Akamatsuverse One tiny idea and one big idea

Moshulel

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#26
Fatuous One said:
Also, who says that Keitaro can't have picked up a girl in America? Granted, that might deter from the story, but it'd be interesting for Keitaro to try to make a long distance relationship work... while also getting closer to the Hinata girls.
THis could be very interesting...

On one hand you have his girlfriend waiting for him in the states, on the other hand you have girls "curios" about him at two steps. And to top all that the promised girl, which he may or may not remember.
 

SMWhat

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#27
If that fic were like a sitcom episode, Kitsune and Naru would end up fighting over Keitaro, nearly destroying their friendship, with Keitaro blissfully oblivious to it all. And then at the end of the episode, Keitaro would say something to the effect of "Ah, allow me to introduce my girlfriend, so-and-so!"

LAUGH TRACK

MORAL, BECAUSE THOSE SITCOMS IN THE 80'S ALWAYS HAD MORALS

ROLL CREDITS

COMING UP NEXT: BOY MEETS WORLD
 

Fatuous One

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#28
Hmm, you know, depending on circumstances, timing would be very important. More then likely, Keitaro doesn't have Japanese citizenship anymore, so even if you worked with the exchange student angle, his visa probably wouldn't last much longer then a year. Love Hina took place over the course of several years, and unless you don't plan on extending it that long...

If that fic were like a sitcom episode, Kitsune and Naru would end up fighting over Keitaro, nearly destroying their friendship, with Keitaro blissfully oblivious to it all. And then at the end of the episode, Keitaro would say something to the effect of "Ah, allow me to introduce my girlfriend, so-and-so!"
^_^ Heh! And the moral is... always ask if your love interest is already involved!
 

SMWhat

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#29
Well, Wikipedia says that some exchange students in University Exchanges stay for an entire education. I know, it's Wikipedia, and Wikipedia isn't "official", but...
 

SimmyC

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#30
Well it is a start. Wikipedia was never intended to be the end all to end all for information. Even if some stupid college students think it is. <_<

Anyways, this story can take on many routes. I'm not sure which one is the best (up to you. :p), but so far, I think they could work in their own right. Having Keitaro not know the language could be quite hilarious. Him staring blankly at Kitsune while she tries to 'tease' him, that would be something I'd like to see. :snigger:

As for Keitaro already having a girlfriend, I could see that happening too. Of course, who this girl would be (OC, crossover gal) would become an issue. But generally speaking, this could potentially add another dynamic to this story idea. And like Fatuous One said, could also be a deterent so you have to be careful here.
 

Fatuous One

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#31
Like I said, it depends on the circumstances. Visas always have a time limit on them, and it's not usually such a vague term like "until they finish their education". More then likely, it's along the lines of 'approximate' time of their education being complete. Well, unless you have a business visa, which extends beyond a student visa. My family has had a number of students come live at our house though a program (not an exchange program, but they do get housed here), so I know a little bit about this (not much, mind you, I was never terribly interested in the details).

EDIT: Oh, and you might have problems in terms of interaction with the residents beyond humor if you have "Zero Keitaro". It may be funny to have those situations, but it'll be a bitch to work out scenes with actual emotional development.
 

Moshulel

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#32
A mediocre understanding of the japanese language could do the job...

His parents are japanese so he must have picked up some of they're language.

Also the first years of his life were in Japan.

Problem: If they moved soon after the promise... where does Kanako come in? She was adopted you know.
 

SimmyC

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#33
Hmm. That's another interesting aspect. Of course, the easiest way to deal with it might be... no Kanako. But of course, I kind of like her. :unsure:
 
#34
SMWhat said:
South Korea
NORTH KOREAN KEITARO.

You know, thinking on the 'Americanized!Keitaro', I would like to see a bad Keitaro. That's not to say badass or anything of the sort, just a Keitaro that, unlike his original kind hearted personality, was actually an asshole. That is, he simply does not give a shit about the residents, his promise, or anything else besides his own welfare. Falling into the wrong crowd in highschool perhaps? Although that completely slaughters his character, meh.
Look up Hawk's "Great Todaisei Keitaro" in the LH previews section.
 

Moshulel

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#35
SimmyC said:
Hmm. That's another interesting aspect. Of course, the easiest way to deal with it might be... no Kanako. But of course, I kind of like her. :unsure:
While i don't really aprove of the Keitaro/Kanako pairings out there... (unless they are well written, if thee story is well written i can go as far as to accept Haruka/Keitaro) seeing her out of the picture wouldn't be so great. Maybe her adoption was one of the reasons they left for the states? *Light Bulb*
 

SimmyC

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#36
Heh. Another way that works too. ^_^ And I'm actually a fan of Keitaro/Kanako. I know they grew up as brother and sister, but again, not related by blood. Of course, that would be for another thread. Now back on topic...
 

Moshulel

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#37
SimmyC said:
Heh. Another way that works too. ^_^ And I'm actually a fan of Keitaro/Kanako. I know they grew up as brother and sister, but again, not related by blood. Of course, that would be for another thread. Now back on topic...
One way the things could work:

Have them having troubles with one of Kanako's parents, who is going to be portrayed in a very bad light. To avoid further complications combined with a opportunity in the states (Maybe a job for one of them? at a famous bakery chain?) they just relocated...
 

EagleCeres

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#38
Moshulel said:
SimmyC said:
Heh. Another way that works too. ^_^ And I'm actually a fan of Keitaro/Kanako. I know they grew up as brother and sister, but again, not related by blood. Of course, that would be for another thread. Now back on topic...
One way the things could work:

Have them having troubles with one of Kanako's parents, who is going to be portrayed in a very bad light. To avoid further complications combined with a opportunity in the states (Maybe a job for one of them? at a famous bakery chain?) they just relocated...
could also try:
- Kanako is the daugther of friends of Kei's parents in america, queue tragic accident leaving the poor girl orphaned and picked up/adopted/raised by the Urashimas

** As for Student Visas they have to be renewed in a yearly basis, considering the student still has grades that support his/her scholastic level (viva le paperwork! <_< ) and the major (career) being studied must be available at the school to be attended, if not then it would be on a Cultural exchange program where the student is visiting the country to learn the heritage, traditions, etc.

If Kei was a transfer, then he'd need to be in either an Ivy League or a pretty famous College/University to have the choice of TouDai (since it's considered like Harvard)
 

Moshulel

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#39
If Kei was a transfer, then he'd need to be in either an Ivy League or a pretty famous College/University to have the choice of TouDai (since it's considered like Harvard)
Question for the ones of you that study in the US:

Do colleges like Harvard and the likes offer scolarships for students with special abilities?
 

EagleCeres

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#40
Moshulel said:
If Kei was a transfer, then he'd need to be in either an Ivy League or a pretty famous College/University to have the choice of TouDai (since it's considered like Harvard)
Question for the ones of you that study in the US:
Do colleges like Harvard and the likes offer scolarships for students with special abilities?
most, if not all, colleges offer scholarships to students due to their 'excellence' in any field (scholastics, sports, art, etc)

special abilities... well depends on what 'normal abillity' would be considered special
if Kei's invulnerability came out to light, would he be under scientific study as a test subject (like Suu seems to test all the time) :lol: :snigger:
 

Moshulel

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#41
If i'm not wrong Keitaro had some skill in the art domain, what if he developed it in the States? This could solve the issue nicely.

(They would most likely use him as a guineea pig in area 51, <_< )

EDIT: Why are we discusing Visa's anyway? Keitaro does have japanese citizenship.
 

EagleCeres

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#42
Moshulel said:
If i'm not wrong Keitaro had some skill in the art domain, what if he developed it in the States? This could solve the issue nicely.

(They would most likely use him as a guineea pig in area 51,á <_<á )
yes, he was great at drawing, so considering his possible skill level...
If he gained enough notoriety in the arts, i'd think he'd be good enough for Julliard
or any other Arts University/College
 

Moshulel

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#43
EagleCeres said:
yes, he was great at drawing, so considering his possible skill level...
If he gained enough notoriety in the arts, i'd think he'd be good enough for Julliard
or any other Arts University/College
Keitaro as an american artist, that will be interesting especially how he interacts with the native artists. :snigger:

Now back to the Kanako issue, having her adopted after the family left could also work, just that the adoption processes will be VERY annoying.
 

Fatuous One

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#44
Look up Hawk's "Great Todaisei Keitaro" in the LH previews section.
Uhm, no. GTK's Keitaro is a perverted hooligan, but he's not a bad guy. While he's an ass when he feels like it, he still has a set of morals, and he'll probably come to genuinely care for the residents. I was talking about a Keitaro without any such redeeming qualities.

EDIT: Why are we discusing Visa's anyway? Keitaro does have japanese citizenship.
Depending on circumstances, he might not. While it's possible to have duel citizenship if you have parents from both countries, if Keitaro's parent's moved to American, they would have had to give up their Japanese citizenship. Keitaro would still have his Japanese citizenship unless he decided to vote (or decided to serve in the Armed Forces), in which case he would have to give it up.

EDIT:

** As for Student Visas they have to be renewed in a yearly basis, considering the student still has grades that support his/her scholastic level (viva le paperwork! <_< ) and the major (career) being studied must be available at the school to be attended, if not then it would be on a Cultural exchange program where the student is visiting the country to learn the heritage, traditions, etc.

If Kei was a transfer, then he'd need to be in either an Ivy League or a pretty famous College/University to have the choice of TouDai (since it's considered like Harvard)
Ah, good to see that someone here knows about such things more extensively then I.
 
#45
Fatuous One said:
(or decided to serve in the Armed Forces)
Actually, I remember reading somewhere that the US military allows non American citizens to serve in it's Armed Forces, but only in a limited capacity. Another author I've seen on FF.net (can't find his fics now for some reason though) utilized that as an explanation as to why Keitaro wound up serving in Iraq with the Marines in his fic (which was pretty damn good).
 

Moshulel

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#46
Fatuous One said:
Depending on circumstances, he might not. While it's possible to have duel citizenship if you have parents from both countries, if Keitaro's parent's moved to American, they would have had to give up their Japanese citizenship. Keitaro would still have his Japanese citizenship unless he decided to vote (or decided to serve in the Armed Forces), in which case he would have to give it up.
His parents are japanese though. He will not be in the military, do you actually see Keitaro there? Besides that he will be at college. The other issue can be solved by tehnicalities, he got 18 in 2001 and 20 in 2003 thus avoiding ellection years and remaining uninterested in voting rights.

Although the apeall of a marriage for citizenship is great, i incline to see him as a japanese citizen.
 

Fatuous One

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#47
Huh? What are you talking about?

Love Hina begins in 1998, and Keitaro is twenty years old at the start. 1997 was when Clinton got re-elected, and Keitaro would have been 19 at that time (that is, allowed to vote). Granted, it's possible that Keitaro didn't decide to vote, but I find that sort of iffy myself.
 

SimmyC

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#48
Huh. I guess that sounds about right (I need to check the mangas again to make sure).

However, election year was 1996, NOT 1997 (1997 is the year that Clinton officially started his second term. But it wasn't the year that he was 're-elected'. That would be November 1996 when we had the elections). Though if you're talking about midterm elections, it would be 1998 (we have elections every two years).

Either way, if F-One's numbers are correct, Keitaro would be old enough to vote. Whether or not he would vote is another question entirely.
 

Moshulel

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#50
Fatuous One said:
Huh? What are you talking about?

Love Hina begins in 1998, and Keitaro is twenty years old at the start. 1997 was when Clinton got re-elected, and Keitaro would have been 19 at that time (that is, allowed to vote). Granted, it's possible that Keitaro didn't decide to vote, but I find that sort of iffy myself.
Even so i find weird that you lose citizenship based on vote...

I know a fair good amount of people with dual citizenship... Granted they only have the right to vote for only one citizenship but that doesn't mean they lose the other citizenship...

Weird but then again this could be another proof of the freedom in the US.

By the way wasn't Keitaro born on January 5, 1979?

By the way if Keitaro is 20 at the start of LH (and we know that for sure) then he was six years old when he did the promise? (Wiki timeline) i recall otherwise....
 
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