Harry Potter Harry Potter and the Five Colors

[zerohour]

First off, this isn't Planeswalker!Harry. I'm just stealing the color wheel.

The basic idea is that the HP-verse has something similar to the color wheel, and that there were plenty of practicioners of each. However, there was a lot of tension/conflict/misunderstandings between them, until one day, four people decided to stop that.


Gryffindor: Red
Slytherin: Black
Ravenclaw: Blue
Hufflepuff: Green


Not a perfect match, since there are only four founders, though since Hogwarts is semi-sentient, and built to bring wizard and witches together, it could be the White element.

So everything was fine and in balance, with each of the colors being explored, so that they didn't fight each other all the time, but as the founders retired/died, they had to replace them with a headmaster, who is far less likely to attain the balance between the five colors. Plus, since they're likely to have some influence over their successor, it's likely to stay that way. Since they are in charge of molding young minds, their inclinations are likely to be passed on, to the point where other colors will slowly be filtered out.


Dumbledore: White
Grindelwald: Red? Not much details on him, but since he was involved in a wholescale war with the nazis, it seems appropriate.
Voldemort: Black

So, the world has become unbalanced, favoring White, which leads to a reactionary force of Red and Black, with black being the primary enemy/concern. Green and Blue are mostly neglected, possibly with Red as well.

There are still vestiges of each of the colors in the form of the houses, but since they aren't teaching about them, they remain undeveloped.

Until Harry, or more likely, Hermione ventures into the restricted section for something, and a few of the books deal with the philosophy of the colors, maybe with a few basic spells.

This could eventually lead to supermage!Harry, but in the context of this, it would take decades to master each of them and reconcile the opposing mindsets to attain true mastery.

A better option would be to have a group of them explore each aspect, and master them and work together, similar to the founders, to recreate a balanced magical world. Maybe they strive to attain mastery, later in life, but for now, they have bigger problems.




So what do you guys think? At the very least voice what color you think characters would be.

 

[shikimalord]

I think the idea could be interesting if done right, though it might require a good bit of alterations to fit the color wheel to some of the magics in Harry Potter.

Harry- white, mostly due to his ability with the patronus, though if he still has the horcrux in him, could be used as a way to give him ability in black magic.

Hermione- blue, mostly going by her intelligence.

Ron- red, mostly because of his temper and the fact that he really doesn't fit any other color.

Luna- tough, but I would say green her personality seems to have a serene nature to it.

Draco- he would probably prefer black, but I would say red because while he is destructive, he lacks the more subtle aspects of black.

 

[zerohour]

Well, it seems the genius of my idea has stunned most people into silence.

I think that fourth year would be a good starting point for this, since Harry and Hermione would be researching as much as they can, and they might get some inspiration from Fleur and Viktor.

What say you?

 

[GenocideHeart]

Dumbledore would be Blue. It's the color of planning and manipulation too, and for all that his cause may have been right, he went about it by tooling everyone, which slaps him squarely in the manipulative and shifty aspect of Blue.

If he were White, he'd have been a lot more straightforward and righteous, not said a ton of half truths and skulked around being all secretive.

Mind, he sucked bad at that as well, given how his plan nearly fell apart several times...

 

[zerohour]

It could be justified as White, as he was the guy in charge, and didn't really let anyone else work on his level, keeping them as subordinates.

Blue is probably a strong influence, but in this setting, he's forcing himself into the white mentality.

Then again, if we keep Grindelwald as Red, Dumbledore might have added some Blue to better counter him, and just kept it up after the war ended...

 

[Leonite]

Whydoes everything have to be monocoloured? I could easily see Dumbledore being a White and Blue mix.

Of course, I'm thinking in the Ravnica mindset, where everything was desgined for duel colours...

 

[GenocideHeart]

Whydoes everything have to be monocoloured? I could easily see Dumbledore being a White and Blue mix.

Of course, I'm thinking in the Ravnica mindset, where everything was desgined for duel colours...

White/blue? Seriously? Dumbledore has NOTHING in common with the Azorius. If he were in Ravnica he'd be Dimir through and through.

 

[zerohour]

Things are monocolored because Blue, Red, and Green have slowly been phased out. That doesn't mean that Dumbledore can't have some blue in him, or Red, or Green, or even black, but White and Black are the only predominant colors right now, and Voldemort is already filling the role of Black. White is just the defining characteristic of Dumbeldore, and if he's manipulative, or secretive, then those are supplements to his core nature as the authority figure, which is a White quality.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Things are monocolored because Blue, Red, and Green have slowly been phased out. That doesn't mean that Dumbledore can't have some blue in him, or Red, or Green, or even black, but White and Black are the only predominant colors right now, and Voldemort is already filling the role of Black. White is just the defining characteristic of Dumbeldore, and if he's manipulative, or secretive, then those are supplements to his core nature as the authority figure, which is a White quality.

Too bad Blue is the color most tied to the 'end justifies the means' mentality that Dumbledore displayed. Him being in charge didn't change anything - he was so extraordinarily ineffective at being an authority figure, consistently making things WORSE with a behavior that violently clashes with the very nature of White, that he simply can't be pure white in any way.

At most I could see him as a UUU/W card. His base is blue, even if he's a rather clumsy blue. Doing the right thing is a very secondary thing to him compared to getting the job done - he even apologizes to Harry about it and admits that the way he acted was rotten. But he had to compromise because it had to be done. White would never have accepted such a shifty compromise - a White aligned person would have gone about it in a way that he/she felt was morally right, even if it killed him - because compromising on their morals, for hardcore White people, is worse than failing.

 

[Archanon]

Things are monocolored because Blue, Red, and Green have slowly been phased out.? That doesn't mean that Dumbledore can't have some blue in him, or Red, or Green, or even black, but White and Black are the only predominant colors right now, and Voldemort is already filling the role of Black.? White is just the defining characteristic of Dumbeldore, and if he's manipulative, or secretive, then those are supplements to his core nature as the authority figure, which is a White quality.

Too bad Blue is the color most tied to the 'end justifies the means' mentality that Dumbledore displayed. Him being in charge didn't change anything - he was so extraordinarily ineffective at being an authority figure, consistently making things WORSE with a behavior that violently clashes with the very nature of White, that he simply can't be pure white in any way.

At most I could see him as a UUU/W card. His base is blue, even if he's a rather clumsy blue. Doing the right thing is a very secondary thing to him compared to getting the job done - he even apologizes to Harry about it and admits that the way he acted was rotten. But he had to compromise because it had to be done. White would never have accepted such a shifty compromise - a White aligned person would have gone about it in a way that he/she felt was morally right, even if it killed him - because compromising on their morals, for hardcore White people, is worse than failing.

...or in ways that killed *other* people. CoughAkromacough.

 

[Dreago]

A few years ago wizards redfined exactly what each color was about. Each color had its good points and its bad points, and often its bad points were extremes of its good points. The following is based on what I can remember and my own personal opinions, so don't take it too personally.

I, personally, see Dumbledore as U/W/b, a lot of blue, white, and just a little black.

Blue was all about Information(card draw, looking at or through your or your opponents deck, and a little of an opponents hand), and Control of the game(counterspell, et. c.). Blue example of extremes were wizards having the ability to effect a change(for whatever purpose), but the wizard being caught up in his own experiments, or not wanting to invalidate his information, being almost completey inactive, and therefore inneffective. Regardless of his motivations Dumbledore was powerful and knowledgable. Leglimency and just having spy(ies) fit the information part.

White is defined by Order. All about the Laws of (insert place, government, or organization), and preserving those laws. It's also about protection and preservation(protection from _____ is mainly found in white).There is a little of control as well, but not as much as blue. White example of extremes were Nazis, strict adherence to the law and all about the group rather than the individual, the "Greater Good" if you will. Dumbledore fits a lot of white. He was part of the government, was strictly against the loss of life, and while we don't know exactly what all he has attempted to do he has seemed to preserve the status quo. No revolutions for him.

And finally Black. Black was about Power, Self-Interest, Death, and some Ruthlessness. Black wants Power and is willing to do whatever it requires to get it. Its most frequent question would probably be "What's in it for me?". Black was able to do most of what the other colors were able to do, but it came at a cost, whether that is losing life, creatures, or cards, it didn't matter. Black example of extremes would probably involve someone sacrificing someone/thing close to them for whatever reason. Dumbledore has power but(with the exception of his youth and possibly the Hallows) doesn't seem to seek any more power. Dumbledore doesn't really fit Black that well with the exception of his willingness to sacrifice whatever is needed to finish off Voldemort. Which includes Harry.

If you want to look up the WotC explanation of the colors, search for "Redefining the Color Pie"

Mmmm...Pie.

 

[zerohour]

Well, as long as Dumbledore doesn't embody all the colors or work to achieve balance between them. White works best for conflict with Voldemort, but isn't necessary.

 

[Archanon]

Basically, you can make an argument for him being blue or white depending on how you interpret his character.