Naruto Future Lost

Time Shifter

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#26
Well, to add an alternative opinion, I'm enjoying this. I recall reading the original a while back, and I like the basic idea of Senju and Uchiha at war, tearing the village apart. Split this between prologue and first chapter however you need to. I don't care much what it's called, just that it's fun to read. And so far it is.
 

EagleCeres

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#27
Glad to see you bring in this refreshing idea to the fore and forum, Meinos.

Points of Note:
- Konoha Civil War creating three (not two) factions, love it!
- Naruto not taken in by the Sandaime (or Danzo), now that is something really out of left field in comparison to other stories, kudos!.
- Naruto flipping the middle finger to the classic dream of him and THE Hokage HAT, again out of left field, but works so well in how he's supported and become the new heart of the people left rebuilding Konoha.
- TenTen being the childhood friend that wants moar, and is willing to be aggressive about taking the next step... MOAR!!!
- Child Soldiers, balanced out with a "civilian" job... out of need and not just because of uber militaristic tendencies.

I like the pacing, sure there are some plot holes... but I don't expect them to be explained and/or addressed immediately, please don't leave us hanging too long there. A redeemed Mizuki, one of the few authors that has been able to do it well, and that aborted face/heel turn gave him some well done gravitas and increased his likeability.

Questions:
- What Clans followed the Uchiha?
- Where are the rest of the canon Konoha11/Rookie 9? (can't wait to see how they developed)
- What of the other popular/named Jounin Senseis?
- Danzo seems to have more leverage/weight on "Clan Senju" politics... wonder what other aces he has in the hole.
- What of Orochimaru, Tsunade and Jiraya?

Keep up the great work Sir!
 

rukia8492

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#28
pid='1150079' dateline='1364243921' said:
Darksnider05 said:
Why would Shinobi refer to ptsd as ptsd and I have to say it comes across as a buzz word. Someone said Jesus kinda out of place.

Ptsd probably shouldn't get thrown around unless you have direct experience with it and have a really good idea on what causes it.

Seeing a single person die yeah not so much. Long term combat with very little down time is where your going to find your bad cases of it.
I did my thesis on PTSD. It's not something that's exclusive to soldiers. They just have many more chances of contracting it.
As someone here who actually has a mild case of PTSD i can honestly say that it can come from even a single event, so darksnder05 dont spread wrong information about it.

there are a few on here who know me well enough that they know the exact reason i have PTSD and yes it came from a single event.

keep writing Meinos Kaen, im enjoying this.
 

Meinos Kaen

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#29
Last half of chapter 1. Enjoy!

“Now it’s three on one, Sharingan-san.” ‘How does a member of the Senju possess the Sharingan?’ TenTen mused, knowing that even with Naruto and Mizuki-sensei it wasn’t going to be an easy battle. Also, this was the first time in her whole life she was going to be using her techniques outside of sparring. The thought made her nervous.

“Still doesn’t change anything.” Kakashi deadpanned, taking a single step forward. “And need I to remind you I only need Mizuki alive.”

“... And need I to remind you...” Mizuki breathed deeply in and out, banishing the left-over pain. Then, he raised his hands and started going through hand-seals. “That we don’t care if you live or die at all!” TenTen and Naruto jumped to opposite sides, left and right of Mizuki, just as the teacher drew in breath. “Ninpo! Enmaku no Jutsu!”(1) When he opened his mouth again not air but a thick cloud of smoke got out, filling the clearing and hiding everything from Kakashi’s sight.

‘A high-level smoke-screen. He’s better than I thought.’ Kakashi stepped back and then immediately ducked, dodging two kunai flying his way, coming from different directions. ‘They know that a Sharingan’s user POV is the same as any regular person. They’re strangely prepared.’ Kakashi took several steps back, dodging a volley of Shuriken that embedded themselves into the ground where he had been standing. His right ear twitched, having caught a sound. ‘Good thing I don’t rely on sight only like the average Uchiha.’ Kakashi launched himself in the direction of the sound, finding a startled Naruto who narrowly blocked a stab at his mid-section with his hands grabbing on Kakashi’s own one but he could do nothing to avoid the elbow to the face which sent him rolling on the ground... And then disappearing in a cloud of smoke.

‘Kage Bunshin. I didn’t notice when he used it.’ Kakashi observed as three Naruto suddenly came out of the smoke and rushed him from different angles. Pivoting on himself, Kakashi back-handed one hard in the face and then threw one of his legs backward for a mule kick, dispelling the first two. The third he met in close combat, kunai on kunai. “Your timing needs work.”

“Mind your own business. You Senju bastards seem quite used to doing that.” Naruto retorted, pushing forward with his kunai. “Destroying the village without even evacuating the civilians. Kudos for the surprise factor, but what kind of evil bastard does that?”

“... You don’t know the reason why the Hokage made that decision.” Kakashi’s eyes narrowed and suddenly gave in, making Naruto lose balance for a split second, which was all the Jounin needed to kick him under the jaw and send him sprawling to the ground. “And you never will. So, don’t you dare judge him.”

“I’ll do... What I want.” Naruto spat out as he got back on his feet, while Kakashi bent his body to avoid more projectile weapons. “You lost the right to order us around when you disappeared... Not that we would have let you do so, after that day.”

“True.” The Senju faction had foreseen that, had they remained in Konoha after having sparked the battle, they would have had a civilian riot on their hands on top of the civil war. A distraction that they couldn’t allow themselves to entertain.

“Ninpou!” Kakashi raised his head, taking in Mizuki’s appearance, his hands going through his last handseal. “Shuriken Kage Bunshin no Jutsu!”

Kakashi’s eyes widened. ‘This is... Slightly bad.’ The amount of chakra Mizuki had just put into the technique didn’t bode well. The Jounin found himself weaving and dodging to the best of his abilities to avoid a shower of steel.

“Ninpou!” Only to have to renew his efforts. “Shuriken Kage Bunshin no Jutsu!”(2) Only for a little part of his brain to tell him that he had to go beyond that. If Mizuki’s was a shower, Naruto’s variation of the technique was a downpour. Kakashi had no choice but jump to dodge the hundreds of sharp weapons, exposing himself to another two projectile attacks from TenTen, one of which nicked him in the arm.

“Raaah!” And then to Mizuki’s follow up attack. A brief exchange of Taijutsu later, Kakashi was forcefully sent flying towards the ground. The Jounin rolled with the forced and diminished the damage. The smoke was clearing.

As it did, Kakashi thought, it seemed like the girl was the weapon specialist. He wondered why she had never bothered to learn the technique, if it was available to a person she seemed intimate with like Naruto.

Various puffs of smoke made him realize that she probably knew but hadn’t used it because she couldn’t. It wasn’t kunai she had been shooting. “Ninpou! Shuriken Kage Bunshin no Jutsu!” The chorus of similar voices was the prelude to an avalanche of steel.

“Gotcha!” Naruto cheered as he watched the thousands of weapons drop on Kakashi from every direction. He immediately dispelled his copies along with all their weapons, revealing a hole in the ground. “Feh. Should have known.”

“We must have hit him, though. He had less than a second to get away from that onslaught.” ‘No matter how many times I see it, I always remain shocked by how much chakra Naruto has. Using that combination of Henge, Kage Bunshin and Shuriken Kage Bunshin with that potency would have emptied me.’ Mizuki looked around, weapon at the ready as he prepared for Kakashi to appear again.

“Ah!” Only for a cry to echo from the foliage, from the direction TenTen had been hiding into. Naruto gasped.

“Ten-chan!” ‘How the hell?! She was hiding around-’

“She was sniping at me from a distance of more than five hundred meters? Impressive.” Naruto growled as Kakashi appeared from the ground behind him and Mizuki and in a puff of smoke on the other side of the clearing, holding a captive TenTen in front of him with a kunai to the neck. “But, you’re not the only one who can use Kage Bunshin, Naruto.”

“Leave her alone, you bastard!” Naruto roared, unsure upon which one of the two Kakashi to unleash his irritation.

“You’re not in the position to make any requests.” The original Kakashi stated, while his copy tightened his hold on the young kunoichi. “I’ll ask again. Who keeps the scroll?”

“Don’t move.” Kakashi didn’t have time to react, nor could he. Suddenly, it seemed like his body had lost the ability to move on his own for a few seconds after feeling something like a light electrical current going through his spine. “If you move, you die. If you try and harm TenTen further, you die. If you do anything aside from what I tell you to do, you die.”

“… Who are you?” ‘What’s wrong with my chakra?’ Kakashi didn’t risk do anything to defy the will of his attacker, because he felt his chakra coils in turmoil. Foreign chakra had been injected into his body, and after reaching a certain disposition, it had stopped moving.

“Turn around slowly.” The man ignored Kakashi’s question and gave him an order. Kakashi obeyed while he focused on the man’s voice, that sounded somewhat familiar, and he found himself face to face with a somewhat angry Umino Iruka, who was in a somewhat strange pose, his right arm stretched and his right hand open wide. “Hatake Kakashi.”

“Iruka… It’s been a long time.” Kakashi said, while he focused his senses on the chakra he felt coming from his opponent, and he could immediately understand that the man in front of him was no longer a simple Chunin teacher. “You seem to have gotten stronger.”

“You don’t experiment, refine and memorize all the techniques in the forbidden scroll without gaining something out of it, Hatake.” At those words, Kakashi’s visible eye widened a bit. It was an imperceptible change if not for Iruka. “Yes. Experiment, refine and memorize. Every and each one of them… Except for that one, of course.”

“… You…” Iruka seemed to be letting his chakra flare grow bigger and bigger by the second, and Kakashi was starting to get just what kind of level the man had reached in eight years.

“This is one of the techniques I learned. It basically lets you form little bombs of chakra in the opponent’s chakra system, in the proximity of important points of your nervous system. It was forbidden because there was a high risk of feed-back, but as I said, I refined every technique in the scroll.” Kakashi focused his eyes and he noticed threads of chakra coming out of Iruka’s fingers and extending and then entering his body from points on his back, he guessed. “Right now, I have the biggest one in the proximity of your spine.”

“… You seem to forget I still have a hostage.” Kakashi said, and Iruka chuckled.

“TenTen?” The scarred Chunin glanced in the direction of Kakashi’s copy, who was still restraining the young girl... Only to suddenly disappear in a puff of smoke. As the memories of the copy came back to him, Kakashi’s eyes widened.

“Sorry about that, guys. I guess I should have hidden further away.” TenTen said as she interrupted the flow of chakra to the strings that tied her buns into place, which had suddenly extended and hardened a few seconds before, shooting into Kakashi’s copy’s brain from under his jaw.

“... Impressive.” That wasn’t a mocking. Naruto he could accept, because of his heritage. Mizuki and Iruka had already been Chunin at the time of the Battle of Konoha. If unexpected, their growth wasn’t surprising. But for a girl from a civilian family to become so skilled and resourceful? And then there was their teamwork, their coordination. ‘This is bad. I will have to resort to Kamui to-’

“As I said, I could kill you easily, but I will let you go.” That declaration surprised the Jounin, who turned to Iruka again. “Eight years ago, you destroyed Konoha and renounced all your ties to it. Now the true children of the leaf are strong enough to make this statement.” Iruka’s voice turned venomous, and Kakashi felt the full dimension of the man’s chakra. “The Senju are no longer welcome in Konoha. We won’t pursue you, but leave us alone or we will defend ourselves. Am I clear, Hatake?”

“… Crystal.” Kakashi replied, as he felt a person shift beside him.

“Good. Now, I will not harm you, but…” Iruka dispelled the technique, and Kakashi was ready to go before an enormous gathering of chakra right behind his back startled him. He turned around in a flash, but he was too slow. “There’s someone who’s build up quite a lot of anger and stress in eight years, here. I can’t deny him a bit of relief.”

“Ahhhhhhhh!”

“Shit…!” Kakashi had never seen someone gather so much chakra into one arm. He knew the Akimichi could do something like, but at great risk for their lives, but the blonde in front of him had just done so without even breaking a sweat, and had hit him from below with an incredibly strong right hook that got him at his hip, and had sent him flying through the sky in the opposite direction from Konoha. ‘I wasn’t fast enough… Six ribs are gone.’

“… Ahhh.” Naruto watched the ex-Anbu fly away in the exact direction he had wanted to send him, and then he let out a roar to the sky. “Darn! That felt great!” Naruto said, then rotating his right arm to stretch it, only wincing as he realized that pumping all that chakra into his muscles with his less than perfect control had done a real number on them. “Ow. I wonder where he will land…”

-FutureLost-

‘This is gonna be close.’ Kakashi was descending to the ground with ever building up velocity, even if he was trying to slow himself down with a thick layer of chakra wrapped around his body. Fortunately, he recognized the meeting point with his team. He took out a whistle and blew it loudly. Four black shapes got out of the foliage under him, two of them crossing each other before separating, revealing a net that they stretched the more they moved away from each other. Kakashi turned to land on his unhurt side, and he managed to do so. “… Good job.”

“Captain, what happened?!” The medic of the group was immediately to his side, noticing immediately that there was something wrong with his posture as their two team-mates let him down slowly.

“I was met with resistance. Currently, retrieval of the scroll is impossible… Also, it would be useless.” ‘I have to report this to Hokage-sama as soon as possible.’

-FutureLost-

“You sure you're alright?”

“Yes, thanks. It was just that scratch on my neck.” TenTen did her best to tranquilize the doctor. She was a retired medic ninja who had worked at the hospital before the civil war and had made one hell of a career. She was now the head nurse of the rebuilt Konoha Hospital, and she was currently fussing over TenTen's injury.

“Hmm... Then we're done.” The older woman said, letting the forger get back on her feet.

“Thank you.” TenTen bowed her head as she got out of the room, leaving a thoughtful nurse alone in her office. It was probably the first time in years she healed a injury from a real shinobi fight.

“It was just a scratch, right?” As soon as she was out of the room, she was met with another overbearing person. She rolled her eyes and leaned her forehead against his own one.

“Yes, Naruto. It was just a scratch. My only regret is that I didn’t see that asshole’s face as hair-strings stabbed through his brain.” She grinned as she said that, earning an ‘Eeeeew’ from Naruto. “How's Mizuki-sensei?”

“They popped them out and then into place again. You wouldn’t believe the pain.” TenTen and Naruto turned to their right to witness Iruka and Mizuki approaching them. “I’ll need to not make them rest and be back in a few days for a check-up, but I should be back to 100% soon.” The silver-haired Chuunin said, flexing his fingers in front of his face. “... Hatake Kakashi. Can’t say I ever thought I’d ever be facing a living legend and live to talk about it.”

“Some living legend! We kicked his ass, and-Ah!” Naruto suddenly narrowed his eyes and with two steps was in his father figure's face. “What's this about trying, refining and memorizing?”

“Ah, that...” Iruka sighed, knowing this would come as soon as Naruto calmed down. “Well... One's got to have a hobby.”

“And you were chewing me out because I only learned the Kage Bunshin?!” Naruto turned around pouting and kicked the ground. “... Can I learn another technique from the scroll?”

“No.” Iruka replied and then laughed as Naruto's posture slumped. “Just go back home, the both of you. This has been a long night, and there’s probably going to be half of Konoha looking for you to know the details of the battle, tomorrow.” The nose-scarred teacher then started pushing Mizuki forward with one hand. “Have a good night, and don’t stay up too late!”

“Don't stay up too...”

“Late?”

TenTen got the meaning of those words immediately and blushed. Naruto just scratched the top of his head with a confused look on his face. “What would we be staying up late for?”

“N-Nevermind.” ‘Stupid thick-headed blondie.’ The kunoichi pouted, before deciding that she was entitled to at least a hint of romanticism after fighting to the death with a Jounin of the Senju. She took Naruto’s left arm and hooked it around her right one, much to his surprise. “... Walk me home.”

“Ehm, okay?” Naruto replied, flushing a little because TenTen was unintentionally pushing his arm against the side of her chest.

Unintentionally.

-FutureLost-

The walk from the hospital had been filled with nothing but silence for the two Chunin. Something was weighting heavily on Mizuki’s mind, and Iruka had respected his privacy... Until he was sure they were alone in the streets. “Are you alright, Mizuki?”

“... Does it show so much how miserable I am?” The teacher conceded, lowering his head. “I basically gave away everything for a chance to meet Tsubaki again... And now, I have nothing.”

“Hmmm... True. You were about to throw away what you built in this village, were ready to leave and side yourself with the people who destroyed it and left it to succumb in the first place... Tough position. We don't have death penalty, but exile would seem fitting.” Iruka stroked his chin in a thoughtful position. “Good thing we didn't tell the others anything, and we won’t.”

“We won't?” Mizuki raised his head in a flash, staring confused at Iruka.

“I won't if you won't. I didn't tell Naruto nor the nurse either, now, did I?” The brown-haired shinobi just winked at the confused Mizuki.

“But... Why?” Mizuki whispered out. “Not only did I want to defect, but-” Iruka just squeezed his shoulder and smiled.

“No one got hurt but you. And your intentions were good. Good enough. And I think you’re suffering enough knowing that you’re probably never going to see Tsubaki again.” Mizuki cringed at the low blow from Iruka. He guessed that was his way of punishing him. “No point adding salt to the wound.”

“... Yeah.” Mizuki sighed, moving a hand through his hair, moving the out of his face. Then, another subject came to his mind that he had to discuss with Iruka. “... Iruka, Naruto knows about the Kyuubi.”

“... I heard. I was watching the first part of the fight. You could have taken him.” Iruka hadn’t known either. It seemed like the only person Naruto had confided into was TenTen. “It’s weird that he didn’t come to me.”

“Also... I think he and the bijuu are on a first-name basis.” That caused Iruka to halt in his step for a second. Mizuki turned to him with a raised eyebrow. “I don’t know anyone in Konoha who’s named Kurama. Do you?”

“... No, I don’t.” ‘Naruto is on a first name basis with a bijuu.’ Iruka thought about it for a few seconds. Then, he started laughing out loud, much to Mizuki’s confusion. “This is... Ahahahah! Only Naruto could-Ahahahah!”

“... Yes, I guess if anyone could ever do something so weird, it would be him.” Mizuki had to agree. Still, he couldn’t help but wonder how the hell did that happen in the first place.

-FutureLost-

“Hmm... Damn, what am I gonna do with all this ramen?” Naruto joked out loud as he finished sorting through his presents with the biggest grin ever plastered on his face. In the end, he had stayed up late. Iruka hadn't joked when he had said that people were finally accepting him. Most of the presents, half of which was home made ramen ingredients, were accompanied by a letter of thanks, usually for having repaired or built them something.

Along with the ramen, some had given him clothes and tools. He finally had a brand new set of tools and some spares too. After putting everything in its place, he turned to the last two presents he had to open. TenTen's and Iruka's. The grin turned into a smile. “Heeeh... No offense to anyone, but you always leave the best for last.”

He opened TenTen's one first, unwrapping a rather large wooden box. He opened the box and his eyes gleamed. “Oh, Ten-chan...” His hands slowly moved to caress and touch the full set of carpentry tools that TenTen had gifted him with, each one glowing in the artificial light of his apartment. A hammer, a chisel, a back-saw, a screwdriver, and so on. There was a little piece of paper too.

He gently took it and opened it. As he thought, it was a message from TenTen. “'Dear Naruto, hope you enjoy my presents. They're custom-made carpenter tools. Ten-chan guaranteed that they will sustain your efforts for years to come. Also, they can conduct chakra. Happy Birthday.'” He was a bit taken back by the third sentence, then he broke into one of the largest grins ever. “Carpenter tools that I can also use as weapons. Ten-chan, you’re a genius! Noooow, to Iruka-senseiiiii...”

Naruto grinned and opened the big box in a flash, finding three different presents inside. One was a... “... No way.” His eyes opened wide as he laid eyes on a Deluxe Ichiraku pre-cooked bowl of ramen. “How the hell... How the hell did he find one? I thought...” His hands pulled out something else from the box. It was a frame with a picture which his copy of it had gotten lost in the destruction of his old apartment.

The picture featured five people only, including himself at seven. To him, at that age, the other four were all his world. He was standing in front, wearing his white shirt with an orange swirl and black shorts over his sandals. Behind him were standing a twelve years old Ichiraku Ayame and her father, which hadn't changed much in the years. Both died in the battle.

“... Iruka-sensei, you're cruel.” ‘And at the same time kind. I bet this is your own copy.’ There had been only four in existence, one was his own one that he had lost. Then there was the Ichiraku family's one, Iruka's one, and the last one had gone to the last person in the photo. “Old man...”

The Sandaime Hokage, who for the occasion had decided to remove his hat as they took the photo, displaying grey hair and a disposition for holding his pipe with just his lips. “... Just what the hell were you thinking?” The rage and sadness came back as he stared at Sarutobi's smiling figure, and he restrained himself from throwing away the frame. He settled it back down on the floor near the ramen. “What happened to you? Why did you do this?”

“You ask me, he must have been smoking some bad tobacco.” The feral voice in his mind expressed an opinion on his latest inquiry. “But we’re probably never going to know for sure. Unless you ask him directly.”

“Not an option, furball.” Naruto retorted, starting to put his presents away in rightful storing places. “Like that’s the only question that’s unanswered.”

“Yeah. Don’t know about other villages, but I would have expected at least the rock guys to jump at the chance to wipe those four faces off the face of the earth. On principle, you know?”

“Let’s just be thankful they didn’t, Kurama.” Naruto said, finishing the work quickly with the help of his Kage Bunshin and heading for his bed. “... I wonder what’s happening with the rest of the Fire Country. This cannot have gone unnoticed.”

“Naruto, you can wonder and wonder, but you know that the only way to know for sure is to leave the village. And no one has done that in years, now.” They didn’t have the luxury to send out scouting parties. The reviving Konoha had needed all their resources close to home, for rebuilding and protection.

“... Maybe we soon will.” Naruto stated out loud, finally slumping on his bed. “Reconstruction is over, after all. And we have a whole village of people able to defend themselves, now. And I can’t be the only one wondering...” The young ninja rotated his head till he was looking out of the window, towards the village wall, as if with will he could see through it and across all the miles that rested behind it. “What the hell is going on, out there?”

(1): Ninja Art - Smokescreen Technique
(2): Ninja Art - Shadow Shuriken Copy Technique
 

EagleCeres

Well-Known Member
#30
Love the update.

I think I'm seeing elements from more current chapters of the manga/anime; and I feel that they fit in seamlessly considering the militarized/defensive nature of current Konoha. Kudos!

Iruka as a badass (normal) leader type, about time he got some love.

I guess Konoha in general shouldn't be underestimated, not just "the #1 most unpredictable" ninja.

Bro!Kurama... for that, I am required to post the following :p


Keep up the good work MK!
 

Vikraal

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#31
What stops Pain from Invading Konoha?, Short from a Genjutsu from Tobio-to, they could have established a Akatsuki in Konoha by rallying the survivors and giving aid? [and killing Opposition]
Unless Pain died of sickness?, Even If he can just transform his body into a Robot, Unless the conditions for that is to be dead? Though Sasori is a Example of a Wooden Robot Body.
 

Nasuren

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#32
Paranoia. You have to remember that there's two 'outside' factions that are tearing up the country, I highly doubt that the village would be welcoming of a mysterious foreign ninja.
 

zeebee1

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#33
It wouldn't be too hard if Jiraiya refused to pick sides. Pein could establish himself as the man that would convince Jiraiya to join them. Though if he's in the Senju faction that plan wouldn't work. But the main thing is that Pein would want the Akatsuki to stay hidden until he was ready. Remember, Naruto is one of the lost that they need to capture. Capturing him too soon just means that they would have to keep him a prisoner.
 

Nasuren

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#34
...why would Pein try to join the village? Akatsuki, at this point, is a merc company before moving on to capture the Bijuu. A civil war on the mainland would both fill their coffers while ensuring that they are in position to wipe the Uchiha out. I don't see them actively making a move while there's people who can control the bijuu with their eyes.

At least not yet.
 
#35
...now I'm imaging Tobi acting as vendor to the Fire Daimyo
"...and only because we totally like your taste in fans, we'll offer a first-time client a free exterminatus! You heard me well, hire us to kill the Uchiha and we'll kill the Senju as well FOR FREE! Don't let escape this chance, we'll also throw in a tasteful 1000 hand-made origami collection and..."
 

Nasuren

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#36
More like they would be working for the Senju or Uchiha. The Daimayo is barely holding his own turf, let alone planning a genocide. I have no doubt that he can't afford them.
 
#37
The Daimyo is the same guy who was the main financial backer of Konoha. There is little to no doubt he could pay them. Especially since they would happily give him a discount.
 

Nasuren

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#38
With what? His country is in the middle of a civil war, with at least a third of it in a bandit style Sengoku era conflict. So how can he afford them when he can't afford to protect the land that hasn't been commandeered by the Senju or Uchiha?
 
#39
More or less the same way his ancestors did before the village era when such a situation was normal?
 

Nasuren

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#40
Original said that he was stuck behind his castle walls. In turn that means he only has enough troops to protect himself and not enough to go and take back turf from simple bandits.
 

zeebee1

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#41
From with we've seen of the feudal lords he'd have money because of exactly that. He'd hide in his castle and only open the doors for food and other resources. Depending on how much gold he had when this started he could still be rich.
 

Nasuren

Well-Known Member
#42
Have you seen the map in the original? He literally controls only a small area, and it doesn't seem big enough to actually grow enough crops for a standing army, not to mention that the land itself is a feudal lord's cash cow. With Bandits occupying most of the land, he literally has no money coming in and must pay more to risk bringing food in through bandit infested areas.

In other words, he losing money and I don't think he has infinite money.
 

Nasuren

Well-Known Member
#44
Then let me change the question then. Why would he want to hire Akatsuki? He can't hold onto territory if they liberate another area nor can he expect the assassination of one of the factions to help his situation.
 

zeebee1

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#45
If the Uchiha faction is dead then in theory the Senju faction, having a hokage, would retake Konoha and take back the country.
 

Nasuren

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#46
Except you forgot that the blame for the war is on both factions, and not just the Uchiha. Even though the Uchiha was planing a coup, it was the Senju who started the war suddenly, abandoned the village, help cause enough destabilization that the Damiyo couldn't keep order while capturing and controlling 1/3 of the country.

Yep, I can see how the Senju coming out on top benefits him.
 

Nasuren

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#48
Check the thread for the original Future Lost. The section of the country the village, Daimayo and the monks are in are occupied by multiple bandit groups.
 

zeebee1

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#49
The Fire Lord is a weak and stupid man. If someone tries just a little he'll believe that the Uchiha are to blame and that the Senju faction is full of saints.
 

Nasuren

Well-Known Member
#50
...or he could just as easily believe both are to blame before hand and refuse to change his mind.

Then again, that's if he's still alive. There's a good chance for a coup, considering how much power he would have lost to be in his current situation.
 
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