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If you read the rest of my post, which none of you seemed to have done. You'd have learned that I held no love for Mage for a long, long time before that incident. I don't even think I liked him the day I met him. Of course I didn't hold any animosity towards him at the time, why should I? Of course that was when I just thought he was creepy. I soon discovered he was also an idiot, and my opinion of him has only spiraled downwards since.
I don't care about how he dotes on his Villagers (which I don't doubt FYI), what I care about is how fucking irresponsible he is. He's not JUST a leader of Scarlet, he's also a member of the TFF Alliance, even if he only seems to use that status to corrode us from within.
I don't like being aligned with Mage. At all. I don't like him. I openly consider him to be a terrible person. And I hate the fact that such an atrocious person has as much control over the alliance as he does. I'm also offended by the fact that he has managed to acrue so much power in this game, heading one of the more powerful villages in THE most powerful alliance, and being a member of the Player Council, I see nothing of value coming from either of these.
Don't mistake this for jealousy, I'm not trying to say that. Although I would like either or both of those perks, I would prefer someone else, anyone else to this flaming idiot.
Even Giffica.
@Aledeth, I thought this to be a fitting place for a pointless argument about Mage, being a pointless thread by Mage (Well endorsed by Mage, whatever).
I don't care about how he dotes on his Villagers (which I don't doubt FYI), what I care about is how fucking irresponsible he is. He's not JUST a leader of Scarlet, he's also a member of the TFF Alliance, even if he only seems to use that status to corrode us from within.
I don't like being aligned with Mage. At all. I don't like him. I openly consider him to be a terrible person. And I hate the fact that such an atrocious person has as much control over the alliance as he does. I'm also offended by the fact that he has managed to acrue so much power in this game, heading one of the more powerful villages in THE most powerful alliance, and being a member of the Player Council, I see nothing of value coming from either of these.
Don't mistake this for jealousy, I'm not trying to say that. Although I would like either or both of those perks, I would prefer someone else, anyone else to this flaming idiot.
Even Giffica.
@Aledeth, I thought this to be a fitting place for a pointless argument about Mage, being a pointless thread by Mage (Well endorsed by Mage, whatever).
Take the good with the bad, Vex! You don't have to deal with Mage or any of the Scarlet Nins anymore. Heck, you don't even have to talk to the Player Council at all. You can play BvS and never once have to talk to anyone else but your villagers or village mates.
So really, I don't see why you continue to do this. *Nor* do I wish to see why you do this.
*Munches on a fresh bowl as a raptor stole the first.*
So really, I don't see why you continue to do this. *Nor* do I wish to see why you do this.
*Munches on a fresh bowl as a raptor stole the first.*
t: Doubtful, acutally. Given that at least a third of their villages are well. Um. dead.
but there IS no real allanaces anymore. Period. There's no way to wage war. There is no way to realistically DO anything to anyone. Basically, villages are on their own, and have been that way for months. The TFF allance, is dead, and all that remains is effectivly "We agree NOT to hit each other." Even Sabo isn't worth it.
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but there IS no real allanaces anymore. Period. There's no way to wage war. There is no way to realistically DO anything to anyone. Basically, villages are on their own, and have been that way for months. The TFF allance, is dead, and all that remains is effectivly "We agree NOT to hit each other." Even Sabo isn't worth it.
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Okay.
*ellf?takes a deep breath and cracks his knuckles.
Ignoring your flagrant disregard for the rules of the forum that we are on, which won't matter in the long run due to an absent mod, I shall attempt to address your points. Considering most of your points are based entirely off of subjective ideals that are within your own mind, I shall not attempt to get a full understanding of why you believe these things, but instead shall try to objectively placate your points and prove how you are making yourself look bad by continuing to act in the manner you are acting.
The first point. You dislike Mage. Okay, flat out, that seems to be the source of all of your problems. You don't like the man. Big deal. Get over it. There will always be times where people you don't like are in power, and you may not want them in power... but you suck it up and deal with it because they won't have power forever. The feeling of dislike is probably mutual at this point, heck, I don't know if Mage ever liked you. Even if he did, the fact that you seem to consider him an idiot probably damaged the hope of him ever liking you. Then again, you probably don't care about that.
I'm not saying Mage is a saint. No, far from it. Mage does seem to exaggerate and be very opinionated at times, but overall, I find Mage to be an enjoyable person to be around, and several other people do as well.
Okay. Onto the accruing of power. Mage has garnered power to himself by acting smartly. He has made diplomatic deals with various people, and has earned a spot on the Player Council. The fact that he holds high weight in the "alliance" is because he has sanely discussed various things with other kages, and he has yet to make the alliance look bad.
The crusade against Lord Raine? Which I hate to bring up because as of recent times, Lord Raine has been very civil, and I don't really like to bring up bad memories, but that was because at the time Lord Raine had made a few comments that made the alliance look bad. The idea there was to dissociate comments from Lord Raine from the alliance as a whole. Which it successfully did, even if it did cause bad blood.
Now... As for your dislike of Mage, why not ignore his posts? Hmm? Or are you afraid that the things you are saying about Mage people will believe about you if you don't point out that Mage is these things? Or maybe you hope that people will believe you if you yell that you're right at the top of your lungs over and over again.
What you don't seem to get is that these little outbursts of yours, Vex, make you out to be the person that you claim Mage is. Mage has done nothing publicly to lose the support of the people who support him, and every single time you post something snarky or hostile to Mage, especially when it isn't provoked, you dig yourself deeper. What little support you had will fade from you if you continue down this path.
Vex, I'm sure at your core you are a decent human being, but the internet is bringing out an ugly side to you because of this little issue that you refuse to get over.
Oh, and one more thing. If you don't like Scarlet or being associated with Mage, you are always free to leave and never associate with him again. Of course, then you'd probably become a true Enemy of Scarlet. Not too many of those around these days.
*ellf?takes a deep breath and cracks his knuckles.
Ignoring your flagrant disregard for the rules of the forum that we are on, which won't matter in the long run due to an absent mod, I shall attempt to address your points. Considering most of your points are based entirely off of subjective ideals that are within your own mind, I shall not attempt to get a full understanding of why you believe these things, but instead shall try to objectively placate your points and prove how you are making yourself look bad by continuing to act in the manner you are acting.
The first point. You dislike Mage. Okay, flat out, that seems to be the source of all of your problems. You don't like the man. Big deal. Get over it. There will always be times where people you don't like are in power, and you may not want them in power... but you suck it up and deal with it because they won't have power forever. The feeling of dislike is probably mutual at this point, heck, I don't know if Mage ever liked you. Even if he did, the fact that you seem to consider him an idiot probably damaged the hope of him ever liking you. Then again, you probably don't care about that.
I'm not saying Mage is a saint. No, far from it. Mage does seem to exaggerate and be very opinionated at times, but overall, I find Mage to be an enjoyable person to be around, and several other people do as well.
Okay. Onto the accruing of power. Mage has garnered power to himself by acting smartly. He has made diplomatic deals with various people, and has earned a spot on the Player Council. The fact that he holds high weight in the "alliance" is because he has sanely discussed various things with other kages, and he has yet to make the alliance look bad.
The crusade against Lord Raine? Which I hate to bring up because as of recent times, Lord Raine has been very civil, and I don't really like to bring up bad memories, but that was because at the time Lord Raine had made a few comments that made the alliance look bad. The idea there was to dissociate comments from Lord Raine from the alliance as a whole. Which it successfully did, even if it did cause bad blood.
Now... As for your dislike of Mage, why not ignore his posts? Hmm? Or are you afraid that the things you are saying about Mage people will believe about you if you don't point out that Mage is these things? Or maybe you hope that people will believe you if you yell that you're right at the top of your lungs over and over again.
What you don't seem to get is that these little outbursts of yours, Vex, make you out to be the person that you claim Mage is. Mage has done nothing publicly to lose the support of the people who support him, and every single time you post something snarky or hostile to Mage, especially when it isn't provoked, you dig yourself deeper. What little support you had will fade from you if you continue down this path.
Vex, I'm sure at your core you are a decent human being, but the internet is bringing out an ugly side to you because of this little issue that you refuse to get over.
Oh, and one more thing. If you don't like Scarlet or being associated with Mage, you are always free to leave and never associate with him again. Of course, then you'd probably become a true Enemy of Scarlet. Not too many of those around these days.
Disagreeing with two points:
1) There still is an alliance - we work together in order to maximize village populations and gameplay strategies. ... Plus, by you saying "there is no (more) alliance", that only validates what Vex said about corroding us from the inside (which I also consider to be complete BS).
2) Sabotage could potentially benefit others, if enough people could be bothered *coughcough* to get in on Zero's ring (link). Of course, that does kinda require a bit of selflessness in order to help others - see #1.
1) There still is an alliance - we work together in order to maximize village populations and gameplay strategies. ... Plus, by you saying "there is no (more) alliance", that only validates what Vex said about corroding us from the inside (which I also consider to be complete BS).
2) Sabotage could potentially benefit others, if enough people could be bothered *coughcough* to get in on Zero's ring (link). Of course, that does kinda require a bit of selflessness in order to help others - see #1.
LS: Is Uni in it? Is TFF II? Is ScarletP? Etc, etc. Sure, it's a good idea, but most of us -just- don't care. And btw, _I_ wasn't the one to declare the allanace dead. THAT was Cor, to me. Honestly, he's right. Even at BEST organizing the TFF was... intresting, and now, realistically, with Msicu effecitvly quiet, AB, Locke and me barely willing to check this board oh, ever...
There's no one to ORGANIZE anything. Period. You and ZH are trying, but most of us etheir don't hear about it, or in the long run, don't care.
Hades, LS, I know of two kages that explictly kept themselves OUT of the TFF becasue of certain people (no names mentioned ethier way), but in the end, right now, given the game setup, and the amount of talking all the kages do to each other (ie, almost none as a group)
*shrugs* TFF is at this point in deep life support. _IF_ the situation changes and there becomes a vaild way to wage intervillage war, MABYE it'll change.
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There's no one to ORGANIZE anything. Period. You and ZH are trying, but most of us etheir don't hear about it, or in the long run, don't care.
Hades, LS, I know of two kages that explictly kept themselves OUT of the TFF becasue of certain people (no names mentioned ethier way), but in the end, right now, given the game setup, and the amount of talking all the kages do to each other (ie, almost none as a group)
*shrugs* TFF is at this point in deep life support. _IF_ the situation changes and there becomes a vaild way to wage intervillage war, MABYE it'll change.
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I still declare That Village as a TFF member to anyone who asks. The actual amount of TFFers in my village OTOH doesn't even reach double digits.
Personally I always looked at F^3 (not that anyone outside of us uses that term for it, but anyway) as more of a sleeping giant/boogeyman. Something to scare newbie players with and caution other villages into not griefing one of us. But outside of not Invading each other and whatnot, we don't do much with each other besides maybe send an alt or two this way or that. So the TFF Alliance as an active body? It isn't.
Nations isn't up to encourage us to join together.
There isn't another Rainbow Village to melt into brightly-colored puddles. (yet, we can always hope)
Is F^3 dead? No. Apathetically sitting on a couch scratching itself watching House and eating bacon, probably, but not dead.
Personally I always looked at F^3 (not that anyone outside of us uses that term for it, but anyway) as more of a sleeping giant/boogeyman. Something to scare newbie players with and caution other villages into not griefing one of us. But outside of not Invading each other and whatnot, we don't do much with each other besides maybe send an alt or two this way or that. So the TFF Alliance as an active body? It isn't.
Nations isn't up to encourage us to join together.
There isn't another Rainbow Village to melt into brightly-colored puddles. (yet, we can always hope)
Is F^3 dead? No. Apathetically sitting on a couch scratching itself watching House and eating bacon, probably, but not dead.