KOTOR crossover

[GhostElder]

I have an idea up for grabs.

Take one canon Revan out of Knights of the old Republic, master of the dark and light sides of the force, the whole bit. Toss him into a spatial anomaly/ get him stuck in a massive force crystal where he hibernates or some variation thereof.

The point is, take male Grey Jedi Revan and put him into the Star Wars movies, say around the beginning of Attack of the Clones.

For some reason I see him interrupting a youngling lightsaber practice, when he sees the younglings being taught Form VI, and eventually usurping the class.

(For more on Lightsaber Forms/combat styles go here)

Yes, I know this fic is on FFN, ItÆs Paths Never Crossed, and I wrote it. IÆm afraid to say I gave up personally writing quite some time ago, and frankly I don't think I'm all that good at it. Though IÆd thought about asking if someone wanted to continue it if they found it interesting.

Edit: Posted the wrong link, I've fixed it.

 

[SotF]

I may take it and try running with it. Had a slightly different idea as to how he could get to the era though, damaged hyperdrive+FTL=temporal problems

 

[GhostElder]

Would you like me to post the on or two chapters, well their not quite long enough to be chapters. but would any one want me to bring out what never quite made it to FFN?

 

[SotF]

Yeah, that would be nice.

I've got another Star Wars fic I've been trying to work the bugs out of.

 

[GhostElder]

Okay then, let me just dig around my old files and ah here it is, the beginning of a draft for chapter 3. By that time I finally decided on a name.

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Standing up and approaching what seemed to be a gathering of old comrades, he cleared his throat to call attention to himself. With that attention came a question he was sure that all three Jedi had on their minds, but the Padawan was the only one that wasnÆt going to wait until they were in private to ask.

ôI havenÆt seen you around the conclave before, who are you, and why did you fall into that restaurant?ö

He was a bit torn at the thought that he didnÆt know who he was, if this padawan didnÆt recognize him as Revan, then should he be told? For that moment he would give the name that the Jedi Council had decided on when they had modified his memory.

ôIÆm called Varan Selel, as to why I fell in on the Senators dinner I need to discuss that with the Council first and perhaps Master Vandar.ö

ôWho is Master Vandar?ö

That shocked Varen, he moved to tell him the name of Vandars species, but realized he didnÆt know it so instead he started to give them a physical description.

ôShort, green, large ears, three fingers or toes to a limbàö

ôThe only one matching that description is Master Yoda.ö

Turning his head to Kenobi as he spoke, his face still showing a schooled expression that nearly all Jedi learned while mastering their emotions, on the inside however Varen was puzzled. Never had he heard of a æMaster YodaÆ granted that he didnÆt know all of them, perhaps this Yoda was a new Jedi Knight?

ôMaster Kenobi before I leave could I talk to you in private for a moment?ö

ôVery well.ö

The two walked out to the balcony while the Padawan æAnnieÆ continued to rather awkwardly talk with Senator Amidala, which would have actually been funny had he been anything other than a Padawan.

When the balcony door closed after them Varen spoke,

ôAre you, sure that your Padawan should be on this assignment?ö

Kenobi frowned at his, obviously he had rather bluntly touched on a sore subject.

ôThis task is well within Anakins abilities.ö

ôThat isnÆt what IÆm talking about, and IÆm fairly sure you know that.ö

He had subtly told him to drop the subject, but Varen decided to press the issue. Just leaving things as they were didnÆt quite feel right.

ôAnakin is either falling for her or already in love Master Kenobi, such feelings without some tempering control could be used against himö

His face hardened into a deeper frown, before softening with a sigh.

ôIÆm quite aware of Anakins faults, ha has trouble with his self and emotional control at times, though he does well at physical, Force, and Light-Saber abilities.ö

ôThatÆs something of a recipe for trouble, a JediÆs mind and body should be disciplined near equally.ö

---

And that was all she wrote, or more accurately all I wrote.

 

[SoulGriever13]

Nifty. Though I've gotta say, even if it's just a flashback thing, and if it's 'canon', Revan/Bastilla annoys the hell out of me.

Well, no. _Bastilla_ annoys the hell out of me. The girl needs someone to either slap or screw the stupid out of her, and unusually, here I'm actually fonder of the first option. She grates on my nerves something fierce.

I guess what they say about first impressions is correct, since in my games of KOTOR Revan never considered her more than an associate, or maybe the bratty younger sister.

Besides, , looking at KOTOR fanfic out there, it's sadly monothematic.

As far as I can tell, there's only one decently writte alt.pairing story for the fandom, and it's post-game. Look up 'Shattered Knight' for some Yurutha/Revan goodness.

That's it.

One story.

There are some game plot alts, but most center around stuff like Revan never losing his memories and such, which gets annoying, especially if the author has follow-through difficulties.

Come _ON_ people, that can't be all of it, can it?

Where's the good stuff?

Where's the what ifs?

What if Revan's impression of the Jedi, as provided by Bastilla on Taris, and Carth's comments about their being less than on the level throughout resulted in his blowing off Bastilla's offers and either just dropping her on Dantooine or not going in the first place?

Or, hell, I was so utterly and totally pissed at the Jedi on Dantooine for the self-righteous _shite_ they pulled on Juhani as a 'training excercise'. I want a fic that starts or includes Revan giving them the finger and walking out, commenting that if that's what Jedi responsibility towards those they've sword to teach and care for looks like, he'll take his chances _elsewhere_.

Revan*to the council, pointing*: Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're okay *turns around to point to Bastilla* fuck you! I'm outta here. You staying or going, Juhani?

I mean, they knew where she was, knew that her nature was very emotional, and they just _left her_ there thinking she'd killed her Master ... yes, I'm ranting. I feel very strongly about this. Also, I think she's hot, but then I suppose I'm weird like that. Hell, maybe I'll actually write this one day.

Come on, be inventive, or just let yourself get pissed at something in the story as told by LucasArts and _fix_ it like you wanted to in the game.

And there's a sad deficit of Revan/Mission out there, too, come to think of it. This needs to be recitified. :sisi:

/rant

Eh. I'm done.

You want a pre-reader for this thing?

-Griever

 

[GhostElder]

Hmm, I thought that Revan might work with the Jedi if only to keep them from coming after him in addition to all of Malek's forces.

I could very easily see the Jedi going after him if Revan went off on his own like that. Whether it's being viewed as a rouge or 'dark' Jedi, too dangerous to be out of their control (It's for the safety of the republic. <_< ).

Thanks for the pre-reader offer (if it was even directed at me), though i don't think I'll be writing much more. I'm much more likely to be digging up old fic ideas from the depths of my computer files and seeing if anyone wants to run with them.

 

[SoulGriever13]

Hmm, I thought that Revan might work with the Jedi if only to keep them from coming after him in addition to all of Malek's forces.

At this point, he has no reason to believe they would bother, since while he may be Force Sensitive and even quite talented when he puts his mind to it, he's just a Republic Grunt/Tech/Scout or whatnot. In his mind, at least, people who treat their subordinates with such duplicity aren't ones he'd be willing to serve under or work for.

And the Council won't _admit_ what they did to Revan/that Darth Revan wasn't killed, simply because it would cause worse backlash to come unto them than it could bring them benifit.

Besides, if they want to go after him ... they have more important things on their mind than searching for one 'petulant child', especially if he has backup plans in place if they don't want to let him leave. I mean, Canderous would have had enough time to put down some thermal detonators in the Enclave, even if only to keep his skills sharp. Blackmail may be an ugly word, but hey, it works, and considering how the Council plays its games it doesn't exactly strike me as uncalled for.

-Griever

 

[SotF]

Hmm, I thought that Revan might work with the Jedi if only to keep them from coming after him in addition to all of Malek's forces.

At this point, he has no reason to believe they would bother, since while he may be Force Sensitive and even quite talented when he puts his mind to it, he's just a Republic Grunt/Tech/Scout or whatnot. In his mind, at least, people who treat their subordinates with such duplicity aren't ones he'd be willing to serve under or work for.

And the Council won't _admit_ what they did to Revan/that Darth Revan wasn't killed, simply because it would cause worse backlash to come unto them than it could bring them benifit.

Besides, if they want to go after him ... they have more important things on their mind than searching for one 'petulant child', especially if he has backup plans in place if they don't want to let him leave. I mean, Canderous would have had enough time to put down some thermal detonators in the Enclave, even if only to keep his skills sharp. Blackmail may be an ugly word, but hey, it works, and considering how the Council plays its games it doesn't exactly strike me as uncalled for.

-Griever

Especially if you consider some of what is described in one of the Darth Maul novels as being in effect. The Jedi are pretty self-righteous to the point of forcing kids into Jedi Training and cutting them off from their parents. At least in Bastila's case it was semi-willingly from her parents

 

[GhostElder]

Griever's method of him leaving works, I might have to play the game again, I thought he encountered Juhani after he had gotten retrained.

 

[SotF]

Griever's method of him leaving works, I might have to play the game again, I thought he encountered Juhani after he had gotten retrained.

The test thing is after being retrained, but you actually meet her before that if you talk to her when you first arive.

 

[ttestagr]

What if Revan's impression of the Jedi, as provided by Bastilla on Taris, and Carth's comments about their being less than on the level throughout resulted in his blowing off Bastilla's offers and either just dropping her on Dantooine or not going in the first place?

Or, hell, I was so utterly and totally pissed at the Jedi on Dantooine for the self-righteous _shite_ they pulled on Juhani as a 'training excercise'. I want a fic that starts or includes Revan giving them the finger and walking out, commenting that if that's what Jedi responsibility towards those they've sword to teach and care for looks like, he'll take his chances _elsewhere_.

Revan*to the council, pointing*: Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, you're okay *turns around to point to Bastilla* fuck you! I'm outta here. You staying or going, Juhani?

I mean, they knew where she was, knew that her nature was very emotional, and they just _left her_ there thinking she'd killed her Master ... yes, I'm ranting. I feel very strongly about this. Also, I think she's hot, but then I suppose I'm weird like that. Hell, maybe I'll actually write this one day.

Come on, be inventive, or just let yourself get pissed at something in the story as told by LucasArts and _fix_ it like you wanted to in the game.

And there's a sad deficit of Revan/Mission out there, too, come to think of it. This needs to be recitified. :sisi:

/rant

Eh. I'm done.

You want a pre-reader for this thing?

-Griever

That is the reason I like KOTOR 2. It's only saving grace for not being finished in my opinion, is that the story had the old order from the first game get pretty much wiped out and started over.

When we saw the Jedi Masters decide to be self-righteous and strip the exile I cheered when Kreia came, chewed them out, then killed them. Funny enough, Vrook was the only Master out of the three that I thought would have had that response, with him having to convince Kavar, and both of them convincing Zez Kai-El (likely spelled wrong.) I think a good AU can be started at that premise, with them not able to convince Kai-El to strip the exile or convince him to return to the jedi as they were. One of Kreia's goals was to have the exile change the jedi masters, and Kai-El was the best bet. What would Kreia's response have been at even that partial success?

 

[David Alan Abramczyk]

Have you ever been to KOTOR Fan Media? You can't move there without running into some sort of LSF Revan/Carth Waffy slush. They practically worship Raphael Sbarge there as a GOD, for chrissakes! And it isn't "The Telosian Angst Cake" they're drooling over, it's that schizo sociopath Atton Rand from KOTOR 2.

 

[SoulGriever13]

Nope, can't say I have.

Anything actually worthwhile on there?

And, basically, this little Revan-flips-off-the-Council idea was the result of mulling over unorthodox applications of Force powers. Specifically, I was considering that what if of Revan not bothering too much with recovering old skills fully - they didn't seem to help much last time, after all - and instead building on whatever the memories/skill engrams of the Council were.

Resulting in a Revan who has a fighting style resembling that of John Preston, on crack and meths, and refuses to use a lightsaber because he doesn't like the feel of it.

I don't recall anyone writing or creating a Gunslinger Jedi before, but it seemed like an interesting idea at the time.

-Griever

 

[David Alan Abramczyk]

There are a few crackin' stories, here and there, but you have to dig for them. Sort of like at FF.net, come to think of it.

 

[GhostElder]

Actually I think I saw a guide to create a Gunslinger Jedi once. Though that was years ago.

 

[Karnath]

SithLordDarthRevan has several fics you guys might like.

 

[The Eromancer]

yep, some

What really irks me about most of the fanfiction that comes out for KotOR is that EVERYONE... makes Revan female.

And to be honest I've only seen ONE fic that does that well.

Veil of Shadows

Very well written, and with (at the time) a new concept. Give it a read, oh and the best part is that its already fully complete.

 

[Paradigm Shifter]

Interestingly, when it comes to KotOR fic, I tend to favour Fem!Revan. However, I really dislike Carth. So Dark-Side!Fem!Revan tend to get my vote. ^_^

But I agree that most of the KotOR fic out there really ain't all that great. Which is a shame, as the source material is way better than the 'new' Trilogy... but the fic is worse. Go figure. <_<

 

[Christopher Robin]

The games tend to not bring it up, but based on some other stuff I've seen on wikis and stuff, semi-canonicly, Revan is male and the Exile is female.

 

[The Eromancer]

and this actually leads into why most of the authors write Revan as female in the first place.

You see its both parts feminism and some not so helpful lines from the second game that only served to reinforce their viewpoints no matter how scattered they were, at least to them.

Feminism because, as quite a few authors on ff.net put it to me: "George Lucas just doesn't give enough big female leads".

No, I'm not joking nor making fun of anyone, I'm completely serious.

The it was "reinforced" by the second game when Atton Rand says that Revan was a woman in his opening speech if you question him a little when ya first meet him. This in turn will then allow you to pick certain dialog that effects past history, LSM, DSM, LSF, DSF. (LS=lightside, DS=darkside, M=male, F=female, respectively)

To me, its always been Darkside Male Revan in the end and Lightside (don't care which gender) Exile. So to that it explains much as to how the Jedi actually rebuilt themselves. The exile HAD to be lightside. As for Revan, he was a true Sith Lord threw and threw, the Sith teaching is all about using emotions not "just" anger and hate, though those are truely the most effective in combat if you can control them, if they control you your "chains" aren't exactly broken so the force can't set you free. I do support that him and Bastilla had something going on between them that was FAR more than just master/apprentice relationship. Even if some of us don't like it, ya know its true.

Like hating the Akane/Ranma relationship but knowing no matter how much or how fiercely you bitch about it, it still DOESN'T change the fact that it still ended up that way.

 

[toraneko]

Unless you fic it another way.

That's what a lot of the most driven authors write fanfic for; dissatisfaction with the original material. That's why Ranma 1/2, NGE, Naruto, et cetera all get huge numbers of fanfics - there's no end of points where a prospective author can say, "WTF? I could write this shit better myself. In fact, I think I will!"

As I haven't had the chance to play the KoToR games (no Xbox, PC is too shitty, and no money to buy it) all I've got is side info, so my contribution here is limited. However, I'm a diehard Star Wars fan, especially of the Expanded Universe, and I'll readily read fanfiction of it - provided it's well-written, of course. I'm a discerning geek.

 

[SotF]

Unless you fic it another way.

That's what a lot of the most driven authors write fanfic for; dissatisfaction with the original material. That's why Ranma 1/2, NGE, Naruto, et cetera all get huge numbers of fanfics - there's no end of points where a prospective author can say, "WTF? I could write this shit better myself. In fact, I think I will!"

As I haven't had the chance to play the KoToR games (no Xbox, PC is too shitty, and no money to buy it) all I've got is side info, so my contribution here is limited. However, I'm a diehard Star Wars fan, especially of the Expanded Universe, and I'll readily read fanfiction of it - provided it's well-written, of course. I'm a discerning geek.

I believe there is either a novel or comic book adaptation of KotOR available.

 

[Fosfor]

Unless you fic it another way.

That's what a lot of the most driven authors write fanfic for; dissatisfaction with the original material. That's why Ranma 1/2, NGE, Naruto, et cetera all get huge numbers of fanfics - there's no end of points where a prospective author can say, "WTF? I could write this shit better myself. In fact, I think I will!"

As I haven't had the chance to play the KoToR games (no Xbox, PC is too shitty, and no money to buy it) all I've got is side info, so my contribution here is limited. However, I'm a diehard Star Wars fan, especially of the Expanded Universe, and I'll readily read fanfiction of it - provided it's well-written, of course. I'm a discerning geek.

I believe there is either a novel or comic book adaptation of KotOR available.

A comic. Telling a story of Zayne Carrick, a jedi padawan who is not only shit out of luck but also framed by his master and his associates for killing his fellow padawans. Good stuff.

It introduces a younger Malak and shows how Mandalorian War REALLY went - meaning Revan didn't just bitchslap Mandalorians after giving a finger tot he Council - it shows just how big of ablow Republic was given while Jedi sat and did, bascially, nothing. It aslo neatly shows just why Revan turned out the way he did. Though Zayne is still a main character, that particular comic is simply great.

...

And I think I've been put into Star Wars mode...

Goodamit.

No. No. No. Too many fics already to write and not enough time. I must be strong and resolute and not let my inner Star Wars fanboy out.

 

[Mighty Bob]

Unless you fic it another way.

That's what a lot of the most driven authors write fanfic for; dissatisfaction with the original material. That's why Ranma 1/2, NGE, Naruto, et cetera all get huge numbers of fanfics - there's no end of points where a prospective author can say, "WTF? I could write this shit better myself. In fact, I think I will!"

As I haven't had the chance to play the KoToR games (no Xbox, PC is too shitty, and no money to buy it) all I've got is side info, so my contribution here is limited. However, I'm a diehard Star Wars fan, especially of the Expanded Universe, and I'll readily read fanfiction of it - provided it's well-written, of course. I'm a discerning geek.

I believe there is either a novel or comic book adaptation of KotOR available.

A comic. Telling a story of Zayne Carrick, a jedi padawan who is not only shit out of luck but also framed by his master and his associates for killing his fellow padawans. Good stuff.

It introduces a younger Malak and shows how Mandalorian War REALLY went - meaning Revan didn't just bitchslap Mandalorians after giving a finger tot he Council - it shows just how big of ablow Republic was given while Jedi sat and did, bascially, nothing. It aslo neatly shows just why Revan turned out the way he did. Though Zayne is still a main character, that particular comic is simply great.

...

And I think I've been put into Star Wars mode...

Goodamit.

No. No. No. Too many fics already to write and not enough time. I must be strong and resolute and not let my inner Star Wars fanboy out.

Holy mudder fuckin gods...much as I'd be willing to pays cash (not saying how much, but cash none-the-less) to see Fosfor finish any one of his other fics (though I have no problems taking em as they come, I just love his writing) I'd give up my job and take up a religion in his name if he were to whip out Star Wars fics. Prequels, Original Trilogy or Expanded Universe, any and all of those.

Damn, I almost feel torn over whether or not I should encourage his plot bunnies to breed rampantly or not... :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger: