Original Fiction Section

zerohour

Well-Known Member
#1
I asked Hawk if we could get an original Fiction Section, and he said no, unless there was support from the many different members of TFF. Please Voice your thoughts and vote!!!
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#2
zerohour said:
I asked Hawk if we could get an original Fiction Section, and he said no, unless there was support from the many different members of TFF. Please Voice your thoughts and vote!!!
Hmmm... it kind of goes against the name of the forum.
 
#3
I've got quite a bit myself, and I even started to put one of them up in the general anime section, since it is sort-of fan-fiction of the harem anime genre... I do have a few others that I'd like critiquing on though.
 
#4
I'm neutral. If Hawk adds an original fiction section, that's great; if he doesn't, no loss.

Though, as alluded to above, it would go against the name of the forum, so whatever...
 

Fatuous One

Well-Known Member
#5
Meh-ness.

I rarely read original fiction that isn't a published work, simply for the fact that all the troubles that come with it (introducing characters, setting up the backstory, etc.) usually is all for naught since I rarely find a good, FINISHED, bit of work. Sometimes, but not often.

So, I probably wouldn't read any if there was a section for it. That's just me though. *shrug*

[Don't care]
 

locke69

Well-Known Member
#6
I have a friend that writes orginal, just because he can write them and write them well. If their good, I'll read them. I just can't write them.

Good luck Zero, you'll need it.
 

Cornuthaum

Well-Known Member
#7
I am in favour of this.

We have several boards here that see barely, if any, use, and yet they're allowed to stay. ("Book Fanfiction", "Comic Fanfiction", "Full Metal Panic Fanfiction", "Super Robot Taisen Fanfiction", "Bleach Lemon Fanfiction").

Original Fiction is fiction still, and, to be honest, it takes a whole lot more to write Original Fiction than to write fanfiction of any anime/manga/omgtentacles hentai fanfiction.

Why? Because one doesn't have the basics and the framework laid out before him/her/it, and thus must work hard(er) to achieve this.

Original fanfiction is, to be honest, a great way to relieve one's mind of stress and to flex the brain muscles... and, to be honest, to get rid of Writer's Block, since, for once, you don't have to worry about staying in character, since the characters are your own.

As it is also a good test to see how OCs would play out (since one can flesh out the OC without the constraints of canon, and then see what fitting him into canon would result in - destruction of the OC because he doesn't fit into the canon world or a workable structure.)

Many words say just one thing: I am all for it.
 
#8
*points to sig*

and it has an original fiction section and guess what... people use it and don't care that the name of the forum implies it is about fanfiction.

I say go for it as peopel write it and people will read it and it is all worth it.

if it don't work out then you can get rid of it so no harm in trying it out and seeing how it goes.
 

SotF

Well-Known Member
#9
If one is made, it probably ought to be permission only, the request for permission ought to be more about stating that you won't steal stories for those who may want to eventually publish their work while letting people critique it here for improvements.

I'd love having one here anyway
 

A_T_Sigma

Well-Known Member
#10
SotF said:
If one is made, it probably ought to be permission only, the request for permission ought to be more about stating that you won't steal stories for those who may want to eventually publish their work while letting people critique it here for improvements.

I'd love having one here anyway
^_^ I agree, it would be kind of neat i think.

Though I stray away from reading Original fiction for the sole reason if by chance I ever found another's story interesting or mildly similar to the stories I have in mind to do; I wouldn't have the need to be 'influenced' by their ideas.

Weird I know, but I like to believe that I am capable of coming up with very original story concepts, never thought of before without needing to feel like I am 'copying' someone else's work (as i hate plagurism) or feeling inclined to 'rewrite' my entire story over because its too similar to someone else's Original storyline.

Another reason why I don't bother to post anything I have (given I ever DO get around to actually writing the plot) because there are always people who have nothing better to do than 'steal' another's idea and I feel that's even worse than taking someone's FANfic and trying to call it their own when it isn't.

With Original Fiction writing, all thoughts/ideas and what not are yours and not based on a fanfic about something that's already been done.

Well in any case, I say sure why not have an Original fiction section if it makes you happy Zerohour-san.
 

Kayeich

Well-Known Member
#11
Wouldn't use it, but I wouldn't be bothered by it either. I'd probably peek in there every now and then, if it came about I think, but for the most part, I imagine I'd ignore it.
 

Left Shoe

Well-Known Member
#12
It really couldn't hurt. Anyway, you know, the more = the merrier.

And for people who were saying an Original Fiction section "goes against" the FanFiction Forum, that's only a surfacial argument. After all, there's no reason not to build a new wing on a hospital, so why not try this?
 

tungsten

Well-Known Member
#13
Left Shoe said:
It really couldn't hurt. Anyway, you know, the more = the merrier.

And for people who were saying an Original Fiction section "goes against" the FanFiction Forum, that's only a surfacial argument. After all, there's no reason not to build a new wing on a hospital, so why not try this?
TO extend your analogy, It's sort of like buildig a vetinary wing onto a hospital. No reason why it couldn't work, I guess, but there has to be a reason no one does it.

To continue: Hawk said no originally. I haven't got the faintest idea what gos into maintaining a site like this, but if he said no, there has to be a reason. An increase in effort perhaps.

The whole reason I read fanfiction is to read about the charcters and settings i like, with new stories. If I want more characters or settings, I generally try to find some more published fiction. It's published for a reason, that is: people who have money riding on their decision decided it was good enough to try and publish to make more money. Anything I read online doesn;t have that same seal of approval. Reading fiction in a universe I already know and am comfortable with, reduces (but doesn't eliminate) the chances that I'll end up wishing I hadn't read (and it has happened before)

I'm rather cynical about this I suppose. I think haveing an original fiction section that was available only to those who request it would be a good idea, but only if Hawk and anyone else involved in the project are willng to expend the extra effort to do so.

For it's own sake, I somewhat doubt a large percentage of the population of TFF are fantastically interested in original fiction (an opinion formed mostly from reading the posts above this one)
 

zerohour

Well-Known Member
#14
tungsten said:
The whole reason I read fanfiction is to read about the charcters and settings i like, with new stories. If I want more characters or settings, I generally try to find some more published fiction. It's published for a reason, that is: people who have money riding on their decision decided it was good enough to try and publish to make more money. Anything I read online doesn;t have that same seal of approval. Reading fiction in a universe I already know and am comfortable with, reduces (but doesn't eliminate) the chances that I'll end up wishing I hadn't read (and it has happened before)
I don't think that being published is a requirement for being good, the Firestaff series by Fel is a prime example.

TFF has been referred to as one big beta, and every author needs one. The original stuff submitted here might not be up to snuff, but it will get there eventually, and who knows? Maybe the stuff posted here could be published works someday.
 

Ura Mamoru

Well-Known Member
#15
Meh, I don't mind either way. If it is made, I might pop in now and then, but otherwise you wouldn't see much of me in there.

In the end though, it IS Hawk's call though...
 

Hawk

Well-Known Member
#16
Opening up a new sub-forum takes about two minutes, so there's no real work involved in it and that has nothing to do with me being against original fiction at TFF.

I made a choice against having original fiction at TFF before I even got this account here at invisionfree, as I wanted the focus to be on fanfiction as opposed to all kinds of fiction.

There are sites out there specialized in original stuff and posting there, would likely be a far greater benefit for a writer in need of somebody else checking out their stuff before a public unveiling, then using TFF for that would be.

But I am a benevolent dictator, so if there's an overwhelming demand for it, I guess I could spend the 2-3 minutes of work it'd take for me to include a section for original fiction.

There'll be a new poll about it, however, as the current one is next to useless. One negative, one neutral and five positive options? Hah!
 
#17
But it'd be hard to find a place with a populace of size that we could readily identify people while still have a wide variety of people to snipe our faults and encourage continuation.

This place is a writing community I've grown very used to, and I doubt I'd be able to manage joining another with such acceptance. That and I doubt I could find anywhere else with such insane and deviant personages as myself. It's the opinion of the people here that I've grown to trust.
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#18
While I agree with many of Cornuthaum's statements, I disagree on having an original fiction section here on this forum.

That is not due to any prejudice against those who write it, as I read a small amount of on-line original fiction myself.

Nor would I be a flamer were such a section made.

However, forums are made for specific uses and cater to specific forum goers. The reasons for why fan fiction is written are not really the same reasons one would write a original fiction story. The familiar backdrops are not there, even in extreme AU's in fan fiction, one at least has a canon source as a standard to start from for judgements, rules, inconsistencies, etc...

A original fiction author of say mysteries, or forensics, whould be doing themselves a disservice to rely on only a forum of fan fiction stories for reader input and story ideas. That is not to state we are an unimaginitive bunch, but we would not be the best source for input on tons of concepts that such a story would touch on. Drugs, weapons, forensic research, etc... etc...

There are other forums out there for such.

Same for other areas.
 

Mereo Flere

Well-Known Member
#19
As much as I would enjoy an original fiction section, I would not post anything I ever seriously considered publishing. While this community is pretty good, there are at least three risks that would go along with publishing it on a forum.

First, there's the possibility that your work could be stolen. Think copying someone else's fanfiction is bad? It gets even worse when it comes to original fiction.

Second, I wouldn't be comfortable with the possibility that someone could later trace a publication back to my fanfiction identity. It could be done anyway, but at least a little work would be involved.

Finally, if an author got caught up in a legal issue over something posted here and published later, this site would be caught up in it as well.

Now, I would probably post some things in there myself, but nothing more than I would post on fictionpress. Professional work I would make sure to keep off the board.
 

Takerial

Well-Known Member
#21
I vote yes because of the fact that this is a fanfiction community. And like all fanfiction community there are those who want to try their hand at writing original fiction.

Why not just go to another site? Well the fact that no two communites are the same says that even if you go to a different site, you won't always have the people you are accustomed to there. So if you understand the people here and like this community then you are more likely to want to post within this community instead of trying to find another one.

Yes there are the risks involved in posting original fiction, but that is left up to the writer to decide. Basically you just need to make sure what you post isn't something you care too much is stolen, or the people can't really steal it.
 
#22
I for one am not greedy about money. I would enjoy having the amount I would glean from a successful professional work, but I could do without it as well. If I posted something here, such as my harem anime idea that I already have, and someone took it and actually used it to make an anime... all I would do is e-mail the company, figure out who took my idea, or 'came up with it' rather, and tell them that I don't much like them for stealing, but if they would please try to keep true to my idea and send me a box set, I would be grateful. Since it'd probably be a Japanese company we're talking about, and the person who stole my idea the same, with their natural sense of honor, they probably would, especially since it costs them next to squat. And making an anime isn't copypasta, it's taking what I did and taking it farther, which I can respect them for.

As far as plagarism on the american front goes... I don't even have anything that a publishing company would consider, and probably never will. Hell, I have several original characters from original or psuedo-original(such as my version of Hell) worlds that I ended up crossing over with known series. So they won't be making an appearance for sure.
 

toraneko

Well-Known Member
#23
Question: Wouldn't it be okay to simply post originals in the General Fanfiction forum?

I can sort-of support the acceptance of original fiction, and (to my knowledge anyway) there doesn't seem to be a rule against its being posted here.

I've been a member of the FFML since forever, although I rarely bother with it anymore. The going rules since ever were that the FFML existed for fanfiction of anime, manga, and (to an extent) video games. However, original fiction was permitted, provided that its tone or execution was clearly (or at least stated to be) inspired by anime/manga. There were some exceptionally good examples of this; original takes on the Magical Girl genre, for example.

In this forum, though, I don't particularly see any reason to have a whole section devoted to it. Maybe a sub-section of the General Fanfiction forum, but that's about it. Not enough demand to warrant it, I think.
 
#24
That's a good point Toraneko. I'm already doing it over in anime/manga, so... yeah. But it would be a good idea to add a section to general for it, since it doesn't have the typical three sections where two of which are where you post your stuff.
 
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