Akamatsuverse Immortality Theory

wolf359

Well-Known Member
#1
Just a thought that came up while I was doing some reading but is there a canon explanation for Keitaro's Immortality and what are the most popular fanon explanations?

the most popular ones I've seen are

Chi Manipulation Prodigy/Family Trait
and
Family Martial Art Style

What's your favourite theory?
 

Prince Charon

Well-Known Member
#2
wolf359 said:
Just a thought that came up while I was doing some reading but is there a canon explanation for Keitaro's Immortality and what are the most popular fanon explanations?

the most popular ones I've seen are

Chi Manipulation Prodigy/Family Trait
and
Family Martial Art Style

What's your favourite theory?
He's a dragon, or a descendant of one.
 

Kayeich

Well-Known Member
#3
On his first night at the Hinata house, the attacks the girls made on him were not survived by Keitaro. He came back to life, however, immortal. At some point, another immortal, sensing a buzz, decided to spy on his latest target/victim, installing spy cameras all over the building.

He laughed himself sick so hard that he couldn't bring himself to take Keitaro's head, not while there was more entertainment to watch. He began drawing sketches of Keitaro's misadventures, under the penname of Ken Akamatsu, and spread tales through the community about the young immortal.

Keitaro, in ways, became the Truman Show of the immortals, that even the baddest of the bad enjoy watching, Ken Akamatsu became rich beyond dreams and started writing other stories, and nobody dared take Keitaro's head, lest they inherit his luck with the opposite sex. It's just too frightening to think of the concept of an eternity getting bashed around by the opposite sex.

And thus Keitaro lives on, surviving accident after accident, not realizing for many years to come that he is immortal, while his wife and friends slowly age.
 

John Tannius

Well-Known Member
#4
I LOLed :lol:

I kinda like the dragon idea... course I'm partial to dragons. The idea of the whole Urashima family being Eastern Dragons is just too cool. Or maybe Keitaro was entrusted to the Urashima family as a child by a dying dragon. The possibilities are endless.
 
#5
Well, my favorite is that he's part Kryptonian, or full and his powers just haven't kicked in yet because of the magical influence Hinata Sou has on him.

That's my own theory, true, but it's still my favorite.
 

Lord Raine

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#6
My personal theory?


He's the kid of either Bond or Indiana, and thus Can. Not. Die. The Fates will not allow it.

It's why Seta 'conveniently' showed up to train him into a globetrotting, martial-arts using archeologist. He's a former 'partner' of Keitaros father, and thus feels obliged to teach him his family trade.

And those 'Bishi Moments' when he comes back from his trip? That's his fathers blood shining through.


The only reason he didn't get gang-raped by the girls was because Naru was too bitchy, Mitsune stepped aside for Naru (bad move, but it's her choice), Shinobu was too shy and embarrassed, Su was too innocent to know what sex is, Mutsumi also stepped aside for Naru ('sobs on keyboard'), and Motoko was too much of a prude to admit she loved/wanted him.

The only person who actually acted 'normal' ('normal' being 'normal for the kid being related to a lady-killer') was Kanoko.

And the only thing that kept her from getting him over all the others was the fact that she was his adopted sister. Were they not legally related, she would have snagged him so fast it would have made you head spin.


Were he placed anywhere else, he would have scored every other night.

Come to think of it, that would have happened at Hinata House as well, if you removed Naru.


Without her around, there's no one for Mutsumi and Mitsune to 'stand aside' for, so they would make their moves first. Shinobu might panic and do something she normally wouldn't (like throw herself at him) because of that.

Then Kanoko shows up, and her doing perverted things is just par for the course at this point.

And all this causes Motoko to wonder why she's even bothering to pretend anymore.


Only person left out is Su, because she hasn't been given the Talk yet.


Until she asks Mitsune, who tells her that it does, in fact, taste like a banana. Then she'd be all over him.


So IMO, actionhero!Keitaro FTW.
 

Legacy|iB

Well-Known Member
#7
I say anything beyond the usual of Keitaro being a standard male pushover protagonist in a harem manga/anime - thus, being immortal to significant amounts of damage - reasons for why he's actually immortal will require creative thinking and thinking relative to what is being written.

For example, in regards to anything that may be written in a fantasy universe or related, him being immortal due to sea dragon lineage and that such is a decent idea, I'd say.

Anything else...take your pick, or make your own. For an idea for a heavily AU fic that I certainly won't be continuing, I was running with an idea that he was an experiment or something. A certain author (his pen name escapes me at the moment) had his fic centered on an idea that Keitaro's cells were different or that he had something else that was responsible for his immortality, and that at the start of the fic, they slowly began to fail. Again, I can't remember the title of the fic and its author, but it was very well written, and just so happened to be one of the best Keitaro/Naru stories on FFN.

So, essentially the reason Keitaro is immortal...?

With the exception of specific fic ideas, I'll stand by my answer - because Keitaro is the male lead in an anime/manga where a red moon can turn a young girl into a older and more beautiful woman, a species of turtle can fly and somewhat talk, and where all sorts of other strange happenings can and will occur, Keitaro is immortal...just because.

Failing that, I'm willing to also say he's just abnormally lucky. I'm not talking about living in a building with attractive women - that's just unfair - but given what happens to him and how he's still alive and still functioning...

Abnormally lucky, or what?
 
#8
Cells?

Oh you shouldn't've said that...

See, I just got finished playing Metroid Fusion.


Keitaro, son of Samus Aran. It's the Metroid DNA. Whether paternally or just the vaccine. A fun new version of the Superadaptive!Character trick. I dunno, good crack it would be.
 

knight_of_ni

Well-Known Member
#9
Given the fact that the women just generally abuse him and are rather selfish when it comes to him, I can't see myself being jealous no matter how attractive the women are.

Anyway, I suppose it is just a special ability, it depends on how you want to depict it. Though Seta seems to have it as well.

Maybe it is some form of martial arts.
 

alansg

Well-Known Member
#10
The Akamatsuverse has living computer programs that can make any wish come true, Santa Claus exist and has a school for Santas, there's a hueg tree in the middle of Japan and nobody cares, the Earth is attacked on a common basis by ultra cute aliens, there are magic-powered robots, etc.

A couple of immortal people is O.K.
 

Prince Charon

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#11
Another thought: he's a shinigami (or maybe the King), hiding out from Soul Society in a very durable gigai.
 

Zhou_Mak

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#12
I dunno. The most interesting idea I ever came across was that Keitaro's family owned the Hinata Lodge back when it was still the home of a warlord, and that particular warlord bargained with a god for immortality. That immortality goes on through his descendents, but when they leave the Hinata house, they are subject to death's whims once again.

But that was pretty long ago, too. So I might have imagined it.
 

Crusader

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#13
My theory on Keitaro's immortality is that he's as tough as Ms. Marvel, or Rogue when she still had the invulnerability and powers of Ms. Marvel.

Keitaro's tough, but even he has his limits and I doubt he can survive a Tallboy or a Grand Slam bomb dropped on top of him from the right height.
 

Ryogas_BF

Well-Known Member
#14
if you go by the akamatsu-verse maybe he has something similar to Asuna from Negima. but instead of magic nullification it's physical damage. the only reason he feels it at all is because the girls are just so powerful that it overrides the nullifying field. He just reacts to the smaller hits so that people dont get as suspicious.

Though Keitaro as Indiana's son with a frickin awesome idea... Seta and haruka definately seem to have been on adventures in the same vain... and what with sarah being the adopted daughter from on of seta's american collegues... who knows.
 
#15
You're saying...Sara could be Keitaro's Halfsister? Or even a real both-parents sharing sister?
 

Ryogas_BF

Well-Known Member
#16
I'd say half sister considering the differing races but could share indy as the father. Keitaro's mom perhaps couldn't handle th adventuring life and left the archaeologist and married the candymaker. Indy at then remarried and had another child and after vanishing sarah ended up with Seta.
 

Mighty Bob

Well-Known Member
#17
Kayeich said:
On his first night at the Hinata house, the attacks the girls made on him were not survived by Keitaro. He came back to life, however, immortal. At some point, another immortal, sensing a buzz, decided to spy on his latest target/victim, installing spy cameras all over the building.

He laughed himself sick so hard that he couldn't bring himself to take Keitaro's head, not while there was more entertainment to watch. He began drawing sketches of Keitaro's misadventures, under the penname of Ken Akamatsu, and spread tales through the community about the young immortal.

Keitaro, in ways, became the Truman Show of the immortals, that even the baddest of the bad enjoy watching, Ken Akamatsu became rich beyond dreams and started writing other stories, and nobody dared take Keitaro's head, lest they inherit his luck with the opposite sex. It's just too frightening to think of the concept of an eternity getting bashed around by the opposite sex.

And thus Keitaro lives on, surviving accident after accident, not realizing for many years to come that he is immortal, while his wife and friends slowly age.
Seeing as someone else already bumped this; just gotta say I love the idea in this one. Torn between wanting to see this written or the one where Keitaro is related to Indiana Jones (Granny Hina had a fling with him back in the 30s/40s?)
 
#18
Here's a silly one: he has the Mega Man defense.

He was never taught exactly how weak and fragile the human body is, but he watched looney tunes a lot as a kid. In a model of the world where "I think therefore I am" is literal (which is actually quite possibly a viable theory, with the question helped along by the crazy shit babies sometimes pull) if he does not realize that those injuries should kill him, then they simply won't.

In short, he's too stupid to die. Stupid in that very limited sense, anyway. So as long as no one convinces him otherwise, he'll remain unkillable.

See? Silly.
 

mswolfe17

Well-Known Member
#19
I sense a void........ (goes into Michael Crichton mode)


My Theory for Keitaro's immortality:

Keitaro's body is comprised of billions of nano-machines at the atomic level, that reflect light just the right way in order to create the illusion of Keitaro, as well as create a hard surface that human beings can interact with. When danger is deemed unavoidable, the nano-machines switch over to Reconstruct Mode in order to alter their physical properties within a hundredth of a second in order to exchange his current physical composition to something more suited to taking damage.

Example: The instant before Naru punches Keitaro, his physical properties would become extremely similar to that of a tennis ball, thus sending him flying. While in the air, the nano-machines would again reconfigure his body, changing the molecular structure of his body to be similar to that of a rock, almost eliminating any chance of injury he might receive upon landing.

When attacked by Motoko, the nano-machines actually allow the lethal portion of her attacks to move through, *if looked at with an insanely high-speed photograph, it would appear that Keitaro's body splits in half around the attack, and reattaches itself the instant the attack passes.* This is followed by something extremely similar to when Naru attacks.

Keitaro himself does not know this, as the nano-machines are programmed to simulate a real body and stimulate nerve signals to his brain, which is about the only part of Keitaro that is not an illusion. Any indication that he might be finding out about this would be met with artificial nerve signals that would result in a chemical reaction bringing Keitaro to disbelief.

In other words, the machines will not allow Keitaro to believe in their existance, and send false signals to his brain through the nerves that would normally attach to his eyes. If he were to try and touch his arm, the machines would tell his brain that he is touching his arm and that it feels like a normal human arm should.

Reason why he's made of Nano-machines? *exiting Crichton mode!* Hell if I know!
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#20
That theory, would not explain his leg.
 
#21
My favorite theory is that it's a long-running joke, to be used whenever humorous and discarded upon first need.
 
#22
My theory:

It's a mixture of the "Tokyo University Promise" and the "Mallet Theory".

By which I mean, the fates made it so that Keitaro was destined to go to Tokyo U, just like how anime girls untrained in arts of self-defence can draw out a large wooden mallet and pummel perverts. But once he got there, the fates began to look elsewhere, allowing the protection they provided to dwindle. Result= Broken leg.
 

Greengun

Well-Known Member
#23
One of my ideas was that Keitaro is a changeling child from a western style Fairy. The reason the chandelier hurts him is because some parts were made out of the right type of cold iron needed to get pass his magical protections.
 

John Tannius

Well-Known Member
#24
mswolfe17 said:
I sense a void........ (goes into Michael Crichton mode)


My Theory for Keitaro's immortality:

Keitaro's body is comprised of billions of nano-machines at the atomic level, that reflect light just the right way in order to create the illusion of Keitaro, as well as create a hard surface that human beings can interact with. When danger is deemed unavoidable, the nano-machines switch over to Reconstruct Mode in order to alter their physical properties within a hundredth of a second in order to exchange his current physical composition to something more suited to taking damage.

Example: The instant before Naru punches Keitaro, his physical properties would become extremely similar to that of a tennis ball, thus sending him flying. While in the air, the nano-machines would again reconfigure his body, changing the molecular structure of his body to be similar to that of a rock, almost eliminating any chance of injury he might receive upon landing.

When attacked by Motoko, the nano-machines actually allow the lethal portion of her attacks to move through, *if looked at with an insanely high-speed photograph, it would appear that Keitaro's body splits in half around the attack, and reattaches itself the instant the attack passes.* This is followed by something extremely similar to when Naru attacks.

Keitaro himself does not know this, as the nano-machines are programmed to simulate a real body and stimulate nerve signals to his brain, which is about the only part of Keitaro that is not an illusion. Any indication that he might be finding out about this would be met with artificial nerve signals that would result in a chemical reaction bringing Keitaro to disbelief.

In other words, the machines will not allow Keitaro to believe in their existance, and send false signals to his brain through the nerves that would normally attach to his eyes. If he were to try and touch his arm, the machines would tell his brain that he is touching his arm and that it feels like a normal human arm should.

Reason why he's made of Nano-machines? *exiting Crichton mode!* Hell if I know!
Just read Prey did we?

While a perfectly good sight gag, Naru shouldn't be able to punch anyone that hard to begin with. Logic, catgirls and all that see?
 

mswolfe17

Well-Known Member
#25
John Tannius said:
Just read Prey did we?

While a perfectly good sight gag, Naru shouldn't be able to punch anyone that hard to begin with. Logic, catgirls and all that see?
Maaaaaybeeeeee :lol:

Actually I read it a few years ago, and just started another one of his books "Next" now. Anyone else read it yet?

^_^

In regards to PCHeintz answer , he never had a leg to break to begin with, but in order to not arouse suspicion that all that could happen to him, (what with a huge crowd watching and all) the nano-machines sent signals to his brain telling him that his leg was broken.

When there's not that many people around, the nano-machines (or nanos as they will be called from now on) didn't deem it necessary to try to hide it. The reason he didn't heal extremely fast is because it would arouse suspicion from doctors, who know that leg wouldn't heal that fast.

One difference between this and Prey is that the nanos in Prey reproduce from bacteria colonies, while these don't really need to reproduce, and if they do, they use bio-electrical energy supplied by Keitaro's brain.

The reason that doctors cannot see the nanos in, say, an x-ray, is because the nanos arrange themself into a perfect simulation of a normal human body.

Enough techno-babble for now,

Yes, Naru shouldn't be able to punch that hard, but by the same token, Motoko shouldn't be able to unleash ki waves so easily, despite being a kendoka, as dressing up in feminine clothes does not weaken a female swordsman.

However, we must remember that we are talking about an anime here that involves countries that do not exist (example: MolMol), magical girls that transform at the sight of a red moon, flying turtles, and people who can somehow understand the monosyllabic language of afore-mentioned flying turtles.

Logic doth not apply.
 
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