Hayate the Whatever of Whatever.

H-Man

Random phantom.
#1
Okay, I get that the general opinion on this series is that it's not bad. That's fine. Still, I want to know more detailed opinions, whether it's 'really great' or 'just passable'. And whether it's worth it for me to read it. (My knowledge of it ends at around the time he got his special attack or something. Can't tell if it'd get more interesting after then.)
 

trevelyan1983

Well-Known Member
#2
H-Man said:
Okay, I get that the general opinion on this series is that it's not bad. That's fine. Still, I want to know more detailed opinions, whether it's 'really great' or 'just passable'. And whether it's worth it for me to read it. (My knowledge of it ends at around the time he got his special attack or something. Can't tell if it'd get more interesting after then.)
Hayate the Combat Butler? Or something else? Because not only do your title and OP come off as kinda troll-ish, they're also too damned vague to tell us what you're talking about.

If it's Combat Butler, yeah, it's mostly comedy, as far as I've read. Very well done and lol-worthy comedy, with some interesting versions of the usual archetypes.
 

pjanimation

Well-Known Member
#5
I agree that its worth reading/watching simply because of the ridiculousness of it.

Its certainly one of the best series I've ever read.
 

H-Man

Random phantom.
#6
I guess that helps...

I wasn't trying to sound offensive so much as, since I don't care enough about the series, this is how it all sounds. Yes, it's the Combat Butler. Whatever that is. There doesn't seem to be enough combat, to be honest, to justify it.

Like I said, the last I know of, Hayate has a special attack for some reason. What happened since?
 

Luthorne

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#7
It's meh, in my opinion. I'd put it on the same general level of Nagasarete Airantou...that is, I read it, but mostly just to kill time. The characters are generally dull, the humor is meh, the fourth wall breaking tends to annoy me as being a slipshod excuse for characterization/plot. It's vaguely amusing, but you could easily do better.

Also, the new-age Ranma 1/2 is Ashita no Yoichi, not Hayate the Combat Butler. And I like Ranma 1/2 much more than either of them. :sweat2:
 

Nanya

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#8
Luthorne said:
It's meh, in my opinion. I'd put it on the same general level of Nagasarete Airantou...that is, I read it, but mostly just to kill time. The characters are generally dull, the humor is meh, the fourth wall breaking tends to annoy me as being a slipshod excuse for characterization/plot. It's vaguely amusing, but you could easily do better.

Also, the new-age Ranma 1/2 is Ashita no Yoichi, not Hayate the Combat Butler. And I like Ranma 1/2 much more than either of them. :sweat2:
Huh, never read that one.
 

Luthorne

Well-Known Member
#9
Nanya said:
Luthorne said:
It's meh, in my opinion. I'd put it on the same general level of Nagasarete Airantou...that is, I read it, but mostly just to kill time. The characters are generally dull, the humor is meh, the fourth wall breaking tends to annoy me as being a slipshod excuse for characterization/plot. It's vaguely amusing, but you could easily do better.

Also, the new-age Ranma 1/2 is Ashita no Yoichi, not Hayate the Combat Butler. And I like Ranma 1/2 much more than either of them. :sweat2:
Huh, never read that one.
Ashita no Yoichi is about a swordsman who was raised by his father away from society, and then gets sent by his father, who can no longer defeat his son but doesn't want to admit it, to a dojo where an old friend of his teaches to 'train his spirit', as I recall. However, said individual is dead, and there are instead four daughters left behind, the oldest of which now runs the place, and happens to be a very violent tsundere who suspects the protagonist of being a pervert. He winds up being allowed to stay, but assorted misunderstanding happen, as well as assorted martial artists/assassins attacking for various reasons.

It's kind of like a cross between Ranma 1/2 and Love Hina, with a bunch of fanservice pumped into it. I'm not particularly fond of it, but there are a lot more analogues between it and Ranma 1/2 than there are with Hayate the Combat Butler.
 

Dudethunder

Well-Known Member
#10
Luthorne said:
Nanya said:
Luthorne said:
It's meh, in my opinion. I'd put it on the same general level of Nagasarete Airantou...that is, I read it, but mostly just to kill time. The characters are generally dull, the humor is meh, the fourth wall breaking tends to annoy me as being a slipshod excuse for characterization/plot. It's vaguely amusing, but you could easily do better.

Also, the new-age Ranma 1/2 is Ashita no Yoichi, not Hayate the Combat Butler. And I like Ranma 1/2 much more than either of them. :sweat2:
Huh, never read that one.
Ashita no Yoichi is about a swordsman who was raised by his father away from society, and then gets sent by his father, who can no longer defeat his son but doesn't want to admit it, to a dojo where an old friend of his teaches to 'train his spirit', as I recall. However, said individual is dead, and there are instead four daughters left behind, the oldest of which now runs the place, and happens to be a very violent tsundere who suspects the protagonist of being a pervert. He winds up being allowed to stay, but assorted misunderstanding happen, as well as assorted martial artists/assassins attacking for various reasons.

It's kind of like a cross between Ranma 1/2 and Love Hina, with a bunch of fanservice pumped into it. I'm not particularly fond of it, but there are a lot more analogues between it and Ranma 1/2 than there are with Hayate the Combat Butler.
I especially liked the bit where Yoichi implied the tsundere one's violence was the reason she had so few students at the dojo. :D
 

Daneel Rush

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#11
Hayate is at most a guilty pleasure for me. It's almost boringly middle-ground in every way: comedy, artwork, storyline, characters; even the Fourth Wall cracks usually come out of nowhere and are utterly inconsequential.

Then it hits you with jewels like the hot springs trip with Nishizawa and the Hinamatsuri short saga.

And then there's "The End of the World."

Those ten chapters made me fall in love with manga all over again.
 
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