Ranma ½ Rosario + Ranma

SotF

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Black Dragon74 said:
SotF said:
Black Dragon74 said:
SotF said:
Well, this has inspired me to rework an old idea of mine about what is probably a school where even if they were human, any monsters in the Academy would shrug and decide that running is better than messing with anyone who survived it.
Neat! What's the school teach, primarily?
Teaching is it's secondary function, it primarily exists to contain/distract various beings that are a threat to humanity.
So it's a facility primarily designed to house and contain undesirables away from civilization, with a distant secondary function of civilizing them (which is probably being undermined by the primary function).
That, my friend, is a prison, not a school.
A prison for the faculty, the students are, at least partially, brought from doomed dimensions.

They've only just reached a 5% survival rate
 
zeebee1 said:
That's way too high for a place whose primary goal is containment.
Zebes has a point. There might be death camps with better survival rates than that.
 

sworded

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Black Dragon74 said:
zeebee1 said:
That's way too high for a place whose primary goal is containment.
Zebes has a point. There might be death camps with better survival rates than that.
Well since the battles and antics are entertaining an audience i.e. the Headmaster I'd conclude that the academy is a free for all deathmatch arena.
 

The Vale

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it seems like you are going for a single school catering to multiple dimensions. you'd need a death rate that high just to manage the logistics.
 

Hawk

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Black Dragon74 said:
zeebee1 said:
That's way too high for a place whose primary goal is containment.
Zebes has a point. There might be death camps with better survival rates than that.
I think zeebee actually meant that too many are surviving, since if the goal is containment, then no one should be leaving at all, and surviving implies living until leaving.
 

Dumbledork

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inverted helix said:
Black Dragon74 said:
zeebee1 said:
That's way too high for a place whose primary goal is containment.
Zebes has a point. There might be death camps with better survival rates than that.
I think zeebee actually meant that too many are surviving, since if the goal is containment, then no one should be leaving at all, and surviving implies living until leaving.
That reminds me of this fic

<a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5137164/1/Double-Time-Trouble' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5137164/1/Double-Time-Trouble</a>

'Double Time Trouble' by Skysaber where the only reason for the criminal girls to be sent to St Trinian's School for Young Ladies is to kill each other.
 

SotF

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sworded said:
Black Dragon74 said:
zeebee1 said:
That's way too high for a place whose primary goal is containment.
Zebes has a point. There might be death camps with better survival rates than that.
Well since the battles and antics are entertaining an audience i.e. the Headmaster I'd conclude that the academy is a free for all deathmatch arena.
Not exactly, Cobra Commander, placed in charge of one of the dorms, has daily assaults to try and take over the cafeteria which is run by Daleks. The librarian tends to test anyone who gets near and promises cake.

They have Voldemort and Robotnik teaching, just added Alex Mercer as a biology teacher (The previous one has now upgraded the crocodile Gustav into a full crocodile species due to mass cloning before getting eaten), Kane is bouncing around with his own plans. Hannibal Lector is stuck teaching Home Ec.

Only reason for the current survival rate is that they somehow ended up with Master Asia teaching Gym...
 
inverted helix said:
Black Dragon74 said:
Zebes has a point. There might be death camps with better survival rates than that.
I think zeebee actually meant that too many are surviving, since if the goal is containment, then no one should be leaving at all, and surviving implies living until leaving.
That would be quite an ironic misreading on my part.
I assumed he meant the attrition rate was too high for an establishment that wasn't actively and deliberately killing its occupants (or at least isn't supposed to be).
I don't really see how a 5 percent survival rate can be too high under any circumstances other than genocide, though. The school must have some desire to see the occupants civilized and safely released, or there wouldn't be a school, just a massive school facade placed on top of a giant meat grinder.

Though I admit that the thought of Alex Mercer teaching biology does make me giggle.

"For todays's class, we're going to learn how evolution works. Evolution is the process by which individual organisms become stronger by absorbing useful DNA from the corpses of their victims."
"Sensei? Isn't the accepted theory of evolution a series of minute and random changes witrhin a species that-OHGODNOTTHECLAWSNGHFEGEH!!"
 

Ura Mamoru

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Facts listing again! Not as much on this list as usual. As usual, contains spoilers.




As I believe I have previously noted - the Muei-tou (Shadowless Sword) is a spell devised as a counter to the Jigen-tou (Dimensional Sword). As a reminder, it functions by preventing anyone touching it from shifting between dimensions. It is not particularly strong on offense, but it serves well on defense. You can see what the Muei-tou looks like in the link below.
<a href='http://mangafox.me/manga/rosario_to_vampire_season_ii/v12/c055/17.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://mangafox.me/manga/rosario_to_vampir...12/c055/17.html</a>

Kahlua apparently consistently wears the same dress (or perhaps just the same style of dress?) at almost all times. Even when doing housework (no matter how impractical it is to wear while cleaning the house).

Kurumu normally delivers Charm magic through her eyes, but Succubi can also cast Charm by kiss. It's possible for a kiss to transmit a Charm spell by accident.

Tsurara (Mizore's mother), as previously noted, has a lot of guns in her possession. One of the omakes shows that she considers a Gatling gun to be the ideal gun to carry if you need to be packing heat.

Kokoa can be easily baited with food.

Kokoa's bat, Nazo Koumori, generally stays polymorphed into that cute bat form. Its true form is supposedly a fair bit larger. Kokoa is aware that he's polymorphed, but has never seen his true form. We get a peek at... some sort of form in the link below this paragraph, but we can't say if that's his true form or not.
<a href='http://mangafox.me/manga/rosario_to_vampire_season_ii/v02/c008.5/4.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://mangafox.me/manga/rosario_to_vampir...2/c008.5/4.html</a>
(Left yonkoma, third panel).

Kokoa doesn't really show it, but she notes that at 100 kg, Nazo Koumori is heavy enough that it makes her shoulders stiff carrying him around on her head.

Inner Moka believes that she needs to keep herself somewhat distant from anyone she would consider a friend so that she won't inevitably bring more trouble to them. She'd rather be alone than let anyone she cares about suffer for her sake. Thinking about it though, she seems to consider 'harsh training' or 'punishment' to be something entirely different from 'suffering'. Or perhaps the 'punishment' is supposed to be her way of keeping others at a distance?

Inner Moka is fluent in Chinese.

Alucard's defeat was ~200 years ago. During that fight, Akasha Bloodriver sealed herself and Alucard away, and she was not freed from that seal for nearly 170 years. The Shuzen family freed her then. Incidentally, this means that Tenmei Mikogami (the Headmaster of Youkai Academy) and Touhou Fuhai have to be well over 200. So is Akasha, but again, she's been sealed up for most of that time, so I doubt she was aging normally during that time. Though on that note, I don't recall if anything was stated about the natural lifespan of vampires in this setting.

Akasha fought with a sword when battling Alucard. She was wearing armour too (I'd say it's a bit overly stylish, myself). So it seems she isn't limited to bare-handed combat.

Akasha was apparently a Shinsou even before she fought Alucard.

Alucard's blood multiplies once injected into a person, gradually overtaking them and turning them into one of the many ghouls that later become embedded in Alucard's body.

Gyokuro Shuzen is an utter bitch. Should have been obvious before now, but this most recent chapter (most recent as of right now, at least) really drives it in.
 
Who's Gyokuro Shuzen?

Also, does Tsurara carry guns on her person at all times (tucked away in her kimono, presumably)?
 
Black Dragon74 said:
Who's Gyokuro Shuzen?

Also, does Tsurara carry guns on her person at all times (tucked away in her kimono, presumably)?
Huh, you don't know Kalua's mother?
 
NuitTombee said:
Black Dragon74 said:
Who's Gyokuro Shuzen?

Also, does Tsurara carry guns on her person at all times (tucked away in her kimono, presumably)?
Huh, you don't know Kalua's mother?
I only know the characters from season 2 from the bits and pieces I've gleaned from this thread.
Though now that you've explained it, I'm content that she'll never be relevant to this story and I've lost interest accordingly.
 

WizardOne

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Black Dragon74 said:
NuitTombee said:
Black Dragon74 said:
Who's Gyokuro Shuzen?

Also, does Tsurara carry guns on her person at all times (tucked away in her kimono, presumably)?
Huh, you don't know Kalua's mother?
I only know the characters from season 2 from the bits and pieces I've gleaned from this thread.
Though now that you've explained it, I'm content that she'll never be relevant to this story and I've lost interest accordingly.
The Four Vampire girls all have different mothers, but the same father.

All their mothers are supposedly really strong, but some are dead and some aren't.

And tbh, you should totally incorporate some of S2 into your writing.

There's some very good humor stuff.
 
WizardOne said:
Black Dragon74 said:
I only know the characters from season 2 from the bits and pieces I've gleaned from this thread.
Though now that you've explained it, I'm content that she'll never be relevant to this story and I've lost interest accordingly.
The Four Vampire girls all have different mothers, but the same father.

All their mothers are supposedly really strong, but some are dead and some aren't.

And tbh, you should totally incorporate some of S2 into your writing.

There's some very good humor stuff.
That would involve actually reading some of S2, and well...
As One wise Wizard said to me in regards to his affection for tea: "I don't want to."
From everything I've heard, the plot is worthless, the characters only get more ridiculous (and not in a good way), and the shounen action bullshit gets cranked up further and further.
I'm sure there's some comedy wedged in all that garbage somewhere, but I don't really need it; I can supply that on my own. I already took Rosario's premise and most of its characters, and that's all I ever needed from it.
 

Dumbledork

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WizardOne said:
Black Dragon74 said:
NuitTombee said:
Black Dragon74 said:
Who's Gyokuro Shuzen?

Also, does Tsurara carry guns on her person at all times (tucked away in her kimono, presumably)?
Huh, you don't know Kalua's mother?
I only know the characters from season 2 from the bits and pieces I've gleaned from this thread.
Though now that you've explained it, I'm content that she'll never be relevant to this story and I've lost interest accordingly.
The Four Vampire girls all have different mothers, but the same father.

All their mothers are supposedly really strong, but some are dead and some aren't.

And tbh, you should totally incorporate some of S2 into your writing.

There's some very good humor stuff.
One of the girls is adopted and two girls have the same mother if I remember correctly.
 

Lord Raa

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Black Dragon74 said:
That would involve actually reading some of S2, and well...
As One wise Wizard said to me in regards to his affection for tea: "I don't want to."
From everything I've heard, the plot is worthless, the characters only get more ridiculous (and not in a good way), and the shounen action bullshit gets cranked up further and further.
I'm sure there's some comedy wedged in all that garbage somewhere, but I don't really need it; I can supply that on my own. I already took Rosario's premise and most of its characters, and that's all I ever needed from it.
>Implying that I have read more than the first volume or watched past the first episode of Love Hina.
 

WizardOne

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Black Dragon74 said:
WizardOne said:
Black Dragon74 said:
I only know the characters from season 2 from the bits and pieces I've gleaned from this thread.
Though now that you've explained it, I'm content that she'll never be relevant to this story and I've lost interest accordingly.
The Four Vampire girls all have different mothers, but the same father.

All their mothers are supposedly really strong, but some are dead and some aren't.

And tbh, you should totally incorporate some of S2 into your writing.

There's some very good humor stuff.
I don't want to.



From everything I've heard, the plot is worthless, the characters only get more ridiculous (and not in a good way), and the shounen action bullshit gets cranked up further and further.
I'm sure there's some comedy wedged in all that garbage somewhere, but I don't really need it; I can supply that on my own. I already took Rosario's premise and most of its characters, and that's all I ever needed from it.
Perfectly valid reason.

However, its really not shounen action bullshit. Its Seinen plot bullshit. Whole different kettle of fish.
 
WizardOne said:
However, its really not shounen action bullshit. Its Seinen plot bullshit. Whole different kettle of fish.
You can come up with different words for it if you like, but it still smells the same, and I still don't want any of it on me.

>Implying that I have read more than the first volume or watched past the first episode of Love Hina.
I don't follow. What did you mean by this? o_O
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
Black Dragon74 said:
>Implying that I have read more than the first volume or watched past the first episode of Love Hina.
I don't follow. What did you mean by this? o_O
I have written several Love Hina stories that haven't been laughed off the internet without studying the source material.

If I can do such a thing, then surely you can with S2 of R+V.
 
Lord Raa said:
I have written several Love Hina stories that haven't been laughed off the internet without studying the source material.

If I can do such a thing, then surely you can with S2 of R+V.
Ah, I see. Encouraging, but still irrelevant.
I'm sure I COULD write a RV2 story with nothing but Wikipedia and Ura's info to aid me, much as I'm sure I could set fire to my apartment complex.
They're both still terrible ideas, and there's a high probability that I would end up killing somebody.
 

SotF

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Black Dragon74 said:
Lord Raa said:
I have written several Love Hina stories that haven't been laughed off the internet without studying the source material.

If I can do such a thing, then surely you can with S2 of R+V.
Ah, I see. Encouraging, but still irrelevant.
I'm sure I COULD write a RV2 story with nothing but Wikipedia and Ura's info to aid me, much as I'm sure I could set fire to my apartment complex.
They're both still terrible ideas, and there's a high probability that I would end up killing somebody.
Easiest thing with it is to ditch the plot itself and utilize characters.
 

Ura Mamoru

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Black Dragon74 said:
Who's Gyokuro Shuzen?

Also, does Tsurara carry guns on her person at all times (tucked away in her kimono, presumably)?
As previously noted, Gyokuro Shuzen is Kokoa and Kahlua's mother, and therefore, Moka's aunt/stepmother (Moka's father, Issa, has multiple lovers).

I don't think it's ever clearly stated where Tsurara keeps the guns she carries on her person. A Gatling gun, for example, is too damn big to fit under one's clothes, and a sniper rifle is... probably not easily hidden under a kimono, even if you are carrying the disassembled parts of one. Magic, maybe? We do know dimension-shifting abilities are known in Rosario + Vampire.
 
Ura Mamoru said:
Black Dragon74 said:
Who's Gyokuro Shuzen?

Also, does Tsurara carry guns on her person at all times (tucked away in her kimono, presumably)?
As previously noted, Gyokuro Shuzen is Kokoa and Kahlua's mother, and therefore, Moka's aunt/stepmother (Moka's father, Issa, has multiple lovers).

I don't think it's ever clearly stated where Tsurara keeps the guns she carries on her person. A Gatling gun, for example, is too damn big to fit under one's clothes, and a sniper rifle is... probably not easily hidden under a kimono, even if you are carrying the disassembled parts of one. Magic, maybe? We do know dimension-shifting abilities are known in Rosario + Vampire.
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