Pre-Heresy Word Bearers in Stargate

[Prince Charon]

Before the Horus Heresy, and in fact, before the GEoM told them to stop trying to convert everyone to Emperor-worship, the Word Bearers and their whole fleet fall through a rift in the Warp, which leads them to the Stargate-verse (where there is no Warp) in a universe where Ra took both 'Gates with him when he left Earth. Fortunately, they end up in a star system with a Stargate. While the AdMech are examining the 'Ring of the Gods', a group of Jaffa, lead by a minor Goa'uld come through...

"DEATH TO THE FALSE GODS!"

So, how big a mess can they make, when they'll have to steal ships just to have FTL?

Would this be worth reading?

Anyone feel like writing it?

 

[sworded]

Well they'll steamroll over the Jafa.

They should still have their Librarians to psychicly interigate the xeno infested humans to learn how to work the stargate and give them enough info to learn likely locations to aquire a ship with a hyperdrive. After the cog boys work out how to modify the fleet's drives the Word Bearers will go onto smash and/or convert everything in the Galaxy until they encounter the Asgard which will be interesting, in the Chinese sense of the word.

If they get a chance to absorb an Ancient Repository then there will be piss all chance to stop them cause Logar as a Primarch should be able to absorb it without problem.

The idea has potential; I know of a couple of fics on FFnet that drop some space marines into the SG universe, but I don't think they drop a whole fleet of hundreads+ WH40K capitol ships with a Primarch onboard into the place.

 

[elric]

Space Marines Fall. Everybody dies.

 

[Prince Charon]

Space Marines Fall. Everybody dies.

That's one way of putting it.

If I felt like really being a dick, I'd have them <s>curbstomp</s>meet the nBSG Colonials.

 

[Oni_kawaii]

Word Bearers are intresting, what about one of the two lost/unknown Primarchs?

 

[sworded]

Word Bearers are intresting, what about one of the two lost/unknown Primarchs?

Please no. The unknowns are well completely unknown so everything about them would be author created; names, fighting style, philosophy, force levels, ect.

 

[Prince Charon]

Word Bearers are intresting, what about one of the two lost/unknown Primarchs?

Please no. The unknowns are well completely unknown so everything about them would be author created; names, fighting style, philosophy, force levels, ect.

Well, it could be combined with this idea.

 

[biigoh]

Personally, given how much of a stomp the Imperials would be... and let's be honest, WH40K tends to deliver on the stomp, especially when it's an entire FRIKKING fleet of them... I would suspect that there wouldn't be much of a story beyond they came, they saw, them stomped.

No... a more interesting story might have... Tau in the Stargate setting. For the Greater Good!

 

[Prince Charon]

A variant of this idea: they don't arrive in the Milky Way, they arrive in the Ori galaxy.

Alternatively, instead of the Word Bearers, the Thousand Sons arrive in the Ori Galaxy. Magnus the Red, a loyal son of the Emperor, recognizes the Ori for what they are, and vows to free the galaxy from their tyranny.

Optionally, the Warp does exist, but its a very different Warp, and its where the Ascended beings live.

 

[Oni_kawaii]

Leman Russ and his retinue perhaps.

We always have Da orks

The Emperor as Sylvester Siler

 

[Mercsenary]

Leman Russ and his retinue perhaps.

We always have Da orks

The Emperor as Sylvester Siler

"What? What are you guys doing here?! This was supposed to be a VACATION! Get away from the blood and death!"

 

[Ordo]

Leman Russ and his retinue perhaps.

Leman would leave little more than rubble in his wake. You do not send Leman Russ on any mission that might require diplomacy or a delicate touch. You send him to kill something, when you want that things agonizing death to serve as a warning to the rest.

Magnus, (Pre-Heresy) is not as blood thirsty as some of his brothers, and would be more than happy to study/preserve the wisdom/knowledge of the ancients, while removing the threat of the Ori or the Goa'uld.

In a way, having Magnus transported to the world of Stargate could serve as a 'Take the Third option' for him and his Legion. After his failed warning to the Emperor, Magnus transports all of Prospero (except those who wish to leave) and his sons to another reality. This leaves the Space Wolves intact to fight Horus and his heretics.

Without the influence of the Warp, flesh change becomes less of a problem for the Legion. However now they have to relearn to use their psyker gifts. Once Magnus learns of the Ancients he begins studying their technology in hopes that it will one day allow him to return home with a way to repair the great work his actions undid, and find redemption in his father's eyes.

However this quest for wisdom and knowledge leads him into direct conflict with the Goa'uld and specifically Anubis. The Sons take the stance of Astartes first, Psyker second, but they have no way to resupply so they become very stingy with their ammunition, at least at first.

 

[sworded]

Leman Russ and his retinue perhaps.

Leman would leave little more than rubble in his wake. You do not send Leman Russ on any mission that might require diplomacy or a delicate touch. You send him to kill something, when you want that things agonizing death to serve as a warning to the rest.

Magnus, (Pre-Heresy) is not as blood thirsty as some of his brothers, and would be more than happy to study/preserve the wisdom/knowledge of the ancients, while removing the threat of the Ori or the Goa'uld.

In a way, having Magnus transported to the world of Stargate could serve as a 'Take the Third option' for him and his Legion. After his failed warning to the Emperor, Magnus transports all of Prospero (except those who wish to leave) and his sons to another reality. This leaves the Space Wolves intact to fight Horus and his heretics.

Without the influence of the Warp, flesh change becomes less of a problem for the Legion. However now they have to relearn to use their psyker gifts. Once Magnus learns of the Ancients he begins studying their technology in hopes that it will one day allow him to return home with a way to repair the great work his actions undid, and find redemption in his father's eyes.

However this quest for wisdom and knowledge leads him into direct conflict with the Goa'uld and specifically Anubis. The Sons take the stance of Astartes first, Psyker second, but they have no way to resupply so they become very stingy with their ammunition, at least at first.

If they transported the whole planet of Prospero they should have more than enough factories to provide support for the ground forces. The fleet will have greater difficulties but it's certinally not impossible to build up the orbital facilities needed to support it.

Once Magnus makes contact with the Ancients they may even get a lot of support from certain factions like Omah in information needed to take thrive in that dimension.

And I repeat if Magnus comes across an Ancient repository he would be able to handle all the information residing within which would make his legions nearly unstopable once he integrates the tech with their current capabillities.

 

[Ordo]

If they transported the whole planet of Prospero they should have more than enough factories to provide support for the ground forces. The fleet will have greater difficulties but it's certinally not impossible to build up the orbital facilities needed to support it.

Actaully Prospero doesn't have a lot of independant resoruces to draw upon. They could resupply some items themselves, but without careful managment they are going to run out of the things they require to wage war.

The good news is that the legion, at the time of translation, is fully armed, and stocked with provisions to wage wars of compliance. They'd visited a forge world for resupply before the Conclave of Nikea and had yet to take part in any major conflicts afterwards. So they should be able to last for some time, especially if they can learn to weild their psyker gifts without fear of flesh change.

 

[nick012000]

I'll point out that basically every ship in 40k has internal factories capable of manufacturing spare parts and ammunition. Running out of ammo for their bolters isn't really a problem.

 

[Ordo]

I'll point out that basically every ship in 40k has internal factories capable of manufacturing spare parts and ammunition. Running out of ammo for their bolters isn't really a problem.

I'll admit, I've seen no evidance of that in the Horus Heresy or any other 40K book I've read. If they did have such factories on board, they wouldn't need to resupply from Mechanus forge worlds.

However even if it is true, they still need raw material to produce their ammunition. Prospero dosen't have the resources, and they don't have a workforce trained to mine material, or even build the facilities necassary to process it into a useable form. Then there's the issue of finding the material they need in an unknown universe.

 

[Oni_kawaii]

Conscript the natives of some of the planets they liberate.

The Tokra want to know who this guy knocking off system lords is.

The Asguard want to know who just conquered one of the protected planets.

The SGC wants to know if this is a potential ally or a new threat.

The System lords want Magnus Dead.

The ascended want an ocean of tequila to deal with this headache.

Jack wants to know where he can get some of that nifty power armor.



So with the Space wolves free to fight Horus would the Emperor still be kicking?
would change the Imperium greatly if the Emperor is stll able to give orders.

 

[Prince Charon]

So with the Space wolves free to fight Horus would the Emperor still be kicking?
would change the Imperium greatly if the Emperor is stll able to give orders.

Oh, yes, very much so.

 

[andaandyckas]

So with the Space wolves free to fight Horus would the Emperor still be kicking?
would change the Imperium greatly if the Emperor is stll able to give orders.

Oh, yes, very much so.

And there will be no need to sacrifice lots of Psykers to keep him alive.

THE EMPEROR PROTECT!!!!!!!!!!! :flameon: :flameon: :flameon:

 

[sworded]

More importantly with an active Emperor around the cog boys probably wouldn't come up with the whole concept of 'Tech Heresy' and science would contiue to develop and advance. That would make the whole IoM orders of magnitude better off if they could actually contiue to produce and improve on man's most advance tech. And the oppratunity to avoid the vast relegious purges shouldn't be discounted.

 

[voidseeker]

More importantly with an active Emperor around the cog boys probably wouldn't come up with the whole concept of 'Tech Heresy' and science would contiue to develop and advance. That would make the whole IoM orders of magnitude better off if they could actually contiue to produce and improve on man's most advance tech. And the oppratunity to avoid the vast relegious purges shouldn't be discounted.

That and the whole 'chaos gods fearing the emperor' thing

 

[elric]

Plus he could master the Webway easily in 10,000 years. At that point, only the Tyranids have even a chance of beating the IOM.

 

[Ordo]

Plus he could master the Webway easily in 10,000 years. At that point, only the Tyranids have even a chance of beating the IOM.

Wouldn't go that far. Don't forget the Necrons are still around, and the sheer number of Orcs would make them a contiuing threat. With the Emperor alive, and his loyal sons at his side, the universe will have a little more hope, but it's still grimdark.

Interestingly, with Magnus checking out early and leaving the Wolves intact I have to wonder how the Cabal would react. Magnus absence changes their prediction, would they still try to convince Alpharius and Omegron to join Horus, or would they instead warn him of the approching threat and encourage him to work for the Emperor.

I mean if Alpharius joins Horus and screws him over from the inside, then the entire Heresy is going to fall apart pretty dang quick. Heck, with Alpharius on the Emperor's side and in the know, the drop site massacre might turn into a fighting retreat. Can you imagine how screwed Horus would be if the Raven Guard, the and the Salamanders escaped that debacle with the majority of their forces in tact. I still think Ferrus Manus would die since he engaged Fulgrim in single combat, but his legion would surive him.

Hmmm, Horus arrives at earth to find it defended by three extra legions (Iron Hands, Salamanders, and the Raven Guard) while the Alpha legion cuts his supply line and wrecks unholy havoc on his flank. In desperation he drops his shield hoping to slay the Emperor before things go serioulsy wrong. Only, due to the oddity of dimensionl travel, a purified Magnus arrives packing the knowledge of the Ancients and a desire to redeem himself in his fathers eyes. Together Magnus and Sanguinius tear into the arch traitor, sparring the Emperor the horror of killing his own son.

After the battle of Terra Magnus makes it his personal mission to bring *all* his fallen brothers to justice, starting with Lorgar.

 

[elric]

Yes, but the IOM will have several thousand years to get ready for the Necrons, and most of them are asleep. Once the Emperor becomes aware of them, he just has his forces find and destroy every Tomb World in the galaxy.
The Orks would not be enough of a threat. Orks have numbers, but compared to the overwhelming logistical advantage the Webway would give, it's just not enough. Any Ork incursion would be met with overwhelming force nearly instantly, to say nothing of whatever broken technology the IOM has by then.

 

[Ordo]

All right letÆs assume things go as well as you suggest. Will the IOM, wipe out all other alien life, or is the Emperor inclined to let some of them live (Eldar, Tau) as long as they realize that humanityÆs in charge?