Ranma ½ History of the Knights of the True Fiancee

[ToastedPine]

http://www.sanjiyan.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=4361

There was some talk of the the group being real and active on the irc channel. It's quite interesting how unbalanced things get when people start hating.

 

[daniel_gudman]

huh, I hadn't known they had actually existed in any form, I thought they were totally bogus.

 

[PCHeintz72]

huh, I hadn't known they had actually existed in any form, I thought they were totally bogus.

This discussion has been held on this forum before, though it has been awhile.

I remember giving that very link out.

 

[TeflonBooger]

huh, I hadn't known they had actually existed in any form, I thought they were totally bogus.

Self fulfilling prophesy, I think.

 

[Muramasa]

Meh, KotTF is just another glaring example of the fail that makes 99.5% of the Ranma/Akane fandom.



Nothing more than glorified nerd rage.

 

[ascote]

Read it before throwing stones.

Seems like the real nerdrage was by the Akane bashing squad. Which btw is quite notorious in its nerdrage.

 

[Muramasa]

Read it before throwing stones.

Seems like the real nerdrage was by the Akane bashing squad. Which btw is quite notorious in its nerdrage.

:sweat2:


...and there I go shooting my mouth off again.



Admitted, some bias on my end. Sorry 'bout that.

 

[Ezit Meti]

It's always struck me how divided the fandom is over that one character. It seems that for every single fan of the series there's an opinion on who Akane Tendo is. I think this is because there's a good spread of good and bad things that she does throughout the series, but each fan keeps particular scenes in mind. Probably because they got a better emotional response than other scenes. This in turn influences their decision on who Akane is, and what results from it is less than half accurate to what Takahashi had in mind while writing her.

It also occurs to me that the detractors of the Knights were being slightly hypocritical in a sense. By claiming to be targetted and abused for their opinions, they were in turn targetting and abusing others that happened to be innocent. For having a different opinion than them.

Okay, sure. They probably did that because of a misunderstanding. But hey, I think the thought is kind of amusing.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be in the corner chanting the MST3K Mantra.

 

[gral]

It also occurs to me that the detractors of the Knights were being slightly hypocritical in a sense. By claiming to be targetted and abused for their opinions, they were in turn targetting and abusing others that happened to be innocent.

More than a bit hypocritical. Way more.

 

[Ezit Meti]

Yes, well. I didn't want to sound like I think that everybody that dislikes Akane reacted in the exact same way. Because then I'd be generallising and spreading rumours based on a difference of opinion. :lol:

 

[goldenarms]

Yeah... the whole KoTF thing... sometimes, we can just go too far on either side of the spectrum.
Personally, I think Rumiko should have said "fuck it," made the characters, then let them find their own story without the "destined couple" shtick rearing its head. Would have made for some interesting storytelling, I'm certain.

 

[Ezit Meti]

To be fair, I'm fairly certain there were a lot of stories that Takahashi had originally intended to write within Ranma 1/2. But then, while writing up the individual bits and pieces the whole thing got away from her.

See Doctor Tofu. A heck of a lot more could have been done with the character, but he became irrelevant once Cologne showed up. After all, the only really interesting things about him by that point were:

1: His destructive crush on Kasumi.

2: Um, his profession?

I mean, Akane had dropped her crush on the guy pretty early on. It was a fairly interesting plot point, but almost nothing was really done with it. I feel that, honestly, it would have been very possible for other things to be done with the guy. But alas, he faded away as his relevance was consumed by the ever growing cast. As the story became less "these two can't get along, but are developing crushes on each other" to "harem" his point of existance just disappeared.

 

[goldenarms]

To be fair, I'm fairly certain there were a lot of stories that Takahashi had originally intended to write within Ranma 1/2. But then, while writing up the individual bits and pieces the whole thing got away from her.

If Ranma 1/2 was her first story, I'd be more inclined to that point. Sometimes, though, I'm of the mind that she was trying not to make the same mistakes she made with Urusei Yatsura, from what I understand. Of course, while you might be successful in avoiding old mistakes, you'll end up with more, newer mistakes that you'll have to work around. At least that's how it works out in my case.

 

[SHINKIJIN]

QUOTE (Ezit Meti @ Apr 30 2009, 12:26 PM)
To be fair, I'm fairly certain there were a lot of stories that Takahashi had originally intended to write within Ranma 1/2. But then, while writing up the individual bits and pieces the whole thing got away from her.

If Ranma 1/2 was her first story, I'd be more inclined to that point. Sometimes, though, I'm of the mind that she was trying not to make the same mistakes she made with Urusei Yatsura, from what I understand. Of course, while you might be successful in avoiding old mistakes, you'll end up with more, newer mistakes that you'll have to work around. At least that's how it works out in my case.

I guess Takahashi never got over these problems of hers. Just look at Inuyasha. :angry:

 

[Drawde]

QUOTE (Ezit Meti @ Apr 30 2009, 12:26 PM)
To be fair, I'm fairly certain there were a lot of stories that Takahashi had originally intended to write within Ranma 1/2. But then, while writing up the individual bits and pieces the whole thing got away from her.

If Ranma 1/2 was her first story, I'd be more inclined to that point. Sometimes, though, I'm of the mind that she was trying not to make the same mistakes she made with Urusei Yatsura, from what I understand. Of course, while you might be successful in avoiding old mistakes, you'll end up with more, newer mistakes that you'll have to work around. At least that's how it works out in my case.

I guess Takahashi never got over these problems of hers. Just look at Inuyasha. :angry:

I like how people call Takahashi's writing style a "problem" when it was good enough to make her one of the richest women in Japan. Inuyasha ran for over 500 chapters and had a definent ending. Which is one of the problems she admitted to having, like with Ranma 1/2.

 

[Ezit Meti]

Well, I never said it was a problem. Just that she never really got to do all the stories she really wanted to do with the series. Just because I didn't get to see Tofu attempt to get over his Kasumi infatuation to the point where he could ask her out... that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the series for what it did show.

 

[toraneko]

I like how people call Takahashi's writing style a "problem" when it was good enough to make her one of the richest women in Japan.

"Success" is not the same thing as "quality". <_<

 

[Lord Raa]

I like how people call Takahashi's writing style a "problem" when it was good enough to make her one of the richest women in Japan.

"Success" is not the same thing as "quality". <_<

Tell me about it - Make Room for Daddy has nigh on 200 reviews, most of the positive, but that doesn't make it any good.

 

[leeyiankun]

"Success" is not the same thing as "quality". <_<

Yes, how I know about that.
One of my acquaintance (we use to go to the same manga event in our area)'s got an old anime print up on DA. It has HUGE favs & a WTF fanbase. But that doesn't deny the fact that it's a piece of sh*t. Heh, must have gotten close to 8k -10k favs now(I haven't check it in like years...)

Me and the guys still jokes about how success often goes to the least deserving. And how 'If it was me', I'd take that thing down in an instant, Massive favs or not.

In case you're wondering which one it is, I'll give you a hint.
It involves a girl, a broken egg, & lots of flames.