Harry Potter Questions of canon events...

lord geryon

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#1
This thread is for me, and others, to ask questions of those who have the books at hand.

1) When Harry left the Dursley's in the beginning of Book 3, what exactly happened to make him take off? He took his trunk with him, I think.
 

jaredstar

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#2
as i recall Vernon's sister Marge came for a week long visit. prior to her arrival Harry and Vernon made a deal that if Harry could go the week with out pissing off Marge then he would sign Harry's permission slip.


things went well until the last night when Marge went into a rant on how bad Harry's parents were comparing them to dogs. this of course pissed harry off enough that that in a fit of accidental magic he caused her to expand and float.




after harry calmed down he remembered that magic being preformed at the Dursleys had gotten him a warning with the threat of having his wand snapped after a second offense. This is what caused him to run


sorry, i've never been good at short explanations
 

lord geryon

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#3
Oh, right. Duh. Hrmm.

*changes canon to suit him* ^_^
 

endev8003

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#4
after harry calmed down he remembered that magic being preformed at the Dursleys had gotten him a warning with the threat of having his wand snapped after a second offense. This is what caused him to run
Not quite. Harry left in a rage after threatening Vernon after the accident. It was after he left that he started to panic because of the underage magic.
 

torgrim

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#5
nother question:

because i never have nor will read the last book, but am still curious...

when harry got rid of the horocrux in him, did he lose his parseltounge abilities?

just wondering if he would have passed it on to his kids, being an inherited talent.
 
#6
Unshown. I think he *should* have lost them, since they were part of the piece of Voldemort's soul, but given that Parseltongue can apparently be imitated :)no:) successfully...I don't know. Honestly, I am coming to the conclusion that Rowling was deliberately trying to kill her series. Not that she was replaced, but that she'd gotten sick of the whole thing and wanted to end it as soon as she could.
 

pillz

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#7
I think that the pressure got to her. She went from being an author of young age children book to having created a cult followed series.. On top of that, having people influencing you to try to make the story more adult, trying to finish a story that everyone has decided should be finished there own way, and having to deal with the whole Media Influence interfering with her?(Skeeter) I think it just got to great, and then it came to a point where the work she was writing she knew would never live up to expectations as most readers expect it to be of better quality of the previous... That had to have killed her muse soundly. Also you can not forget the movies?

Was it ever mentioned that the Potters were Warders?
Are Hermies parrents Dan and Emma?
 

lord geryon

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#8
About the Potters, I don't know, but Hermione's parents were never named.

EDIT: A lot of people use Dan and Emma cause of the actors for Harry and Hermione, obviously.
 

jaredstar

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#9
i see it most often in fics where the pairing is harry/hermione
 

WannabeKurt

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#11
lord geryon said:
About the Potters, I don't know, but Hermione's parents were never named.

EDIT: A lot of people use Dan and Emma cause of the actors for Harry and Hermione, obviously.
Nice sig, LG
 

lord geryon

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#12
WannabeKurt said:
lord geryon said:
About the Potters, I don't know, but Hermione's parents were never named.

EDIT: A lot of people use Dan and Emma cause of the actors for Harry and Hermione, obviously.
Nice sig, LG
Thanks. ^_^
 

sith2886

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#13
my turn

Arthur Weasley is the "ghost"? canon or some made up fannon excuse to make Weasley bad ass?
 

lord geryon

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#14
sith2886 said:
my turn

Arthur Weasley is the "ghost"? canon or some made up fannon excuse to make Weasley bad ass?
Fanon.

Arthur Weasley was never anything of value.
 
#15
lord geryon said:
sith2886 said:
my turn

Arthur Weasley is the "ghost"? canon or some made up fannon excuse to make Weasley bad ass?
Fanon.

Arthur Weasley was never anything of value.
And yet Rowling still chose to keep him alive instead of Lupin and Tonks. :no:
 

Lord of Bones

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#16
Legendary Legacy said:
lord geryon said:
sith2886 said:
my turn

Arthur Weasley is the "ghost"? canon or some made up fannon excuse to make Weasley bad ass?
Fanon.

Arthur Weasley was never anything of value.
And yet Rowling still chose to keep him alive instead of Lupin and Tonks. :no:
Frankly, none of them (except Bill, Charlie and the twins) were of any value. Molly killing LeStrange made me cringe.
 

lord geryon

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#17
Lord of Bones said:
Legendary Legacy said:
lord geryon said:
sith2886 said:
my turn

Arthur Weasley is the "ghost"? canon or some made up fannon excuse to make Weasley bad ass?
Fanon.

Arthur Weasley was never anything of value.
And yet Rowling still chose to keep him alive instead of Lupin and Tonks. :no:
Frankly, none of them (except Bill, Charlie and the twins) were of any value. Molly killing LeStrange made me cringe.
A lot of them were of value, Tonks and Remus especially... but Rowling wasn't willing to write an mature story, so a lot of their value was wasted.

Hell, two ideas I can think of... Remus is an excellent teacher, and I think it's canon that he was the smart one of the Marauders. Have him team up with the twins and develop weapons of war, Marauder style. Hell, put Sirius with em too.

Tonks would make a hella awesome assassin.
 

torgrim

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#18
i dont remember seeing any realy mischievous side to lupin in cannon, he always seemed to just be this drab depressed character to me. Though I mostly didnt like him for not being in Harrys life untill Harry was back in the public eye. Not suggesting he wanted fame, just more that he was only interested in Harry because others were, as such the whole I'm your surrogate uncle/whatever irritated me.

But Tonks had a fair bit of potential, interesting family history, job and abilities. Not to mention being a cool vibrant character.
 

Luthorne

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#19
lord geryon said:
Lord of Bones said:
Legendary Legacy said:
lord geryon said:
sith2886 said:
my turn

Arthur Weasley is the "ghost"? canon or some made up fannon excuse to make Weasley bad ass?
Fanon.

Arthur Weasley was never anything of value.
And yet Rowling still chose to keep him alive instead of Lupin and Tonks. :no:
Frankly, none of them (except Bill, Charlie and the twins) were of any value. Molly killing LeStrange made me cringe.
A lot of them were of value, Tonks and Remus especially... but Rowling wasn't willing to write an mature story, so a lot of their value was wasted.

Hell, two ideas I can think of... Remus is an excellent teacher, and I think it's canon that he was the smart one of the Marauders. Have him team up with the twins and develop weapons of war, Marauder style. Hell, put Sirius with em too.

Tonks would make a hella awesome assassin.
I think the Lord of Bones was saying that the only Weasleys of any value were those ones, not Harry Potter characters in general.

And, in all honesty, I tend to think that Remus is a pretty depressed guy that would never have wound up chatting with Harry if he hadn't been a teacher, just because...well, he's wrapped up in his own problems. Werewolf, all his closest friends dead or traitors, and in all honesty, he seems to have it pretty rough just in general, given how haggard he tends to look and his choice in clothing, unless you think he's just a cheapskate...I mean, sure, it's not that great for Harry, but I think Remus' actions were more or less understandable.

Plus, he didn't know shit about the Dursley's, I'd imagine...maybe it's just me, but going up to some strange family you don't know, and possibly don't even know where they live, so you can see the kid they're taking care of, while you're having financial issues...it's not all that surprising, in my opinion.

But yeah, Tonks had potential. And, I liked Remus. And Sirius was awesome. And the twins were pretty cool...if the twins and Sirius had been able to brainstorm, minimum, and especially if Remus got into the deal...could have had some potential there, I think. Ah, well. :huh.:
 

Reader458

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#20
I have a question about the Marouders Map. IIRC the twins stole it from Filchs office but how did they know the passwords for it? ("I solemnly swear..." and "Mischeif managed")
 

lord geryon

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#21
The plot required that they knew it, so they knew it.

It was never explained.
 

Nebkreb

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#22
I think Tonks should have gotten more story time, and while I liked the Remus/Tonks pairing while I was reading it, I feel like he is just too depressed for her.

And I agree, I would much rather Mr. Weasley die that Tonks. But JK wanted the whole orphan mirror thing (Harry is an orphan to begin the series, Teddy to end it) to show that things are better: Harry wasn't cared for, Teddy is
 

Luthorne

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#23
Hmm. I have a question, actually. How much did they ever say about the Black's place, the one on...Grimmauld Street, I think it was? How many floors, what all kinds of rooms and artifacts did it have, just how big was it, what sort of neighborhood was it in? Even if it wasn't explicitly stated, what was implied? It's been awhile since I read Order of the Phoenix, and I disliked it enough that I don't really feel like reading through it and the sequels to try and pin that sort of information down, so if anyone happens to know...I'd appreciate it. I've been fiddling with a notion on and off, so...
 

Nebkreb

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#24
From what I can remember:

#12 Grimmauld Place, somewhere in London
It was in a bad neighborhood, like it looked pretty shady when they brought Harry over
goblin-heads adorned the walls
Trolls leg umbrella stand that always tripped up Tonksey
Multiple floors, with the upper floors being filled with dark artifacts
Lots of dust and dirt that Mrs. Weasley made them clean by hand, regardless of the fact that a wizard could have Scourgify-ed that in a minute
Sirius' mother's portrait hung in the entrance hall, covered by a ratty curtain. she could open it and scream at whoever walked in
 

ttestagr

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#25
lord geryon said:
The plot required that they knew it, so they knew it.

It was never explained.
We learned in book 3 that the map will give messages if you try to use it without the password. In the case of a teacher, insulting messages. It's likely that in the case of a student looking for trouble, it would give clues on the password. Remus' comments later in the book about it suggest just a thing as well.
 
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