Naruto One Naruto fic I would like to write

[BlackSun]

I noticed there are several fics giving Naruto some more power in the form of either using other power Kyuubi could have, or being trained by Kyuubi, or having the sharingan or some original bloodline limit, but I never saw one thing: a fic in which not only Naruto doesn't have the Kyuubi, but noone else does either, and having Naruto as the main character.
What I need here is opinions in how Naruto's life and abilities would difer from canon.

Here's what I have so far:
better control
less chakra (I believe he could still have more than the average genin, the same way Sakura has better control, and with better control he would use better what he has)
slightly better taijutsu (he wouldn't be as negleted by the teachers)
no regeneration
normal healing

Questions:
still a prankster?
adopted?
if adopted, orphan again?
level of determination?
still wearing orange?
should still learn Kage Bunshin? how could it be done?

I think it shoud be possible for him to learn (but not as fast) and use (not as much) Kage Bunshin , because the way I see it, he could have some talent to learn more complicated jutsu than most (it IS a jounin level jutsu after all, and just having the chakra to perform it doesn't make it any easier to learn).
Yes, I'm lazy enough to have trouble thinking of some new signature jutsu for him, my only idea would have him learn how to make explosive tags and begin experimenting with them, but someone else had the idea first and is already going to write a fic using it.

Keep in mind I may never get around to writing the fic, because I have somewhat high standards when I look for something to read, and it's unlikely that I would upload soemthing I wouldn't read myself.

 

[Israfel]

Hmm, interesting idea and one that's probably never been done before because generally people want to see Naruto becoming as powerful as possible and the Kyuubi is one of the major things that makes him powerful and so the removal of the Kyuubi would make him more normal which is exactly what most readers don't want because in general people read to get away from the normal and thus want the character they're reading about to be as extraordinary as possible since they, in some small way, usually superimpose themself over that character if they can relate to him or her which is why we care for the characters in a book or movie because the characters aren't just characters, they are reflections of us and they represent everything we want to be and everything we want to do, they are the representation of our greatest dreams and our darkest nightmares, which is why we root for them and are happy when they succeed and sad when they fail. We feel this way because every success of theirs is a success of ours and their every failure is also a faliure of our own, this is essentially the main reason for the birth of the Super!Naruto genre and all its other incarnations in other fandoms.

So if you do intend to write this it must be excellently written or not at all because unless it is of extraordinary caliber most of the normal mass of fanfic readers will not be interested, so good luck with this, you'll need it.

Gah, I'm really overdue for a rant if it's starting to overflow into my normal posts.

 

[GenocideHeart]

I'm fairly sure that Naruto would learn KB just as fast as usual. He's a very fast learner, the only reason why he wasn't top of the class is because not only did teachers ignore him, but he was too busy making pranks.

Also, he usually spams KB with only his own chakra reserves. Remember, he must completely exhaust his own reserves before he starts drawing on Kyuubi's chakra, nless he gets really mad. Jiraiya had to make him use up nearl all his chakra before he taught him how to use Kyuubi's.

So yeah... Naruto just plain has absurd stamina even as a base, and on top of that he's a quick learner. Chakra or no chakra, learning Rasengan in 3 weeks is not a simple thing.

In short... a Kyuubi-less Naruto would be less determined (he wouldn't be an outcast starving for affection), but would also focus much more in actual studying, and probably make Rookie of the Year with ease. After all, he does learn stuff faster and easier than Sasuke.

Regarding regeneration/healing, I'm not sure, honestly. There ARE non-Jinchuuriki who heal unnaturally fast even without external help (see Zaku, who had his shoulders dislocated by Sasuke and yet managed to use both arms against Shino). He certainl couldn't eat a Chidori to the lung and live, though.

 

[BlackSun]

I know the fic would have to be very good, but once I start it, I'm not willing to upload any crap, except here, so you people can help me improve a bit.
Right now I'm thinking mostly about how to rewrite the main events of NP1, as NP2 will diverge a lot. But before, I have to know what will be Naruto's abilities.

By less chakra, I mean less than what he has, but not average genin. Sakura has much better control than any genin, so it wouldn't be surprising if Naruto had either naturally larger reserves, or if they grew faster than anyone's else. If I were to make him Yondaime's son (as I will), it could be something that runs in the family and explain how Yondaime got so powerfull being so young.
I would still limit it at the beginning to something like Kakshi's amount of chakra (this is not DBZ, in Naruto, the most powerfull ninja isn't the one with the most chakra, but the one most skilled in using their resources).

About Kage Bunshin: it is a kinjutsu, so it should have some slight side effect to force Naruto to not trust it so much. Maybe leaving him as drained as Kakashi after overusing the sharingan (or maybe not as much).

At first I thought about having him adopted by someone, maybe an ANBU, and have his dream be just an ANBU like this one adoptive parent, but now I think leaving him completelly orphan is better, as can still have his prankster side to exercise his skill at improvising (if I remember, Iruka said he used to play pranks all the time after his parents death).

Healing/regeneration: those others if fast healing either have it as bloodline(or part of it, like Kimimaru), or as a skill(Kabuto). Also, Kakashi says in mission to Wave country that Kyuubi is healing Naruto's wounds, so, even if there are bloodlines giving fast healings to those who have it, odds are noone from Konoha has one of them, so neither owuld Naruto.

So far, it seems this Naruto would:
be able to learn jutsus, even dificult ones, far easier than most;
have the same amount of chakra as one would expect from most ninjutsu oriented jounin;
more stamina than most, the same way some people are naturally faster than others with the same training;
exercise more his tactical mind, using more planning and less rushing.

Anything else?

One last thing for now: what to do with Kyuubi? I have four ioptions:
1- Yondaime took the risk of sealing it in himself and taking it to hell.
2- another jutsu was used, banishing Kyyubi from their world at the cost of Yondaime's life.
I could make it son only one his descendants can summon Kyuubi back.
3- seal it inside some scroll, still costing Yondaime's life, but the seal would require constantly pouring chakra into it, as it would be consume chakra constantly and degenerate if left unatented for a few hours.
3- same as before, but the seal's decay is slower, taking a few months before breaking on its own.

Which one should I use?

 

[GenocideHeart]

You might want to totally remove ALL Bijuu from the storyline. Otherwise people like Gaara are going to beat the crud out of the cast. With all due respect, without Kyuubi, Naruto would've died against Gaara, better control or not.

Also, DO NOT MAKE CHARACTERS GROW TOO FAST. None of that "Sakura becomes Tsunade MkII in less than 3 years" idiocy. No one can go from untrained uber scrub to kickass ninja in that little time. Kishimoto is basically spitting on people like Jiraiya and Tsunade by making Naruto and Sakura grow so fast.

And lastly: don't be afraid to kill main characters or have unpleasant things happen to them. They're ninja - born in darkness, living in darkness and destined to die in darkness, meant only to stain their hands with blood so that others can avoid doing that themselves. Ninja society has no place for honor, fairness or childish dreams. The sooner the characters face this brutal reality, the better.

 

[Israfel]

Also, he usually spams KB with only his own chakra reserves. Remember, he must completely exhaust his own reserves before he starts drawing on Kyuubi's chakra, nless he gets really mad. Jiraiya had to make him use up nearl all his chakra before he taught him how to use Kyuubi's.

So yeah... Naruto just plain has absurd stamina even as a base, and on top of that he's a quick learner. Chakra or no chakra, learning Rasengan in 3 weeks is not a simple thing.

GH has a point with this and is right, as we've established Naruto would still have massive amounts of chakra and would probably be able to learn very quickly. One thing I wouldn't really want to do though is make him a prankster once again, I'm not saying turn him into a dark Sasuke-wanabe like most uber-Narutos do, but just make him significantly quiter and more learning oriented with a thirst to know everything he can, you could model him a little bit after a young Orochimaru with his thirst to learn and grow stronger. Instead of looking for respect and for everyone to acknowledge him you could have this Naruto looking to make a name for himself and become the most powerful ninja of all time taking his focus away from Konoha a bit (by not being focused trying to become Hokage) and leaves some oppurtunities open for you later on if you want to take it down a bit of a darker route and have Naruto leave the village at some point for one reason or another.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Also, he usually spams KB with only his own chakra reserves. Remember, he must completely exhaust his own reserves before he starts drawing on Kyuubi's chakra, nless he gets really mad. Jiraiya had to make him use up nearl all his chakra before he taught him how to use Kyuubi's.

So yeah... Naruto just plain has absurd stamina even as a base, and on top of that he's a quick learner. Chakra or no chakra, learning Rasengan in 3 weeks is not a simple thing.

GH has a point with this and is right, as we've established Naruto would still have massive amounts of chakra and would probably be able to learn very quickly. One thing I wouldn't really want to do though is make him a prankster once again, I'm not saying turn him into a dark Sasuke-wanabe like most uber-Narutos do, but just make him significantly quiter and more learning oriented with a thirst to know everything he can, you could model him a little bit after a young Orochimaru with his thirst to learn and grow stronger. Instead of looking for respect and for everyone to acknowledge him you could have this Naruto looking to make a name for himself and become the most powerful ninja of all time taking his focus away from Konoha a bit (by not being focused trying to become Hokage) and leaves some oppurtunities open for you later on if you want to take it down a bit of a darker route and have Naruto leave the village at some point for one reason or another.

I would also recommend not having him interested in any of the usual suspects (ie Sakura or Hinata). If this Naruto is that determined to make a name for himself, he might well get along with, say, Tenten.

Or you could just have him be a hit with slightly older ladies, like Inuzuka Hana and Uzuki Yuugao. I haven't seen any fic with Kiba's sis or the ANBU girl who was dating Hayate...

 

[Israfel]

I would also recommend not having him interested in any of the usual suspects (ie Sakura or Hinata). If this Naruto is that determined to make a name for himself, he might well get along with, say, Tenten.

Or you could just have him be a hit with slightly older ladies, like Inuzuka Hana and Uzuki Yuugao.? I haven't seen any fic with Kiba's sis or the ANBU girl who was dating Hayate...

I've seen one or two lemon fics with Hana and I think Uzuki had a chapter in DGoC's ongoing series of Naruto lemons.

In regards to pairing he could always have a love-hate relationship with Anko because she could be attracted to him becasue he reminds her of how Orochimaru used to be but also be repulsed from him for that very same reason, if we're really going to make him somewhat Orochimaru-like.

 

[GenocideHeart]

I would also recommend not having him interested in any of the usual suspects (ie Sakura or Hinata). If this Naruto is that determined to make a name for himself, he might well get along with, say, Tenten.

Or you could just have him be a hit with slightly older ladies, like Inuzuka Hana and Uzuki Yuugao.? I haven't seen any fic with Kiba's sis or the ANBU girl who was dating Hayate...

I've seen one or two lemon fics with Hana and I think Uzuki had a chapter in DGoC's ongoing series of Naruto lemons.

In regards to pairing he could always have a love-hate relationship with Anko because she could be attracted to him becasue he reminds her of how Orochimaru used to be but also be repulsed from him for that very same reason, if we're really going to make him somewhat Orochimaru-like.

Lemons aren't bad, but I'd really like to see a serious Naruto/Hana romance, myself.

 

[Israfel]

I might have seen a one-shot for that once or twice but nothing I rememebr and certainly nothing worth reading, looks like you're on your own as far as that pairing is concerned. Sorry 'bout that.

 

[BlackSun]

You might want to totally remove ALL Bijuu from the storyline. Otherwise people like Gaara are going to beat the crud out of the cast. With all due respect, without Kyuubi, Naruto would've died against Gaara, better control or not.

Sorry, but I think that would be the easy way out. I'm thinking along the lines of setting things up so Sasuke and him cant take Gaara down BEFORE he can change completelly.

Also, DO NOT MAKE CHARACTERS GROW TOO FAST. None of that "Sakura becomes Tsunade MkII in less than 3 years" idiocy. No one can go from untrained uber scrub to kickass ninja in that little time. Kishimoto is basically spitting on people like Jiraiya and Tsunade by making Naruto and Sakura grow so fast.

I hate when they do it too. It's one of the things that make stop reading a fic. So, rest assured, they'll grow as slowly as possible. And work very hard while doing so.

And lastly: don't be afraid to kill main characters or have unpleasant things happen to them. They're ninja - born in darkness, living in darkness and destined to die in darkness, meant only to stain their hands with blood so that others can avoid doing that themselves. Ninja society has no place for honor, fairness or childish dreams. The sooner the characters face this brutal reality, the better.

I know. I don't mind character deaths, as long as they're done right.

? I'm not saying turn him into a dark Sasuke-wanabe like most uber-Narutos do, but just make him significantly quiter and more learning oriented with a thirst to know everything he can, you could model him a little bit after a young Orochimaru with his thirst to learn and grow stronger. Instead of looking for respect and for everyone to acknowledge him you could have this Naruto looking to make a name for himself and become the most powerful ninja of all time taking his focus away from Konoha a bit (by not being focused trying to become Hokage)

I like it. Thanks for the suggestion.

I would also recommend not having him interested in any of the usual suspects (ie Sakura or Hinata). If this Naruto is that determined to make a name for himself, he might well get along with, say, Tenten.

No pairings, if it happens, ok, but my love life sucks worse tahn my writing, and that's saying something, so I don't really think I should go for romance. Sorry.

I still need to know what to do with Kyuubi. Maybe a good object to seal it inside would be a japanese style lantern (it is the god (or demon) of fire, after all).

After all this discussion, I feel already commited to writing this, least it will be a big disapointment to anyonre reading or helping with this thread.

The only title I could think so far is "Demonless". It makes sense with what I know of english, but it has two problems:
1- does it sound stupid?
2- reminds me of the fic "Demoness", by JohnnyG
Any thoughts?

 

[Israfel]

The only title I could think so far is "Demonless". It makes sense with what I know of english, but it has two problems:
1- does it sound stupid?
2- reminds me of the fic "Demoness", by JohnnyG
Any thoughts?

Hmm, just off the top of my head? Well, le'see... I suppose "Stand On Your Own Two Feet" (little bit of an Eva reference, Gendo's one and only piece of advice to Shinji) or "Prankster No More", "Inner Silence Resounding", "To Be Without", "Their's Not To Reason Why" (from the Alfred Lord Tennyson poem "Charge Of The Light Brigade"), "Demons Of Smoke And Mirrors", or "The Beast That Cried 'I' At The Heart Of The World". Meh, so there's just a few I could pull off the top of my head, like'em, don't, whatever.

 

[GenocideHeart]

I really don't recommend leaving Gaara with a Bijuu. Even IF Sasuke and Naruto tried to doubleteam him, Temari could still butt in, and quite frankly, she can shred both of them at that point in time with a single Kamaitachi.

By letting Gaara keep his Bijuu, you're just setting an atrocious plothole up.

If you want something special for Gaara, why not let him use Sasori's Iron Black Sand? It'd make him a dangerous enough enemy without making him completely unbeatable by two upstart Genin.

Or even better, give him completely original jutsu and make him actually MOVE instead of standing around blocking. Hell, I gave half the cast new jutsu in my fic...

 

[BlackSun]

I'm trying to limit the changes to Naruto, and of course the people who change because of him (if any).
What if I had they take some soldier pills? At least one for Naruto, as he would be tired from his figth, another for Sasuke, who could need it, and another one just in case.

Removing the Bijuu is a last option if I really can't find a way for them to beat Gaara.

Hmm, just off the top of my head? Well, le'see... I suppose "Stand On Your Own Two Feet" (little bit of an Eva reference, Gendo's one and only piece of advice to Shinji) or "Prankster No More", "Inner Silence Resounding", "To Be Without", "Their's Not To Reason Why" (from the Alfred Lord Tennyson poem "Charge Of The Light Brigade"), "Demons Of Smoke And Mirrors", or "The Beast That Cried 'I' At The Heart Of The World". Meh, so there's just a few I could pull off the top of my head, like'em, don't, whatever.

I like the first one.

 

[Israfel]

Hmm, glad you like at least one of my titles, I usually take great pride in the titles of my stories and I like to think they're really good but as with the writing itself they come and go with the inspiration and thus I can't just pull them out of thin air very easily.

 

[the DragonBard]

Also, DO NOT MAKE CHARACTERS GROW TOO FAST. None of that "Sakura becomes Tsunade MkII in less than 3 years" idiocy. No one can go from untrained uber scrub to kickass ninja in that little time. Kishimoto is basically spitting on people like Jiraiya and Tsunade by making Naruto and Sakura grow so fast.

Why do you say that it spits on Tsunade and Jirayia? Those two combined aren't yet at even Kakashi's level, unless Naruto lugs out Kyuubi. Sure, they pushed him a bit, but it seemed to be mainly exhaustian that gave him problems.

Not to mention that Sakura is very talented, she just lacked the motivation she got later. With a great teacher, she's able to put that talent to work.

 

[Fatuous One]

Why do you say that it spits on Tsunade and Jirayia? Those two combined aren't yet at even Kakashi's level, unless Naruto lugs out Kyuubi. Sure, they pushed him a bit, but it seemed to be mainly exhaustian that gave him problems.

Haaa...? Are we both reading the same manga? Both Tsunade and Jiraiya combined aren't yet at Kakashi's level? Jiraiya, who is able to make both Itachi (who kicked Kakashi's ass in one move) AND Kisame retreat with one of his techniques, and Tsunade (who is strong enough to kill practically ANYbody with one hit) aren't strong enough combined against Kakashi?

:blink: Whaaa...?

Oh, and Sakura? Guess who she was trained by.

 

[Israfel]

Why do you say that it spits on Tsunade and Jirayia? Those two combined aren't yet at even Kakashi's level, unless Naruto lugs out Kyuubi. Sure, they pushed him a bit, but it seemed to be mainly exhaustian that gave him problems.

Not to mention that Sakura is very talented, she just lacked the motivation she got later. With a great teacher, she's able to put that talent to work.

Wow somebody's really got their facts messed up, lets think about this for a second, Kakashi = Jounin, Jiraiya and Tsunade = Sannin. Jiraiya and Tsunade = kick Orochimaru and Itachi's ass, Kakashi = gets his ass kicked easily by either Orochimanru or Itachi easliy. Lets do the math here folks. And what does Naruto using Kyuubi have to do with Jiraiya and Tsunade's power?

 

[GenocideHeart]

Haaa...? Are we both reading the same manga? Both Tsunade and Jiraiya combined aren't yet at Kakashi's level? Jiraiya, who is able to make both Itachi (who kicked Kakashi's ass in one move) AND Kisame retreat with one of his techniques, and Tsunade (who is strong enough to kill practically ANYbody with one hit) aren't strong enough combined against Kakashi?

Whaaa...?

Oh, and Sakura? Guess who she was trained by.

Yeah, that's sort of a WTF moment.

And my point is that Sakura is already at a ridiculously high level after less than 3 years of training, while it took the Sannin 50+ years to get where they are now.

Same for Sasuke and Naruto, really. When a bunch of bratty kids grows in power faster than the Yondaime, who was regarded as the second greatest shinobi of all times, behind only Sandaime in his prime... well, I'm sorry, but I can't approve.

The amount of progress made by Sakura in particular is retarded. She'd have to train 24/7 for all of the timeskip to get to that point, especially given how her endurance SUCKED pre-timeskip. She had even less endurance than Ino, and now Kishimoto tries to make us think she's a new Tsunade? Please.

I should also add that Tsunade's strength isn't usually chakra enhanced, it's pure brute force. So yeah, Sakura has no business trying to be Tsunade MkII.

 

[GenocideHeart]

On a side note, the only reason why Kakashi is dangerous is his Sharingan. He was in trouble against a simple missing nin like Zabuza, whom any Akatsuki would've trashed. And why? Because of FOG.

Kakashi (like all Sharingan or Byakugan users) relies too much on his eye. I'd like to see how he'd fare if someone ripped it off. My money is on him getting trashed in five seconds. <_<

 

[Mighty Bob]

Why do you say that it spits on Tsunade and Jirayia? Those two combined aren't yet at even Kakashi's level, unless Naruto lugs out Kyuubi. Sure, they pushed him a bit, but it seemed to be mainly exhaustian that gave him problems.

Haaa...? Are we both reading the same manga? Both Tsunade and Jiraiya combined aren't yet at Kakashi's level? Jiraiya, who is able to make both Itachi (who kicked Kakashi's ass in one move) AND Kisame retreat with one of his techniques, and Tsunade (who is strong enough to kill practically ANYbody with one hit) aren't strong enough combined against Kakashi?

:blink: Whaaa...?

Oh, and Sakura? Guess who she was trained by.

He isn't saying that Tsunade and Jiraiya aren't at Kakashi's level yet, he was stating that Naruto and Sakura aren't there yet. Though I can sorta see where you'd get that idea reading that post, the wordings a bit off.

As for Kakashi, what I find sad about his character, is that he was able to graduate at 5, make chuunin at 7 and Jounin at, what 12? But after he got the sharingan eye he got really really lazy about his training and fighting it seems. Makes me wonder if he mighta turned out like Orochimaru or Yondaime (in terms of ability) if he'd kept on using his own talent for growth rather than relying on Obitos eye and/or dwelling on his teams deaths all the time.

<Rant>

Disregarding the fact that I refuse to acknowledge Naruto Part 2 exists (cause it just sucks with teeth) I gotta agree that Post-time Skip Sakura is overskilled for the amount of time she had to train (Exactly how much time could Tsunade have really spared to teach? She is busy being the Hokage after all) and I feel Naruto's underskilled, with apparently only the amount of power he can drag outta the Kyuubi increasing. With how fast he supposedly learns when motivated/presented with a real teacher I'd have thought he'd be more skilled than he returns.

</rant>

Ah well, thats what fanfics're for I guess.

 

[GenocideHeart]

He isn't saying that Tsunade and Jiraiya aren't at Kakashi's level yet, he was stating that Naruto and Sakura aren't there yet. Though I can sorta see where you'd get that idea reading that post, the wordings a bit off.

As for Kakashi, what I find sad about his character, is that he was able to graduate at 5, make chuunin at 7 and Jounin at, what 12? But after he got the sharingan eye he got really really lazy about his training and fighting it seems. Makes me wonder if he mighta turned out like Orochimaru or Yondaime (in terms of ability) if he'd kept on using his own talent for growth rather than relying on Obitos eye and/or dwelling on his teams deaths all the time.

<Rant>

Disregarding the fact that I refuse to acknowledge Naruto Part 2 exists (cause it just sucks with teeth) I gotta agree that Post-time Skip Sakura is overskilled for the amount of time she had to train (Exactly how much time could Tsunade have really spared to teach? She is busy being the Hokage after all) and I feel Naruto's underskilled, with apparently only the amount of power he can drag outta the Kyuubi increasing. With how fast he supposedly learns when motivated/presented with a real teacher I'd have thought he'd be more skilled than he returns.

</rant>

Ah well, thats what fanfics're for I guess.

...'sucks with teeth'...? I love the way you talk/type, man. You can sum things up perfectly in few words... :lol:

 

[Israfel]

...'sucks with teeth'...? I love the way you talk/type, man. You can sum things up perfectly in few words...?

Hehe, yah that's true.

On the Sakura note I stropped watching the series just before the timeskip (I was busy downloading other things) and so I can't really talk about the what happens after since I never saw it, but I'm gonna frickin hate it if they're gonna make Sakura some uber strong Tsunade knockoff, I think what Kishimoto is trying to do is basically show a 'history repeats itself' kinda thing with Team 7 being the new team of Sannin, because if you think about it the two teams are almost exactly alike with the way the teams set up and the team members themselves, I just can't stand the idea of weak little Sakura coming along with Naruto and Sasuke for the ride to Sannin.

 

[GenocideHeart]

...'sucks with teeth'...? I love the way you talk/type, man. You can sum things up perfectly in few words...?

Hehe, yah that's true.

On the Sakura note I stropped watching the series just before the timeskip (I was busy downloading other things) and so I can't really talk about the what happens after since I never saw it, but I'm gonna frickin hate it if they're gonna make Sakura some uber strong Tsunade knockoff, I think what Kishimoto is trying to do is basically show a 'history repeats itself' kinda thing with Team 7 being the new team of Sannin, because if you think about it the two teams are almost exactly alike with the way the teams set up and the team members themselves, I just can't stand the idea of weak little Sakura coming along with Naruto and Sasuke for the ride to Sannin.

Then I suggest you stop watching Naruto, pretend the series was incomplete and never think of it again, or you'll really HATE how it'll fan out.

It's utterly ridiculous that Sakura hits harder than NARUTO. Hell, she hits harder than LEE, who's a goddamn taijutsu SPECIALIST. That's so wrong it isn't funny. Why is Kishimoto making Lee in a jobber? Basically he's suggesting 'hard work doesn't pay, sucking up to your teacher and/or cheating does'.

*spits in contempt*

And at any rate Sakura had no business surviving Sasori. Chiyo or no Chiyo.

 

[Israfel]

Then I suggest you stop watching Naruto, pretend the series was incomplete and never think of it again, or you'll really HATE how it'll fan out.

It's utterly ridiculous that Sakura hits harder than NARUTO. Hell, she hits harder than LEE, who's a goddamn taijutsu SPECIALIST. That's so wrong it isn't funny. Why is Kishimoto making Lee in a jobber? Basically he's suggesting 'hard work doesn't pay, sucking up to your teacher and/or cheating does'.

*spits in contempt*

And at any rate Sakura had no business surviving Sasori. Chiyo or no Chiyo.

Heh, yah that's what I thought you'd say, but really Sakura has no business hitting with basically any strength at all considering she was such a weakling before. Oh and what is a 'jobber' anyway?