Requiem

DhampyrX2

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#26
SotF said:
DhampyrX2 said:
The sad part here is Ventress is essentially neutral in the grand scheme of things at this point.? I'm interested to see how you play it.
Except that to the Empire, there are no Neutral force users so that's a big reason for her to end up helping
Can't see Ahsoka appreciating that one. Ventress would be right up there with Palpatine in the ranks of people Ahsoka hates with a passion.

And for some reason I see Ventress doing all she can to get under Ahsoka's skin. Maybe offering "advice" (much to Ahsoka's disgust) to catch Vader's attention since Ventress seemed to do so well attracting Obi-Wan's.
 

SotF

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#27
Although Ventress won't last long, I just needed someone I wouldn't feel that bad about getting killed off in a plan for later in it.
 

SotF

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#28
The others called him Twitch for a damn good reason.

He was a demolitions, repair, and sabotage expert originally part of Beta Squad before the disaster that claimed his podmates.

Hammer was working on the computers end of it while he'd been working on the more physical end.

When they'd stolen the Memory, it's cargo had come with it.

Namely a shipment of Corellian Power Suits that were being shipped to some CIS mercenaries.

With years of scrounging and making due, the two technical clone commandos had begun working on an idea for making the powered armor useful.

The fact that half the equipment they were messing with was illegal in most civilized systems, and the rest, well, that would be better left unsaid.

A large portion of the phrik alloy they'd gotten their hands on was being smelted under the guidance of a pair of astromechs they'd commandeered while they sandwiched the new armor with plasteel and a half dozen other types ontop of the stripped armor plating.

They'd decided to use what they had and make some monsters.

Five suits of the armor were being put togather at the same time, more of a limitation on what they were willing to do rather than anything else. Get Theta some new toys to play with.

Jump servos mixed with modified versions of the jump trooper packs salvaged from the stores of the late Commander Cody's personal squad for added mobility, adding the repurposed pieces of remotes and datapads as well as a built in generator.

Unfortunately, they weren't allowed to play with the handfull of portable proton torpedo launchers the fleet had, but they did manage to pull some concussion missile launchers out of the storage bays since they had more of them, and well, more fighters than pilots really.

"Done," he chimed while setting aside the arcwrench.

"Done with what?" he heard the tone of Captain Rex and jerked to something resembling attention.

"Making some new armor to play with."

"Why?"

"Well, Katarn armor just isn't that good at creating mayhem," he answered, "We're good at causing destruction, but stealth isn't something we're that good at, normally we slip in while the enemy is running away fro the explosions we've caused."

Rex started to groan as he stared at the monstrocities before him that looked almost like giant parodies of the clone trooper armor.

"We added shields and dug up some stealth field generators to integrate," Hammer explained, "Flame projectors, linked heavy repeaters, not to mention the concussion missiles and thermal detonators."

Rex blinked, after working with Jedi, he expected this sort of thing to come from them.

Well, them or the irregulars such as worked with General Kota.

Theta Squad was either so fucked up in the tank to think normally, or perhaps that planet they'd been stranded on had something in the water.
 

sith2886

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#29
Katarn Armor? as in Kyle Katarn or am I missing something?
 

SotF

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#30
sith2886 said:
Katarn Armor? as in Kyle Katarn or am I missing something?
The armor worn by the Clone Commando's is called Katarn-Class Commando Armor which is being mentioned here.

As a side note, a group took the name and made something that looks similar to the Clone Trooper armors called Katarn Armor, but it has yet to be developed by this point
 

sith2886

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#31
Thanks for the clear up.
 

SotF

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#32
Alec grinned as he tossed the datapad aside.

For some force forsaken reason, Rex had put him in charge of the Jedi they picked up until she woke up.

Part of the reason was that he, supposedly, could have become a Jedi in his own right.

He'd known for a long time that he'd never be a jedi, no matter what the masters had said.

Hell, he'd been a Padawan for a full two weeks before getting shipped off to the medical corps.

Of course, the fact that his supposed master had said he needed to learn to empathize with people other than those he trusted, not that demoting him and sending him off to a backwater world did much about that anyway.

The Jedi healer had decided that when he'd discovered that for every way to heal someone, at least with the force, there were ways to reverse it with the same technique. His willingness to use those techniques that way were part of the reason he'd ended up without a master then.

They'd been sent to a small world and had been helping the sick when someone held the clinic hostage with his master inside before taking her hostage at blaster point and the threat of planted bombs.

Thankfully, he'd been elsewhere and thus could do something about it.

Lightsabers had never been his strong suit, and he'd always figured that it would be much better to use a blaster and wear some armor or get ahold of a shield than learn how to deflect blaster bolts back at the shooter and there were better ways to eliminate foes without either.

Windu had been teaching the various forms when he'd asked the class about what Alec had later learned was supposed to be "Form 0", not that he'd known that at the time, and had answered the question about not drawing a lightsaber as a positive because in any fight you should have taken steps to incapacitate your foe before they got into melee reach.

But more to the point, he had ended up doing several things that his master would never have approved of.

He'd been asked by the local police forces to aid in the rescue operations and had quickly agreed to it.

One of the people responsible had been injured in the taking of the hostages, and Alec had dutifully healed him.

However, then he'd decided to interrogate the man himself, making the bastard watch as the blaster burns were allowed to return with an agonizing slowness while he mentioned the hundreds of healing techniques learned over the course of his training...and the fact that each could easily cause the same effects if used in reverse.

The man had caved in minutes.

Requisitioning a rifle, he'd taken up position blocks away and used the force to find those who had taken the hostages within the building they were using and started shooting.

Killing never bothered him, at least as long as there was a reason for it.

No purpose in senseless deaths.

Rescue of someone connected to him was his first goal, but his master didn't see it that way when he walked into the building to let the hostages out. Some poodoo about how he was to attached to her.

Personally, he had never really wanted to be a jedi to begin with, but the choice to join the order had been made for him.

Someday, Alec would like to find his parents and, just once, look into their eyes and ask why they abandoned him to the jedi.

It wasn't that he hated the jedi, far from it, they served their purpose and he hated hearing what had happened to them.

But he could never agree with the philosophy they'd tried to cram down his throats.

What's the point of living if you cannot feel alive?

But he'd abandoned the Medicorps when the war came tot he mudball they'd sent him to, and had found a family of his own there in the Commando survivors.

A fluctuation in the force drew his attention before a chime warned him of the change in breathing patterns asthe girl Rex brought from the surface of Rhyloth started to wake up.

He grinned as her eyes opened and flickered in the dim light of the medbay.

"Morning."
 

SotF

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#34
Reader458 said:
I really like this Alec guy.
Yeah, Alec is based on a friends character in the RP I've been running recently. The failed Jedi who never wanted to be one to begin with and called it quits with the order. (His character quit before the Clone Wars and had been a part of the Exploration Corps rather than Alec who quit the Medical Corps and is technically still part of it, not that he'd admit it)
 

SotF

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#35
"We don't have the fighter complement that would make those ships worth the crews," Rex commented as he gazed at the two Venator class craft that he was forced to pass judgment on, "Reinforcing what we have does shift the balance more towards the naval personnel on our current ships until we can get some more Victory or Imperator class ships, but its better than keeping two empty carriers with us."

A nod from a few members of the crew.

"Actually, there may be another option," Twitch spoke up as he pressed a few keys on his datapad and slid it towards the defacto leader of their fleet, "With the traitors attack on the Geonosian allies we had, the stockpiles they'd stashed are now effectively ours."

"What exactly are you suggesting?" Brand asked his brother, "That we start carrying Vulture droids on those two?"

"No," he responded, "On one of the deep space storage depot's the CIS had, they had a very interesting stockpile of equipment."

Rex seemed to raise a single eyebrow in silent confusion.

"We have two Ion Pulse Cannons and the plans to power them," the commando continued, "The Hanger bays of the Venators is large enough to mount one inside if we strip out the snub support equipment."

A pause with a shrug, "Most likely, a good chunk of the ground complement would also need to be removed, but both of those would help keep the other ships fully equipped for use."

"Ion Pulse Cannons?" the fighter pilot asked with a blink.

"They were developed for the Sep's Subjugator-class ships," Twitch explained, "And while we can't support the full load out that the Malevolance or the Devastation could, we can easily support one on a ship with a slight loss o firing speed, but it would give us an advantage if used correctly."

He grinned, "Besides, I want to see the traitors go boom."
 

Canis

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#36
As a long-time avid fan of the Star Wars Expanded Universe the idea of any form of the Ion Cannon being a super-powerful ship-killing weapon makes me simultaneously cringe and froth at the mouth. In the Star Wars EU, hell even in the Original Trilogy, Ion Cannons have never been anything more or less than anti-electronic weaponry used to disable ships for capture or escape.

The only mentions of damage due to Ion Cannons in the EU were when either a massed salvo all hit in a small area and caused an overload or when a fighter was hit by a capital grade beam and the electronics overloaded so violently that they set off the fuel stores or torpedo warheads.

In fact, it's more than likely that the idea of the Ion Cannon being some sort of super ship-killing weapon was lifted directly from Stargate SG-1 where a particularly advanced race had a weapon they called "Ion Cannon" that was capable of one-shotting a Goa'uld mothership.

That being said, as long as you're consistent with your use of Ion Cannon technology I don't see a real problem with it in this context, it's only my hardcore inner fanboy that's being driven to expression of a bi-polar nature (alternately whimpering in soul-searing pain and ranting about making the rivers run red with the blood of the blasphemers).
 

SotF

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#37
Canis said:
As a long-time avid fan of the Star Wars Expanded Universe the idea of any form of the Ion Cannon being a super-powerful ship-killing weapon makes me simultaneously cringe and froth at the mouth. In the Star Wars EU, hell even in the Original Trilogy, Ion Cannons have never been anything more or less than anti-electronic weaponry used to disable ships for capture or escape.

The only mentions of damage due to Ion Cannons in the EU were when either a massed salvo all hit in a small area and caused an overload or when a fighter was hit by a capital grade beam and the electronics overloaded so violently that they set off the fuel stores or torpedo warheads.

In fact, it's more than likely that the idea of the Ion Cannon being some sort of super ship-killing weapon was lifted directly from Stargate SG-1 where a particularly advanced race had a weapon they called "Ion Cannon" that was capable of one-shotting a Goa'uld mothership.

That being said, as long as you're consistent with your use of Ion Cannon technology I don't see a real problem with it in this context, it's only my hardcore inner fanboy that's being driven to expression of a bi-polar nature (alternately whimpering in soul-searing pain and ranting about making the rivers run red with the blood of the blasphemers).
The specifics of that type of Ion Cannon being a death beam have more to do with the ability to hammer down all of your defenses and leave you open to everything else. Essentially, it's the first part of a one-two punch for the knockout.

Its the sheer power of the weapon that makes it dangerous, essentially the same effect as a capital grade weapon on it to some extent.
 

Canis

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#38
Now that I can understand. It's just that most of my encounters with Clone Wars era Ion Cannon technologies have people treating it not as the shield breaker, but as the Hand of God smiting anything that wanders into its path.
 

SotF

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#39
Canis said:
Now that I can understand. It's just that most of my encounters with Clone Wars era Ion Cannon technologies have people treating it not as the shield breaker, but as the Hand of God smiting anything that wanders into its path.
I'd considered making it a hybrid weapon, essentially having it be a higher powered turbolaser bolt encased in the ion cannon shot.
 

Canis

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#40
I've done a bit of reading and while wikipedia is incredibly vague on power outputs for the various types of weapons (and probably because the source material is vague as all hell) it is stated outright, that such hybrid weapons don't have the same punch as a similarly sized pure-bred weapon. Still that leaves an incredible amount of wiggle room since, as stated above, there's no given scale on power outputs.

On the other hand, the same sources paint Ion Cannons as specialized Particle Projection Cannons so if you tweak the name or do an in-story explanation of these Ion Cannons are "tuned" differently, I can easily see them being major offensive weapons since the Expanded Universe specifies that there are two types of shields, particle and ray, and that while all capital ships carry ray shields not all of them carry or regularly utilize particle shields.
 

SotF

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#41
Canis said:
I've done a bit of reading and while wikipedia is incredibly vague on power outputs for the various types of weapons (and probably because the source material is vague as all hell) it is stated outright, that such hybrid weapons don't have the same punch as a similarly sized pure-bred weapon. Still that leaves an incredible amount of wiggle room since, as stated above, there's no given scale on power outputs.

On the other hand, the same sources paint Ion Cannons as specialized Particle Projection Cannons so if you tweak the name or do an in-story explanation of these Ion Cannons are "tuned" differently, I can easily see them being major offensive weapons since the Expanded Universe specifies that there are two types of shields, particle and ray, and that while all capital ships carry ray shields not all of them carry or regularly utilize particle shields.
As a hybrid weapon, I'm mainly thinking of a weapon that is essentially two weapons mixed together into a ship killer.

On another note, even in the original trilogy, Ion Weapons were not entirely anti-electronics as shown by the Ion Bombs in the Hoth Asteroid Field
 

Canis

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#42
Ion Bombs? Did they actually call them that? I thought they were engineless concussion or proton warheads.

I suppose it's just another one of those inconsistencies that gets glossed over or mostly unnoticed.

Say, do you have an AIM account? I have absolutely no-one in my current list of contacts that I can talk about this stuff with, and it's been an absolutely refreshing change of pace.
 

SotF

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#43
Canis said:
Ion Bombs? Did they actually call them that? I thought they were engineless concussion or proton warheads.

I suppose it's just another one of those inconsistencies that gets glossed over or mostly unnoticed.

Say, do you have an AIM account? I have absolutely no-one in my current list of contacts that I can talk about this stuff with, and it's been an absolutely refreshing change of pace.
Got rid of it a long time ago, just to many things to keep track of at the moment.

And a lot of the fluff calls those Ion Bombs as it is, other fluff calls them heavy space bombs so who knows...
 

SotF

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#44
Great, just great.

Alec dodged the crimson blade that left a line of molten metal across the wall right at neck height.

They'd gotten a tip of a possible Jedi and had moved in to attempt a rescue.

Unfortunately, his team had gotten there to late.

The Jedi was already dead, and his killer, one of Palpie's Inquisitors, was still there when they'd attacked the jail.

As he leaped backwards from another slash, the permacrete of the structure seemed to growl at him while shaking from what had to be the rest of the squads engagement with the local and the inquisitors stormtroopers.

The force be with him, well, that wasn't quite useful when facing off against another force user.

Jolting backwards to avoid another slash that still managed to scorch bits of his hair.

"Well, I needed a haircut anyway," he commented before continuing the move into a back flip over the next part of the attack.

His foe was good, Alec was pretty sure the cloaked man was either a master or nearly there with Shien with the sweeping attacks that kept on being used and the chaining of them.

At least, with just him being the opponent in an enclosed space, that style was more limited compared to the style he'd preferred when forced to train with such an archaic weapon, namely Ataru.

Forcing his mind to relax, as he went vertical, flipping to kick off the ceiling in midair in order to finally get the moment of time between dodges to draw his blaster pistols, unfortunately his rifle was still laying where it had fallen in three pieces after being used to slow the Inquisitor down.

He landed with a grunt and rolled clear of another attack before lunging, alternating fire from his pistols, purposefully spreading each shot into a pattern.

It was one he'd remembered from his time in the Temple, one of the training droids had used that pattern as an opening move every single time someone trained against it.

While it was designed to help show the benefits of Soresu moves, but at the same time it let him hide some of his skill by inciting the specific results he wanted.

Diving forwards as the last of the quartet of shots was fired, he passed the mans feet before rolling to his feet once more while the man tried to attack in a spin.

Good, he could evacuate if things kept going his way with the transperisteel window at the end overlooking the rooftops.

His opponent lunged as Alec felt the forces warning and dropped into a crouch.

Flowing through him, he let the power of the force free to slam the overextended dark Jedi upwards to smash into one of the lights. The sound of at least one rib breaking left the force adept wince in instinctive sympathy.

Flickering before dying, the act plunged the segment of the corridor into shadows while the man landed on his feet with a roar of anger.

Alec fell back, a glance at his chrono marked the remaining time in the countdown for what he'd told those he claimed as brothers would be given before joining them in flight to the spaceport.

A series of powerful strikes made him blink, but cost him half of one of the pistols.

Apparently his foe was also good at Juyo, or were those parts of the expanded Vaapad?

The second could make the lightsaber, in his not so humble opinion, a halfway decent weapon if it wasn't for the time required to train to reach that point, but Juyo was dangerous in a tight space in and of itself as an incomplete form.

No more overextention in this one that he could take advantage of, but at the same time the man wasn't quite as good with it. But then Shien was designed for facing multiple enemies while Juyo and Vaapad were just as good against a solitary enemy, give up on advantage to get another.

At least it wasn't Soresu, the anti-blaster style was one that would make it more difficult than anything else.

Tossing aside the ruined blaster pistol, Alec wondered if he could get his hands on some of the Magnaguard wreckage in order to craft a pair that would be immune to lightsabers, he hated losing his weapons.

Retreating from another series of attacks before his empty hand brushed the cool material of the window..

A warning from the force as the inquisitor charged gave him a path to respond.

Rolling backwards, hair rubbing against the transperisteel while he pulled with the force, yanking his opponent closer than the man had expected and kicking out with an armored boot with all of his strength into the soft flesh between his enemies legs.

The attack was enough leverage as he fired on full auto into the window, while the man went forwards into the superheated material before it gave way into the darkness beyond.

Alec was back on his feet and following with a leap into the darkness, following the light of the blade firing his blaster while passing over it to land on one of the rooftops.

The body was laying there, smoldering where the weapon was in contact with the cloth the inquisitor had been wearing after slicing cleanly through the mans waist.

Reaching down he gripped the weapon and flipped it off before adding it to one of the pouches on his belt, a weapon for two, even if it was a melee weapon for two of his best blasters.

Alec pulled his comlink from its own pouch and held it to his lips, regretting being stuck ditching the helmet in order to face off with his foe.

"This is Theta 5," he stated while fighting his racing heart, "Inquisitor down, moving to the ship."
 

SotF

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#46
Canis said:
Not quite, mainly he was simply using the blasters to keep his opponent on his feet. The only exception would be purposefully mimicking a specific pattern in order to provoke a conditioned response that would give him the time to get past the Inquisitor without losing his head in the process, and as it was, that was a close thing.

Essentially, he's got the advantage with his blasters that most Jedi have with a lightsaber, and even there other characters have done some insane things with blasters that he's nowhere near capable of such as the Neepo/Grey Paladins and Agents of Ossus...
 

Canis

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#47
*sighs* More's the pity. Gun-fu's hard to pull off properly/believably, but if any character type could do it a Jedi could.
 

SotF

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#48
Canis said:
*sighs* More's the pity. Gun-fu's hard to pull off properly/believably, but if any character type could do it a Jedi could.
Problem is that there are already groups that can and do pull it off. The Teepo and Grey Paladins (Both Offshoots of the Jedi) and the Agents of Ossus are those that can and do use the abilities. At the moment, Alec is at the point where he mainly uses overwhelming firepower when available and loses quite a bit when confined except for when he can get the time to use most of the techniques he learned during his own training and brief time as a Padawan.

He will be using more elements of it as it progresses though.
 

SotF

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#49
The densely packed buildings made his passage relatively easy as he bolted across the rooftops towards the docking bay.

Alec was digging through his pockets while another building in the distance detonated into a fireball rising towards the clouds giving him a hint as to where the other Theta's were at the moment if the flashes of blaster fire weren't enough.

"Five," he heard Twitch's voice from the comlink, "Three's hijacked us a Juggernaut after we got a bit distracted."

Yep, that was Hammer alright, "Distracted Four?"

"Traitor fuel depot's go boom."

Yep, that explained it well enough.

"Hey," he heard Hammer over the same signal, "Did you know they've got a munitions depot as well, sure its war surplus, but still."

Great, more explosions and a delay in leaving.

"Guys," he responded while spotting a trail of Stormies heading towards the running firefight, "You have incoming, I'll attempt to slow them down."

The force was with him, he knew it and it was both his greatest ally and weapon.

Reaching out, he ripped the rear most of the stormtroopers from the ground and yanked him towards him.

Moving in a blink of an eye he grabbed the armored mans blaster rifle and pistol before applying more force to send the man crashing through the corner of the rooftop and down towards the streets. His target screaming the entire way until the final impact and crunch of armor collapsing upon impact brought silence.

There was no death, well, the code wasn't quite right on that count.

There was death, lots of it, and he was about to bring a whole lot more.

His next step was almost to easy as he let the force guide him.

Just as the Clone Troopers had, Stormies carried grenades in their utility belt.

The street was filled with fire from the simultaneous detonation of nearly a hundred scattered grenades before he continued his run, holstering the stolen blaster pistol in his empty holster and holding the rifle ready.
 

Reader458

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#50
Holee shit. That is a fast way to deal with troops, using their own grenades against them.

I'm starting to Really like this guy.
 
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