Harry Potter Harry and Ginerva

[zrike]

I was reading a fic and an idea just struck me. What if Harry and Ginerva were really the reincarnation of James and Lily? I realise the problem with Harry, but unless someone can come up with an explanation, I'm gonna say blame it on magic!

This would also give Harry a bit of an edge against voldemort if he and Ginerva started to remember theyre past lives (lord knows Harry will need whatever he can get if he's gonna survi-er, i mean win).

I'm not really into Harry/Ginerva(if you couldnt tell by my tendency not to call her Ginny), so I dont plan to flesh this idea out anymore then i have, but I couldnt resist throwing this out there once it struck me.

 

[AyanamiRei2]

You do know that James Potter died when Harry was a baby, on the night Voldie when to Grodic Hollow right? How do you expect a reincarnation to occur when said soul was not ready to be used, as in it was still alive when Harry was being born. That and if Ginny was the reincarnation of Lily then I would say, did she lose her capabilities when all she can ever think of is through her hormones?

 

[zrike]

First off, here are two quotes of my first post.
"I realise the problem with Harry, but unless someone can come up with an explanation, I'm gonna say blame it on magic!"

"I'm not really into Harry/Ginerva(if you couldnt tell by my tendency not to call her Ginny), so I dont plan to flesh this idea out anymore then i have"

And here is my reply to what you said.

" You do know that James Potter died when Harry was a baby, on the night Voldie when to Grodic Hollow right? How do you expect a reincarnation to occur when said soul was not ready to be used, as in it was still alive when Harry was being born"

Maybe the soul used a time turner?

"That and if Ginny was the reincarnation of Lily then I would say, did she lose her capabilities when all she can ever think of is through her hormones?"

Reincarnation can make you a completely different person- I look at it as the two getting the memories of theyre past lives- not as them becoming theyre past selves. Which is not to say theyre past selves wouldnt influence them (like, for instance, making them more likely to start a relationship), but they would still be who they became, not who they were.

Seriously though, This idea was just a thought I had that needed an outlet so i could stop thinking about it. I realise that my ideas usually are not very well thought out, but hey, so what? I'm a whifer, not a writer. I love thinking up what ifs for my own enjoyment, its just I'm not very good at details. If I were to wonder what if the sky was green, I would wonder what that would effect, not why the sky was green. Of course, this does not translate very well to writing, but I dont have a talent for said writing anyway.

 

[nuclear death frog]

Um, just to let you know, but it's Ginevra, not Ginerva.

 

[zrike]

Oh...that means ive thought it was Ginerva since all the way back to the second book...

 

[nuclear death frog]

Yeah, that's wrong. I don't think she would knowingly go in for a main-character name so similar to Minerva (McGonagall).

 

[SoftRogue]

" You do know that James Potter died when Harry was a baby, on the night Voldie when to Grodic Hollow right? How do you expect a reincarnation to occur when said soul was not ready to be used, as in it was still alive when Harry was being born"

Maybe the soul used a time turner?

Not that I like the pairing (seeing that Ginny is nothing more that a squeeing fangirl who only knows 'The Boy-Who-Lived'; something that Harry hates being) but here's an idea.

The simplest way is the fact that no one knows how Harry survived that night. Dumbledork thinks that it was his mothers love (but if this was so then why the hell is Harry praised for defeating Voldishorts when Lily should be the one). For your idea to work, simply have it so that Harry didn't survive. Then have James departing soul drawn to Harry's body (due to the power of the prophsy) and have his memories sealed or 'lost'.

 

[ttestagr]

Not that I like the pairing (seeing that Ginny is nothing more that a squeeing fangirl who only knows 'The Boy-Who-Lived'; something that Harry hates being) but here's an idea.

The simplest way is the fact that no one knows how Harry survived that night. Dumbledork thinks that it was his mothers love (but if this was so then why the hell is Harry praised for defeating Voldishorts when Lily should be the one). For your idea to work, simply have it so that Harry didn't survive. Then have James departing soul drawn to Harry's body (due to the power of the prophsy) and have his memories sealed or 'lost'.

*sigh*

First of all, I've said it before in other threads but Harry does not hate being the Boy Who Lived or famous until OoTP when the wizarding world turns on him because of bad press. And it is overstating the issue to say it was hate, more like annoyance or irritation. Once his press was good again, his issues about that were over.


The idea about Harry actually dying is a good one though. I agree that Lily deserves the credit for Voldemort's first defeat as well.

 

[SotF]

Well, the only reason she didn't was because the world needed a hero at the time so it got one, just one that may or may not have been the best one

 

[boghi8462]

You do know that James Potter died when Harry was a baby, on the night Voldie when to Grodic Hollow right? How do you expect a reincarnation to occur when said soul was not ready to be used, as in it was still alive when Harry was being born. That and if Ginny was the reincarnation of Lily then I would say, did she lose her capabilities when all she can ever think of is through her hormones?

While it's not reincarnation, The Lie I've Lived by jbern (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3384712/1/) has some elements from this idea. Too bad the author anounced it as a HP/FD fic, so no Lily anywhere. Well too bad for this idea. jbern anounced thet he would do a completly diferent Triwizard Tournament, cuz he finds the one we know boring, and I can't wait to see what he cooks up! After the sheer number of ideas he put in his fic "Bungle in the jungle", I'm don't think I'm going to be disapointed.

 

[voxdeo]

What if is parents cast some sort of spell to be able to help and guide Harry even if they die, not quite understanding how it works. This binds James soul to baby Harry's. Take the idea that magical mariges bind a couples souls together and Lilly's hanging around as well and some how winds up atached to Ginny, who is a couple months old when they die.

Harry has only consided Ginny as Ron's annoying kid/stalker sister when for some inexplicable reason he starts to feel atracted to her, at first he thinks it is a love potion, but after geting Madam Pomphery to check him out he thinks their normal and starts to date her.

Then they start to regain their memoris - so Harry is in a relationship with someone who is bothe his mum and an obsessed fan girl while being bothe himself and his dad!

Let the fun/ Mental trauma comence :rofl:

 

[AyanamiRei2]

If you want mental trauma, make it so that Harry is the reincarnation of Lily, where she found out she was barren and used an obsecure potion to allow her to be fertile enough to conceive a child, the price is she splits a small part of her soul for the unborn child to be conceived/used. That night Voldie send the killing curse and killed her, but instead of going to the after life, since she has Harry as some kind of Hocroux and her soul cant go back to her body, she had to merge with her split up soul, just as Voldie uses the AK on baby Harry, resulting in the magical backlash the reflected his AK back to him.

James who went up to the after life realized that Lily was not there went desperate to return to earth to look for her, but to stay on earth he has to anchor himself(soul) to someone who has just passed away, and the first opportunity he found he took it. Of course that happens to be little Ginny where she was about to be born, and since the Weasleys are cursed to never have girls, Ginny's real soul have actually passed on o the after life. And since James's soul is the one in the body now, it is still accepted as a guys' soul thus him/her(whatever) staying alive.

:evil: :evil: :evil:

 

[ttestagr]

If you want mental trauma, make it so that Harry is the reincarnation of Lily, where she found out she was barren and used an obsecure potion to allow her to be fertile enough to conceive a child, the price is she splits a small part of her soul for the unborn child to be conceived/used. That night Voldie send the killing curse and killed her, but instead of going to the after life, since she has Harry as some kind of Hocroux and her soul cant go back to her body, she had to merge with her split up soul, just as Voldie uses the AK on baby Harry, resulting in the magical backlash the reflected his AK back to him.

James who went up to the after life realized that Lily was not there went desperate to return to earth to look for her, but to stay on earth he has to anchor himself(soul) to someone who has just passed away, and the first opportunity he found he took it. Of course that happens to be little Ginny where she was about to be born, and since the Weasleys are cursed to never have girls, Ginny's real soul have actually passed on o the after life. And since James's soul is the one in the body now, it is still accepted as a guys' soul thus him/her(whatever) staying alive.

:evil: :evil: :evil:

That...


is a very interesting idea. Somebody please do this!

 

[lonetemplar]

That is a very interesting idea. More so if they start regaining memories of their past lives. Who knows how long it would take to recognize each other, though. And unless you make Ginny multi-orgasmic, any lemon scenes are gonna be a LONG way in the future. :snigger:

 

[ttestagr]

A lot of the Harry/Ginny fics have gotten cliched and boring. In the past six months I've seen maybe 3 good fics started with that ship. This idea would potentially be another one and should be encouraged.

 

[AyanamiRei2]

I had this idea in my head for quite awhile but never went to writing it out, that and the fact that I gave up writing fanfiction years ago, somewhere in 2004. :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: