IE 7

[da_fox2279]

Gah... While I like the whole 'multible sites/tabs in one window' shtick, EVERY SINGLE TIME I try to close one window while keeping another open, BOTH windows close. Sometimes, when I try to close a single tab, the whole damn window closes.

I hate this! I've been trying to download GitS soundtracks, and every time the damn window closes, I have to start over.

Does anyone else have this problem?

 

[zeebee1]

Nope.

 

[David Alan Abramczyk]

Get Mozilla Firefox, like I did, it's much better!

 

[Legacy|iB]

Nah, no problems with IE7 on my end. Been using it just fine for awhile now.

 

[PCHeintz72]

Get Mozilla Firefox, like I did, it's much better!

A general dislike, tabbing has to be the most stupid browser innovation I've ever seen, it is the first item I disable upon browser install.

Mozilla Firefox for me has always been slow, and I find the interface clunky. I have it, but use it strickly as a backup and test browser.

Having said that, I'm not too thrilled with IE 7 either, though I still think it better than Mozilla. I preferred IE 6.

As for the UI in IE 7. Well, the two biggest annoyances I currently suffer is the funtionality of the favorites side window (it works different if brought up with Shift-Ctrl-I vs the favorites button on the bar), and the morons who decided it was great to place the back/forward and link bar *above* the menu bar. *And you cannot move it*.

A third minor annoyance in IE 7 that would have been disasterous in IE 6 is the location of the refresh button. It is stupid to place it all the way on the other side of the link bar and away from the forward/back buttons.

Other wise, it is livable, and I've seen only one bug. If you have a window up, and bring up a second window, it comes up, but seems to switch mid stream the active window back to the first one.

EDIT: Another minor issue I forgot, is the difference in the way IE 7 treats URL files (for those not in the know, that is the files IE keeps favorites in). Traditionally, extra stuff tends to build up in them and a user might not even know it. I have a program that can go through and batch edit these URL files and clean them up, removing garbage information, tracking information, icon information, advertizing URL's, and what not, leaving just the minimal information they need to still work correctly. IE 6 was fine with that, but IE 7 refreshes those files every time clicked on, normally adding back in the information. Also updateing date/timestamp info on the files.

The solution is simple, make all the Favorites URL files read only, it prevents the IE 7 update/refresh process form working. I've adjusted my program to make the URL writeable, alter it, then make it read only.

 

[SimmyC]

I haven't really had issues with either so far. Though I admit, I use Mozilla more than IE7. So far, I haven't (edit. <_< I hate it when I use the WRONG word in sentences. Especially when they change the whole freaking meaning of what I wanted to say) noticed any 'problems' with Firefox. At first I will say that I did not like the interface compared to IE6. But after awhile, I got used to Firefox's interface and so, that isn't an issue for me. As for tabs? To be honest, I like tabs more than always opening up a new window. True, it might 'clutter' up the bar. But at least I can quickly switch between say, sites instead of going down the start menu and click on the 'right' one (not to mention Windows XP puts say the same window into one tab now).

 

[Legacy|iB]

Firefox was good, but it felt like it was getting rather bloated. I don't know, but it started to consume a hell of a lot of my CPU to the point it lags out my entire machine. Not fun, at all.

Ever since I've started using Vista, I've been using IE7 almost all the time. It's not bad, actually. The refresh button is in a weird spot, but if I need to refresh a page, I just hit F5. Easy as that.

The only thing IE7 needs is a built-in spell checker (like Firefox), in my opinion at least. Otherwise, it accomplishes what I need it to do rather well.

 

[PCHeintz72]

[quote="Legacy|]Firefox was good, but it felt like it was getting rather bloated. I don't know, but it started to consume a hell of a lot of my CPU to the point it lags out my entire machine. Not fun, at all.

Ever since I've started using Vista, I've been using IE7 almost all the time. It's not bad, actually. The refresh button is in a weird spot, but if I need to refresh a page, I just hit F5. Easy as that.

The only thing IE7 needs is a built-in spell checker (like Firefox), in my opinion at least. Otherwise, it accomplishes what I need it to do rather well.[/quote]
Why build a spell checker into a browser? If anything, it should be built into either the tools you use to make html, or the text editor you use to do so.

I use Helios Textpad, which has a built in spell checker.

 

[runestar]

Why build a spell checker into a browser? If anything, it should be built into either the tools you use to make html, or the text editor you use to do so.

So that people typing in forums can actually spell correctly for once...

I have all 3 browsers, but for me, its just a matter of getting used to, so those tiny inconveniences here and there don't really bother me. Too much... -_-

 

[PCHeintz72]

Why build a spell checker into a browser? If anything, it should be built into either the tools you use to make html, or the text editor you use to do so.

So that people typing in forums can actually spell correctly for once...

I have all 3 browsers, but for me, its just a matter of getting used to, so those tiny inconveniences here and there don't really bother me. Too much... -_-

I do not normally spell check my posts, though I might on rare occasions do so on overly long posts. For those, I learned to never use the edit window in a forum. I've learned through experience that those windows are less reliable for such. I've several times in the past lost such posts either due to the edit window crashing, or the connection going, or other. So instead I use the larger and more capable one in an advanced text editor such as Helios Textpad, then edit and spell check there and only then cut and paste into the edit window.

 

[SimmyC]

Hmm. Yeah, IE7's refresh button is in a weird spot. But other than that, it doesn't look too bad in terms of user ability.

But again, haven't used IE7 as much as of yet, and Firefox isn't all that bad to me 'so far'. Now, if it does show down my computer (even though this one could handle quite a bit), than I too might make the switch. But at the moment, I'll stick to Firefox. Again, now that I've gotten used to it, would take me a while to change course this late in the game.

And Legacy, you have Vista now? Interesting. I guess you're using the computer at work? Or at least, got the program from work. Since at the moment, it is only available for businesses AFAIK. Oh, and beta testers so... :unsure!:

 

[PCHeintz72]

Hmm. Yeah, IE7's refresh button is in a weird spot. But other than that, it doesn't look too bad in terms of user ability.

But again, haven't used IE7 as much as of yet, and Firefox isn't all that bad to me 'so far'. Now, if it does show down my computer (even though this one could handle quite a bit), than I too might make the switch. But at the moment, I'll stick to Firefox. Again, now that I've gotten used to it, would take me a while to change course this late in the game.

And Legacy, you have Vista now? Interesting. I guess you're using the computer at work? Or at least, got the program from work. Since at the moment, it is only available for businesses AFAIK. Oh, and beta testers so...? :unsure!:

There are some ways around that. However, while all my own existing systems should be able to handle Vista (except I would want some simple memory upgrades on two of them), I'm not too keen on upgrading to Vista since I spent a decent amount of money upgrading a large part of my software base for all my systems back in March.

 

[SimmyC]

Yeah. There are ways around it.

And at the moment, I'm not going to upgrade this computer to Vista anytime soon. Besides the fact that they recommend 2 gigs of memory (which would have added another $80 to this computer. Something I was NOT willing to spend. <_< ), there are bound to be bugs that needed to be fixed upon its release. Better wait for now before going that extra steps. Besides, Windows XP is fine for me, and most of the stuff I do anyways.

 

[PCHeintz72]

Yeah. There are ways around it.

And at the moment, I'm not going to upgrade this computer to Vista anytime soon. Besides the fact that they recommend 2 gigs of memory (which would have added another $80 to this computer. Something I was NOT willing to spend. <_< ), there are bound to be bugs that needed to be fixed upon its release. Better wait for now before going that extra steps. Besides, Windows XP is fine for me, and most of the stuff I do anyways.

Well, as far as hardware goes, I'm not too bad off. I've been attempting to upgrade every other year on software / hardware. This year was software, next year hardware, so Vista is likely early 2008, as I'm fine with what I have. Like you, I feel that also gives them time to get the bugs out. The house server is fine (I rebuilt and upgraded it on an off year due to a crash in the summer, so it is a 3ghz AMD Athlon 64, 1gb ram, 250gb hd, good video, separate DVD and CD burners, beefed up with extra cooling and critical hardware in it, etc...), though I'll upgrade ram before Vista goes on it. I might replace my notebook and my mothers notebook in March/April, though it would not be due to Vista.

I *had* five computers I maintained, but with my father passing away last month, I decided to slim it down to just three. My brothers have their own systems, but I don't maintain them.

 

[Jakkun]

Why use such trash? I use Opera and have for years. Both firefox and IE 7 just ripped off everything from it. It has built in spell checking. I can go back to a different page and my text in a text box will still be there. It may even still be there if the browser closes but I can't guarantee that. Opera was the originator of tabs as far as I know. They actually function in a way that makes sense as well, unlike firefox. As far as I can tell, when a tab closes in FF it goes to a random one next to it, either before or after it. Opera cycles to last used.