Official ScarletP No Shopping List!

Scratx

Well-Known Member
#1
Any village listed here in this post is on the official "Do Not Hit" list in ScarletP.

Please keep in mind we have better things to do than trawling through endless threads looking for every change to this list's composition everyday, so this is our one and only stop to figure out who's who.

Any change to the list must be communicated to us, either via MageOhki or one of the Vice-Kages, so I may update it accordingly. This means merely posting on this thread about changes is not a guarantee it will be updated in a timely fashion.

Hopefully, there won't be any shopping, accidental or not, in friendly Malls after this. At least, as long as we're kept informed...

One final note: No Bawwwwing on this thread.

TFF Block:
* 3rd Eye
* Athenaeum
* Bloodstone
* Camelot
* Citrus
* Dai Gurren
* Hakurei
* Mewtwo
* Neo Kaiju
* Nyx
* Pasta
* Pirates
* RPG
* ScarletP
* SRW OG
* Tenkyouin
* TFF II
* TFF Zero
* That
* The Epic
* Toxic
* UNIT
* University
* WildKat

Non-TFF

* Shoukyaku
* Warcraft
* Erdos
* Delicious
* Malcanthet

- List valid as of 2010/10/14
 

Vexarian

Well-Known Member
#2
Are you even pretending to be a member of the TFF alliance anymore?

We already have this thread. It's STICKIED, it's the only fucking thread in the god damn forum outside of the rules and rants sections to BE sticked. And on top of that, it's right HERE!

Are you TFF-Rejects really so disconnected from the alliance as a whole that you need an entirely separate No-Hit List just to be able to avoid backstabbing us?

Scratx said:
Please keep in mind we have better things to do than trawling through endless threads looking for every change to this list's composition everyday, so this is our one and only stop to figure out who's who.
And to quote myself in the very same thread you fools have ignored.

me said:
Mageohki said:
Vex: Why is it MY responsbilty? You've made it quite clear that you don't consdier me or mine TFF.

As for your INSULTS to me and mine. I'd SHUT the hell up if I was you.? No _one_ said the village in question was TFF to me, so, I'd suggest removing your HEAD from your ass, understand?

A.
Because YOU are the Kage you reject.

And how hard is it to check this one thread anyway?! It's twelve pages long, and was made over a year ago, it's not exactly full of spam to trudge through. Any additions to the TFF Alliance are announced here, and the current up to date list of alliance members is the first (occasionally second) post on every page, starting around page 3 or 4.

Hell, it's even the same guy who's keeping the damn list up to date, and using identical formats. You have no excuse whatsoever.
Scratx said:
Hopefully, there won't be any shopping, accidental or not, in friendly Malls after this. At least, as long as we're kept informed...
I love how you accuse your own idiotic negligence on someone, anyone else but yourselves.

Scratx said:
One final note: No Bawwwwing on this thread.
You know, I just realized why I hate Scarlet so bad. Because they AREN'T Scarlet any longer. They've become RANDOM. Some twisted, horrific amalgamation of Scarlet Village and Random Village. RandomPink if you will.
 

Left Shoe

Well-Known Member
#4
Vex, no one really cares anymore about how you got butthurt two years ago. I don't think there's a single person who doesn't hate it when you wave your shit in everyone's face. Please cut it out already.

EDIT: (And no, I'm not defending Scarlet. Both of you can be equally annoying - don't stoop to such a low level.)
 

Vexarian

Well-Known Member
#5
Left Shoe said:
Vex, no one really cares anymore about how you got butthurt two years ago.? I don't think there's a single person who doesn't hate it when you wave your shit in everyone's face.? Please cut it out already.

EDIT: (And no, I'm not defending Scarlet.? Both of you can be equally annoying - don't stoop to such a low level.)
First of all, two years ago?

Second of all, HAET

Third of all, and this one refers specifically to Scratx, this shit is one of the reasons I hate Random-Nin, (Which Scarlet-Nin are until such a time as they pull their shit together). Casually disregarding any dissent like a bunch of stuck-up assholes.
 

nantukoprime

Well-Known Member
#6
nibble, nibble.

Hey, we list ourselves?

Why can't we attack ourselves? I was pretty sure we can invade ourselves.

I don't keep up with name changes, so some of those villages I don't recognize.

Like who the hell are Jeuno, Vale, and Malcanthet.

Beyond villages I've probably bingo'd accidentally.

Hmmm....Nyx is Exodus? When did they blow?

Edit: Huh, Jeuno is Garahs. Chalk one up to "the more you know." That just leaves Vale and Malcanthet. Apologies to Garahs if I've hit villagers randomly over months. And you're welcome if they got Anon from it.
 

Mageohki

Well-Known Member
#7
Vex: No. We just discard YOU.

Perhaps, if you didn't beg for BASIC help in math, or come in pissing off everyone ELSE, in an IRC channel, you'd not have gotten banned. Dissent? Sure, love it.
STUPDITY, we don't. You DO realize you're the ONLY person EVER to be KICKED, much less banned from BvSScarlet, and it WASN'T for dissent. Think again.

For proof, if you're so eager to belive otherwise, why don't you talk to Cornuthaum?

[sarcasm]I'm sure he's an slavish follower of me. [/sarcasm] *SNORT*


A.
 

Vexarian

Well-Known Member
#9
Mageohki said:
Vex: No. We just discard YOU.

Perhaps, if you didn't beg for BASIC help in math, or come in pissing off everyone ELSE, in an IRC channel, you'd not have gotten banned.? Dissent? Sure, love it.
STUPDITY, we don't.? You DO realize you're the ONLY person EVER to be KICKED, much less banned from BvSScarlet, and it WASN'T for dissent.? Think again.

For proof, if you're so eager to belive otherwise, why don't you talk to Cornuthaum?

[sarcasm]I'm sure he's an slavish follower of me. [/sarcasm] *SNORT*


A.
Not talking about that.

Kudos for thinking I'm as petty as you though.

Edit:

@Left Shoe, Actually I believe it's only been six months or so.

@MageOhki, kindly stop saying that, people might start thinking it's the truth.
 

B.B. Rain

Well-Known Member
#10
Question: This "shopping" thing references invasion, right?

'Cause I just hit up the first village on the list for my daily Bingo, and I had the impression that it was okay if it turned out to be an allied village, since it's pretty rare for a 15-minute Bingo soon after dayroll to seriously screw anyone up, and, uh...

I think my point is, are you worried about people from allied village hitting you with a soft Bingo?

EDIT: OK, thanks. And, uh...I still Bingo first thing in the day to snag the extra 50 Appetite and Style Points (Points for PW Cards).
 

Mageohki

Well-Known Member
#11
B.B. Rain said:
Question: This "shopping" thing references invasion, right?

'Cause I just hit up the first village on the list for my daily Bingo, and I had the impression that it was okay if it turned out to be an allied village, since it's pretty rare for a 15-minute Bingo soon after dayroll to seriously screw anyone up, and, uh...

I think my point is, are you worried about people from allied village hitting you with a soft Bingo?
No, the current effective argeement between the 'F3' is simple. We don't invade each other, or at least not supposed to. That simple (and who needs to bingo anymore?)

Stop saying -what-, Vex? The truth? Tsk, tsk.
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Zanzopan

Well-Known Member
#12
I think you need to both go to your own respective corners. Don't make me get out my Pointed Cone Hat<sup>TM</sup>. Particularity you Vex. You are being way over aggressive. Please stop.
 

jwolf0

Well-Known Member
#13
nantukoprime said:
Like who the hell are Jeuno, Vale, and Malcanthet.
Vale is a village akun50 (Cerl, Azalyn) started with some friends of his. Malcanthet is one of Fax's villages (under his alt Xochitl)
 

Mageohki

Well-Known Member
#15
I'm sorry, but I have logs and witnesses. So, if you WANT to start this again, I am more than willing to show you -excatly- what you did to piss the CHANNEL off. I had _5_ people EXPLCTLY request your ban THAT day ALONE.


Do you REALLY want to be publically destroyed?


I can and WILL do it.


A.
 

crazylike.A.

Well-Known Member
#16
well, it's kinda... mh...

Come on guys, why don't we all do something together instead of fighting? I know, let's go destroy gyoshido's village.

Or something like that.
 

Skelethin

Well-Known Member
#17
Vex... no one cares about you and your imaged slights against you.

Fuck, this thread has nothing to do with you at all.

So stop trolling and get the fuck out of the thread. And please don't bait the cabbit... he has horrid enough self-control as it is.
 

Vexarian

Well-Known Member
#18
Fuck it.

Mageohki said:
I'm sorry, but I have logs and witnesses.? So, if you WANT to start this again, I am more than willing to show you -excatly- what you did to piss the CHANNEL off. I had _5_ people EXPLCTLY request your ban THAT day ALONE.


Do you REALLY want to be publically destroyed?


I can and WILL do it.?


A.
You mean this shit?

#01[13:44] <Vexarian> The bug I found is that Milling does not take into account the Contract Booster.
#06[13:45] * Buretsu takes a bow.
[13:45] <Buretsu> What do I win?
#01[13:45] <Vexarian> Whatever that upgrade is that increases donated contract value.
#01[13:45] <Vexarian> It does not affect milled contracts.
[13:46] <dipple> is that a bug
[13:46] <Buretsu> Nah.
#01[13:46] <Vexarian> Of course it is.
#03[13:47] * Pheles (~mickl3@NewNet-5741D814.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #BvSScarlet
[13:48] <Buretsu> Oh, of course...
#01[13:49] <Vexarian> Is that Sarcasm because I don
#01[13:49] <Vexarian> Don't like your damned attitude.
#02[13:49] * Pheles (~mickl3@NewNet-5741D814.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) Quit (No route to host#)
[13:49] <Drazhar> Jesus fucking christ dude
[13:49] <Drazhar> it's not a bug
[13:49] <dipple> get mad!
[13:49] <Drazhar> milling is not submitting
[13:49] <dipple> or is it
#01[13:50] <Vexarian> What?
#01[13:50] <Vexarian> You're not transmuting the damned contracts into turkeys.
[13:50] <Drazhar> Oh really?
[13:50] <Drazhar> You're running them through a MILL
[13:50] <Drazhar> They're not exactly contracts anymore.
[13:50] <Buretsu> Think of it as a lottery.
[13:50] <Drazhar> As if this concept hasn't been pointed out 11DB times and slammed down each time
#01[13:51] <Vexarian> That's retarded.
#01[13:51] <Vexarian> You get Ryo from Milling.
[13:51] <Buretsu> As a prize.
[13:51] <Drazhar> Your point?
[13:51] <Drazhar> You get ryo from missions too
#01[13:51] <Vexarian> You're still consuming the god damn contracts.
[13:51] <dipple> the village upgrade does specifically say DONATED contracts....
[13:51] <Drazhar> What dipple said.
#01[13:51] <Vexarian> As opposed to what?
[13:51] <Buretsu> So if the upgrade said something about 'consumed contracts'
#01[13:51] <Vexarian> Sold contracts?
[13:51] <Drazhar> ....
#01[13:51] <Vexarian> Because you can sell Contracts too.
[13:52] <Buretsu> as opposed to milled contracts
[13:52] <Drazhar> NO SHIT SHERLOCK
[13:52] <Buretsu> So by your logic, we should get +10% Ryo when we sell contracts
#01[13:52] <Vexarian> And Consumed Contracts just sounds dumb.
[13:52] <Drazhar> DONATED =/= Milled =/= Sold
[13:52] <Drazhar> MAGE!
[13:52] <Buretsu> Good thing that's not what it says.
[13:52] <Buretsu> It says 'Donated'
[13:52] <Buretsu> 'Milled' is not the same thing as 'Donated'
#01[13:53] <Vexarian> Why not?
[13:53] <Buretsu> Because it's a different word
[13:53] <@MageOhki> Vexarian: It's _NOT_ a bug.
[13:53] <@MageOhki> PERIOD.
#01[13:53] <Vexarian> 1.? to present as a gift, grant, or contribution; make a donation of, as to a fund or cause: to donate used clothes to the Salvation Army.
#01[13:54] <Vexarian> Either way you're getting nothing while the Village is/
[13:54] <@MageOhki> You have _2_ PC members, a Mod, and several others telling you IT's NOT.
[13:54] <Buretsu> I don't see 'mill'
[13:54] <@MageOhki> It.
[13:54] <@MageOhki> Is.
[13:54] <@MageOhki> Not.
[13:54] <@MageOhki> A.
[13:54] <@MageOhki> Bug.
[13:54] <@MageOhki> End.
[13:54] <@MageOhki> Of.
[13:54] <@MageOhki> Story.
[13:54] <@MageOhki> So, for the love of god, DROP it.
#01[13:55] <Vexarian> Hm... No.
[13:55] <Shin_Naoya> Vex - at best, you're going to just make the poor man clarify.
[13:55] <Shin_Naoya> This way, it's a choice.
[13:55] <Shin_Naoya> You can get 110% of your contract value.
#01[13:56] <Vexarian> So far all I've received is a brow beating by three guys.
[13:56] <Buretsu> If you think it's a bug, Report it then shaddup.
#01[13:56] <Vexarian> You already have a choice.
[13:56] <Drazhar> Yeah
[13:56] <Shin_Naoya> Or you can sacrifice that, getting only 100%, for a chance to get items.
#01[13:56] <Vexarian> Submit it and get X amount for sure.
[13:56] <Drazhar> No
#01[13:56] <Vexarian> Mill it and spin the roulette.
[13:56] <Drazhar> it's not X
[13:56] <@MageOhki> Vex: FUCKING DROP IT.
[13:56] <Drazhar> it's X * 1.1
#03[13:56] * Pheles (~mickl3@NewNet-5741D814.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #BvSScarlet
[13:56] <@MageOhki> or I'll recommend you get BANNED.
[13:56] <dipple> lol
#01[13:56] <Vexarian> Mage is so reasonable.
[13:57] <@MageOhki> Vexarian: you're being told by mods, PC council members, and others it's not a bug.
[13:57] <@MageOhki> that it's been reported AND SLAPPED DOWN ALREADY.
[13:57] <dipple> if it gets reported that often maybe it should just get changed lol
[13:57] <@MageOhki> This IS being reasonable. I'm TIRED of listening ot McM ranting about failboats.
[13:57] <Vasey> Mage is the very picture of moderation.
#01[13:57] <Vexarian> Mage routinely froths at the mouth.
[13:57] <Buretsu> Mage is moderate for a Pinknin.
[13:58] <Shin_Naoya> Mage - is it being reported as often as the -2 levels thing yet?
[13:58] <@MageOhki> Vexarian: Mabye if I didn't have to listen to failboats...
[13:58] <@MageOhki> Shin: Yes.
[13:58] <dipple> hahaha
[13:58] <@MageOhki> Vexarian: the upgrade EXPLICTLY lists "_DONATION_"
#01[13:58] <Vexarian> -2 Levels thing? You mean the Sword of the Reaper or something I don't know about?
[13:58] <Buretsu> yeah, that
[13:58] <@MageOhki> Milling != Donation
[13:58] <Shin_Naoya> Yeah, SotR.
[13:58] <@MageOhki> End of story.
[13:58] <Laurea_> You mean the -2 levels IS NOT SA BUG??
[13:58] <Shin_Naoya> Hahaha.
[13:58] <@MageOhki> Mabye it's just me, but it's pretty clearly worded.
[13:58] <Laurea_> :p
[13:59] <Buretsu> No, it's a bug, McM just hasn't gotten enough BRs to fix it >_>
[13:59] <@MageOhki> So, l2r, to quote McM.
[13:59] <@MageOhki> which is VERY likey to be the response, if you EVEN GET ONE.
[13:59] <@MageOhki> So, why not spare the poor bastards who have to read bug reports their 91st time sending you a "Learn to read, moron, and don't add meaning" response.
[14:00] <@MageOhki> 'casue honestly, if you haven't figured out "LITERAL MEANING ONLY" yet, applies EXPCILTY in Billy, where have you been?
[14:00] <Drazhar> Shin
[14:00] <dipple> expcilty?
[14:00] <Shin_Naoya> Yo?
[14:00] <Drazhar> It's probably being reported more than the -2 levels thing
[14:00] <Shin_Naoya> Hahaha.
[14:00] <@MageOhki> Dipple: Hush.
#01[14:01] <Vexarian> @Mage, no it doesn't.
[14:01] <@MageOhki> ... Oh, so, you're calling McM a liar.
[14:01] <@MageOhki> Fine.
#06[14:01] * Drazhar headdesks
[14:01] <@MageOhki> Good.
[14:01] <dipple> im sure that megatsukiball BRs will slowly overtake the other two
#01[14:01] <Vexarian> No.
[14:01] <@MageOhki> Yes, you are.
[14:01] <@MageOhki> That's from HIM>
[14:01] <@MageOhki> NOT US.
[14:01] <Drazhar> What is there to BR about Megatsukiball?
#01[14:01] <Vexarian> But you saying everything is literal literal is retarded.
[14:01] <@MageOhki> ... FOR BILLY IT IS.
[14:01] <@MageOhki> THAT IS from McM.
[14:02] <dipple> ah, he did go ahead and change the megatsukiball description
[14:02] <@MageOhki> So, ergo, you're calling him a liar.
[14:02] <@MageOhki> that simple.
[14:02] <dipple> before it just said 20x price 20x tickets 20x items, which wasn't really how it worked exactly
[14:02] <@MageOhki> Dipple: If it's not working literally, it's broken. And he needs to know.
[14:03] <@MageOhki> that's why he stated that LONG ago, and it's pretty much listed "Read the EXCAT descrption."
[14:03] <Drazhar> S'why it says Donated contracts
#06[14:03] * @MageOhki NODS.
#01[14:03] <Vexarian> Question.
#01[14:04] <Vexarian> Oh fuck, forget it.
#01[14:04] <Vexarian> Arguing with a screaming toddler isn't the best way I could be spending my time.
#01[14:04] <Vexarian> For example I could ignore Mage.
[14:04] <Shin_Naoya> OK, Vex? Piss off.
[14:04] <Drazhar> You could, but would it get you anywhere?
[14:04] <Shin_Naoya> You started this hostility.
[14:04] <dipple> haha yeah right
[14:05] <Laurea_> WE didn't start the flame war! :p
[14:05] <Drazhar> You have to remember Vex, at the moment you're exhibiting the spoiled child behavior of: "I'm right because I say so"
[14:05] <@MageOhki> Goodbye, enjoy your ban.
[14:05] <Drazhar> I can see why Mage is as incensed as he is.
#03[14:05] * MageOhki sets mode: +b *!*@NewNet-BAE0550C.hsd1.ma.comcast.net
[14:05] <Buretsu> It was always burning since the BRs have been returning
#03[14:05] * You were kicked by MageOhki (For being a fucking moron#)
Session Close: Mon Feb 01 14:05:31 2010
Oh and FYI Mage, threatening to release information that *I* released four months ago, on the day this bullshit occurred. Yeah that's a terrible idea, it makes you look retarded. Er, retardeder. (Is that even a word?)

I can admit I was being aggressive at the time, and overly harsh, both of which most likely compounded by my, at the time, overwhelming lack of eloquence in expressing my words.

But even so, I still couldn't give two flaming llama shits about what happened that day. If you think I valued your channel highly, or even at all, you are sorely mistaken. All that I really lost that day was my patience. That, and any respect I had left for you that was restraining me from openly persecuting you for... well, everything. Your overinflated ego, your complete inability to make rational decisions, your mindbogglingly severe "Us versus Them" mentality. And of course your complete inability to exert any sort of self-control over your own actions, or for that matter follow anything even vaguely resembling a code of ethics.

But until this incident I restrained myself from openly disrespecting you, and bit my tongue whenever the urge to cuss you out occurred. Granted I had always criticized you on the aforementioned traits whenever you decided to do something particularly exemplary of them. An example being when you lead your last crusade against Lord Raine, which was motivated by a potent combination of Stupidity and Irrationality. At the time of this incident, and for a great amount of time beforehand, Lord Raine wasn't even playing the game, much less in any sort of leadership position. The only sort of possible explanation for your near fanatical opposition for his/her mere existence could be a bias on your part, and a complete lack of any ability, or willingness to realize or restrain yourself from acting on it.

These are not good qualities for a leader. Or even a human being.

You are, without exaggeration, one of the worst people I have ever met. And the worst part is, you probably don't even realize it.
 

Mageohki

Well-Known Member
#20
He doesn't. He didn't read. There wasn't dissent agasint me, but dissent _agasint_ McM, you know, the creator of the game? When told repeatedly "It's NOT a bug, it has been reported before, it's been clairified, it's been said over and over" Well. Vex really doesn't read well, does he?

NOT to mention the fact he was attacking Buretsu, who was being civil (well, mostly) Then me, who had that little "@" by his name.
NOT to mention he was -disobeying- an Op. When an OP in _ANY_ IRC channel says _DROP_ it, you're SUPPOSED to. that's IRC rules. (Yes, Vex, that's what the little @ means by names. People who you're SUPPOSED TO OBEY, while in their channels)

Not to mention he had people ripping into him, and insulting ops and other behavior. Sorry, Vex, but you proved MY point. NOT yours. We were telling you... "THis is McM's rules, that he's REPEATEDLY stated." You just didn't want to listen. _YOU_ started the personal attacks. YOU didn't drop a subject WHEN ORDERED to by a CHANNEL OP.

And you WONDERED why you got banned? Dude, I've been in channels where you'd have been kicked the FIRST line about a subject after "Drop it" came out, or after the first personal attack.

You were warned. You were told to stop it. You didn't. Sorry your feelings got hurt, but YOU broke _every_ IRC rule. YOU attacked others, who WERE trying to be helpful.

Truth hurts.

Hades, Vex, you had THE NICEST person in CHANNEL, going "Piss the #### off"

WHen that happens, you ARE going to get banned even in the MOST laid back channel.

How hard is it to understand that, Vex?
YOU were the one who disobeyed an request from a channel op.
YOU were the one starting personal attacks.
You refused to listen to people who've LISTENED to McM, go "Wah, wah, wah" which means, what you were being told _WAS_ NOT THE VIEW OF THE CHANNEL, but the VIEW OF THE GAME CREATOR.

So, as noted before, you were dammed lucky you weren't banned EARLIER.

This wasn't your -first- time misbehaving ETHIER.

Mabye we should have rapped your hands before, but we TRY to run a laid back channel.

And as for proof you can't read (I'll admit that I'm nearly as bad, by responding to you..) the -very- top of this thread makes it clear this _ISN'T_ the thread for this, and you still do it here.

*shakes head* You do realize that you're proving every complaint agasint you that I and others have _correct_?

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Steel

Well-Known Member
#21
Vex, those logs make you look bad, and in the past I have repeatedly fucked with Mage.

Also the people in my irc channels routinely ignore ops, but then again that sort of thing has never mattered to us.
 

Mageohki

Well-Known Member
#22
To be fair, it wasn't so much the disobediance of dropping a topic, when requested, it was his basic personal attacks on more than one person, plus, basically, having DRAZHAR of all people going "Dude, you're acting like a spoiled brat" and Shin basically telling him to piss off that finally got him.

THAT is what got him banned. Pure and simple. And yes, Steel, It's not that you disagree with me (you do, no problems. Hell, ask Corn how many times we've gone at it) It's behavior that counts.

Hades, personally, IIRC, our major disagreement came over Ranma-chan, you stated your position, I went "Okay, no problem."
'casue you did it logically, simply, and basically "I disagree. Not my thing."
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ellf

Well-Known Member
#24
I'd held off on weighing in, as I'd hoped this would resolve itself.


Vex. Your problems with Scarlet started that day. Ever since you've taken every available opportunity to attempt to bash it. We make a minor mistake in invading and apologize, and ask Left Shoe to update the list. Then you come in after the fact and call Mage a retard, violating Rule 1 of the forum, btw... not that Hawk really cares at this point.

Scratx made this list so that Scarlet could keep track of their own allies and do not invade targets. Why? Because our do not invade is larger than the sum of TFF, and we need a list that we can check easily. But no, you see this as a troll thread... and must troll the thread.

Mage's "missing the point" seems to stem from the fact that you are holding a grudge over the stupidest thing. For someone who couldn't care less about the channel, you certainly are doing a good job about hating someone for something you did wrong.

Oh wait, you say this isn't about that. Then what is it about? Mage's leadership? No. Mage was never your leader. Why should you care how he treats his subordinates? Which btw, he treats us fine.

Vex, please, for your own sake, stop digging yourself deeper into a hole. The more you talk on this issue, the worse you make yourself look. Trying to vilify Mage won't help you, especially the way you're going about it. You're only hurting yourself.
 

aledeth

Well-Known Member
#25
VexTheWarlord said:
Wow, way to completely miss the fucking point.
How about just outright saying what the point we are all missing is?

I'm curious.


~Edut'd out everything else, since it was almost an echo of Ellf's.
 
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