If ninjas knew physics

zerohour

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#1
I recently read tha manga chapter where Rock Lee takes off his weights to fight Gaara, and it occured to me. If the weight of those weights increases depending on how much chakra is put into them, wouldn't it be smarter to carve them into kunai, and throw them at the enemy? I mean, just look at what happened to the floor. Think of the sheer power of the billion ton kunai of death!

Oh Gai-Sensei, if only you had taken basic physics... Lee would have killed Gaara with one single throw of a kunai... :no:
 
#2
*cough* Shield of Sand *hack* Armor of Sand *cough*
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
#3
DISCUSSION OF REAL WORLD PHYSICS IN ANIME?

Good Gods man, don't you know what you're doing?

(Here's a hint :p )

 

zerohour

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#4
nuclear death frog said:
*cough* Shield of Sand *hack* Armor of Sand *cough*
Yes, he did have that, but I'll give you an extreme example

If I drop the moon on top of Gaara, will his shield and armor stand up against that?

No. He would die. The same principle applies to throwing a 500 pound kunai at his heart. It's just not strong enough to stop it.

Lee just dropped the weights, and they broke about 2 feet of stone. Stone is denser, and thus, STRONGER, than sand, and Gaara only had... say 3 inches of sand covering him?


And Lord Raa, i know you shouldn't drag the laws of physics into anime, but this is more about Gai's lack of knowledge than physics.
 
#5
I'm perfectly aware of the circumstances of the Gaara-Lee fight.

Need I remind you that Gaara's sand has totally resisted an explosion that would have leveled a city? It's not ordinary sand once he/Shukaku begins manipulating it.
 

Mereo Flere

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#6
Let's not forget that Lee continued to fly upwards even as he kicked Gaara higher and higher.

That brings up the question: Why aren't there flying ninjas in Naruto? Not something cheap like standing on something that flies; why don't any of them know how to fly?
 

BlackSun

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#7
Because it would take vast ammounts of chakra just to look like they're standing on air (they would be standing on chakra).
I used to think it would be cool if Naruto were to find a way to use the principles of Rasengan with his feet so he could fly, at least for a few seconds at a time.
 

Lumias

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#8
because flying would make it even more like DBZ then it already is.
 

zerohour

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#9
nuclear death frog said:
I'm perfectly aware of the circumstances of the Gaara-Lee fight.

Need I remind you that Gaara's sand has totally resisted an explosion that would have leveled a city? It's not ordinary sand once he/Shukaku begins manipulating it.
When was this? I don't remember any cities being leveled...
 
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zerohour said:
nuclear death frog said:
I'm perfectly aware of the circumstances of the Gaara-Lee fight.

Need I remind you that Gaara's sand has totally resisted an explosion that would have leveled a city? It's not ordinary sand once he/Shukaku begins manipulating it.
When was this? I don't remember any cities being leveled...
When Deidara captured him. Chapter 248 or 249.

And the Sand village didn't get leveled, but it would have been had Gaara not stopped the explosion by blocking it with sand.
 

ttestagr

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#11
*sigh*

We were told that Gaara's sand shield was many times stronger than stone or steel the very first time it was used. The idiot grass nin with the needle umbrella could have the needles pierce through steel and was suitably shocked when Gaara's shield stopped them easily.

Gaara's sand would be the ultimate hack, if Bakamoto didn't job Gaara because of plot points he wants to make. There was a reason that Gaara was the sands uncontrollable secret weapon, if you look at his abilities, the sharingan looks like an acadamy student jutsu. Not only can he control the movement of sand, but he can also control its density and creation. It goes without saying that he would be a god in a desert, but he can create his own!!!

Gaara's fight with Kimimaru should have been far more epic than it was. Their abilities were complete opposites with Gaara having total control over an outside element and Kimimaru having total control over an element in his own body. Forget about the even more horrible ending to that fight, but Kimimaru should have been able to match Gaara jutsu for jutsu with the demon and curse seal being the wild cards.
 

Mereo Flere

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#12
Any fight that involves having to resort to a giant Shukaku sand doll as a shield, which does nothing but sit in front of you, isn't that really epic in the first place. Especially when you consider that Kimizilla was probably fast enough to go around it.

Neji's fight irked me more than Gaara and Kimimaru's fight though. I thought, "Cool, someone is using a bow," and then was immediately disappointed by how he used it.
 

ttestagr

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#13
I loved Neji's fight actually. I consider it the last great moment that the series has had. Then Kishimoto shitted on it by having Neji live, but that is another story...

What didn't you like about how he used the bow? It was introduced late in that fight, after the curse seal 2 came up and I thought Kidoumaru used it well (especially since he was using a hack already with the curse seal.) He basically sniped the shit out of Neji with it and kept a connection to the arrow so he could control it in flight so he could keep it in Neji's blind spot. At the very least, he used it well enough to win most battles.
 

Mereo Flere

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#14
It probably has more to do with the anime just having it going wildly around Neji, completely matching his movements. Controlling it with a thread would also cause the arrow to lose velocity, and considering how much he would have had to adjust it just to get in the right angle...it would have been more effective to let it fly straight, or shoot several of them in rapid succession and controlling all of them with the thread.

Hell, you could have attached an explosive note, if you brought one. Or poison.
 
#15
From almost every opinion I've read, the anime sucks ass and is not worth watching. Disregard it and read the manga.

Unfortunately that now sucks ass too. It sucks it very hard. :no:
 

sigfried27

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#16
That brings up the question: Why aren't there flying ninjas in Naruto? Not something cheap like standing on something that flies; why don't any of them know how to fly?
Give it time, and Sasuke will manage to fly, because obviously Sasuke can do everything. Hell, for all we know, Kishimoto will make it another ability of the Sharingans, despite the fact that flying would have nothing to do with your eyes.
 

zerohour

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#17
sigfried27 said:
Give it time, and Sasuke will manage to fly, because obviously Sasuke can do everything. Hell, for all we know, Kishimoto will make it another ability of the Sharingans, despite the fact that flying would have nothing to do with your eyes.
I'm pretty sure Sasuke had wings when he used the curse seal, so... it's already been forseen. There will be flying black haired people that can transform. Now where have I seen that before? :huh:
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...Oh yeah, DBZ, though that focused more on the hair than anything else...
On the bright side, I don't think that Naruto drags things out through the infamous process of "Powering Up" Not sure, as I don't have cable, and am unabel to watch...well... anything... :headbanger:

Hail 4:30 AM replies, the kind you don't remember writing...
 

FH_Meta

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#18
Nah, Sasuke didn't have wing in the second cursed form, he had

BIG ASS, WEBBED, CLAWED HANDS

which, I sincerely hope, will not be used to fly.

The Manos de mierdas are the silliest things I've seen in the series.
 

zeebee1

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#19
In the Valley of the End fight, or at least the anime version of it at least, Naruto used prolonged flight.
 

toraneko

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#20
FH_Meta said:
Nah, Sasuke didn't have wing in the second cursed form, he had BIG ASS, WEBBED, CLAWED HANDS which, I sincerely hope, will not be used to fly.
Uhh, that's basically what bat wings are...

Granted, Sasuke's are ugly as shit, but then again, that makes Sasuke more laughable. And anything that does that gets a tiny nod of approval from me.
 

zerohour

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#21
Lord Raa said:
DISCUSSION OF REAL WORLD PHYSICS IN ANIME?

Good Gods man, don't you know what you're doing?

(Here's a hint :p )

Fine.. we'll use euclidean geometry and ignore eistein's general relativity...
 

FH_Meta

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#22
toraneko said:
FH_Meta said:
Nah, Sasuke didn't have wing in the second cursed form, he had BIG ASS, WEBBED, CLAWED HANDS which, I sincerely hope, will not be used to fly.
Uhh, that's basically what bat wings are...

Granted, Sasuke's are ugly as shit, but then again, that makes Sasuke more laughable. And anything that does that gets a tiny nod of approval from me.
Yes, but these hands aren't wingly like bats' are. The Uber ass Uchiha has big Hand like hand coming out of his back, IIRC.

They looked like he could use them to hold giant tanks of gas or oil to hose enemies down with to make them burn better.
 

Mereo Flere

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#23
The fact that it looks like the wings are put on backwards doesn't help it one bit.

Honestly, I half expected him to reach behind himself, unzip a giant zipper, and step out of that ridiculous costume he was wearing.

But...he didn't. And failed.
 

Zenithos

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#24
This thread would fit better in the Naruto fanfiction's 'talk' section, IMO. Well, that aside...

The thing about ninjas is that they just defy physics, or at least, physics as we know it. It's useless to teach ninjas our physics cuz they've got their own warped idea of physics (as demonstrated in the chunin written tests).

As for the battle between Kidomaru and Neji, it was quite intense, but I found the ending a bit dissapointing. I mean, I was half expecting Neji to pull of a last minute desperation attack using his byakugan or something. All he did was use the thread (which Kidomaru didn't have sense to sever) and make his chakra flow through it, thus messing up Kidomaru's internal organs and such. I mean, seriously, Kidomaru's chakra flow management is top notch. He could've countered the chakra flowing up the thread or at least fixed the chakra flow inside himself.

What did he do? He made a last minute 'Oh, he's good' monologue and fell off the tree.

That's where ninja physics just loses us, I guess...
 

Moshulel

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#25
Fine.. we'll use euclidean geometry and ignore eistein's general relativity...
Wrong choice. It has been proved that eg doesn't work the same way near black holes nad celestial bodies with huge gravity. Given the fact that Anime series are such cases it would be wrong to use euclidean geometry.

What did he do? He made a last minute 'Oh, he's good' monologue and fell off the tree.
Nevermind that the Hyuuga are *able* to kill with one hit. -_-
 
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