Bleach Other Soul Societies

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#76
MWkillkenny84 said:
All OK... only for a little piece: Italian Soul Society.
It doesn't exist: too fragmented and too campanilismo in the very heart of their Angeli della Morte (Death's Angels, the Shinigamis' equivalents) and also Abomini (Abominations, the Hollows' equivalents): they fight themselves all the time, they ally with the Abomini borns in they same regions (only for restart to fight them at the end of the crisis). The only times when the Italian Soul Society act in totally accord?
When their territory is under attack from another Soul Society/Hollow-like Group.
Heck, in this case the Abomini help the Angeli della Morte (nationalism permanent in life and in death ndKK)!!!
For the hierarchy... another time, sorry!
Sadly, this just might be accurate if Italian Soul Society is anything like our current government...

Of course, it could also be like Dante's Divine Comedy. :p
 

MWkillkenny84

Well-Known Member
#77
GenocideHeart said:
Sadly, this just might be accurate if Italian Soul Society is anything like our current government...

Of course, it could also be like Dante's Divine Comedy. :p
Rant in Italian only for you...
Perche` pensi che l'abbia immaginata cosi`?
Il campanilismo e` una piaga quasi eterna, in Italia.
Ci sono localita` che si... odiano e` una parola grossa. Diciamo che si disprezzano a vicenda e che sono lontane solo pochi chilometri.
In Liguria ci sono ancora Genovesi che guardano male i Savonesi e viceversa, se dici Venezia in certe parti del Trentino ti sputano addosso e cosi` via...
Una Soul Society qua in Italia sarebbe contaminata dal periodo pre-Risorgimentale (ovvero, inframezzata in mini-staterelli e con ancora un'area Vaticana enorme) al meglio, ed al peggio non voglio neppure pensarci.

If the English users want a translation, they can use the online translators.
 

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#78
MWkillkenny84 said:
GenocideHeart said:
Sadly, this just might be accurate if Italian Soul Society is anything like our current government...

Of course, it could also be like Dante's Divine Comedy. :p
Rant in Italian only for you...
Perche` pensi che l'abbia immaginata cosi`?
Il campanilismo e` una piaga quasi eterna, in Italia.
Ci sono localita` che si... odiano e` una parola grossa. Diciamo che si disprezzano a vicenda e che sono lontane solo pochi chilometri.
In Liguria ci sono ancora Genovesi che guardano male i Savonesi e viceversa, se dici Venezia in certe parti del Trentino ti sputano addosso e cosi` via...
Una Soul Society qua in Italia sarebbe contaminata dal periodo pre-Risorgimentale (ovvero, inframezzata in mini-staterelli e con ancora un'area Vaticana enorme) al meglio, ed al peggio non voglio neppure pensarci.

If the English users want a translation, they can use the online translators.
Nice to see another Italian here, heh. Responding in tone:

Sarebbe peggio se le rivalitÓ sportive si intrufolassero in una Soul Society italiana. Abitanti di Milano si odiano letteralmente tra Milanisti e Interisti - ricordi il motorino scaraventato dagli spalti del Meazza sulle teste dei tifosi avversari, gli ululati razzisti a Balotelli e Seedorf e altre amenitÓ del genere...?
Tutto sommato e' meglio se una Soul Society italiana prende esempio dal Rinascimento... se fosse influenzata dalla "cultura" italiana moderna, e uso la parola "cultura" con riluttanza, immagina che macello.
 

Prince Charon

Well-Known Member
#79
GenocideHeart said:
MWkillkenny84 said:
GenocideHeart said:
Sadly, this just might be accurate if Italian Soul Society is anything like our current government...

Of course, it could also be like Dante's Divine Comedy. :p
Rant in Italian only for you...
Perche` pensi che l'abbia immaginata cosi`?
Il campanilismo e` una piaga quasi eterna, in Italia.
Ci sono localita` che si... odiano e` una parola grossa. Diciamo che si disprezzano a vicenda e che sono lontane solo pochi chilometri.
In Liguria ci sono ancora Genovesi che guardano male i Savonesi e viceversa, se dici Venezia in certe parti del Trentino ti sputano addosso e cosi` via...
Una Soul Society qua in Italia sarebbe contaminata dal periodo pre-Risorgimentale (ovvero, inframezzata in mini-staterelli e con ancora un'area Vaticana enorme) al meglio, ed al peggio non voglio neppure pensarci.

If the English users want a translation, they can use the online translators.
Nice to see another Italian here, heh. Responding in tone:

Sarebbe peggio se le rivalitÓ sportive si intrufolassero in una Soul Society italiana. Abitanti di Milano si odiano letteralmente tra Milanisti e Interisti - ricordi il motorino scaraventato dagli spalti del Meazza sulle teste dei tifosi avversari, gli ululati razzisti a Balotelli e Seedorf e altre amenitÓ del genere...?
Tutto sommato e' meglio se una Soul Society italiana prende esempio dal Rinascimento... se fosse influenzata dalla "cultura" italiana moderna, e uso la parola "cultura" con riluttanza, immagina che macello.
Right, for those to lazy to find a good translator, here's what Babelfish had to say, as that was the best I could find:

MWkillkenny84: Because `tasks that l' it has imagined thus `? The parochialism and `a nearly eternal plague, in Italy. There are locality `thatà they are hated and `a large word. We say that they are not deigned mutually and that little kilometers are far only. In Liguria there are still Genovesi that watches the Savonesi badly and viceversa, if you say Venice in sure parts of the Trentino spit to you I lean thus and `viaà A Soul Society in Italy would be contaminated here from the pre-Risorgimentale period (that is, inframezzata in miniums-staterelli and with anchor un' area enormous Vatican) at best, and to worse I do not want not to think to us.

GenocideHeart: It would be worse if the sport rivalries intrufolassero in a Soul Italian Society. Inhabitants of Milan literally hate between Milanisti and Interisti - memories the small engine scaraventato from the spalti of the Meazza on the witness of the opposing tifosi, gtli racist howls to Balotelli and Seedorf and other amenities of the sortà? All adding e' better if a Soul Italian Society takes example from the Rinascimentoà if it were influenced from the " cultura" modern Italian, and use the word " cultura" with reluctance, slaughter house imagines that.

'Cultura' almost certainly means 'culture', and a 'Milanisti' must be either a resident of Milan, or just a fan of their teams, but my minimal Italian vocabulary is stumped on much of the rest.

Still, I get the idea that Italian Soul 'Society' is in a near-constant state of uncivil war.

Another possible option, though, is that in death, the Roman Empire, or even the Republic, still lives. Not sure how plausible that is, though.
 

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#80
lol Babelfish.

For the record, Milanisti are supporters of AC Milan, while Interisti are supporters of FC Internazionale Calcio.

The Roman Empire still existing as SS's foundation would actually be pretty bad. They weren't really much for getting along with 'uncivilized people' (ie, everyone not Roman), even though they scavenged every scrap of uses and costumes worth scavenging that other civilizations had to offer.

In short, conquer 'em, take what their civilization has to offer that's worth it and trash the rest. And 'educate' the 'barbarians' in the 'great uses' of the Roman Empire. Whether they want to be educated or not.

Such a Soul Society would try to achieve total control over the mortal world - and other SS - just on general principle. Very bad juju.
 

MWkillkenny84

Well-Known Member
#81
THAT type of Soul Society was probably extincted by other Soul Society in the past, when their 'Roman Empire-view' has been started to expand their territory in 'their rightful vital space' (Hitler docet :lonegunman: :lonegunman: :lonegunman: ). No, the italian pre-Risorgimental political situation is the most likely type of situation for the Italian Soul Society: ironically, the Garibaldi's time period is the most important and most unite political period of the Italy.
For the Americas... pre-colombian style.
Russian... they are in the Union of Socialist Sovietic Republic.
For this motive: the more a mortal situation impact with the souls, the more the Soul Society's aspect is influenced and remodeled.
 
#82
I would argue that the early to 2nd Punic War era Roman Republic could be a good basis for an Italian Soul Society.

Insular, concerned with Italy alone as a zone of influence they don't want anyone messing with (and with the possible distances between Soul Societies, who would come to mess around in Italy?), fairly open society for the time with some social movement from bottom to upper classes and open citizenship (more then anyone else at the time), reliance on a fairly set code of Laws and Mos Maiorum that are mostly sane (mostly), the people actually have a say in the government (when they bother themselves with it), the aristocrats in control are pragmatic enough to know that mustache twirling evil and schemes are bad for everyone involved and when to give some ground to the masses to favor public peace and unity, good engineers with a talent for civil infrastructure on a massive scale, disciplined armies that value both teamwork and personal valor.

Give them the Hollows as a threat and it might actually stay united instead of splintering in a hundred different clans and peoples all vying for control. They can't very well subdue the Hollows, so defense is all they can do.

A Roman Republic based Soul Society would be a darn better place to live in then the Japanese one, I would think, for the average soul at least.

As for the Imperatores... Well, I would think it would be harder to push for conquest, domination and glory when Lucius Brutus is looking at you like he looked at Tarquinius and resting his hand on his dagger/gladius/zanpaktou, and the conservatives of the Senate around Fabius Pictor and a few others, warned by their descendants killed in the purges of the Civil Wars, took precautions to never allow such madness again long before Caesar arrived in the Afterlife.

Now the Roman Empire, I wouldn't want to live in. Roman Republic wouldn't be too bad as long as the right ideas would be allowed to flourish instead of hellenic/persian monarchism and despotism.
 
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