurious, soft fur.

"How long has it been, Twice...?" The young woman repeats, her wide, tired eyes sparkle with unshed tears, her voice cracks pitifully with pent-up emotions.

"Far too soon to resume the killing, Tamamo."
 

zeebee1

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#20
It's a good thing that the Protagonist was given the victory in canon, because that's the only way he's going to win if she's a t full power.
 

Amodelsino

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#21
zeebee1 said:
It's a good thing that the Protagonist was given the victory in canon, because that's the only way he's going to win if she's a t full power.
Yeah, I mean it's not like Gilgamesh has items and weapons specifically designed to take down Divine beings.

Oh wait.
 

zeebee1

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#22
There's a difference between Hercules and a full powered Extra/Caster.
 

NeoSeether

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#23
zeebee1 said:
There's a difference between Hercules and a full powered Extra/Caster.
Four words:

Gameplay mechanics and plot segregation.
 
#24
>implying Moon Cell can replicate anything close to a full-powered goddess Tamamo

Not that what it can't get nightmarishly close enough for bricks to be shat, but still, that's why she's placed in the class container of Saver as opposed to being a true divine being. It's the closest she can get to her full-strength, and even then she's still nowhere near her full potential because of multiple reasons.
 
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