Ranma ½ Rosario + Ranma

[pacifist]

Why can't a male lead and a female lead want nothing more than to beat the snot out of each other for their own egos without any sexual tension or romantic overtones?

Because that's been what every tv show has shoved down our throats since the day we
were born. It's become the norm. It just gets worse when your making a fusion of 2
harem manga's.

But really Ranma has 2 girls actively after him. He doesn't need more.

I've decided to try something experimental with Moka(s), since I made the Inner one an unsymapthetic psychopath and the Outer one a helpless ninny. Making the two diverge in their goals and personalities and actually grow to resent and oppose each other seemed like an interesting direction to me.

Reminds me of an old Ranma fic <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1466624/1/Two_For_the_Price_of_One' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1466624/1/Two_...he_Price_of_One</a> Nabiki and Akane are conjoined twins. Nabiki accepts the engagement Akane rejects it. They always agreed with each other until Ranma came between them and messed things up.


For anyone who's read Rosario2. How does Moka's family treat her 2 personalities? Do
they consider them both to be equally valid or do they consider Outer Moka to be a
false personality?

Any plans to have Nexus II Rayden guest star or present a lecture. Just so he can get a bit more screen time.

 

[bissek]

Kokoa idolizes Inner Moka and doesn't care for Outer Moka. Kahlua has only been seen to interact with Inner Moka (In a fight). Akua is only interested in Inner Moka because she is necessary for her evil scheme to revive Alucard and barely knows Outer Moka.

 

[sworded]

Kokoa idolizes Inner Moka and doesn't care for Outer Moka. Kahlua has only been seen to interact with Inner Moka (In a fight). Akua is only interested in Inner Moka because she is necessary for her evil scheme to revive Alucard and barely knows Outer Moka.

Akua loves/lusts after Inner Mok and views Moka's Outer personality as a lie because it only formed after the last time they saw each other.

 

[zeebee1]

It's because you are humiliating a main character with a nobody for no discernible reason and are trying to write it as humor. I don't see the joke, I just see school and internet bullying. And of course the bully will not be punished because you think the bully is not important to you.

You know this basic lesson. If a joke is taken seriously the entire scene changes.

 

[Sebazu]

It does feel a little odd when you start making Moka suffer, unless it's related to her sucking Tsukune's blood, i mean you could have Fran inyect Tsukune with something to make his blood horribly gross and have Moka forget it several times.

Also, werent you gonna make Ranma start munching on stuff or something?

 

[Chiku_B]

I think the scene w/ moka in the bathroom is just fine. It seemed funny to me. It's just a classic thing you see in a comedy:

Character X is having a bad day, so you pile on a little bit more for a funny moment to leave the audience on a lighter note before commercial break. Or in the case of this story a scene break.

It'll probably flow better on ff.net when it's all together in one story. As for the Internet bullying part it's just one of those things that's horrible in real life, but like all other bad things, fair game in a fictional comedy about two fictional series.

I also think that scene serves to highlight one my favorite parts of fanfiction, unnamed extras. It's not for their intrinsic value as one-off characters, but for what they represent. When I see unnamed extras in a fic I know that an author is really trying to build up the universe that their story is in.

A lot of stories that seem badly written to me only focus on their primary and secondary characters or just put all the focus on a Mary Sue OC that was heavy handedly forced into the story. These stories can never become great because they don't take advantage of the setting behind the narrative. Unnamed extras really make a fanfic's setting seem full and well established. And yeah I like that in a story.

I mainly just wanted to say that the bathroom scene was fine though, I don't think you should change it.

 

[Black Dragon74]

It's because you are humiliating a main character with a nobody for no discernible reason and are trying to write it as humor.

So... is this the first time you've read my work? Humiliating people for laughs is kind of a staple. Or does the fact that it's just some extra make it worse?

I don't see the joke, I just see school and internet bullying.

Ah. I see.
It seems worthwhile to point out that earlier parts of this chapter included both off-screen gangrape and revenge killings in return for a character being "bullied" to death. Repeatedly.
I'm well aware that the "moral context" of the scene changes based on who's the victim and how they react, but this seems like a case of moral dissonance. Being embarrassed by having someone overhear your argument with yourself and then having evidence of your lunacy broadcast to the entire world does not seem horrible to me, it seems hilarious. Hell, I wouldn't even call that bullying, as you do.
This is a common problem, as I do so many terrible things to so many different characters who have a broad spectrum of sensibilities, character archetypes, and moral values. Read long enough, and you'll find something that you find particularly offensive.

And of course the bully will not be punished because you think the bully is not important to you.

Of course not. Who would punish her? Moka? Or did you mean the plot?
I'm not a huge fan of arbitrary plot karma, so I'm not going to bother having her eaten by the gigantic spider for her insensitivity, no. But if I get more complaints that the scene makes people sad (like Jin snapping that girl's head off) I'll relent from returning to it in the future to draw out the emotional torment.

It does feel a little odd when you start making Moka suffer, unless it's related to her sucking Tsukune's blood, i mean you could have Fran inyect Tsukune with something to make his blood horribly gross and have Moka forget it several times.

So am I the only one who remembers that she was soaked in water and beaten half to death after her body got hijacked?
'Cause this seems like small beans to me.

Also, werent you gonna make Ranma start munching on stuff or something?

"Munching on stuff"? What? What stuff?

 

[Aarik]

Most of Ranma's manga idle scene's had him eating stuff and reading. (probably manga)

I think, I remember it being mentioned here.

 

[varth]

But if I get more complaints that the scene makes people sad (like Jin snapping that girl's head off) I'll relent from returning to it in the future to draw out the emotional torment.

The scene seems perfectly fine to me (other than monster being so "in" - normally YA students seem too far removed from socializing on the web, as in "Facebook? Is this where I hit your face with Physics Book, Armored Edition?"). I guess zeebee is just kind of negative grouch. If he is only one disliking something, it's probably nothing.

 

[Black Dragon74]

The scene seems perfectly fine to me (other than monster being so "in" - normally YA students seem too far removed from socializing on the web, as in "Facebook? Is this where I hit your face with Physics Book, Armored Edition?").

Well, some students DO actually pass their "act like a modern human" classes.
Despite all the evidence I've provided to the contrary (you'd think they'd be the first ones killed off, huh?)

 

[zeebee1]

Social death is the worst kind of death. I didn't complain about the stuff before because I only started a couple of chapters ago, and everything else involved random characters suffering. You basically did the equivalent of punching out the teeth of a sympathetic character and called it a joke.

 

[Sebazu]

Social death?Considering how popular Moka is just for her supposed hotness(i prefer kurumu) and the probably small number of student that even understand internet the most something like that would do would be adding some rumors about her species or making more some people thing they might have a chance with one of Moka's other personality or something.

 

[pacifist]

I have to agree. In a fic like this social death will not occur due to a unnamed character
uploading a transcript of a conversation that is only embarrassing due to the fact that
it was between 2 people with 1 body. As the unnamed said considering her fellow
students this doesn't even rate as being weird.

The only person in this school who has actively disliked Outer Moka in this story has
been Kurumu and the person on the student council who wrote a complaint over her
being too sexy.

Internet bullying and being embarrassed may be important in real life but if your going
to judge this fic by those standards start with the mass killings.

EDIT: What the transcript can do depending on author is alert those outside of school of
the situation. Either Moka's family or Ranma's crew. However since BD stated he had
enough to work with a few chapters ago probably not. A phone call from Ranma's mother
could be funny though

punching out the teeth of a sympathetic character

Considering that I hated the canon Outer Moka I'd say BD's doing well just to make me
like her a little.

 

[Chiku_B]

About this whole 'social death thing' Moka would probably be fine even in a real high school. Out of the main cast she's probably the most popular student at Youkai academy, and a sex symbol. I was significantly less popular and less of a sex symbol in high school and my rep could have easily bounced back from this.

It's a video or transcript of her talking to her self in the mirror, not a video of her performing sex acts for middle aged salary men in the back of a gas station. She'll be fine.

A surprising amount of people have actually talked to themselves in the mirror at one point or another it's really not that big of a deal. Even in high school. And as for her being sympathetic, remember BD hasn't read season 2 which contains a lot of the sympathetic stuff.

 

[Black Dragon74]

Social death is the worst kind of death. I didn't complain about the stuff before because I only started a couple of chapters ago, and everything else involved random characters suffering. You basically did the equivalent of punching out the teeth of a sympathetic character and called it a joke.

Okay, yes, and...?
Like I suggested before, I do that all the time (usually in metaphor, occasionally literally). If you don't find it amusing then I've failed you and I'm sorry about that.
But seriously, "social death"? Are you being serious? And you say it's the "worst kind"? On what planet?

 

[iiowyn]

Sounds like it is time for a public service announcement omake on the horrors of social death in Youkai Academy. It is a serious problem, as opposed to the mundane day to day problems of actual death, and should not be tolerated.

 

[Black Dragon74]

Sounds like it is time for a public service announcement omake on the horrors of social death in Youkai Academy. It is a serious problem, as opposed to the mundane day to day problems of actual death, and should not be tolerated.

Maybe they could get Richard to do it. He's already shown his credentials in protecting own's reputation from possible misunderstandings and slander.

"And remember kids, if for any reason you find yourself stripping and binding up a young boy, make sure he understands that you're not enjoying his suffering in any sexual way. Because that would make you a paedophile. And good luck finding a job after you get put on THAT registry."

 

[evilplushie]

So...out of all the maiming/random killing/beating/bullying etc, you draw the line out at Moka getting an embarrassing transcript uploaded to twitter and not Tsukune being tied to a flagpole mostly naked so people can laugh at him. Eh, wth sounds like this is more a personal issue than something wrong with the story.

 

[Black Dragon74]

So...out of all the maiming/random killing/beating/bullying etc, you draw the line out at Moka getting an embarrassing transcript uploaded to twitter and not Tsukune being tied to a flagpole mostly naked so people can laugh at him. Eh, wth sounds like this is more a personal issue than something wrong with the story.

Like I said, read long enough and you'll find something that brushes against your particular pet peeve. It hjappens. Like, ALL THE TIME.
I find it kind of funny.

 

[Hawk]

Franken Fran ended, with no real resolution at all! :angry: We never got to see the Professor even, or find out if he's still alive.

My logic for posting this in this thread is that this thread is what made me start reading Franken Fran.

 

[Black Dragon74]

Franken Fran ended, with no real resolution at all! :angry: We never got to see the Professor even, or find out if he's still alive.

My logic for posting this in this thread is that this thread is what made me start reading Franken Fran.

A toast then, to Fran! And her ilustrious/disastrous career, cut short by the cruel whimsy of the Japanese comic market or maybe because it's really hard to keep coming up with new freaky shit for that long!
May she live on in our hearts. And this story, where she'll be sewing together badly maimed students for a long time.

 

[Hymn of Ragnarok]

Am I the only one who finds it funny that monsters apparently use Twitter and Facebook?

Never mind that keeping a conspiracy secret on the internet is a recipe for disaster. Can you imagine a Facebook Group for monsters?

EDIT: Okay, I misremembered. No Facebook. That's what I get for reading and going to bed without reviewing.

My points stands: monsters are using Twitter. There is something deliciously ironic about that.

 

[WizardOne]

So...out of all the maiming/random killing/beating/bullying etc, you draw the line out at Moka getting an embarrassing transcript uploaded to twitter and not Tsukune being tied to a flagpole mostly naked so people can laugh at him. Eh, wth sounds like this is more a personal issue than something wrong with the story.

Like I said, read long enough and you'll find something that brushes against your particular pet peeve. It hjappens. Like, ALL THE TIME.
I find it kind of funny.

zeebee1 seems to have completely forgotten the comedy filter, or more likely, is pretending it doesnt exist to troll. Funny scene was funny.




Also, on a related note, anyone who would trashtalk/abuse someone for being knocked unconcious and stripped is a piece of shit anyway, and a smart person wouldn't care what they thought, and would then report the bullies to the school administration for expulsion/suspension. Easy.

 

[Black Dragon74]

Am I the only one who finds it funny that monsters apparently use Twitter and Facebook?

Never mind that keeping a conspiracy secret on the internet is a recipe for disaster. Can you imagine a Facebook Group for monsters?

EDIT: Okay, I misremembered. No Facebook. That's what I get for reading and going to bed without reviewing.

My points stands: monsters are using Twitter. There is something deliciously ironic about that.

I didn't really think too hard about it, but now that you mention it, it IS funny.

Makes me want to write up an actual feed.

YOKYgurl7: OMG, that Moka chick's biting her boyfriend again
YOKYgurl7: why don't they do that in their room like everyone else?
YOKYgurl7: That Enforcer with the eyebrows is smoking next to the entrance again...
YOKYgurl7: I threw a bone and he chased it into the gym, LOL
YOKYgurl7: Crap, the gym's on fire now
YOKYgurl7: Why are all the extinguisher bays empty?
YOKYgurl7: Am I the only one who thinks Prof. Jadeite is a total hunk?
YOKYgurl7: Okay, Kinama says yes, I'm the only one
YOKYgurl7: I wonder what his kidneys taste like <3

 

[Shadowseraph]

Here i though most Monsters thought Twitter was the noise birds and bird monsters make when you eat 'em. I guess they can't all be ignorant though, pretty funny either way.