Naruto Rant about an aspect of powerful naruto fics
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An idea for a better Naruto: have him learn the Ansatsuken style from Street Fighter. Not the slightly watered-down version most of them use, but the true style. The Ansatsuken was originally an assasin's art anyways. Plus, the whole corruption from the Dark Hadou could make an interesting plot device. If Kyuubi-fied Naruto wasn't enough for you, he could cause some real damage here...
*Pictures Naruto using the Shungokusatsu on Neji in the Chuunin Exam Finals*
"The Raging Demon... it's power is unsurpassed. It is not my fists, but your own sins that will destroy you." B)
I wonder how the crowd would react to that?
*Pictures Naruto using the Shungokusatsu on Neji in the Chuunin Exam Finals*
"The Raging Demon... it's power is unsurpassed. It is not my fists, but your own sins that will destroy you." B)
I wonder how the crowd would react to that?
Also, I've been thinking about a Naruto/SFIII cross involving Oro myself a bit lately. One where Oro visits the Leaf about once a year to check on the seal that Yondaime trapped the Kyuubi with, because it was his design, decades and decades ago before he even became a hermit.
Naruto calls him "really really old man" as opposed to the Third Hokage, who's just "old man". Oro calls the Third "Brat" or "Young punk". Sarutobi, meanwhile, just takes the abuse because Oro is/was a figure of legend decades before Sarutobi was even born, although these days it's not clear why.
Anyway the payoff is that on Oro's last visit to the Leaf, several months before Naruto graduates, Oro and the Third are talking alone. For some reason, the subject is aging, and Oro makes a comment that he can guarantee Sarutobi a year. Sarutobi, looking underneath the underneath, (correctly) interprets this to mean he (Sarutobi) will be dead in a year, but he doesn't give a cause because he doesn't know one. Oro doesn't confirm it, but he doesn't deny it either. He just starts talking about "debts decades overdue", which Sarutobi does not understand. Oro doesn't elaborate, but presses his hand to Sarutobi's chest and chants a few words. Nothing happens. Oro says something to the effect of "you'll get it when you need it".
Exactly a year later, when Sarutobi is struggling against Orochimaru, Oro's gift reveals itself: it's enough of Oro's (the hermit's) mystical power to grant Sarutobi enough strength to pull Orochimaru's spirit arms off completely -- meaning that no matter what body Orochimaru is in, he can never use any ninjutsu again, because the arms of his very essence have simply been ripped off at the shoulder. Sarutobi thought to do this because he was struggling for too long to pull out Orochimaru's soul. Sarutobo then dies, Oro's gift expiring.
Oro finds out later what Sarutobi did, and decides the "brat" was a stupid punk after all, because his gift was meant for Sarutobi to have enough power to kill Orochimaru directly -- that was the debt. The debt Sarutobi owes the entire world, because Orochimaru's continued existence was Sarutobi's fault, his huge mistake, if you will.
Naruto calls him "really really old man" as opposed to the Third Hokage, who's just "old man". Oro calls the Third "Brat" or "Young punk". Sarutobi, meanwhile, just takes the abuse because Oro is/was a figure of legend decades before Sarutobi was even born, although these days it's not clear why.
Anyway the payoff is that on Oro's last visit to the Leaf, several months before Naruto graduates, Oro and the Third are talking alone. For some reason, the subject is aging, and Oro makes a comment that he can guarantee Sarutobi a year. Sarutobi, looking underneath the underneath, (correctly) interprets this to mean he (Sarutobi) will be dead in a year, but he doesn't give a cause because he doesn't know one. Oro doesn't confirm it, but he doesn't deny it either. He just starts talking about "debts decades overdue", which Sarutobi does not understand. Oro doesn't elaborate, but presses his hand to Sarutobi's chest and chants a few words. Nothing happens. Oro says something to the effect of "you'll get it when you need it".
Exactly a year later, when Sarutobi is struggling against Orochimaru, Oro's gift reveals itself: it's enough of Oro's (the hermit's) mystical power to grant Sarutobi enough strength to pull Orochimaru's spirit arms off completely -- meaning that no matter what body Orochimaru is in, he can never use any ninjutsu again, because the arms of his very essence have simply been ripped off at the shoulder. Sarutobi thought to do this because he was struggling for too long to pull out Orochimaru's soul. Sarutobo then dies, Oro's gift expiring.
Oro finds out later what Sarutobi did, and decides the "brat" was a stupid punk after all, because his gift was meant for Sarutobi to have enough power to kill Orochimaru directly -- that was the debt. The debt Sarutobi owes the entire world, because Orochimaru's continued existence was Sarutobi's fault, his huge mistake, if you will.
Behold, Necro Powers!
Just have to say, I would love to see this written, if not by GH then by you or someone else. I freely admit I suck at Street Fighter in any incarnation, but Oro was just a fun character. And I can't help but love the idea of him being some supoer old, highly revered Legend among the Shinobi Nations, but none of them know exactly WHY he's revered or a legend. Somebody just needs to write this, if only for the interaction between Sandaime 'God of Ninja' Sarutobi and Older than Dirt and God Oro.
Just have to say, I would love to see this written, if not by GH then by you or someone else. I freely admit I suck at Street Fighter in any incarnation, but Oro was just a fun character. And I can't help but love the idea of him being some supoer old, highly revered Legend among the Shinobi Nations, but none of them know exactly WHY he's revered or a legend. Somebody just needs to write this, if only for the interaction between Sandaime 'God of Ninja' Sarutobi and Older than Dirt and God Oro.
I will say this, most of the ninjas seem to wear bright colors, even the ANBU have white wrappings, armor, shin and arm guards. Even with cloaks, which do hide the glaring brightness, make it harder to move in silence, or fight with any amount of agility.
Sakura comes to mind, with the bright pink hair, and red dress like clothing. Even if naruto did choose to discard the orange, his hair is bright blond, which is easy to pick out in a forest environ.
Most, if not all these ninja, have hair color that will not blend in, cloth that is too bright for a forest, and use jutsu that seems to defeat the purpose of being a ninja, which is to kill quickly, quietly, and with as little fuss and muss as possible. What has summoning a MASSIVE toad, snake, or slug, elemental attacks in the shapes of dragons, or bloody fireballs as big as a house have anything to do with being an assassin?
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Sakura comes to mind, with the bright pink hair, and red dress like clothing. Even if naruto did choose to discard the orange, his hair is bright blond, which is easy to pick out in a forest environ.
Most, if not all these ninja, have hair color that will not blend in, cloth that is too bright for a forest, and use jutsu that seems to defeat the purpose of being a ninja, which is to kill quickly, quietly, and with as little fuss and muss as possible. What has summoning a MASSIVE toad, snake, or slug, elemental attacks in the shapes of dragons, or bloody fireballs as big as a house have anything to do with being an assassin?
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I agree with the character still need to fuck up point.
I try to do that in "Of Snakes, Foxes, and Family Trees." Naruto is way more competent and powerful than in canon, but not monstrously so. He also screws up quite frequently. Failing his exams is one example. He wanted to be at the bottom of the class and act like a clown, but he overdoes it and keeps failing instead of ending up as the dead-last. Mentioning that Anko is his mother in public is another monster screw up, especially on front of so many foreign shinobi. You can't have the character be all knowing and perfect without the story getting stagnant.
Of course it took me a few different stories worth of writing to get that lesson in my head, so you just have to chalk some of that up to experience. How many of us here can say our earliest stuff we wrote was anywhere near as good as out later attempts?
I try to do that in "Of Snakes, Foxes, and Family Trees." Naruto is way more competent and powerful than in canon, but not monstrously so. He also screws up quite frequently. Failing his exams is one example. He wanted to be at the bottom of the class and act like a clown, but he overdoes it and keeps failing instead of ending up as the dead-last. Mentioning that Anko is his mother in public is another monster screw up, especially on front of so many foreign shinobi. You can't have the character be all knowing and perfect without the story getting stagnant.
Of course it took me a few different stories worth of writing to get that lesson in my head, so you just have to chalk some of that up to experience. How many of us here can say our earliest stuff we wrote was anywhere near as good as out later attempts?
Regarding the fact that a lot of ninja have distinctive hair or clothes that make them stand out, it is strange that they are not trained to keep up a henge into unremarkable-looking people or even camouflaged appearance (like changing the color of the entire surface of the ninja into a near perfect match of the background and maybe even keep changing appropriately while moving) while "on the job" and only be their natural very visible selves when not working. Of course it would be difficult for the readers or viewers if all you see either background with word balloons and outlines or nondistinctive looking people who do not look anything like their actual selves and keeps changing with the situation.
As a variation idea, if Naruto failed the original bunshin test because he was pumping out too much chakra for the few he made, consider whether he could have succeeded if he just created enough clones like a couple thousand or even a million until he gets the amount correct. It could have resulted in some strange tactics like having them just keep charging the targets to essentially blind them with clones poofing out of existance in seemingly never ending streams. Or for insanity inspiring, have them all screaming different things at the same time into the ears of his opponents. Naruto might even study a bit of poetry and singing to try do some sanity blasting out-of-sync voices perhaps laced with a bit of Kyuubi chakra in the manner of some horror stories.
As a variation idea, if Naruto failed the original bunshin test because he was pumping out too much chakra for the few he made, consider whether he could have succeeded if he just created enough clones like a couple thousand or even a million until he gets the amount correct. It could have resulted in some strange tactics like having them just keep charging the targets to essentially blind them with clones poofing out of existance in seemingly never ending streams. Or for insanity inspiring, have them all screaming different things at the same time into the ears of his opponents. Naruto might even study a bit of poetry and singing to try do some sanity blasting out-of-sync voices perhaps laced with a bit of Kyuubi chakra in the manner of some horror stories.